Transmitter off? ? And if so, take the fact that it's a repeater totally out of the picture. ? Because it's not a repeater at that point, it's only a receiver.? So are you listening to this noise that comes in on the monitor speaker??? What does the noise do if you listen to the output of the discriminator?
And if your receive sensitivity is down 10 db, the issues are likely related.
Andy
On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 8:58?PM Butch-tiny puppy via <wa0vjr= [email protected]> wrote: signal from ifr is fine on another radio.? I've tried varying
strength which makes no difference.? Feeding output from ifr
directly into the repeater receiver.? Transmitter is off.? The
attached recording starts with a cold startI then pause recording
and the noise you hear is after repeater? has warmed up a couple
minutes.? I don't know if it is related, but receiver sensativity
is down ten db or more from my other kenwood repeaters.? Thanks.
Butch Bussen
wa0vjr
wa0vjr@...
irlp 7135
allstar 56023
echolink 790800
new home phone 785 852-1102
----- Original Message -----
From: "John via " <gielisj=[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
851 repeater
Thought on frying bacon sound
1. have you fed a signal from something else, instead
2. is the signal from the 1200 clean, too strong
3. can you insert an attenuator in the signal line
4. how are you feeding this 1200 signal - direct or via an
antenna
5. figure out why the 'minute or so' delay is relevant
We'll take your word that it sound like frying bacon..
There is no mistaking the smell of it :)
73 John VK4JKL
On 11/05/2025 9:36 am, Butch-tiny puppy via wrote:
>? ? ? this on the bench with a service monitor.? dummy load on
> the
> transmitter, repeat mode turnede off.? When first turned on,
> sounds nice and quiet.? AFter a minute or so, gets a noise like
> bacon frying.? Of course it is repeated if I turn on the
> transmitter.? As I said, just feeding a signal into the
> receiver
> with my ifr 1200.
>
> Butch Bussen
> wa0vjr
> wa0vjr@...
> irlp 7135
> allstar 56023
> echolink 790800
> new home phone 785 852-1102
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via "
> <ken=[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 3:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
> kenwood
> 851 repeater
>
>
> The cracklies?
>
> Duplexer?
> Cabling?
> Feedline?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 01:48 PM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
>> Anyone have any thoughts on this problem?
>> Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
>> Janesville Wisconsin
>> 608-754-8671
>> Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
>>
>>> On May 10, 2025, at 3:02???PM, Butch-tiny
>> puppy via <wa0vjr=[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> ???o.k., is quiet until it is on about a minute then gets a
>>> crackle
>>> kind of like bacon frying.
>>>
>>> Butch Bussen
>>> wa0vjr
>>> wa0vjr@...
>>> irlp 7135
>>> allstar 56023
>>> echolink 790800
>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Chad Nelson via "
>>> <chad.nelson71=[email protected]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 1:44 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>> kenwood
>>> 851 repeater
>>>
>>>
>>> I changed frequency to 442.100. But not sure about the
>>> crackle. I
>>> tried it here and didn't notice any noise on RX.
>>>
>>> Give me a call later on tomorrow, since leaving soon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Butch-tiny puppy via
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:21 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>> kenwood
>>> 851 repeater
>>>
>>> The repeater has a noise on receive like bacon frying.? Not
>>> sure
>>> what is causing that.? I can give you a call if you want to
>>> listen to it.? kind of a crackling noise.? I haven't tried
>>> adjusting anything yet, but sensativity is poor even on the
>>> 151.1875 frequency.
>>>
>>> Butch Bussen
>>> wa0vjr
>>> wa0vjr@...
>>> irlp 7135
>>> allstar 56023
>>> echolink 790800
>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Chad Nelson via "
>>> <chad.nelson71=[email protected]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 12:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>> kenwood
>>> 851 repeater
>>>
>>>
>>> That's good to know thanks. Hopefully my little laptop comes
>>> by
>>> Wednesday because tentatively planning on going back to the
>>> site
>>> in portage on Thursday to visit the lady Buggs, well OK not
>>> really, but putting up the Lincoln tenor for the repeaters
>>> and
>>> figuring out what is going on with my DNC. I turned it on and
>>> it
>>> gives me a little Gibberish character, but then I turn it off
>>> and
>>> back on again and then it works. Might have to just flush the
>>> whole TNC and start over. Would like it just to power up and
>>> work
>>> because if there's a power failure and that TNC comes back on
>>> then it won't power up correctly and I'm 70+ miles away from
>>> the
>>> site with no transportation.
>>> Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
>>> Janesville Wisconsin
>>> 608-754-8671
>>> Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
>>>
>>>> On May 10, 2025, at 12:58???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
>>>>
>>>> <wa0vjr=[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ???yes, works fine.? nvda is the best, although works with
>>>> window-eyes
>>>> as well.
>>>>
>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>> wa0vjr
>>>> wa0vjr@...
>>>> irlp 7135
>>>> allstar 56023
>>>> echolink 790800
>>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Chad Nelson via "
>>>> <chad.nelson71=[email protected]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:44 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>>> kenwood
>>>> 851 repeater
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That was one of my questions I actually had and you might
>>>> have
>>>> just
>>>> answered it for me, but, does your Windows XP box work with
>>>> the
>>>> KPG
>>>> 91D software?
>>>> Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
>>>> Janesville Wisconsin
>>>> 608-754-8671
>>>> Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
>>>>
>>>>> On May 10, 2025, at 12:32???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
>>>>>
>>>>> <wa0vjr=[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ???The computer I usually use doesn't have a serial port
>>>>> and I
>>>>> can't
>>>>> find my usb to serial adapter, so fired up my old xp
>>>>> machine
>>>>> with a
>>>>> for real serial port.
>>>>> Thanks all for your help. Good to know about the fuse.
>>>>>
>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>> wa0vjr@...
>>>>> irlp 7135
>>>>> allstar 56023
>>>>> echolink 790800
>>>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via "
>>>>> <ken=[email protected]>
>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:21 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>>>> kenwood
>>>>> 851 repeater
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> See Chris's comments about the fuse.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, the only reason to use the mic jack is if you're
>>>>> updating
>>>>> the
>>>>> firmware (or don't want to otherwise with the rear panel
>>>>> DB25).
>>>>>
>>>>> Good to hear you're good to go
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 10:13 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
>>>>>> I tried it on serial port on the back and it works, for
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> reason, not on the mike connector on the front which is
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> use on my other repeaters.? Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>>> wa0vjr@...
>>>>>> irlp 7135
>>>>>> allstar 56023
>>>>>> echolink 790800
>>>>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Butch-tiny puppy via "
>>>>>> <wa0vjr=[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:43 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>>>>> kenwood
>>>>>> 851 repeater
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that is what I thought, then why do I get that error?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>>> wa0vjr@...
>>>>>> irlp 7135
>>>>>> allstar 56023
>>>>>> echolink 790800
>>>>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via "
>>>>>> <ken=[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:42 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>>>>> kenwood
>>>>>> 851 repeater
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> KPG-91D will work
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 09:40 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
>>>>>>> I thought my software for my 850 would work, but it says
>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>> radio model, retry.? Does it take a different program?
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>>>> wa0vjr@...
>>>>>>> irlp 7135
>>>>>>> allstar 56023
>>>>>>> echolink 790800
>>>>>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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