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Re: trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater

 

Hi Butch,

I'm not familiar with the 851, but my first thought would be is this a repeater that was used? If so, did you first test it on its original frequency? If you moved it too for it may be a PLL tuning problem.

I don't know if you have to retune the PLL on an 851 if you move it a lot in frequency.

Joe, K1ike

On 5/10/2025 9:18 PM, Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io wrote:
I think something in the receiver, it is clean when turned cold,
noise comes on after a warm up. Service monitor has been las
several days.
Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
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new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
851 repeater
If it is doing that and a) the TX is off and b)
you're sure it's not your service monitor then
the only option left is the RX itself
Ken
At 04:36 PM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
this on the bench with a service monitor. dummy load on
the
transmitter, repeat mode turnede off. When first turned on,
sounds nice and quiet. AFter a minute or so, gets a noise like
bacon frying. Of course it is repeated if I turn on the
transmitter. As I said, just feeding a signal into the receiver
with my ifr 1200.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
851 repeater


The cracklies?

Duplexer?
Cabling?
Feedline?






At 01:48 PM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
Anyone have any thoughts on this problem?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 3:02???PM, Butch-tiny
puppy via groups.io <wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???o.k., is quiet until it is on about a minute then gets a
crackle
kind of like bacon frying.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


I changed frequency to 442.100. But not sure about the
crackle. I
tried it here and didn't notice any noise on RX.

Give me a call later on tomorrow, since leaving soon.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
<[email protected]>
On
Behalf Of Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater

The repeater has a noise on receive like bacon frying. Not
sure
what is causing that. I can give you a call if you want to
listen to it. kind of a crackling noise. I haven't tried
adjusting anything yet, but sensativity is poor even on the
151.1875 frequency.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


That's good to know thanks. Hopefully my little laptop
comes
by
Wednesday because tentatively planning on going back to the
site
in portage on Thursday to visit the lady Buggs, well OK not
really, but putting up the Lincoln tenor for the repeaters
and
figuring out what is going on with my DNC. I turned it on
and
it
gives me a little Gibberish character, but then I turn it
off
and
back on again and then it works. Might have to just flush
the
whole TNC and start over. Would like it just to power up
and
work
because if there's a power failure and that TNC comes back
on
then it won't power up correctly and I'm 70+ miles away
from
the
site with no transportation.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:58???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???yes, works fine. nvda is the best, although works with
window-eyes
as well.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


That was one of my questions I actually had and you might
have
just
answered it for me, but, does your Windows XP box work
with
the
KPG
91D software?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:32???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???The computer I usually use doesn't have a serial port
and I
can't
find my usb to serial adapter, so fired up my old xp
machine
with a
for real serial port.
Thanks all for your help. Good to know about the fuse.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


See Chris's comments about the fuse.

BTW, the only reason to use the mic jack is if you're
updating
the
firmware (or don't want to otherwise with the rear panel
DB25).

Good to hear you're good to go

Ken



At 10:13 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I tried it on serial port on the back and it works, for
some
reason, not on the mike connector on the front which is
what
I
use on my other repeaters. Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io"
<wa0vjr@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


that is what I thought, then why do I get that error?

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


KPG-91D will work

Ken



At 09:40 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I thought my software for my 850 would work, but it
says
check
radio model, retry. Does it take a different program?
Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102



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President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
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Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
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Re: trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater

 

?
I'm listening to the noise on the repeater speaker.? As far as out of descriminator, I don't know, and not sure where to find that.? I'm totally blind, so can't read the manual.? The noise is transmitted if I turn on the repeat mode.?
?
Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater

Transmitter off? ? And if so, take the fact that it's a repeater totally out of the picture. ? Because it's not a repeater at that point, it's only a receiver.? So are you listening to this noise that comes in on the monitor speaker??? What does the noise do if you listen to the output of the discriminator?

And if your receive sensitivity is down 10 db, the issues are likely related.

Andy

On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 8:58?PM Butch-tiny puppy via <wa0vjr=[email protected]> wrote:
signal from ifr is fine on another radio.? I've tried varying
strength which makes no difference.? Feeding output from ifr
directly into the repeater receiver.? Transmitter is off.? The
attached recording starts with a cold startI then pause recording
and the noise you hear is after repeater? has warmed up a couple
minutes.? I don't know if it is related, but receiver sensativity
is down ten db or more from my other kenwood repeaters.? Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "John via " <gielisj=[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
851 repeater


Thought on frying bacon sound

1. have you fed a signal from something else, instead
2. is the signal from the 1200 clean, too strong
3. can you insert an attenuator in the signal line
4. how are you feeding this 1200 signal - direct or via an
antenna
5. figure out why the 'minute or so' delay is relevant

We'll take your word that it sound like frying bacon..
There is no mistaking the smell of it :)

