Try changing the CD (Carrier Detect) to software, that should sort the blinking out.
cmd: CD software/software
73,
John K2ZA
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On Sep 7, 2023, at 12:09, Garry Cramins (AE5HL) <gpcramins@...> wrote:
? Dumb question here, I have running station on NET 105, but am curious as to the "Rcv" LED? on my KAM. It blinks frequently even with the lack of packet signals, so I assume it is just responding to noise. With the "Calibrate" command, I can set TX level, etc, but not for RX.
I've toyed with the gain and similar without success. Am I trying to solve a problem that does not exist? Any suggestions? Garry P. Cramins (AE5HL) (505) 340-9093
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Dumb question here, I have running station on NET 105, but am curious as to the "Rcv" LED? on my KAM. It blinks frequently even with the lack of packet signals, so I assume it is just responding to noise. With the "Calibrate" command, I can set TX level, etc, but not for RX.
I've toyed with the gain and similar without success. Am I trying to solve a problem that does not exist? Any suggestions? Garry P. Cramins (AE5HL) (505) 340-9093
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Re: 17 meters and 10 meters
Steve,
A little off topic but...
I saw your AX25 connect to WA3WLH-7 this morning on 14107 USB /
14110.4 LSB but assume you did not copy the response since it
retried out. I share an ax25 port up there with RMS gateway ports
using VARA and ARDOP so as not to QRM the gang on NET105. While I
usually get a few RMS connects daily as you might guess I don't
get many AX25 connects up there unless someone happens to hear the
beacon while tuning around and recognize the tones...
73 de Rich WA3WLH
On 9/7/23 10:13, Steve - K4RVA via
groups.io wrote:
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On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 06:51 AM, Alan Beck - VY2XU wrote:
Does anyone know the calling frequency on 17 meters
and 10 meters?
Hi Alan,
I heared you on 14105 LSB a few minutes ago and I tried to
connect, but I think the band faded away before I was able to make
the connection.
I've never seen any frequencies documented for 17m or 10m, but I
would like to give it a try. How about 18110 LSB and 28105 LSB?
Initially I thought 18105 would have made sense, but that would
put us right on top of the FT4 operators. :|
Let me know when is a good time to give you a call. I'm located in
Colorado Springs, CO DM78pv. MST or UTC-6.
Cheers,
Steve K4RVA
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Do it and I'll meet you there....
73
On 9/7/23 11:26, Garry Cramins (AE5HL)
wrote:
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While not the intended recipient, I'll second
AMTOR...
Matter?of fact, I'm even thinking of putting my
machine on an unused portion, maybe below 14.105, and setting
up an AMTOR BBS...
Garry (AE5HL)
On Thu, Sep 7, 2023, 09:21 Jim
< jim@...> wrote:
Jim, I
couldn't agree more.?? I love Olivia (took some explaining to
the
XYL but she understands now), Contesia, PSK....RTTY ( I
actually have 3
mechanical macines!) I love all that stuff....and yes, QRP CW
is so much
fun.?? BUT, there's one thing that Packet Radio can do that
none of the
others can do and that is Store and Forward.
You're right Jim, I can send you a packet message right now
while you
may be out of the shack ......then when you return, you'll see
that you
have "mail" and can read my message at your leisure and then
choose to
respond or not.
When you do respond, I too may be off doing something and I'll
see it
when I get back.
I actually used to use AMTOR in the "old days" and there was
an effort
underway at that time to create a MBOS mailbox setup so it
could do what
packet does.?? I even saw a similar thing for RTTY...it was a
piece of
firmware, a card that would fit into the back of a Comodore 64
and would
be a mail box.?? I never bought one...wish I had.
So, people LOVE the convenience of being able to send a piece
of mail,
error free and have it arrive at the destination mailbox to be
read when
the recipient gets to it.
Try that with all the other modes......
And....most important....NO INTERNET!!!
73 Jim W1JT
On 9/6/23 17:18, Jim - KI0BK via wrote:
> David,
> Couldn’t you say the same of CW or RTTY or PSK31, or a
dozen others modes.
> I agree, there are more robust modes now and better
suited for the quick QSOs many enjoy now, but what other mode
lets you connect and leave a msg to a friend that can be read
at their leisure? Then responded too when they choose?? I
think the sound card modes are great, cheap, robust, etc. but
the thing about packet is the network, that is available
24/7/365.? I too have no one within VHF range to talk too on
packet, that is one reason I’m building a node/bbs and looking
for other apps that will help build local interest and expand
the local network again.? HF packet can be slow and at times
frustrating when band conditions make connections hard, but
isn’t that one of the things that also makes HF fun?? Don’t
give up so easily, persistence is a virtue and does seem to
help with packet.? Talk to other local hams about packet, see
if you can find others to put up a station again.
> 73
> Jim KI0BK
>
>
>
>
>
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While not the intended recipient, I'll second AMTOR...
Matter?of fact, I'm even thinking of putting my machine on an unused portion, maybe below 14.105, and setting up an AMTOR BBS...
