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Re: HF packet data rates

 

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OK …. Here you go im going to give you all the combo and easiest way to do packet vhf or hf.you need a sound modem .signal link or rigblaster any thing you can find that creates two virtual comports. Enhanced and standard.A FT 991 A has it built in easiest to make this happen

These comm. Ports are needed to configure the software im? turning you on to. WINTNC V 2.10 and UZ&HO Sound modem ver 114????????? ?????????????????????

These links take you to the two programs you need configuring them both is easy as they both have help / manuals to down load.have fun 73 w4bkx Robert

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Lance WW2BSA
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 12:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [network105] HF packet data rates

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While your advice is good - except for the VARA part - (in case you forgot - VARA isn't packet) the gentleman is currently interested in using the equipment he has for Network105.

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73 de Chris ww2bsa

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From: "Mark Phillips via groups.io" <enicomms@...>

Date: 1/16/25 10:31 AM (GMT-05:00)

Subject: Re: [network105] HF packet data rates

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I somehow missed the whole "MFJ TNC" part.? Frankly in this day and age you can do much better. Sure, the TNC will work to an extent but it's a Z80 based hardware modem that has long been surpassed by software and DSP modems. It also limits you to 300bd AX 25 whereas a software or DSP modems can do other modes such as IL2P or Robust. Even VARA if you really must.

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I realize that you are getting conflicting advice in this email group but for my money and given the hardware available to you I would be doing a software modem. Win10 is a capable platform for software based modems and a sound card interface is trivial if you don't already have one. Keep the MFJ for local FM packet on 2M.

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Feel free to drop me a line off list me. My call at the League finds me. There's more than one way to skin this cat.

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Mark. NI2O

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On Wed, Jan 15, 2025, 18:27 Michael Boudreaux VE3XZ via <vk3xz=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Mark,

So Dire Wolf is the Most likely software to use with My MFJ Modems? Would that be correct?

I will try and locate DireWolf software as I don't know the others you mention but I know of Dire Wolf a little.

Maybe the others you mention are better. I would certainly like to get receive working quickly. Please advise.

thank you Mike vk4sy vk3xz


Re: HF packet data rates

 

I somehow missed the whole "MFJ TNC" part.? Frankly in this day and age you can do much better. Sure, the TNC will work to an extent but it's a Z80 based hardware modem that has long been surpassed by software and DSP modems. It also limits you to 300bd AX 25 whereas a software or DSP modems can do other modes such as IL2P or Robust. Even VARA if you really must.

I realize that you are getting conflicting advice in this email group but for my money and given the hardware available to you I would be doing a software modem. Win10 is a capable platform for software based modems and a sound card interface is trivial if you don't already have one. Keep the MFJ for local FM packet on 2M.

Feel free to drop me a line off list me. My call at the League finds me. There's more than one way to skin this cat.

Mark. NI2O

On Wed, Jan 15, 2025, 18:27 Michael Boudreaux VE3XZ via <vk3xz=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Mark,
So Dire Wolf is the Most likely software to use with My MFJ Modems? Would that be correct?
I will try and locate DireWolf software as I don't know the others you mention but I know of Dire Wolf a little.
Maybe the others you mention are better. I would certainly like to get receive working quickly. Please advise.
thank you Mike vk4sy vk3xz


Re: UZ7HO Question

 

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Good questions, i will need to do some reseach, i still run a club packet node that uses ?a sopra callsign….. ve3pkg.

The ham that took all the calls from the sk gave our club use of the sopra callsign as we were trying to rebuild the network……

Bob

On Jan 15, 2025, at 8:25?PM, Chris Lance WW2BSA <Ww2bsa@...> wrote:

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Oh, I think I understand...
SOPRA is still VE3CON, but I have it pinned to John's VE3NEC QTH who is SK.
So...where should I pin VE3CON to? What is SOPRA QTH?
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Chris ww2bsa
On 01/15/2025 8:20 PM EST Bob-va3rjs via groups.io <va3rjs@...> wrote:
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Yes SOPRA, ?the location where ve3con used to belong to John Langtry (ve3nec).
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So John passed a few years ago and his place was sold, all the antennas came down.
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The map i saw still had the ve3con at his old qrh.
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Bob
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On Jan 15, 2025, at 7:44?PM, Chris Lance WW2BSA <Ww2bsa@...> wrote:

Hi Bob,
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Thanks for the info. But, when I do a QRZ search that calls back to a club, the Southern Ontario Packet Radio Association. While the link on QRZ is invalid, the Association has a Facebook page:?
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Do you know the name of the SK ham?
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73 de Chris ww2bsa.org
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On 01/15/2025 1:28 PM EST Bob-va3rjs via groups.io <va3rjs@...> wrote:
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Which map is this? If it shows ve3con, it probably needs to come off, the Ham that hosted that is now SK…..
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Bob
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Re: UZ7HO Question