73 John VK4JKL

On 11/05/2025 9:36 am, Butch-tiny puppy via wrote:
>? ? ? this on the bench with a service monitor.? dummy load on
> the
> transmitter, repeat mode turnede off.? When first turned on,
> sounds nice and quiet.? AFter a minute or so, gets a noise like
> bacon frying.? Of course it is repeated if I turn on the
> transmitter.? As I said, just feeding a signal into the
> receiver
> with my ifr 1200.
>
> Butch Bussen
> wa0vjr
> wa0vjr@...
> irlp 7135
> allstar 56023
> echolink 790800
> new home phone 785 852-1102
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via "
> <ken=[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 3:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
> kenwood
> 851 repeater
>
>
> The cracklies?
>
> Duplexer?
> Cabling?
> Feedline?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 01:48 PM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
>> Anyone have any thoughts on this problem?
>> Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
>> Janesville Wisconsin
>> 608-754-8671
>> Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
>>
>>> On May 10, 2025, at 3:02???PM, Butch-tiny
>> puppy via <wa0vjr=[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> ???o.k., is quiet until it is on about a minute then gets a
>>> crackle
>>> kind of like bacon frying.
>>>
>>> Butch Bussen
>>> wa0vjr
>>> wa0vjr@...
>>> irlp 7135
>>> allstar 56023
>>> echolink 790800
>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Chad Nelson via "
>>> <chad.nelson71=[email protected]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 1:44 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>> kenwood
>>> 851 repeater
>>>
>>>
>>> I changed frequency to 442.100. But not sure about the
>>> crackle. I
>>> tried it here and didn't notice any noise on RX.
>>>
>>> Give me a call later on tomorrow, since leaving soon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Butch-tiny puppy via
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:21 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>> kenwood
>>> 851 repeater
>>>
>>> The repeater has a noise on receive like bacon frying.? Not
>>> sure
>>> what is causing that.? I can give you a call if you want to
>>> listen to it.? kind of a crackling noise.? I haven't tried
>>> adjusting anything yet, but sensativity is poor even on the
>>> 151.1875 frequency.
>>>
>>> Butch Bussen
>>> wa0vjr
>>> wa0vjr@...
>>> irlp 7135
>>> allstar 56023
>>> echolink 790800
>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Chad Nelson via "
>>> <chad.nelson71=[email protected]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 12:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>> kenwood
>>> 851 repeater
>>>
>>>
>>> That's good to know thanks. Hopefully my little laptop comes
>>> by
>>> Wednesday because tentatively planning on going back to the
>>> site
>>> in portage on Thursday to visit the lady Buggs, well OK not
>>> really, but putting up the Lincoln tenor for the repeaters
>>> and
>>> figuring out what is going on with my DNC. I turned it on and
>>> it
>>> gives me a little Gibberish character, but then I turn it off
>>> and
>>> back on again and then it works. Might have to just flush the
>>> whole TNC and start over. Would like it just to power up and
>>> work
>>> because if there's a power failure and that TNC comes back on
>>> then it won't power up correctly and I'm 70+ miles away from
>>> the
>>> site with no transportation.
>>> Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
>>> Janesville Wisconsin
>>> 608-754-8671
>>> Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
>>>
>>>> On May 10, 2025, at 12:58???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
>>>>
>>>> <wa0vjr=[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ???yes, works fine.? nvda is the best, although works with
>>>> window-eyes
>>>> as well.
>>>>
>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>> wa0vjr
>>>> wa0vjr@...
>>>> irlp 7135
>>>> allstar 56023
>>>> echolink 790800
>>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Chad Nelson via "
>>>> <chad.nelson71=[email protected]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:44 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>>> kenwood
>>>> 851 repeater
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That was one of my questions I actually had and you might
>>>> have
>>>> just
>>>> answered it for me, but, does your Windows XP box work with
>>>> the
>>>> KPG
>>>> 91D software?
>>>> Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
>>>> Janesville Wisconsin
>>>> 608-754-8671
>>>> Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
>>>>
>>>>> On May 10, 2025, at 12:32???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
>>>>>
>>>>> <wa0vjr=[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ???The computer I usually use doesn't have a serial port
>>>>> and I
>>>>> can't
>>>>> find my usb to serial adapter, so fired up my old xp
>>>>> machine
>>>>> with a
>>>>> for real serial port.
>>>>> Thanks all for your help. Good to know about the fuse.
>>>>>
>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>> wa0vjr@...
>>>>> irlp 7135
>>>>> allstar 56023
>>>>> echolink 790800
>>>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via "
>>>>> <ken=[email protected]>
>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:21 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>>>> kenwood
>>>>> 851 repeater
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> See Chris's comments about the fuse.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, the only reason to use the mic jack is if you're
>>>>> updating
>>>>> the
>>>>> firmware (or don't want to otherwise with the rear panel
>>>>> DB25).
>>>>>
>>>>> Good to hear you're good to go
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 10:13 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
>>>>>> I tried it on serial port on the back and it works, for
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> reason, not on the mike connector on the front which is
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> use on my other repeaters.? Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>>> wa0vjr@...
>>>>>> irlp 7135
>>>>>> allstar 56023
>>>>>> echolink 790800
>>>>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Butch-tiny puppy via "
>>>>>> <wa0vjr=[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:43 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>>>>> kenwood
>>>>>> 851 repeater
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that is what I thought, then why do I get that error?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>>> wa0vjr@...
>>>>>> irlp 7135
>>>>>> allstar 56023
>>>>>> echolink 790800
>>>>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via "
>>>>>> <ken=[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:42 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>>>>> kenwood
>>>>>> 851 repeater
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> KPG-91D will work
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 09:40 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
>>>>>>> I thought my software for my 850 would work, but it says
>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>> radio model, retry.? Does it take a different program?
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>>>> wa0vjr@...
>>>>>>> irlp 7135
>>>>>>> allstar 56023
>>>>>>> echolink 790800
>>>>>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
>>>>>> Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
>>>>>> Phone: (503) 678 6182
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
>>>>>> We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
>>>>>> "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
>>>>>> []
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
>>>>> Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
>>>>> Phone: (503) 678 6182
>>>>>
>>>>> Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
>>>>> We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
>>>>> "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
>>>>> []
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
> Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
> Phone: (503) 678 6182
>
> Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
> We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
> "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
> []
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>










Re: trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater

 

I think something in the receiver, it is clean when turned cold,
noise comes on after a warm up. Service monitor has been las
several days.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
851 repeater


If it is doing that and a) the TX is off and b)
you're sure it's not your service monitor then
the only option left is the RX itself

Ken


At 04:36 PM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
this on the bench with a service monitor. dummy load on
the
transmitter, repeat mode turnede off. When first turned on,
sounds nice and quiet. AFter a minute or so, gets a noise like
bacon frying. Of course it is repeated if I turn on the
transmitter. As I said, just feeding a signal into the receiver
with my ifr 1200.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
851 repeater


The cracklies?

Duplexer?
Cabling?
Feedline?






At 01:48 PM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
Anyone have any thoughts on this problem?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 3:02???PM, Butch-tiny
puppy via groups.io <wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???o.k., is quiet until it is on about a minute then gets a
crackle
kind of like bacon frying.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


I changed frequency to 442.100. But not sure about the
crackle. I
tried it here and didn't notice any noise on RX.

Give me a call later on tomorrow, since leaving soon.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
<[email protected]>
On
Behalf Of Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater

The repeater has a noise on receive like bacon frying. Not
sure
what is causing that. I can give you a call if you want to
listen to it. kind of a crackling noise. I haven't tried
adjusting anything yet, but sensativity is poor even on the
151.1875 frequency.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


That's good to know thanks. Hopefully my little laptop
comes
by
Wednesday because tentatively planning on going back to the
site
in portage on Thursday to visit the lady Buggs, well OK not
really, but putting up the Lincoln tenor for the repeaters
and
figuring out what is going on with my DNC. I turned it on
and
it
gives me a little Gibberish character, but then I turn it
off
and
back on again and then it works. Might have to just flush
the
whole TNC and start over. Would like it just to power up
and
work
because if there's a power failure and that TNC comes back
on
then it won't power up correctly and I'm 70+ miles away
from
the
site with no transportation.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:58???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???yes, works fine. nvda is the best, although works with
window-eyes
as well.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


That was one of my questions I actually had and you might
have
just
answered it for me, but, does your Windows XP box work
with
the
KPG
91D software?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:32???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???The computer I usually use doesn't have a serial port
and I
can't
find my usb to serial adapter, so fired up my old xp
machine
with a
for real serial port.
Thanks all for your help. Good to know about the fuse.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


See Chris's comments about the fuse.

BTW, the only reason to use the mic jack is if you're
updating
the
firmware (or don't want to otherwise with the rear panel
DB25).

Good to hear you're good to go

Ken



At 10:13 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I tried it on serial port on the back and it works, for
some
reason, not on the mike connector on the front which is
what
I
use on my other repeaters. Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io"
<wa0vjr@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


that is what I thought, then why do I get that error?