Garry (AE5HL)
On Thu, Sep 7, 2023, 09:21 Jim < jim@...> wrote: Jim, I couldn't agree more.?? I love Olivia (took some explaining to the
XYL but she understands now), Contesia, PSK....RTTY ( I actually have 3
mechanical macines!) I love all that stuff....and yes, QRP CW is so much
fun.?? BUT, there's one thing that Packet Radio can do that none of the
others can do and that is Store and Forward.
You're right Jim, I can send you a packet message right now while you
may be out of the shack ......then when you return, you'll see that you
have "mail" and can read my message at your leisure and then choose to
respond or not.
When you do respond, I too may be off doing something and I'll see it
when I get back.
I actually used to use AMTOR in the "old days" and there was an effort
underway at that time to create a MBOS mailbox setup so it could do what
packet does.?? I even saw a similar thing for RTTY...it was a piece of
firmware, a card that would fit into the back of a Comodore 64 and would
be a mail box.?? I never bought one...wish I had.
So, people LOVE the convenience of being able to send a piece of mail,
error free and have it arrive at the destination mailbox to be read when
the recipient gets to it.
Try that with all the other modes......
And....most important....NO INTERNET!!!
73 Jim W1JT
On 9/6/23 17:18, Jim - KI0BK via wrote:
> David,
> Couldn’t you say the same of CW or RTTY or PSK31, or a dozen others modes.
> I agree, there are more robust modes now and better suited for the quick QSOs many enjoy now, but what other mode lets you connect and leave a msg to a friend that can be read at their leisure? Then responded too when they choose?? I think the sound card modes are great, cheap, robust, etc. but the thing about packet is the network, that is available 24/7/365.? I too have no one within VHF range to talk too on packet, that is one reason I’m building a node/bbs and looking for other apps that will help build local interest and expand the local network again.? HF packet can be slow and at times frustrating when band conditions make connections hard, but isn’t that one of the things that also makes HF fun?? Don’t give up so easily, persistence is a virtue and does seem to help with packet.? Talk to other local hams about packet, see if you can find others to put up a station again.
> 73
> Jim KI0BK
>
>
>
>
>
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I remember that RTTY MSO.?? Always wished I had purchased
one....back in the 80's!
I'm running 3 mechanical machines.? 1 Model 15, 1 Model 28 and 1
Model 19.
Let's get RTTY going again too!!!??
On 9/6/23 19:46, Chris Lance WW2BSA
wrote:
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LOL!!! A CW BBS would be cool!
How about this Garry: After 10 years
of hunting, I acquired a copy of C64 RTTY MSO. I have the C64
computer, drive, monitor, AEA CP-1 and CP-100, cables and
radios. Just have to test it.
?
VHF/HF RTTY BBS at 100 WPM (75 baud).
But maybe I'll slow it down to 60 WPM (45.45 baud) just to piss
off the VARA fanatics! LOL!
?
Chris Lance
ww2bsa
?
?
Because we are lazy, and we have equipment that
works... And we've all seen what happens with "novelty"....
I'd run a BBS on morse code if I could get away with it, just
because and I don't care anymore...
Garry P. Cramins
(505) 340-9093
Sweet!? Thanks Jeff.? Let’s see what Billy
does with this info. ?
Tadd --- Sent from Planet X
Hi Tadd,
Yeah, the VARA port is one of my BPQ node's radio
ports, with BPQ networked to an (X)Net node
(Flexnet-compatible) on a Linux netbook.? (X)Net is
linked via VHF to the local Eastnet (they use Flexnet)
packet network here in upstate NY.? The VARA backbone
link is to N3MEL's FRNPA packet network in eastern PA
who is also linked to the DEPN packet network in
Delaware via I think UHF, or maybe they switched to a
VARA backbone link, I can't remember.? No internet
links involved, all RF which is what we're pushing
for.? The VARA link moves BBS mail between the NY and
PA/DE networks 24/7.? For that purpose, it works very
well, far beyond 300bd ax.25.? A disadvantage of VARA
is that it's a Windows program.? It will run in Linux
using WINE, which I had up and running, but the
particular Linux laptop I used for that must have
awful shielding because I couldn't get ALC down to
zero on HF no matter what audio settings I tried.? So
for now, it's running on an old Win7 laptop, which
amazingly has been running issue-free for over a year,
no reboots necessary.? VARA will run on Rapsberry's as
well, but I've never tried it.? Glenn N3MEL has also
added a couple more networks on the east coast using
his VARA link, including night-time to Wisconsin.
?
?
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Jim, I couldn't agree more.?? I love Olivia (took some explaining to the XYL but she understands now), Contesia, PSK....RTTY ( I actually have 3 mechanical macines!) I love all that stuff....and yes, QRP CW is so much fun.?? BUT, there's one thing that Packet Radio can do that none of the others can do and that is Store and Forward.
You're right Jim, I can send you a packet message right now while you may be out of the shack ......then when you return, you'll see that you have "mail" and can read my message at your leisure and then choose to respond or not.
When you do respond, I too may be off doing something and I'll see it when I get back.
I actually used to use AMTOR in the "old days" and there was an effort underway at that time to create a MBOS mailbox setup so it could do what packet does.?? I even saw a similar thing for RTTY...it was a piece of firmware, a card that would fit into the back of a Comodore 64 and would be a mail box.?? I never bought one...wish I had.