 

Oh, I think I understand...
SOPRA is still VE3CON, but I have it pinned to John's VE3NEC QTH who is SK.
So...where should I pin VE3CON to? What is SOPRA QTH?
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Chris ww2bsa

On 01/15/2025 8:20 PM EST Bob-va3rjs via groups.io <va3rjs@...> wrote:
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Yes SOPRA, ?the location where ve3con used to belong to John Langtry (ve3nec).
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So John passed a few years ago and his place was sold, all the antennas came down.
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The map i saw still had the ve3con at his old qrh.
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Bob
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On Jan 15, 2025, at 7:44?PM, Chris Lance WW2BSA <Ww2bsa@...> wrote:

Hi Bob,
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Thanks for the info. But, when I do a QRZ search that calls back to a club, the Southern Ontario Packet Radio Association. While the link on QRZ is invalid, the Association has a Facebook page:?
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Do you know the name of the SK ham?
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73 de Chris ww2bsa.org
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On 01/15/2025 1:28 PM EST Bob-va3rjs via groups.io <va3rjs@...> wrote:
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Which map is this? If it shows ve3con, it probably needs to come off, the Ham that hosted that is now SK…..
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Bob
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Re: UZ7HO Question

 

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Yes SOPRA, ?the location where ve3con used to belong to John Langtry (ve3nec).

So John passed a few years ago and his place was sold, all the antennas came down.

The map i saw still had the ve3con at his old qrh.

Bob



On Jan 15, 2025, at 7:44?PM, Chris Lance WW2BSA <Ww2bsa@...> wrote:

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Hi Bob,
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Thanks for the info. But, when I do a QRZ search that calls back to a club, the Southern Ontario Packet Radio Association. While the link on QRZ is invalid, the Association has a Facebook page:?
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Do you know the name of the SK ham?
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73 de Chris ww2bsa.org
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On 01/15/2025 1:28 PM EST Bob-va3rjs via groups.io <va3rjs@...> wrote:
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Which map is this? If it shows ve3con, it probably needs to come off, the Ham that hosted that is now SK…..
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Bob
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Re: HF packet data rates

 

Hi Michael and welcome to the group.
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My knowledge is limited, but let's first make sure the TNC is working.
Hook up your MFJ TNC (what model???) to your computer.
Download and run PuTTY (there is a 32 and 64 bit version)
See if you can establish communications with the TNC first.
Depending if your computer has a USB or DB9 serial port, you'll need to determine the com port number by going into Windows Control Panel - Hardware (assuming you're running windows)?
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Let's start there. But email me some info - TNC model, type of computer and exactly what you want to do.
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I'm at ww2bsa@...
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Also, check out for more info on HF packet on 14.105.
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73 de Chris, Moderator
ww2bsa.org

On 01/15/2025 6:08 PM EST Michael Boudreaux VE3XZ via groups.io <vk3xz@...> wrote:
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Hi,
I don't have any links on how to use the MFJ TNC for use on 104? a very nice thing to
try don't know if possible activity in Australia or Beyond. Can someone provide a few links for me to try?
I have plenty of computer and Engineering experience now Retire at 73 years and Having Begging's of
Parkensons So a Bit Wobbly but Love Amateur Radio it Helps Tremendously!? 73 Mike vk4sy vk3xz
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Re: UZ7HO Question

 

Hi Larry, I updated your QTH on the packet map.
Please share what you are running on VHF and/or HF packet, frequencies, -SSID, nodes, BBS, keyboard-to-keyboard, F/t or P/T.
Tnx es 73 de Chris ww2bsa.org

On 01/15/2025 9:34 AM EST Larry Irons via groups.io <ironslsc@...> wrote:
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Chris,
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I have moved from Colorado to Fargo, ND. You may change my map location on your map.
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Larry Irons
K0LAI
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Re: UZ7HO Question

 

Hi Bob,
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Thanks for the info. But, when I do a QRZ search that calls back to a club, the Southern Ontario Packet Radio Association. While the link on QRZ is invalid, the Association has a Facebook page:?
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Do you know the name of the SK ham?
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73 de Chris ww2bsa.org
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On 01/15/2025 1:28 PM EST Bob-va3rjs via groups.io <va3rjs@...> wrote:
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Which map is this? If it shows ve3con, it probably needs to come off, the Ham that hosted that is now SK…..
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Bob
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Re: HF packet data rates

 

Hi Mark,
Would these be terminal Programs? 73 vk4sy


Re: HF packet data rates

 