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


KPG-91D will work

Ken



At 09:40 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I thought my software for my 850 would work, but it
says
check
radio model, retry. Does it take a different program?
Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102



------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Phone: (503) 678 6182

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We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
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Phone: (503) 678 6182

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We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
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Phone: (503) 678 6182

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We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
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------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]


Re: trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater

 

Transmitter off? ? And if so, take the fact that it's a repeater totally out of the picture. ? Because it's not a repeater at that point, it's only a receiver.? So are you listening to this noise that comes in on the monitor speaker??? What does the noise do if you listen to the output of the discriminator?

And if your receive sensitivity is down 10 db, the issues are likely related.

Andy

On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 8:58?PM Butch-tiny puppy via <wa0vjr=[email protected]> wrote:
signal from ifr is fine on another radio.? I've tried varying
strength which makes no difference.? Feeding output from ifr
directly into the repeater receiver.? Transmitter is off.? The
attached recording starts with a cold startI then pause recording
and the noise you hear is after repeater? has warmed up a couple
minutes.? I don't know if it is related, but receiver sensativity
is down ten db or more from my other kenwood repeaters.? Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "John via " <gielisj=[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
851 repeater


Thought on frying bacon sound

1. have you fed a signal from something else, instead
2. is the signal from the 1200 clean, too strong
3. can you insert an attenuator in the signal line
4. how are you feeding this 1200 signal - direct or via an
antenna
5. figure out why the 'minute or so' delay is relevant

We'll take your word that it sound like frying bacon..
There is no mistaking the smell of it :)

73 John VK4JKL

On 11/05/2025 9:36 am, Butch-tiny puppy via wrote:
>? ? ? this on the bench with a service monitor.? dummy load on
> the
> transmitter, repeat mode turnede off.? When first turned on,
> sounds nice and quiet.? AFter a minute or so, gets a noise like
> bacon frying.? Of course it is repeated if I turn on the
> transmitter.? As I said, just feeding a signal into the
> receiver
> with my ifr 1200.
>
> Butch Bussen
> wa0vjr
> wa0vjr@...
> irlp 7135
> allstar 56023
> echolink 790800
> new home phone 785 852-1102
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via "
> <ken=[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 3:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
> kenwood
> 851 repeater
>
>
> The cracklies?
>
> Duplexer?
> Cabling?
> Feedline?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 01:48 PM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
>> Anyone have any thoughts on this problem?
>> Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
>> Janesville Wisconsin
>> 608-754-8671
>> Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
>>
>>> On May 10, 2025, at 3:02???PM, Butch-tiny
>> puppy via <wa0vjr=[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> ???o.k., is quiet until it is on about a minute then gets a
>>> crackle
>>> kind of like bacon frying.
>>>
>>> Butch Bussen
>>> wa0vjr
>>> wa0vjr@...
>>> irlp 7135
>>> allstar 56023
>>> echolink 790800
>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Chad Nelson via "
>>> <chad.nelson71=[email protected]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 1:44 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>> kenwood
>>> 851 repeater
>>>
>>>
>>> I changed frequency to 442.100. But not sure about the
>>> crackle. I
>>> tried it here and didn't notice any noise on RX.
>>>
>>> Give me a call later on tomorrow, since leaving soon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Butch-tiny puppy via
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:21 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>> kenwood
>>> 851 repeater
>>>
>>> The repeater has a noise on receive like bacon frying.? Not
>>> sure
>>> what is causing that.? I can give you a call if you want to
>>> listen to it.? kind of a crackling noise.? I haven't tried
>>> adjusting anything yet, but sensativity is poor even on the
>>> 151.1875 frequency.
>>>
>>> Butch Bussen
>>> wa0vjr
>>> wa0vjr@...
>>> irlp 7135
>>> allstar 56023
>>> echolink 790800
>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Chad Nelson via "
>>> <chad.nelson71=[email protected]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 12:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>> kenwood
>>> 851 repeater
>>>
>>>
>>> That's good to know thanks. Hopefully my little laptop comes
>>> by
>>> Wednesday because tentatively planning on going back to the
>>> site
>>> in portage on Thursday to visit the lady Buggs, well OK not
>>> really, but putting up the Lincoln tenor for the repeaters
>>> and
>>> figuring out what is going on with my DNC. I turned it on and
>>> it
>>> gives me a little Gibberish character, but then I turn it off
>>> and
>>> back on again and then it works. Might have to just flush the
>>> whole TNC and start over. Would like it just to power up and
>>> work
>>> because if there's a power failure and that TNC comes back on
>>> then it won't power up correctly and I'm 70+ miles away from
>>> the
>>> site with no transportation.
>>> Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
>>> Janesville Wisconsin
>>> 608-754-8671
>>> Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
>>>
>>>> On May 10, 2025, at 12:58???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
>>>>
>>>> <wa0vjr=[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ???yes, works fine.? nvda is the best, although works with
>>>> window-eyes
>>>> as well.
>>>>
>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>> wa0vjr
>>>> wa0vjr@...
>>>> irlp 7135
>>>> allstar 56023
>>>> echolink 790800
>>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Chad Nelson via "
>>>> <chad.nelson71=[email protected]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:44 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>>> kenwood
>>>> 851 repeater
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That was one of my questions I actually had and you might
>>>> have
>>>> just
>>>> answered it for me, but, does your Windows XP box work with
>>>> the
>>>> KPG
>>>> 91D software?
>>>> Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
>>>> Janesville Wisconsin
>>>> 608-754-8671
>>>> Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
>>>>
>>>>> On May 10, 2025, at 12:32???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
>>>>>
>>>>> <wa0vjr=[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ???The computer I usually use doesn't have a serial port
>>>>> and I
>>>>> can't
>>>>> find my usb to serial adapter, so fired up my old xp
>>>>> machine
>>>>> with a
>>>>> for real serial port.
>>>>> Thanks all for your help. Good to know about the fuse.
>>>>>
>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>> wa0vjr@...
>>>>> irlp 7135
>>>>> allstar 56023
>>>>> echolink 790800
>>>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via "
>>>>> <ken=[email protected]>
>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:21 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>>>> kenwood
>>>>> 851 repeater
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> See Chris's comments about the fuse.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, the only reason to use the mic jack is if you're
>>>>> updating
>>>>> the
>>>>> firmware (or don't want to otherwise with the rear panel
>>>>> DB25).
>>>>>
>>>>> Good to hear you're good to go
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 10:13 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
>>>>>> I tried it on serial port on the back and it works, for
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> reason, not on the mike connector on the front which is
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> use on my other repeaters.? Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>>> wa0vjr@...
>>>>>> irlp 7135
>>>>>> allstar 56023
>>>>>> echolink 790800
>>>>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Butch-tiny puppy via "
>>>>>> <wa0vjr=[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:43 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>>>>> kenwood
>>>>>> 851 repeater
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that is what I thought, then why do I get that error?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>>> wa0vjr@...
>>>>>> irlp 7135
>>>>>> allstar 56023
>>>>>> echolink 790800
>>>>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via "
>>>>>> <ken=[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:42 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>>>>> kenwood
>>>>>> 851 repeater
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> KPG-91D will work
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 09:40 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
>>>>>>> I thought my software for my 850 would work, but it says
>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>> radio model, retry.? Does it take a different program?
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>>>> wa0vjr@...
>>>>>>> irlp 7135
>>>>>>> allstar 56023
>>>>>>> echolink 790800
>>>>>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
>>>>>> Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
>>>>>> Phone: (503) 678 6182
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
>>>>>> We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
>>>>>> "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
>>>>>> []
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
>>>>> Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
>>>>> Phone: (503) 678 6182
>>>>>
>>>>> Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
>>>>> We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
>>>>> "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
>>>>> []
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
> Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
> Phone: (503) 678 6182
>
> Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
> We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
> "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
> []
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>