So, people LOVE the convenience of being able to send a piece of mail, error free and have it arrive at the destination mailbox to be read when the recipient gets to it.
Try that with all the other modes......
And....most important....NO INTERNET!!!
73 Jim W1JT
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On 9/6/23 17:18, Jim - KI0BK via groups.io wrote: David,
Couldn’t you say the same of CW or RTTY or PSK31, or a dozen others modes.
I agree, there are more robust modes now and better suited for the quick QSOs many enjoy now, but what other mode lets you connect and leave a msg to a friend that can be read at their leisure? Then responded too when they choose? I think the sound card modes are great, cheap, robust, etc. but the thing about packet is the network, that is available 24/7/365. I too have no one within VHF range to talk too on packet, that is one reason I’m building a node/bbs and looking for other apps that will help build local interest and expand the local network again. HF packet can be slow and at times frustrating when band conditions make connections hard, but isn’t that one of the things that also makes HF fun? Don’t give up so easily, persistence is a virtue and does seem to help with packet. Talk to other local hams about packet, see if you can find others to put up a station again.
73
Jim KI0BK
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My first AX25 HF packet node is up!
Greetings,
I've set up a BPQCHAT/BPQBBS node in DM14. We'll see how it goes. I set up the node to the best of my abilities to adhere to the net guidelines posted.
I will be writing up a guide on my blog for fellow mastodon radio users so don't be surprised to see some influx of activity. We're interested in seeing what the state of HF packet is ?and possibly setting up our own network just to see what the exercise is like but wanted to get our feet wet here first. Most of us are technically literate radio amateurs and some have prior packet networking experience.
Station here is an FT-897D @ 100W?w/ SCU-17 & RPi4b > LDG 600 PRO II > 1:1 Choke > Open wire line fed nonresonant dipole @ 7.5m AGL
The station is currently running Raspberry Pi OS, linpbq, direwolf, hamlib, and QtTermTCP all compiled from the latest source I could find.
I've decoded some DX EU packets already and am regularly hearing the East Coast US so RX should be good to go. Tested TX with tones to set the level.
Let me know if I'm doing anything wrong, I'm here to soak up the technical tidbits.
Best,
Chris, N6CTA
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Re: 17 meters and 10 meters
On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 06:51 AM, Alan Beck - VY2XU wrote:
Does anyone know the calling frequency on 17 meters and 10 meters?
Hi Alan, I heared you on 14105 LSB a few minutes ago and I tried to connect, but I think the band faded away before I was able to make the connection. I've never seen any frequencies documented for 17m or 10m, but I would like to give it a try. How about 18110 LSB and 28105 LSB? Initially I thought 18105 would have made sense, but that would put us right on top of the FT4 operators. :| Let me know when is a good time to give you a call. I'm located in Colorado Springs, CO DM78pv. MST or UTC-6. Cheers, Steve K4RVA
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Re: why do people persist with AX.25 when more robust modes now exist?
Hi David,
Do you have any noise interfering with the incoming packets?? For a while here, the "smart" meter that the electric company installed at the house would periodically generate so much hash, it made packet decoding on HF right up through UHF completely undecodable.? It doesn't take much to interfere with decoding the AFSK modes, a little noise wrecks it.? Lately I was having trouble decoding packets on a UHF backbone link from a local node, making it unusable, but I was able to trace it to a noisy external VGA-HDMI converter we were using with one of the computers.? I got rid of the converter and all is well again. ? A signal can sound good and be strong, but if there's any other audible pops, scratches, or whatever mixed in, it will cause problems.
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On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 09:21 PM, David, K7DMJ wrote:
I’m in UT, where the nearest packet guys are in CO or CA. Whether I’m using 20m or 40m, it doesn't matter. No packets decoded.
David, I'm also in Utah; down near Moab.? It really sounds like there is something wrong with your setup.? During the day, I usually have 15 or more stations in my heard list on 20m for the past hour.? One station I can almost always contact is KB9PVH in Wisconsin.? 300b AX.25 works even if it isn't the most robust mode out there. Joshua
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Garry AE5HL you are in Albuquerque, right next to a big cluster of packet stations in TX and across the South, plus the guys to the west in the San Diego area. I’m in UT, where the nearest packet guys are in CO or CA. Whether I’m using 20m or 40m, it doesn't matter. No packets decoded. ? I’m using Soundmodem, which has worked just fine for me on 30m APRS. I’ve tried various wire antennas at my QTH – EFHW, dipoles in inverted-V, etc. And I’ve tried going up into the Wasatch Mountains to get away from RFI. Doesn’t make much difference. I’ve decoded a few packets, which shows that my setup is kind-of working. But it’s very rare for me to decode anything and I’ve never been able to connect to a node, except the one in Clearfield UT I mentioned that has a Vara port. ? My setup is typically a Xiegu G90 (20w) transceiver, Digirig interface, Microsoft Surface Go running Soundmodem and EasyTerm, and a wire antenna of some kind (40m EFHW or 20/40m linked dipole, supported by a 26 ft telescoping fiberglass pole). I’ll accept that my transmitter is on the weak side, but the main issue is lack of reception. ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Garry Cramins (AE5HL) Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2023 7:02 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [network105] why do people persist with AX.25 when more robust modes now exist? ? I suspect this is more of an antenna problem, or possibly with your TNC (software?). I was up and running in short order with an end fed and a Kam XL... ? I have no choice but to give up on AX.25 since I cannot decode ANY packets in my location on most days, based on several attempts. I’m not decoding any beacons. They should be coming out of most stations about every 10 minutes or so, right? ? ? ? The new modes up and coming but ax.25 is thriving very ans growing slowly.? ? I would it give up on it is a great mode.? I am working on many plans for my bbs.?
