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Baldwin Coal Bunker


 

Does anyone have any clear photos of the coal bunker of a WDLR Baldwin taken from inside the cab and showing the lifting doors please? Better still if anyone has intimate relations with a real one some dimensions would be great!

Thanks,

Kevin.



 

Hi Kevin,

I've just started an album 'WDLR Baldwin coal bunker' and added 3 photo's of the coal bunker doors on the Leighton Buzzard Baldwin. No dimensions unfortunately.

Cheers,

Mark.?
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Hi Kevin,

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I will try to attach this sketch which is the best that I could come up with in the 1980’s.? It seems to agree pretty closely with Marks photos.

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Cheers,

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Robin

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Does anyone have any clear photos of the coal bunker of a WDLR Baldwin taken from inside the cab and showing the lifting doors please? Better still if anyone has intimate relations with a real one some dimensions would be great!

Thanks,

Kevin.

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Way back in the 1980's, I started doing quite a bit of research into the WDLR Baldwin steam locos. ?I pulled together a few notes, mainly based on the available photographic evidence from books which I shared with a number of people. ?Years later, after meeting Douglas Clayton at an exhibition, I corresponded a bit with him and he was very helpful in correcting a number of my spectacular errors. ?He agreed that I could use his drawing (from Erick Tonks' SDR book) to highlight the various differences between the Baldwins used subsequently in the UK. ?I am not a draughtsman and my sketches were crude. ?We were still debating the best way forward when Douglass, sadly, died. ?I haven't got his permission to publish any of my updates on his drawing but I have found my notes and I am in the process of checking them against more recent publications. ?

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It is still very much work in progress and I am sure that others far more knowledgeable than me can correct them and help us all towards a collective understanding of these fascinating locos.

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I have loaded them onto my own web site so I don’t take up valuable space on the O14 Yahoo Group site.

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Part 1 is here:

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which covers a general introduction

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Part 2 is here:

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This covers the WHR, GVT and SDR locos.

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Part 3 is going to cover the Ashover and part 4 will cover cab details, but these are a way off yet I am afraid.

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I hope the links work!

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Regards,

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Robin

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From: O14@... [mailto:O14@...]
Sent: 27 July 2017 1:49 PM
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Subject: [O14] Baldwin Coal Bunker

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Does anyone have any clear photos of the coal bunker of a WDLR Baldwin taken from inside the cab and showing the lifting doors please? Better still if anyone has intimate relations with a real one some dimensions would be great!

Thanks,

Kevin.

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Hi Kevin & Mark,

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I have added a sketch of what I think the arrangement is to Mark’s folder.

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Cheers,

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Robin

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From: O14@... [mailto:O14@...]
Sent: 27 July 2017 4:07 PM
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Subject: [O14] Re: Baldwin Coal Bunker

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Hi Kevin,

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I've just started an album 'WDLR Baldwin coal bunker' and added 3 photo's of the coal bunker doors on the Leighton Buzzard Baldwin. No dimensions unfortunately.

?

Cheers,

?

Mark.?

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Thanks Robin,

That answers my question very well indeed and your two articles add much food for thought and greater understanding. Results of all this research should be evident on the layout soon!

Kevin.


 

If you add sufficient intellectual property from your own efforts to something that was originally produced by someone else, and you don’t show anything extraneous from the original, then you don’t need the originator’s permission to publish what has become, on balance, your intellectual property but you should acknowledge their original contribution. Of course, if the original originator is still contactable, it is always a good idea to communicate with them before publishing your own work, they may after all have discovered something else new in the meantime, but there is no obligation too.

Note that basic lists can never be considered as intellectual property.


 

Thanks very much for the clarification David.

I think that I am probably okay given how I am using the original information and the fact that I don't want to formally publish, just share. Douglas was a true craftsman and very particular about identifying dimensions. His drawings were prepared to a much larger scale and looked very impressive but some of the details became obscured when reduced by the 'cross-hare' identification of circle or radius centres. While I was happy to use his drawing as intended, I felt that I needed something less cluttered for some of the details.

Regards,

Robin

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Subject: [O14] Re: Baldwin Coal Bunker

If you add sufficient intellectual property from your own efforts to something that was originally produced by someone else, and you don’t show anything extraneous from the original, then you don’t need the originator’s permission to publish what has become, on balance, your intellectual property but you should acknowledge their original contribution. Of course, if the original originator is still contactable, it is always a good idea to communicate with them before publishing your own work, they may after all have discovered something else new in the meantime, but there is no obligation too.

Note that basic lists can never be considered as intellectual property.

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Douglas was a long time member and on the Committee of the Industrial Railway Society, so it is possible that he willed his railway collection and copyrights to the IRS.

It might be worth checking with them to see what the copyright possession is on his work;

Try David Kitching, their new Administrator: admin@...

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