Re: trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater

 

If it is doing that and a) the TX is off and b) you're sure it's not your service monitor then the only option left is the RX itself

Ken


At 04:36 PM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
this on the bench with a service monitor. dummy load on the
transmitter, repeat mode turnede off. When first turned on,
sounds nice and quiet. AFter a minute or so, gets a noise like
bacon frying. Of course it is repeated if I turn on the
transmitter. As I said, just feeding a signal into the receiver
with my ifr 1200.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
851 repeater


The cracklies?

Duplexer?
Cabling?
Feedline?






At 01:48 PM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
Anyone have any thoughts on this problem?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 3:02???PM, Butch-tiny
puppy via groups.io <wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???o.k., is quiet until it is on about a minute then gets a
crackle
kind of like bacon frying.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


I changed frequency to 442.100. But not sure about the
crackle. I
tried it here and didn't notice any noise on RX.

Give me a call later on tomorrow, since leaving soon.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On
Behalf Of Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater

The repeater has a noise on receive like bacon frying. Not
sure
what is causing that. I can give you a call if you want to
listen to it. kind of a crackling noise. I haven't tried
adjusting anything yet, but sensativity is poor even on the
151.1875 frequency.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


That's good to know thanks. Hopefully my little laptop comes
by
Wednesday because tentatively planning on going back to the
site
in portage on Thursday to visit the lady Buggs, well OK not
really, but putting up the Lincoln tenor for the repeaters
and
figuring out what is going on with my DNC. I turned it on and
it
gives me a little Gibberish character, but then I turn it off
and
back on again and then it works. Might have to just flush the
whole TNC and start over. Would like it just to power up and
work
because if there's a power failure and that TNC comes back on
then it won't power up correctly and I'm 70+ miles away from
the
site with no transportation.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:58???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???yes, works fine. nvda is the best, although works with
window-eyes
as well.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


That was one of my questions I actually had and you might
have
just
answered it for me, but, does your Windows XP box work with
the
KPG
91D software?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:32???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???The computer I usually use doesn't have a serial port
and I
can't
find my usb to serial adapter, so fired up my old xp
machine
with a
for real serial port.
Thanks all for your help. Good to know about the fuse.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


See Chris's comments about the fuse.

BTW, the only reason to use the mic jack is if you're
updating
the
firmware (or don't want to otherwise with the rear panel
DB25).

Good to hear you're good to go

Ken



At 10:13 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I tried it on serial port on the back and it works, for
some
reason, not on the mike connector on the front which is
what
I
use on my other repeaters. Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io"
<wa0vjr@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


that is what I thought, then why do I get that error?

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


KPG-91D will work

Ken



At 09:40 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I thought my software for my 850 would work, but it says
check
radio model, retry. Does it take a different program?
Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102



------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]














------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]










































------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]









------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]


Re: trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater

 

ye to all of that.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
851 repeater


Another thought is have you tried keying up a radio next to the
repeater without your service monitor? And then if you listen to
it on another radio, does it still have the noise? Yes
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 7:59?PM, Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

?desense from service monitor, I don't follow that at all.
service monitor sounds fine on other radios. I've tried
various
levels, all have the same noise.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


This is just a guess, but it sounds like desence from your
service monitor, but I could be full of it! I will let someone
else comment who actually knows more about this type of stuff.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 6:36?PM, Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

? this on the bench with a service monitor. dummy load on
the
transmitter, repeat mode turnede off. When first turned on,
sounds nice and quiet. AFter a minute or so, gets a noise
like
bacon frying. Of course it is repeated if I turn on the
transmitter. As I said, just feeding a signal into the
receiver
with my ifr 1200.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


The cracklies?

Duplexer?
Cabling?
Feedline?






At 01:48 PM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
Anyone have any thoughts on this problem?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 3:02???PM, Butch-tiny
puppy via groups.io <wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???o.k., is quiet until it is on about a minute then gets a
crackle
kind of like bacon frying.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


I changed frequency to 442.100. But not sure about the
crackle. I
tried it here and didn't notice any noise on RX.

Give me a call later on tomorrow, since leaving soon.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
<[email protected]>
On
Behalf Of Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater

The repeater has a noise on receive like bacon frying. Not
sure
what is causing that. I can give you a call if you want to
listen to it. kind of a crackling noise. I haven't tried
adjusting anything yet, but sensativity is poor even on the
151.1875 frequency.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


That's good to know thanks. Hopefully my little laptop comes
by
Wednesday because tentatively planning on going back to the
site
in portage on Thursday to visit the lady Buggs, well OK not
really, but putting up the Lincoln tenor for the repeaters
and
figuring out what is going on with my DNC. I turned it on
and
it
gives me a little Gibberish character, but then I turn it
off
and
back on again and then it works. Might have to just flush
the
whole TNC and start over. Would like it just to power up and
work
because if there's a power failure and that TNC comes back
on
then it won't power up correctly and I'm 70+ miles away from
the
site with no transportation.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:58???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???yes, works fine. nvda is the best, although works with
window-eyes
as well.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


That was one of my questions I actually had and you might
have
just
answered it for me, but, does your Windows XP box work with
the
KPG
91D software?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:32???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???The computer I usually use doesn't have a serial port
and I
can't
find my usb to serial adapter, so fired up my old xp
machine
with a
for real serial port.
Thanks all for your help. Good to know about the fuse.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


See Chris's comments about the fuse.

BTW, the only reason to use the mic jack is if you're
updating
the
firmware (or don't want to otherwise with the rear panel
DB25).

Good to hear you're good to go

Ken



At 10:13 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I tried it on serial port on the back and it works, for
some
reason, not on the mike connector on the front which is
what
I
use on my other repeaters. Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io"
<wa0vjr@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


that is what I thought, then why do I get that error?

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


KPG-91D will work

Ken



At 09:40 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I thought my software for my 850 would work, but it says
check
radio model, retry. Does it take a different program?
Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102



------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]














------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]










































------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]





















Re: trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater

 

Another thought is have you tried keying up a radio next to the repeater without your service monitor? And then if you listen to it on another radio, does it still have the noise? Yes
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 7:59?PM, Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io <wa0vjr@...> wrote:

?desense from service monitor, I don't follow that at all.
service monitor sounds fine on other radios. I've tried various
levels, all have the same noise.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
851 repeater


This is just a guess, but it sounds like desence from your
service monitor, but I could be full of it! I will let someone
else comment who actually knows more about this type of stuff.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 6:36?PM, Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

? this on the bench with a service monitor. dummy load on
the
transmitter, repeat mode turnede off. When first turned on,
sounds nice and quiet. AFter a minute or so, gets a noise like
bacon frying. Of course it is repeated if I turn on the
transmitter. As I said, just feeding a signal into the
receiver
with my ifr 1200.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


The cracklies?