LOL!!! A CW BBS would be cool! How about this Garry: After 10 years of hunting, I acquired a copy of C64 RTTY MSO. I have the C64 computer, drive, monitor, AEA CP-1 and CP-100, cables and radios. Just have to test it. VHF/HF RTTY BBS at 100 WPM (75 baud). But maybe I'll slow it down to 60 WPM (45.45 baud) just to piss off the VARA fanatics! LOL! On 09/06/2023 7:33 PM EDT Garry Cramins (AE5HL) <gpcramins@...> wrote: Because we are lazy, and we have equipment that works... And we've all seen what happens with "novelty".... I'd run a BBS on morse code if I could get away with it, just because and I don't care anymore... ? Sweet!? Thanks Jeff.? Let’s see what Billy does with this info. ? Tadd --- Sent from Planet X Hi Tadd,
Yeah, the VARA port is one of my BPQ node's radio ports, with BPQ networked to an (X)Net node (Flexnet-compatible) on a Linux netbook.? (X)Net is linked via VHF to the local Eastnet (they use Flexnet) packet network here in upstate NY.? The VARA backbone link is to N3MEL's FRNPA packet network in eastern PA who is also linked to the DEPN packet network in Delaware via I think UHF, or maybe they switched to a VARA backbone link, I can't remember.? No internet links involved, all RF which is what we're pushing for.? The VARA link moves BBS mail between the NY and PA/DE networks 24/7.? For that purpose, it works very well, far beyond 300bd ax.25.? A disadvantage of VARA is that it's a Windows program.? It will run in Linux using WINE, which I had up and running, but the particular Linux laptop I used for that must have awful shielding because I couldn't get ALC down to zero on HF no matter what audio settings I tried.? So for now, it's running on an old Win7 laptop, which amazingly has been running issue-free for over a year, no reboots necessary.? VARA will run on Rapsberry's as well, but I've never tried it.? Glenn N3MEL has also added a couple more networks on the east coast using his VARA link, including night-time to Wisconsin.
? ?
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Well put Chris retro computer collector here and yes I love packet even have the full set up for an Acorn BBC master to do it and rtty on a Sinclair zx spectrum 48k but my packet goto is a windows 3:1 running on a Vegan 486/SX25 using winpac.
Bbs is something that is a direction vara needs to develop into with a hope of removing those who think they are DXers on FT8 ....lol?
De John M0JFE??
"Ride the waves and make new friends
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Ax. 25 is thriving I am going to see and do the best I can to help make it grow agsin.?
73 N3LBP?
Get
Hmmm....Do you have a high noise level?
Refresh our memories: what is your setup? Hardware? Software? Antenna?
What is the dial frequency you're setting your radio to?
?
I know you said you're in Utah and not much out there, but have you made
any connections on UHF/VHF with or without your existing equipment?
?
Yes, David. The beacons are plentiful. You can see all the beacons on Facebook Group Network105 where James and others post alot. Click
?
Chris
ww2bsa
?
On 09/06/2023 8:35 PM EDT David, K7DMJ <davdj0nsn@...> wrote:
?
?
I have no choice but to give up on AX.25 since I cannot decode ANY packets in my location on most days, based on several attempts. I’m not decoding any beacons. They should be coming out of most stations about every 10 minutes or so,
right?
?
?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Amateur radio operator CHUCK
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2023 5:49 PM
To: [email protected]; Garry Cramins (AE5HL) <gpcramins@...>
Subject: Re: [network105] why do people persist with AX.25 when more robust modes now exist?
?
The new modes up and coming but ax.25 is thriving very ans growing slowly.? ? I would it give up on it is a great mode.? I am working on many plans for my bbs.?
LOL!!! A CW BBS would be cool!
How about this Garry: After 10 years of hunting, I acquired a copy of C64 RTTY MSO. I have the C64 computer, drive, monitor, AEA CP-1 and CP-100, cables and radios. Just have to test it.
VHF/HF RTTY BBS at 100 WPM (75 baud). But maybe I'll slow it down to 60 WPM (45.45 baud) just to piss off the VARA fanatics! LOL!
On 09/06/2023 7:33 PM EDT Garry Cramins (AE5HL) <gpcramins@...> wrote:
Because we are lazy, and we have equipment that works... And we've all seen what happens with "novelty".... I'd run a BBS on morse code if I could get away with it, just because and I don't care anymore...
?
Sweet!? Thanks Jeff.? Let’s see what Billy does with this info. ?
