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Re: Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
AArnaud, let's continue this off-forum since it no longer involves a NanoVNA. My email address is at the end of this page: https://k6sti.neocities.org/splot Brian
By Brian Beezley · #40034 ·
Re: Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
The instructions are not the clearest, I've included them in case although that may be off topic. L2 gets aligned at 98.2MHz @ 22.5kHz modulation but at an unknown level, I suppose you're right Brian
By AArnaud · #40033 ·
Re: Measurement correction for Zc Coax caracteristic Impedance
Hi, Ed, Maybe off the rails except that many folks here make measurements of transmission lines and maybe some of them will venture into low enough frequencies so that the high frequency
By Maynard Wright, P. E., W6PAP · #40032 ·
Re: Measurement correction for Zc Coax caracteristic Impedance
? ?nanoVNAers: I fear this most interesting discussion is heading off the nanoVNA rails. Maynard’s offerings are extensions of Oliver Heaviside’s evolution of the Telegrapher’s Equation,
By AG6CX · #40031 ·
Re: Measurement correction for Zc Coax caracteristic Impedance
One reason for a varying inductance in a line is that the total inductance per unit length is due to the combination of the internal and external inductance of the involved conductors. At low
By Maynard Wright, P. E., W6PAP · #40030 ·
Re: Measurement correction for Zc Coax caracteristic Impedance
Yes: I've worked mostly with paired, balanced lines (telephone cable pairs) but the principle is the same. AIEE Transaction 59-778, "Transmission Characteristics of PIC Cable," General Cable Corp.,
By Maynard Wright, P. E., W6PAP · #40029 ·
Re: Measurement correction for Zc Coax caracteristic Impedance
I venture L is constant. L is about the magnetic fields, which in turn is about current distribution, and the interaction of the magnetic fields in one part of a circuit (wire, component) with
By Jim Lux · #40028 ·
Re: Measurement correction for Zc Coax caracteristic Impedance
Hi, Jim, L is approximately constant at sufficiently high frequencies, but over the range of frequencies represented by the figure of interest here, L varies considerably for most lines. At
By Maynard Wright, P. E., W6PAP · #40027 ·
Re: Measurement correction for Zc Coax caracteristic Impedance
As someone who does both measuring and modeling.. Modeling is what gives you insight into things like sensitivity and variability. Measuring, to some extent, confirms what you modeled, or, that
By Jim Lux · #40026 ·
Re: Measurement correction for Zc Coax caracteristic Impedance
Hi Maynard Electrical modelisation is appreciated as a first approche of computing in the history, after what we procede with computers simulation last twenty years, in present time there is no
By Team-SIM SIM-Mode · #40025 ·
Re: Measurement correction for Zc Coax caracteristic Impedance
I would say that L remains constant (it's mostly determined by the physical construction, and the length), as long as it's not one of those funky delay line coaxes where the center is a spiral wrapped
By Jim Lux · #40024 ·
Re: Measurement correction for Zc Coax caracteristic Impedance
If you need to calculate the characteristic impedance over a range of frequencies that overlaps the curved segment of the figure and, if you can assume that G=0 for all frequencies of interest, a
By Maynard Wright, P. E., W6PAP · #40023 ·
Re: Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
The only adjustment the antenna will affect is L2. Here's an alternative to measuring and averaging the impedance of several antennas: Put a short whip on your signal generator and radiate a signal
By Brian Beezley · #40022 ·
Re: Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
I've forgot to add AM is sadly out of the picture. There are no audio AM broadcasting left in France, we still receive BBC very well but not for long. So this is 100% an FM matter. Most use the AM amp
By AArnaud · #40021 ·
Re: Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
I assume that you will be aligning this antenna in the broadcast band. So be careful about strong signals from nearby stations. 73, Maynard W6PAP
By Maynard Wright, P. E., W6PAP · #40020 ·
Re: Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
That antenna looks like a 100k reactance capacitor at 1 MHz. (about 1.5 pF) The coax probably is something like 50 pF, so even without the radio in the mix, you're looking at a 1:30 voltage divider.
By Jim Lux · #40019 ·
Re: Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
It will let you align the front-end more accurately. Check the radio alignment instructions. If there are no adjustments for the front-end, then it doesn't matter. Just connect the generator directly
By Brian Beezley · #40018 ·
Re: Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
Thanks for answering my post guys. Some additional information: here's a photograph of the whole antenna network. The antenna is about 43cm in length from the central stud of the base to the tip of
By AArnaud · #40017 ·
Re: Measurement correction for Zc Coax caracteristic Impedance
True! The three expressions in the figure represent the exact formula, a low frequency approximation, and a high frequency approximation. On the logarithmic scale of the figure, the low frequency
By Maynard Wright, P. E., W6PAP · #40016 ·
Re: Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
It's best to measure the antenna with the VNA as the antenna will be used. Mounted on the car, outside, doors closed, away from large metal structures, etc.
By Ed AB1XQ · #40015 ·