Duplexer?
Cabling?
Feedline?






At 01:48 PM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
Anyone have any thoughts on this problem?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 3:02???PM, Butch-tiny
puppy via groups.io <wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???o.k., is quiet until it is on about a minute then gets a
crackle
kind of like bacon frying.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


I changed frequency to 442.100. But not sure about the
crackle. I
tried it here and didn't notice any noise on RX.

Give me a call later on tomorrow, since leaving soon.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On
Behalf Of Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater

The repeater has a noise on receive like bacon frying. Not
sure
what is causing that. I can give you a call if you want to
listen to it. kind of a crackling noise. I haven't tried
adjusting anything yet, but sensativity is poor even on the
151.1875 frequency.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


That's good to know thanks. Hopefully my little laptop comes
by
Wednesday because tentatively planning on going back to the
site
in portage on Thursday to visit the lady Buggs, well OK not
really, but putting up the Lincoln tenor for the repeaters
and
figuring out what is going on with my DNC. I turned it on and
it
gives me a little Gibberish character, but then I turn it off
and
back on again and then it works. Might have to just flush the
whole TNC and start over. Would like it just to power up and
work
because if there's a power failure and that TNC comes back on
then it won't power up correctly and I'm 70+ miles away from
the
site with no transportation.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:58???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???yes, works fine. nvda is the best, although works with
window-eyes
as well.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


That was one of my questions I actually had and you might
have
just
answered it for me, but, does your Windows XP box work with
the
KPG
91D software?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:32???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???The computer I usually use doesn't have a serial port
and I
can't
find my usb to serial adapter, so fired up my old xp
machine
with a
for real serial port.
Thanks all for your help. Good to know about the fuse.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


See Chris's comments about the fuse.

BTW, the only reason to use the mic jack is if you're
updating
the
firmware (or don't want to otherwise with the rear panel
DB25).

Good to hear you're good to go

Ken



At 10:13 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I tried it on serial port on the back and it works, for
some
reason, not on the mike connector on the front which is
what
I
use on my other repeaters. Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io"
<wa0vjr@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


that is what I thought, then why do I get that error?

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


KPG-91D will work

Ken



At 09:40 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I thought my software for my 850 would work, but it says
check
radio model, retry. Does it take a different program?
Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102



------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]














------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]










































------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]





















Re: trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater

 

desense from service monitor, I don't follow that at all.
service monitor sounds fine on other radios. I've tried various
levels, all have the same noise.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
851 repeater


This is just a guess, but it sounds like desence from your
service monitor, but I could be full of it! I will let someone
else comment who actually knows more about this type of stuff.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 6:36?PM, Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

? this on the bench with a service monitor. dummy load on
the
transmitter, repeat mode turnede off. When first turned on,
sounds nice and quiet. AFter a minute or so, gets a noise like
bacon frying. Of course it is repeated if I turn on the
transmitter. As I said, just feeding a signal into the
receiver
with my ifr 1200.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


The cracklies?

Duplexer?
Cabling?
Feedline?






At 01:48 PM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
Anyone have any thoughts on this problem?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 3:02???PM, Butch-tiny
puppy via groups.io <wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???o.k., is quiet until it is on about a minute then gets a
crackle
kind of like bacon frying.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


I changed frequency to 442.100. But not sure about the
crackle. I
tried it here and didn't notice any noise on RX.

Give me a call later on tomorrow, since leaving soon.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On
Behalf Of Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater

The repeater has a noise on receive like bacon frying. Not
sure
what is causing that. I can give you a call if you want to
listen to it. kind of a crackling noise. I haven't tried
adjusting anything yet, but sensativity is poor even on the
151.1875 frequency.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


That's good to know thanks. Hopefully my little laptop comes
by
Wednesday because tentatively planning on going back to the
site
in portage on Thursday to visit the lady Buggs, well OK not
really, but putting up the Lincoln tenor for the repeaters
and
figuring out what is going on with my DNC. I turned it on and
it
gives me a little Gibberish character, but then I turn it off
and
back on again and then it works. Might have to just flush the
whole TNC and start over. Would like it just to power up and
work
because if there's a power failure and that TNC comes back on
then it won't power up correctly and I'm 70+ miles away from
the
site with no transportation.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:58???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???yes, works fine. nvda is the best, although works with
window-eyes
as well.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


That was one of my questions I actually had and you might
have
just
answered it for me, but, does your Windows XP box work with
the
KPG
91D software?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:32???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???The computer I usually use doesn't have a serial port
and I
can't
find my usb to serial adapter, so fired up my old xp
machine
with a
for real serial port.
Thanks all for your help. Good to know about the fuse.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


See Chris's comments about the fuse.

BTW, the only reason to use the mic jack is if you're
updating
the
firmware (or don't want to otherwise with the rear panel
DB25).

Good to hear you're good to go

Ken



At 10:13 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I tried it on serial port on the back and it works, for
some
reason, not on the mike connector on the front which is
what
I
use on my other repeaters. Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io"
<wa0vjr@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


that is what I thought, then why do I get that error?

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


KPG-91D will work

Ken



At 09:40 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I thought my software for my 850 would work, but it says
check
radio model, retry. Does it take a different program?
Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102



------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]














------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
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------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]












Re: trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater

 

signal from ifr is fine on another radio. I've tried varying
strength which makes no difference. Feeding output from ifr
directly into the repeater receiver. Transmitter is off. The
attached recording starts with a cold startI then pause recording
and the noise you hear is after repeater has warmed up a couple
minutes. I don't know if it is related, but receiver sensativity
is down ten db or more from my other kenwood repeaters. Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102

----- Original Message -----
From: "John via groups.io" <gielisj@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
851 repeater


Thought on frying bacon sound

1. have you fed a signal from something else, instead
2. is the signal from the 1200 clean, too strong
3. can you insert an attenuator in the signal line
4. how are you feeding this 1200 signal - direct or via an
antenna
5. figure out why the 'minute or so' delay is relevant

We'll take your word that it sound like frying bacon..
There is no mistaking the smell of it :)

73 John VK4JKL

On 11/05/2025 9:36 am, Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io wrote:
this on the bench with a service monitor. dummy load on
the
transmitter, repeat mode turnede off. When first turned on,
sounds nice and quiet. AFter a minute or so, gets a noise like
bacon frying. Of course it is repeated if I turn on the
transmitter. As I said, just feeding a signal into the
receiver
with my ifr 1200.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


The cracklies?

Duplexer?
Cabling?
Feedline?