Tadd --- Sent from Planet X
Hi Tadd,
Yeah, the VARA port is one of my BPQ node's radio ports, with BPQ networked to an (X)Net node (Flexnet-compatible) on a Linux netbook.? (X)Net is linked via VHF to the local Eastnet (they use Flexnet) packet network here in upstate NY.? The VARA backbone link
is to N3MEL's FRNPA packet network in eastern PA who is also linked to the DEPN packet network in Delaware via I think UHF, or maybe they switched to a VARA backbone link, I can't remember.? No internet links involved, all RF which is what we're pushing for.?
The VARA link moves BBS mail between the NY and PA/DE networks 24/7.? For that purpose, it works very well, far beyond 300bd ax.25.? A disadvantage of VARA is that it's a Windows program.? It will run in Linux using WINE, which I had up and running, but the
particular Linux laptop I used for that must have awful shielding because I couldn't get ALC down to zero on HF no matter what audio settings I tried.? So for now, it's running on an old Win7 laptop, which amazingly has been running issue-free for over a year,
no reboots necessary.? VARA will run on Rapsberry's as well, but I've never tried it.? Glenn N3MEL has also added a couple more networks on the east coast using his VARA link, including night-time to Wisconsin.
?
?
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Hi David,
In case this helps, these are the things that commonly trip me up and frustrate me: - Wrong sound card and/or mic device selected - Wrong baud rate, I forgot to switch between 300 and 1200 when changing from HF to VHF or vice versa - Wrong sideband on HF, where packet is LSB, regardless of band - Filter on the radio is wrong, noise filtering is enabled or dynamic notch filter left on (I use it often to tune out the tune-ups on SSB voice) - Rear output on the radio isn't enabled for digital mode or I hit LSB and not LSB-D for digital work. Sometimes when I flash channels to the radio that config gets poached on the FT-991a. - Bandwidth not set correctly? - I bumped the dial or RIT knob, forgot to lock the dial - I was experimenting with another TNC or radio and forgot to change the COM port or IP back - Right station, wrong frequency? - Center frequency got changed on the SoundModem software?
I've done it all, in my few years with a radio. I'm a professional newb, an amateur. LOL
I hope you find this helpful, Brad Brown, KC1JMH
On Wed, Sep 6, 2023, 9:01 PM Garry Cramins (AE5HL) < gpcramins@...> wrote: I suspect this is more of an antenna problem, or possibly with your TNC (software?). I was up and running in short order with an end fed and a Kam XL...
What is your setup?
Garry (AE5HL)
I have no choice but to give up on AX.25 since I cannot decode ANY packets in my location on most days, based on several attempts. I’m not decoding any beacons. They should be coming out of most stations about every 10 minutes or so, right? ? ? ? The new modes up and coming but ax.25 is thriving very ans growing slowly.? ? I would it give up on it is a great mode.? I am working on many plans for my bbs.?
LOL!!! A CW BBS would be cool! How about this Garry: After 10 years of hunting, I acquired a copy of C64 RTTY MSO. I have the C64 computer, drive, monitor, AEA CP-1 and CP-100, cables and radios. Just have to test it. VHF/HF RTTY BBS at 100 WPM (75 baud). But maybe I'll slow it down to 60 WPM (45.45 baud) just to piss off the VARA fanatics! LOL! On 09/06/2023 7:33 PM EDT Garry Cramins (AE5HL) <gpcramins@...> wrote: Because we are lazy, and we have equipment that works... And we've all seen what happens with "novelty".... I'd run a BBS on morse code if I could get away with it, just because and I don't care anymore... ? Sweet!? Thanks Jeff.? Let’s see what Billy does with this info. ? Tadd --- Sent from Planet X Hi Tadd,
Yeah, the VARA port is one of my BPQ node's radio ports, with BPQ networked to an (X)Net node (Flexnet-compatible) on a Linux netbook.? (X)Net is linked via VHF to the local Eastnet (they use Flexnet) packet network here in upstate NY.? The VARA backbone link is to N3MEL's FRNPA packet network in eastern PA who is also linked to the DEPN packet network in Delaware via I think UHF, or maybe they switched to a VARA backbone link, I can't remember.? No internet links involved, all RF which is what we're pushing for.? The VARA link moves BBS mail between the NY and PA/DE networks 24/7.? For that purpose, it works very well, far beyond 300bd ax.25.? A disadvantage of VARA is that it's a Windows program.? It will run in Linux using WINE, which I had up and running, but the particular Linux laptop I used for that must have awful shielding because I couldn't get ALC down to zero on HF no matter what audio settings I tried.? So for now, it's running on an old Win7 laptop, which amazingly has been running issue-free for over a year, no reboots necessary.? VARA will run on Rapsberry's as well, but I've never tried it.? Glenn N3MEL has also added a couple more networks on the east coast using his VARA link, including night-time to Wisconsin.
? ?
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Re: why do people persist with AX.25 when more robust modes now exist?
I suspect this is more of an antenna problem, or possibly with your TNC (software?). I was up and running in short order with an end fed and a Kam XL...
What is your setup?
Garry (AE5HL)
I have no choice but to give up on AX.25 since I cannot decode ANY packets in my location on most days, based on several attempts. I’m not decoding any beacons. They should be coming out of most stations about every 10 minutes or so, right? ? ? ? The new modes up and coming but ax.25 is thriving very ans growing slowly.? ? I would it give up on it is a great mode.? I am working on many plans for my bbs.?