Hi Mark,
So Dire Wolf is the Most likely software to use with My MFJ Modems? Would that be correct?
I will try and locate DireWolf software as I don't know the others you mention but I know of Dire Wolf a little.
Maybe the others you mention are better. I would certainly like to get receive working quickly. Please advise.
thank you Mike vk4sy vk3xz


Re: HF packet data rates

 

Hi Mike,
Thank you Kindly for the offer. I have not tried VARAC but I am very keen to try it. I wonder what Output Power
would ne required on 10 Meters to be successful? I have 400 watts Legal Limit available but usually use 20-30 watts on FT8,
But find FT8 an anti-social Mode. I have an End fed on 10-80 at 15 Meters(50 feet)? on a 2 Acre Block of Land. 2 15 Meter Telescoping Towers 6M beam 2M ground plane, dual Band Satellite Yagi 2m 70cm. I do sstv on ISS and HF. I have many digital Interfaces, 2 FTDX transceivers, 2Yaesu FT8900 Transceivers(fm), Transverter with Elad FDM Duo * 2.? I have some experience but enjoy RagChew. Thanks for any Guidance Mike B vk4sy Woodhill Queensland 4285 Australia


Re: HF packet data rates

 

Wow. That's an expensive radio to dedicate to packet. But it's simple really.? Does the rig have a built in sound card? If so the configure your direwolf to talk to it. Tune to the relevant frequency and then listen for data. You will see received packets on the direwolf screen.

Now you need software. Direwolf is just a modem. Once you have that working you will need to connect some software to it. Winlink is one. BPQ is another. Even JNOS would work. But until you connect the software to the modem the received data is useless.

Mark NI2O

On Wed, Jan 15, 2025, 17:10 Michael Boudreaux VE3XZ via <vk3xz=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Bob,
I am very new to this but an Old Dog Ham since 1974. What exactly( is there a Guide?) to get this working with windows 10 and yaesu FTDX1200. Thanks for the Info, but do not know how to get started. I need a Big Push Please! 73 Mike vk4sy


Re: HF packet data rates

 

Hi,
I don't have any links on how to use the MFJ TNC for use on 104? a very nice thing to
try don't know if possible activity in Australia or Beyond. Can someone provide a few links for me to try?
I have plenty of computer and Engineering experience now Retire at 73 years and Having Begging's of
Parkensons So a Bit Wobbly but Love Amateur Radio it Helps Tremendously!? 73 Mike vk4sy vk3xz
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Re: HF packet data rates

 

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Well, if you like rag-chewing you can come up to 10M. We've got Packet, RPR, VARAC, FreeData and APRS. We're getting the most use out of the frequency we can. (28.148USB dial)

73 de n5pwp
Mike

On 1/15/2025 4:54 PM, Michael Boudreaux VE3XZ via groups.io wrote:

Hi Bob,
I would like to connect to Nodes and have a chat! Has to be Better than FT8. So
we can have a real QSO. I am a RagChewer Hi Hi.? 73 Mike vk4sy vk3xz


Re: HF packet data rates

 

Hi,
My Call sign is VK3SY? Queensland? Australia 73 Mike VK4SY VK3XZ


Re: HF packet data rates

 

Hi Bob,
I would like to connect to Nodes and have a chat! Has to be Better than FT8. So
we can have a real QSO. I am a RagChewer Hi Hi.? 73 Mike vk4sy vk3xz


Re: HF packet data rates

 

Hi Bob,
I want to use my MFJ Packet unit and HF 300 Baude Packet. I have 2 MFJ packet units
and want to put on HF but don't have any idea how to do it. an Outline of steps required
would at least give me a CHANCE TO START usinf my MFJ Modems! 73 Mike vk4sy


Re: HF packet data rates

 

Hi Micheal, what are you going to use for a tnc (modem), are you using a hardware based tnc , or a sound card based tnc?
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what is your plan to run a node or just connect to nodes and people using rf?
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will you be doing vhf packet or HF packet, i am just running 300 baud on HF.
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there is lots of info on the internet related to packet radio, but i will help however i can….
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Bob/va3rjs


Re: HF packet data rates

 

Hi Bob,
I am very new to this but an Old Dog Ham since 1974. What exactly( is there a Guide?) to get this working with windows 10 and yaesu FTDX1200. Thanks for the Info, but do not know how to get started. I need a Big Push Please! 73 Mike vk4sy


Re: UZ7HO Question

 

Hi Chris,
Typically 105, 20m 14.105 or 40m 7.104 and 145.070 or 145.050 or 145.510 locally 2m VHF
not permanently on-air 24/7

Many thanks,
Louis


On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 at 20:26, Chris Lance WW2BSA via <Ww2bsa=[email protected]> wrote:

Louis,
What frequency(ies) is your node on?
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...and tnx for the info Carl....

Chris



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