At 01:48 PM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
Anyone have any thoughts on this problem?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 3:02???PM, Butch-tiny
puppy via groups.io <wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???o.k., is quiet until it is on about a minute then gets a
crackle
kind of like bacon frying.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


I changed frequency to 442.100. But not sure about the
crackle. I
tried it here and didn't notice any noise on RX.

Give me a call later on tomorrow, since leaving soon.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On
Behalf Of Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater

The repeater has a noise on receive like bacon frying. Not
sure
what is causing that. I can give you a call if you want to
listen to it. kind of a crackling noise. I haven't tried
adjusting anything yet, but sensativity is poor even on the
151.1875 frequency.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


That's good to know thanks. Hopefully my little laptop comes
by
Wednesday because tentatively planning on going back to the
site
in portage on Thursday to visit the lady Buggs, well OK not
really, but putting up the Lincoln tenor for the repeaters
and
figuring out what is going on with my DNC. I turned it on and
it
gives me a little Gibberish character, but then I turn it off
and
back on again and then it works. Might have to just flush the
whole TNC and start over. Would like it just to power up and
work
because if there's a power failure and that TNC comes back on
then it won't power up correctly and I'm 70+ miles away from
the
site with no transportation.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:58???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???yes, works fine. nvda is the best, although works with
window-eyes
as well.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


That was one of my questions I actually had and you might
have
just
answered it for me, but, does your Windows XP box work with
the
KPG
91D software?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:32???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???The computer I usually use doesn't have a serial port
and I
can't
find my usb to serial adapter, so fired up my old xp
machine
with a
for real serial port.
Thanks all for your help. Good to know about the fuse.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


See Chris's comments about the fuse.

BTW, the only reason to use the mic jack is if you're
updating
the
firmware (or don't want to otherwise with the rear panel
DB25).

Good to hear you're good to go

Ken



At 10:13 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I tried it on serial port on the back and it works, for
some
reason, not on the mike connector on the front which is
what
I
use on my other repeaters. Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io"
<wa0vjr@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


that is what I thought, then why do I get that error?

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


KPG-91D will work

Ken



At 09:40 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I thought my software for my 850 would work, but it says
check
radio model, retry. Does it take a different program?
Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102



------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]














------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]










































------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]












Re: Broadcast audio on repeater receive audio

 

What about putting a dummy load directly on the 420 receiver. Then, using an HT, transmit a signal near the receiver. If the FM station audio goes away, the problem is external to the equipment, possibly intermod. If you still hear the FM audio the problem is in the receive equipment. At least that is a start at locating where it is coming from.

Joe, K1ike

On 5/10/2025 8:07 PM, Chris Baldwin via groups.io wrote:
This one is playing hell with my sanity.
I've got a 440 site with a 420 link radio that has broadcast audio from 95.7FM coming in along with the repeater receiver audio. I can dial it down to zero using the controller's audio input pot, so I'd assume it's coming in on the RX audio line. The audio level of the broadcast audio is significantly lower than the repeat audio, so the repeater is still usable, it's just... Highly annoying.
Switched all audio lines over to RG174. Tried grounding both ends of the shield, one end of the shield, the other end of the shield, nothing. Tried some ferrites (the ones that come with the Quantar and AstroTAC equipment), no luck. Tried them everywhere. AC lines, audio lines, control lines, no change.
Only noticeable change is that when the RX audio line shield of the 174 is grounded, the audio level of the broadcast FM increases.
Receiver is a Tait T800-I slimline. I wonder if it's all the exposed wiring on the back side of it that's picking this up.
I've tried just about everything I can think of with regard to shielding and ferrites. I don't believe that RF is getting into the controller itself directly, it's obviously coming in on the RX audio line.
At this point I am considering swapping the Tait with a TKR-840 so there isn't so much exposed wiring, nor a need for an outboard PL encoder/ decoder which could be part of this (but I tried ferrites on all of its cabling as well.
OK braintrust... Jeff/WN3A, whatcha got for me? This one is out of my league.
Thanks!
Chris/KF6AJM
--
Chris Baldwin, CETSr. (KF6AJM)
Trustee - MetroNET Cal. Intertie (KB3PX)


Re: trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater

 

Thought on frying bacon sound

1. have you fed a signal from something else, instead
2. is the signal from the 1200 clean, too strong
3. can you insert an attenuator in the signal line
4. how are you feeding this 1200 signal - direct or via an antenna
5. figure out why the 'minute or so' delay is relevant

We'll take your word that it sound like frying bacon..
There is no mistaking the smell of it :)

73 John VK4JKL

On 11/05/2025 9:36 am, Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io wrote:
this on the bench with a service monitor. dummy load on the
transmitter, repeat mode turnede off. When first turned on,
sounds nice and quiet. AFter a minute or so, gets a noise like
bacon frying. Of course it is repeated if I turn on the
transmitter. As I said, just feeding a signal into the receiver
with my ifr 1200.
Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
851 repeater
The cracklies?
Duplexer?
Cabling?
Feedline?
At 01:48 PM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
Anyone have any thoughts on this problem?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 3:02???PM, Butch-tiny
puppy via groups.io <wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???o.k., is quiet until it is on about a minute then gets a
crackle
kind of like bacon frying.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


I changed frequency to 442.100. But not sure about the
crackle. I
tried it here and didn't notice any noise on RX.

Give me a call later on tomorrow, since leaving soon.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On
Behalf Of Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater

The repeater has a noise on receive like bacon frying. Not
sure
what is causing that. I can give you a call if you want to
listen to it. kind of a crackling noise. I haven't tried
adjusting anything yet, but sensativity is poor even on the
151.1875 frequency.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


That's good to know thanks. Hopefully my little laptop comes
by
Wednesday because tentatively planning on going back to the
site
in portage on Thursday to visit the lady Buggs, well OK not
really, but putting up the Lincoln tenor for the repeaters
and
figuring out what is going on with my DNC. I turned it on and
it
gives me a little Gibberish character, but then I turn it off
and
back on again and then it works. Might have to just flush the
whole TNC and start over. Would like it just to power up and
work
because if there's a power failure and that TNC comes back on
then it won't power up correctly and I'm 70+ miles away from
the
site with no transportation.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:58???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???yes, works fine. nvda is the best, although works with
window-eyes
as well.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


That was one of my questions I actually had and you might
have
just
answered it for me, but, does your Windows XP box work with
the
KPG
91D software?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:32???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???The computer I usually use doesn't have a serial port
and I
can't
find my usb to serial adapter, so fired up my old xp
machine
with a
for real serial port.
Thanks all for your help. Good to know about the fuse.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


See Chris's comments about the fuse.

BTW, the only reason to use the mic jack is if you're
updating
the
firmware (or don't want to otherwise with the rear panel
DB25).

Good to hear you're good to go

Ken



At 10:13 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I tried it on serial port on the back and it works, for
some
reason, not on the mike connector on the front which is
what
I
use on my other repeaters. Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io"
<wa0vjr@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


that is what I thought, then why do I get that error?