LOL!!! A CW BBS would be cool! How about this Garry: After 10 years of hunting, I acquired a copy of C64 RTTY MSO. I have the C64 computer, drive, monitor, AEA CP-1 and CP-100, cables and radios. Just have to test it. VHF/HF RTTY BBS at 100 WPM (75 baud). But maybe I'll slow it down to 60 WPM (45.45 baud) just to piss off the VARA fanatics! LOL! On 09/06/2023 7:33 PM EDT Garry Cramins (AE5HL) <gpcramins@...> wrote: Because we are lazy, and we have equipment that works... And we've all seen what happens with "novelty".... I'd run a BBS on morse code if I could get away with it, just because and I don't care anymore... ? Sweet!? Thanks Jeff.? Let’s see what Billy does with this info. ? Tadd --- Sent from Planet X Hi Tadd,
Yeah, the VARA port is one of my BPQ node's radio ports, with BPQ networked to an (X)Net node (Flexnet-compatible) on a Linux netbook.? (X)Net is linked via VHF to the local Eastnet (they use Flexnet) packet network here in upstate NY.? The VARA backbone link is to N3MEL's FRNPA packet network in eastern PA who is also linked to the DEPN packet network in Delaware via I think UHF, or maybe they switched to a VARA backbone link, I can't remember.? No internet links involved, all RF which is what we're pushing for.? The VARA link moves BBS mail between the NY and PA/DE networks 24/7.? For that purpose, it works very well, far beyond 300bd ax.25.? A disadvantage of VARA is that it's a Windows program.? It will run in Linux using WINE, which I had up and running, but the particular Linux laptop I used for that must have awful shielding because I couldn't get ALC down to zero on HF no matter what audio settings I tried.? So for now, it's running on an old Win7 laptop, which amazingly has been running issue-free for over a year, no reboots necessary.? VARA will run on Rapsberry's as well, but I've never tried it.? Glenn N3MEL has also added a couple more networks on the east coast using his VARA link, including night-time to Wisconsin.
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Re: why do people persist with AX.25 when more robust modes now exist?
Ax. 25 is thriving I am going to see and do the best I can to help make it grow agsin.?
73 N3LBP?
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Hmmm....Do you have a high noise level?
Refresh our memories: what is your setup? Hardware? Software? Antenna?
What is the dial frequency you're setting your radio to?
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I know you said you're in Utah and not much out there, but have you made
any connections on UHF/VHF with or without your existing equipment?
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Yes, David. The beacons are plentiful. You can see all the beacons on Facebook Group Network105 where James and others post alot. Click
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Chris
ww2bsa
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On 09/06/2023 8:35 PM EDT David, K7DMJ <davdj0nsn@...> wrote:
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I have no choice but to give up on AX.25 since I cannot decode ANY packets in my location on most days, based on several attempts. I’m not decoding any beacons. They should be coming out of most stations about every 10 minutes or so,
right?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Amateur radio operator CHUCK
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2023 5:49 PM
To: [email protected]; Garry Cramins (AE5HL) <gpcramins@...>
Subject: Re: [network105] why do people persist with AX.25 when more robust modes now exist?
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The new modes up and coming but ax.25 is thriving very ans growing slowly.? ? I would it give up on it is a great mode.? I am working on many plans for my bbs.?
LOL!!! A CW BBS would be cool!
How about this Garry: After 10 years of hunting, I acquired a copy of C64 RTTY MSO. I have the C64 computer, drive, monitor, AEA CP-1 and CP-100, cables and radios. Just have to test it.
VHF/HF RTTY BBS at 100 WPM (75 baud). But maybe I'll slow it down to 60 WPM (45.45 baud) just to piss off the VARA fanatics! LOL!
On 09/06/2023 7:33 PM EDT Garry Cramins (AE5HL) <gpcramins@...> wrote:
Because we are lazy, and we have equipment that works... And we've all seen what happens with "novelty".... I'd run a BBS on morse code if I could get away with it, just because and I don't care anymore...
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Sweet!? Thanks Jeff.? Let’s see what Billy does with this info. ?
Tadd --- Sent from Planet X
Hi Tadd,
Yeah, the VARA port is one of my BPQ node's radio ports, with BPQ networked to an (X)Net node (Flexnet-compatible) on a Linux netbook.? (X)Net is linked via VHF to the local Eastnet (they use Flexnet) packet network here in upstate NY.? The VARA backbone link
is to N3MEL's FRNPA packet network in eastern PA who is also linked to the DEPN packet network in Delaware via I think UHF, or maybe they switched to a VARA backbone link, I can't remember.? No internet links involved, all RF which is what we're pushing for.?
The VARA link moves BBS mail between the NY and PA/DE networks 24/7.? For that purpose, it works very well, far beyond 300bd ax.25.? A disadvantage of VARA is that it's a Windows program.? It will run in Linux using WINE, which I had up and running, but the
particular Linux laptop I used for that must have awful shielding because I couldn't get ALC down to zero on HF no matter what audio settings I tried.? So for now, it's running on an old Win7 laptop, which amazingly has been running issue-free for over a year,
no reboots necessary.? VARA will run on Rapsberry's as well, but I've never tried it.? Glenn N3MEL has also added a couple more networks on the east coast using his VARA link, including night-time to Wisconsin.