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


KPG-91D will work

Ken



At 09:40 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I thought my software for my 850 would work, but it says
check
radio model, retry. Does it take a different program?
Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102



------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]














------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]










































------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]


Broadcast audio on repeater receive audio

 

This one is playing hell with my sanity.
?
I've got a 440 site with a 420 link radio that has broadcast audio from 95.7FM coming in along with the repeater receiver audio. I can dial it down to zero using the controller's audio input pot, so I'd assume it's coming in on the RX audio line. The audio level of the broadcast audio is significantly lower than the repeat audio, so the repeater is still usable, it's just... Highly annoying.
?
Switched all audio lines over to RG174. Tried grounding both ends of the shield, one end of the shield, the other end of the shield, nothing. Tried some ferrites (the ones that come with the Quantar and AstroTAC equipment), no luck. Tried them everywhere. AC lines, audio lines, control lines, no change.
?
Only noticeable change is that when the RX audio line shield of the 174 is grounded, the audio level of the broadcast FM increases.
?
Receiver is a Tait T800-I slimline. I wonder if it's all the exposed wiring on the back side of it that's picking this up.
?
I've tried just about everything I can think of with regard to shielding and ferrites. I don't believe that RF is getting into the controller itself directly, it's obviously coming in on the RX audio line.
?
At this point I am considering swapping the Tait with a TKR-840 so there isn't so much exposed wiring, nor a need for an outboard PL encoder/decoder which could be part of this (but I tried ferrites on all of its cabling as well.
?
OK braintrust... Jeff/WN3A, whatcha got for me? This one is out of my league.
?
Thanks!
?
Chris/KF6AJM
?
--
Chris Baldwin, CETSr. (KF6AJM)
Trustee - MetroNET Cal. Intertie (KB3PX)


Speaking of Hamvention

 

We have a clean MSR2000, crystalled for 444.925T/449.925R
working condition.? Includes factory duplexer. No PL, No Id'er,
no external controller.
Asking only $50.? Can bring to Hamvention if anyone wants it.
Reply to kd4ss@....


Re: trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater

 

This is just a guess, but it sounds like desence from your service monitor, but I could be full of it! I will let someone else comment who actually knows more about this type of stuff.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 6:36?PM, Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io <wa0vjr@...> wrote:

? this on the bench with a service monitor. dummy load on the
transmitter, repeat mode turnede off. When first turned on,
sounds nice and quiet. AFter a minute or so, gets a noise like
bacon frying. Of course it is repeated if I turn on the
transmitter. As I said, just feeding a signal into the receiver
with my ifr 1200.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
851 repeater


The cracklies?

Duplexer?
Cabling?
Feedline?






At 01:48 PM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
Anyone have any thoughts on this problem?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 3:02???PM, Butch-tiny
puppy via groups.io <wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???o.k., is quiet until it is on about a minute then gets a
crackle
kind of like bacon frying.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


I changed frequency to 442.100. But not sure about the
crackle. I
tried it here and didn't notice any noise on RX.

Give me a call later on tomorrow, since leaving soon.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On
Behalf Of Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater

The repeater has a noise on receive like bacon frying. Not
sure
what is causing that. I can give you a call if you want to
listen to it. kind of a crackling noise. I haven't tried
adjusting anything yet, but sensativity is poor even on the
151.1875 frequency.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


That's good to know thanks. Hopefully my little laptop comes
by
Wednesday because tentatively planning on going back to the
site
in portage on Thursday to visit the lady Buggs, well OK not
really, but putting up the Lincoln tenor for the repeaters
and
figuring out what is going on with my DNC. I turned it on and
it
gives me a little Gibberish character, but then I turn it off
and
back on again and then it works. Might have to just flush the
whole TNC and start over. Would like it just to power up and
work
because if there's a power failure and that TNC comes back on
then it won't power up correctly and I'm 70+ miles away from
the
site with no transportation.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:58???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???yes, works fine. nvda is the best, although works with
window-eyes
as well.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


That was one of my questions I actually had and you might
have
just
answered it for me, but, does your Windows XP box work with
the
KPG
91D software?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:32???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???The computer I usually use doesn't have a serial port
and I
can't
find my usb to serial adapter, so fired up my old xp
machine
with a
for real serial port.
Thanks all for your help. Good to know about the fuse.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


See Chris's comments about the fuse.

BTW, the only reason to use the mic jack is if you're
updating
the
firmware (or don't want to otherwise with the rear panel
DB25).

Good to hear you're good to go

Ken



At 10:13 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I tried it on serial port on the back and it works, for
some
reason, not on the mike connector on the front which is
what
I
use on my other repeaters. Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io"
<wa0vjr@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


that is what I thought, then why do I get that error?

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


KPG-91D will work

Ken



At 09:40 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I thought my software for my 850 would work, but it says
check
radio model, retry. Does it take a different program?
Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102



------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]














------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]










































------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]












Re: trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater

 

this on the bench with a service monitor. dummy load on the
transmitter, repeat mode turnede off. When first turned on,
sounds nice and quiet. AFter a minute or so, gets a noise like
bacon frying. Of course it is repeated if I turn on the
transmitter. As I said, just feeding a signal into the receiver
with my ifr 1200.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
851 repeater


The cracklies?

Duplexer?
Cabling?
Feedline?






At 01:48 PM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
Anyone have any thoughts on this problem?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 3:02???PM, Butch-tiny
puppy via groups.io <wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???o.k., is quiet until it is on about a minute then gets a
crackle
kind of like bacon frying.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


I changed frequency to 442.100. But not sure about the
crackle. I
tried it here and didn't notice any noise on RX.

Give me a call later on tomorrow, since leaving soon.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On
Behalf Of Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater

The repeater has a noise on receive like bacon frying. Not
sure
what is causing that. I can give you a call if you want to
listen to it. kind of a crackling noise. I haven't tried
adjusting anything yet, but sensativity is poor even on the
151.1875 frequency.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


That's good to know thanks. Hopefully my little laptop comes
by
Wednesday because tentatively planning on going back to the
site
in portage on Thursday to visit the lady Buggs, well OK not
really, but putting up the Lincoln tenor for the repeaters
and
figuring out what is going on with my DNC. I turned it on and
it
gives me a little Gibberish character, but then I turn it off
and
back on again and then it works. Might have to just flush the
whole TNC and start over. Would like it just to power up and
work
because if there's a power failure and that TNC comes back on
then it won't power up correctly and I'm 70+ miles away from
the
site with no transportation.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:58???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???yes, works fine. nvda is the best, although works with
window-eyes
as well.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


That was one of my questions I actually had and you might
have
just
answered it for me, but, does your Windows XP box work with
the
KPG
91D software?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:32???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???The computer I usually use doesn't have a serial port
and I
can't
find my usb to serial adapter, so fired up my old xp
machine
with a
for real serial port.
Thanks all for your help. Good to know about the fuse.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


See Chris's comments about the fuse.

BTW, the only reason to use the mic jack is if you're
updating
the
firmware (or don't want to otherwise with the rear panel
DB25).

Good to hear you're good to go

Ken



At 10:13 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I tried it on serial port on the back and it works, for
some
reason, not on the mike connector on the front which is
what
I
use on my other repeaters. Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io"
<wa0vjr@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


that is what I thought, then why do I get that error?

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


KPG-91D will work

Ken



At 09:40 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I thought my software for my 850 would work, but it says
check
radio model, retry. Does it take a different program?
Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102



------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]














------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]










































------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]


Re: quantar use for 2meter repeater

 

First thing I see is a low split receiver and a high-split transmitter. Is that correct? Have you pressed the "Validate Configuration" button while hooked to the station..?


Re: quantar use for 2meter repeater

 

thanks for the replies
repeater is selected and pl set
when i key up on the set freq the rx 1 active light is on but the tx does nothing
rss 14.10
i have attached the codeplug for some experenced person to look at and modify please


FS More antenna & guy wire at Hamvention

 

Guys,

In addition to the list of guy wire that I sent yesterday, I will be bringing the following antenna and guy wire:

350 Feet of 1/8" galvanized stranded steel antenna, or light-weight guy,?
????wire - $10
225 Feet of 5/16" Stainless stranded guy wire - $10
145 Feet of 1/8" stranded wire rope - $8
160 Feet of copper clad solid steel antenna wire - $8
200 Feet of copper clad solid steel antenna wire - $10
90 Feet of copper clad solid steel antenna wire - $3
50 Feet of 1/4" stainless stranded guy wire - $5
39 Feet of 1/8" steel wire - FREE
35 Feet of 1/4" solid aluminum ground wire - $15

Again, lengths are close, but may not exact.??

I have all of the above loaded in my van, so they will be there next weekend. The pieces I listed yesterday are big and heavy, so I'd rather not bother with taking them if nobody wants any of them.

In addition to the MII, Bird and DB items listed yesterday, I'm also bringing a nice R-390, Viking II, Collins 180L antenna tuner, and a whole lot of other stuph, so please stop by my fleamarket spaces 9404 and 9405 (at the very North end of the fleamarket, not far from the home-made icecream truck) and say "HI".

Y'all have a safe trip to and from the Hamvention!

73, Gary? W3DTN


Re: trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater

 

The cracklies?

Duplexer?
Cabling?
Feedline?






At 01:48 PM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
Anyone have any thoughts on this problem?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 3:02?€?PM, Butch-tiny
puppy via groups.io <wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???o.k., is quiet until it is on about a minute then gets a crackle
kind of like bacon frying.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
851 repeater


I changed frequency to 442.100. But not sure about the crackle. I
tried it here and didn't notice any noise on RX.

Give me a call later on tomorrow, since leaving soon.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
851 repeater

The repeater has a noise on receive like bacon frying. Not sure
what is causing that. I can give you a call if you want to
listen to it. kind of a crackling noise. I haven't tried
adjusting anything yet, but sensativity is poor even on the
151.1875 frequency.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
851 repeater


That's good to know thanks. Hopefully my little laptop comes by
Wednesday because tentatively planning on going back to the site
in portage on Thursday to visit the lady Buggs, well OK not
really, but putting up the Lincoln tenor for the repeaters and
figuring out what is going on with my DNC. I turned it on and it
gives me a little Gibberish character, but then I turn it off and
back on again and then it works. Might have to just flush the
whole TNC and start over. Would like it just to power up and work
because if there's a power failure and that TNC comes back on
then it won't power up correctly and I'm 70+ miles away from the
site with no transportation.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:58?€?PM, Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???yes, works fine. nvda is the best, although works with
window-eyes
as well.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


That was one of my questions I actually had and you might have
just
answered it for me, but, does your Windows XP box work with the
KPG
91D software?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:32?€?PM, Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

???The computer I usually use doesn't have a serial port and I
can't
find my usb to serial adapter, so fired up my old xp machine
with a
for real serial port.
Thanks all for your help. Good to know about the fuse.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


See Chris's comments about the fuse.

BTW, the only reason to use the mic jack is if you're updating
the
firmware (or don't want to otherwise with the rear panel
DB25).

Good to hear you're good to go

Ken



At 10:13 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I tried it on serial port on the back and it works, for some
reason, not on the mike connector on the front which is what
I
use on my other repeaters. Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io"
<wa0vjr@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


that is what I thought, then why do I get that error?

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


KPG-91D will work

Ken



At 09:40 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I thought my software for my 850 would work, but it says
check
radio model, retry. Does it take a different program?
Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102



------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]














------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]










































------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]


Re: trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater

 

Anyone have any thoughts on this problem?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 3:02?PM, Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io <wa0vjr@...> wrote:

?o.k., is quiet until it is on about a minute then gets a crackle
kind of like bacon frying.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
851 repeater


I changed frequency to 442.100. But not sure about the crackle. I
tried it here and didn't notice any noise on RX.

Give me a call later on tomorrow, since leaving soon.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
851 repeater

The repeater has a noise on receive like bacon frying. Not sure
what is causing that. I can give you a call if you want to
listen to it. kind of a crackling noise. I haven't tried
adjusting anything yet, but sensativity is poor even on the
151.1875 frequency.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
851 repeater


That's good to know thanks. Hopefully my little laptop comes by
Wednesday because tentatively planning on going back to the site
in portage on Thursday to visit the lady Buggs, well OK not
really, but putting up the Lincoln tenor for the repeaters and
figuring out what is going on with my DNC. I turned it on and it
gives me a little Gibberish character, but then I turn it off and
back on again and then it works. Might have to just flush the
whole TNC and start over. Would like it just to power up and work
because if there's a power failure and that TNC comes back on
then it won't power up correctly and I'm 70+ miles away from the
site with no transportation.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:58?PM, Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

?yes, works fine. nvda is the best, although works with
window-eyes
as well.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io"
<chad.nelson71@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


That was one of my questions I actually had and you might have
just
answered it for me, but, does your Windows XP box work with the
KPG
91D software?
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On May 10, 2025, at 12:32?PM, Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io
<wa0vjr@...> wrote:

?The computer I usually use doesn't have a serial port and I
can't
find my usb to serial adapter, so fired up my old xp machine
with a
for real serial port.
Thanks all for your help. Good to know about the fuse.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


See Chris's comments about the fuse.

BTW, the only reason to use the mic jack is if you're updating
the
firmware (or don't want to otherwise with the rear panel
DB25).

Good to hear you're good to go

Ken



At 10:13 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I tried it on serial port on the back and it works, for some
reason, not on the mike connector on the front which is what
I
use on my other repeaters. Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io"
<wa0vjr@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


that is what I thought, then why do I get that error?

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io"
<ken@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
kenwood
851 repeater


KPG-91D will work

Ken



At 09:40 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I thought my software for my 850 would work, but it says
check
radio model, retry. Does it take a different program?
Thanks.

Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102



------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
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President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
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