?
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Re: why do people persist with AX.25 when more robust modes now exist?
Hmmm....Do you have a high noise level?
Refresh our memories: what is your setup? Hardware? Software? Antenna?
What is the dial frequency you're setting your radio to?
?
I know you said you're in Utah and not much out there, but have you made any connections on UHF/VHF with or without your existing equipment?
?
Yes, David. The beacons are plentiful. You can see all the beacons on Facebook Group Network105 where James and others post alot. Click
?
Chris
ww2bsa
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On 09/06/2023 8:35 PM EDT David, K7DMJ <davdj0nsn@...> wrote:
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I have no choice but to give up on AX.25 since I cannot decode ANY packets in my location on most days, based on several attempts. I’m not decoding any beacons. They should be coming out of most stations about every 10 minutes or so, right?
?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Amateur radio operator CHUCK
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2023 5:49 PM
To: [email protected]; Garry Cramins (AE5HL) <gpcramins@...>
Subject: Re: [network105] why do people persist with AX.25 when more robust modes now exist?
?
The new modes up and coming but ax.25 is thriving very ans growing slowly.? ? I would it give up on it is a great mode.? I am working on many plans for my bbs.?
LOL!!! A CW BBS would be cool!
How about this Garry: After 10 years of hunting, I acquired a copy of C64 RTTY MSO. I have the C64 computer, drive, monitor, AEA CP-1 and CP-100, cables and radios. Just have to test it.
VHF/HF RTTY BBS at 100 WPM (75 baud). But maybe I'll slow it down to 60 WPM (45.45 baud) just to piss off the VARA fanatics! LOL!
On 09/06/2023 7:33 PM EDT Garry Cramins (AE5HL) <gpcramins@...> wrote:
Because we are lazy, and we have equipment that works... And we've all seen what happens with "novelty".... I'd run a BBS on morse code if I could get away with it, just because and I don't care anymore...
?
Sweet!? Thanks Jeff.? Let’s see what Billy does with this info. ?
Tadd --- Sent from Planet X
Hi Tadd,
Yeah, the VARA port is one of my BPQ node's radio ports, with BPQ networked to an (X)Net node (Flexnet-compatible) on a Linux netbook.? (X)Net is linked via VHF to the local Eastnet (they use Flexnet) packet network here in upstate NY.? The VARA backbone link is to N3MEL's FRNPA packet network in eastern PA who is also linked to the DEPN packet network in Delaware via I think UHF, or maybe they switched to a VARA backbone link, I can't remember.? No internet links involved, all RF which is what we're pushing for.? The VARA link moves BBS mail between the NY and PA/DE networks 24/7.? For that purpose, it works very well, far beyond 300bd ax.25.? A disadvantage of VARA is that it's a Windows program.? It will run in Linux using WINE, which I had up and running, but the particular Linux laptop I used for that must have awful shielding because I couldn't get ALC down to zero on HF no matter what audio settings I tried.? So for now, it's running on an old Win7 laptop, which amazingly has been running issue-free for over a year, no reboots necessary.? VARA will run on Rapsberry's as well, but I've never tried it.? Glenn N3MEL has also added a couple more networks on the east coast using his VARA link, including night-time to Wisconsin.
?
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Re: why do people persist with AX.25 when more robust modes now exist?
I have no choice but to give up on AX.25 since I cannot decode ANY packets in my location on most days, based on several attempts. I’m not decoding any beacons. They should be coming out of most stations about every 10 minutes or so, right? ? ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Amateur radio operator CHUCK Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2023 5:49 PM To: [email protected]; Garry Cramins (AE5HL) <gpcramins@...> Subject: Re: [network105] why do people persist with AX.25 when more robust modes now exist? ? The new modes up and coming but ax.25 is thriving very ans growing slowly.? ? I would it give up on it is a great mode.? I am working on many plans for my bbs.?
LOL!!! A CW BBS would be cool! How about this Garry: After 10 years of hunting, I acquired a copy of C64 RTTY MSO. I have the C64 computer, drive, monitor, AEA CP-1 and CP-100, cables and radios. Just have to test it. VHF/HF RTTY BBS at 100 WPM (75 baud). But maybe I'll slow it down to 60 WPM (45.45 baud) just to piss off the VARA fanatics! LOL! On 09/06/2023 7:33 PM EDT Garry Cramins (AE5HL) <gpcramins@...> wrote: Because we are lazy, and we have equipment that works... And we've all seen what happens with "novelty".... I'd run a BBS on morse code if I could get away with it, just because and I don't care anymore... ? Sweet!? Thanks Jeff.? Let’s see what Billy does with this info. ? Tadd --- Sent from Planet X Hi Tadd,
Yeah, the VARA port is one of my BPQ node's radio ports, with BPQ networked to an (X)Net node (Flexnet-compatible) on a Linux netbook.? (X)Net is linked via VHF to the local Eastnet (they use Flexnet) packet network here in upstate NY.? The VARA backbone link is to N3MEL's FRNPA packet network in eastern PA who is also linked to the DEPN packet network in Delaware via I think UHF, or maybe they switched to a VARA backbone link, I can't remember.? No internet links involved, all RF which is what we're pushing for.? The VARA link moves BBS mail between the NY and PA/DE networks 24/7.? For that purpose, it works very well, far beyond 300bd ax.25.? A disadvantage of VARA is that it's a Windows program.? It will run in Linux using WINE, which I had up and running, but the particular Linux laptop I used for that must have awful shielding because I couldn't get ALC down to zero on HF no matter what audio settings I tried.? So for now, it's running on an old Win7 laptop, which amazingly has been running issue-free for over a year, no reboots necessary.? VARA will run on Rapsberry's as well, but I've never tried it.? Glenn N3MEL has also added a couple more networks on the east coast using his VARA link, including night-time to Wisconsin.
? ?
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Re: why do people persist with AX.25 when more robust modes now exist?
The new modes up and coming but ax.25 is thriving very ans growing slowly.? ? I would it give up on it is a great mode.? I am working on many plans for my bbs.?
73 N3LBP?
Get
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
LOL!!! A CW BBS would be cool!
How about this Garry: After 10 years of hunting, I acquired a copy of C64 RTTY MSO. I have the C64 computer, drive, monitor, AEA CP-1 and CP-100, cables and radios. Just have to test it.
?
VHF/HF RTTY BBS at 100 WPM (75 baud). But maybe I'll slow it down to 60 WPM (45.45 baud) just to piss off the VARA fanatics! LOL!
?
Chris Lance
ww2bsa
On 09/06/2023 7:33 PM EDT Garry Cramins (AE5HL) <gpcramins@...> wrote:
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Because we are lazy, and we have equipment that works... And we've all seen what happens with "novelty".... I'd run a BBS on morse code if I could get away with it, just because and I don't care anymore...
Garry P. Cramins
(505) 340-9093
Sweet!? Thanks Jeff.? Let’s see what Billy does with this info. ?
Tadd --- Sent from Planet X
Hi Tadd,
Yeah, the VARA port is one of my BPQ node's radio ports, with BPQ networked to an (X)Net node (Flexnet-compatible) on a Linux netbook.? (X)Net is linked via VHF to the local Eastnet (they use Flexnet) packet network here in upstate NY.? The VARA backbone link
is to N3MEL's FRNPA packet network in eastern PA who is also linked to the DEPN packet network in Delaware via I think UHF, or maybe they switched to a VARA backbone link, I can't remember.? No internet links involved, all RF which is what we're pushing for.?
The VARA link moves BBS mail between the NY and PA/DE networks 24/7.? For that purpose, it works very well, far beyond 300bd ax.25.? A disadvantage of VARA is that it's a Windows program.? It will run in Linux using WINE, which I had up and running, but the
particular Linux laptop I used for that must have awful shielding because I couldn't get ALC down to zero on HF no matter what audio settings I tried.? So for now, it's running on an old Win7 laptop, which amazingly has been running issue-free for over a year,
no reboots necessary.? VARA will run on Rapsberry's as well, but I've never tried it.? Glenn N3MEL has also added a couple more networks on the east coast using his VARA link, including night-time to Wisconsin.
?
?
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Re: why do people persist with AX.25 when more robust modes now exist?
LOL!!! A CW BBS would be cool!
How about this Garry: After 10 years of hunting, I acquired a copy of C64 RTTY MSO. I have the C64 computer, drive, monitor, AEA CP-1 and CP-100, cables and radios. Just have to test it.
?
VHF/HF RTTY BBS at 100 WPM (75 baud). But maybe I'll slow it down to 60 WPM (45.45 baud) just to piss off the VARA fanatics! LOL!
?
Chris Lance
ww2bsa
On 09/06/2023 7:33 PM EDT Garry Cramins (AE5HL) <gpcramins@...> wrote:
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Because we are lazy, and we have equipment that works... And we've all seen what happens with "novelty".... I'd run a BBS on morse code if I could get away with it, just because and I don't care anymore...
Garry P. Cramins
(505) 340-9093
Sweet!? Thanks Jeff.? Let’s see what Billy does with this info. ?
Tadd --- Sent from Planet X
Hi Tadd,
Yeah, the VARA port is one of my BPQ node's radio ports, with BPQ networked to an (X)Net node (Flexnet-compatible) on a Linux netbook.? (X)Net is linked via VHF to the local Eastnet (they use Flexnet) packet network here in upstate NY.? The VARA backbone link is to N3MEL's FRNPA packet network in eastern PA who is also linked to the DEPN packet network in Delaware via I think UHF, or maybe they switched to a VARA backbone link, I can't remember.? No internet links involved, all RF which is what we're pushing for.? The VARA link moves BBS mail between the NY and PA/DE networks 24/7.? For that purpose, it works very well, far beyond 300bd ax.25.? A disadvantage of VARA is that it's a Windows program.? It will run in Linux using WINE, which I had up and running, but the particular Linux laptop I used for that must have awful shielding because I couldn't get ALC down to zero on HF no matter what audio settings I tried.? So for now, it's running on an old Win7 laptop, which amazingly has been running issue-free for over a year, no reboots necessary.? VARA will run on Rapsberry's as well, but I've never tried it.? Glenn N3MEL has also added a couple more networks on the east coast using his VARA link, including night-time to Wisconsin.
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