Dabbling in new steels
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The cutoff blade holder for my lathe came with a missing clamp, I would normally grab a piece of drill rod to make something like that but that was on the other side of the ocean. Here I have to learn all the metals over again as they're similar but different. So, I ordered a piece of 20mm diameter ST20 to make this out of. A simple project, not critical, but will sure make the lathe more useful. I think ST20 is like a typical cold rolled steel that I'd get in the USA, but I'm not sure. Well, as long as it isn't something hard to machine like stainless it should work for this project. I have a place within walking distance that sells steel, called Metal Base. There's also a few more within 5 or so km. But it's all hot rolled. Good for some projects, but I wouldn't want to make a tool clamp out of it. There's a couple of online shops here (Ozon and Wildberries) that are something like Amazon. They carry a wide range of stuff and deliver to pickup points, one of which is across the parking lot from where we buy groceries. So, that's where I'll be getting small quantities of things like this. For larger quantities, I would have to buy from the regional capitol which is 50 km away. Either drive there or pay high delivery costs. I think I'll stick with Ozon for now. There's also a few scrap yards around here, I need to visit them more. Maybe I'll find some good stuff for the projects bin.
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Message subject change
I changed the subject line so it's not so long, more in line with other groups. Hopefully this makes it easier to find things. If there's any issue with this, we can put it back as it was.
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Mini lathe 7 x12 14 8 shop drill press mill wood working sextant clocks gear milling equipment engine tractor rebuilding repair Milling on a Mini Lathe
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Clamping an angle plate or stop in place. Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. SEMPER GUMBY! Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome. Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first. On Friday, February 14, 2025 at 10:49:50 PM CST, davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote: Any know how this tee slot use for ? It about Suze if a #6 screw Dave
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Mini lathe 7 x12 14 8 shop drill press mill wood working sextant clocks gear milling equipment engine tractor rebuilding repair Milling on a Mini Lathe
That may be a standard steel shape that they just buy off the shelf. Like extrusion profiles, only machined. On 15-Feb-25 7:49, davesmith1800 wrote:
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GPS vs SEXTANT Navigation
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When the GPS goes because of sun spots or a country does knock gps. The NAVY is back the old way the sextant. NAVY is back to teaching using the Sextant. This looks like a navigation system for today's Aircraft Carry. Better something we can build on a mini lathe and shop Dave
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Projects for Mini Lathes
Please post sites on projects idea's This just found on small lathes projects http://www.deansphotographica.com/machining/projects/projects.html
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File /5)Charts_&_Tables/8 Hardness Tester.pdf uploaded
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The following items have been added to the Files area of the [email protected] group. /5)Charts_&_Tables/8 Hardness Tester.pdf By: davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> Description: No mark hardness tester Also fun project I have had one since the 1970¡¯s
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Charts and tables
/g/minilathe/files/5%29Charts_&_Tables For some reason #8 did not downloading to my phone later today turn a real computer and get done. It is on hardness testing I like leaves no marks on finished parts. The biggest cost in the plexiglass tube. Today I use a ?" diameter ball bearing so if drop on floor I can find the ball. At one time I had Rockwell tester but it leaves a mark after testing not good on new parts. It is nice easy useful project too. The Mohs hardness is easier for looking for materials scratch and go with magnic. All do is use like pencil of few type of hardness , magnetic and tape and ready for material hunting. The magnic is good see steel or not and 300 series and 400. FYI Most avoid 400 and it is magnic will work hardened to glass Dave .
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Switch Mode Power Supplies have at minimum 20 mS hold-up. In reality they have more, but not necessarily a lot more. I built a factory control system for the DOE way back when and used an unregulated "Ugly" brand power supply for the 24V. BIG transformer, BIGGER capacitors. Worked great. Cheap (for the time). Upper right corner of left enclosure Me working on version 2. I said it was way back in time, there are dinosaurs outside! On 10-Feb-25 20:44, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:
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Mini lathe 7 x12 14 8 shop drill press mill wood working sextant clocks gear milling equipment engine tractor rebuilding repair Mini lathe 7 x12 14 8 shop drill press mill wood working sextant clocks gear milling equipment engine tractor rebuilding repair Mini lathe 7 x12 14 8 shop drill press mill wood working sextant clocks gear milling equipment engine tractor rebuilding repair Mini lathe 7 x12 14 8 shop drill press mill wood working sextant clocks gear milling equipment engine tractor rebuil
In 1986 I was attending an Army Satellite terminal training class at Ft. Gordon, GA. Had a bad storm that night that shut down our terminal. I'd been writing a letter on the Heathkit. H89 computer when I left for class. Expected it to be shut down when I got back to the dorm. Nope! The filter caps in that power supply were the size of my fists. It was only a transient power hit, but it took down the relatively modern MILSPEC satellite terminal, and didn't touch the monstrous linear old-school linear power supply. Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. SEMPER GUMBY! Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome. Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first. On Monday, February 10, 2025 at 10:41:09 AM CST, Jerry Durand via groups.io <jdurand@...> wrote: It's what I mentioned about modern power supplies, an inverter welder is a SMPS (Switched Mode Power Supply). It converts the mains power to DC. Then Switches that at a high frequency. This means the transformer is much much smaller. You won't find big iron transformers in these, just small ferrite (a magnetic ceramic) transformers. I remember when these first came out, I worked at a MIL testing lab in the USA. We were amazed but concerned that the output voltage wasn't quite as clean as our big, boat-anchor sized, linear power supplies.
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Mini lathe 7 x12 14 8 shop drill press mill wood working sextant clocks gear milling equipment engine tractor rebuilding repair Mini lathe 7 x12 14 8 shop drill press mill wood working sextant clocks gear milling equipment engine tractor rebuilding repair Mini lathe 7 x12 14 8 shop drill press mill wood working sextant clocks gear milling equipment engine tractor rebuilding repair Mini lathe 7 x12 14 8 shop drill press mill wood working sextant clocks gear milling equipment engine tractor rebuil
Yep. Higher the frequency the lighter the wiring can be. Back in the day, aircraft electronics were run at 400hz, instead of the 60hz we use in households and industry. Switching would save a lot on expensive materials, but we'd have to remake EVERYTHING! Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. SEMPER GUMBY! Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome. Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first. On Monday, February 10, 2025 at 10:13:12 AM CST, davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote: I wonder how make they make inverter welders so light today. It was Aluminum winding onsecondary side now they lighter. Now it is high frequency is about what know. Dave
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Mini lathe 7 x12 14 8 shop drill press mill wood working sextant clocks gear milling equipment engine tractor rebuilding repair Mini lathe 7 x12 14 8 shop drill press mill wood working sextant clocks gear milling equipment engine tractor rebuilding repair Mini lathe 7 x12 14 8 shop drill press mill wood working sextant clocks gear milling equipment engine tractor rebuilding repair Mini lathe 7 x12 14 8 shop drill press mill wood working sextant clocks gear milling equipment engine tractor rebuil
It's what I mentioned about modern power supplies, an inverter welder is a SMPS (Switched Mode Power Supply). It converts the mains power to DC. Then Switches that at a high frequency. This means the transformer is much much smaller. You won't find big iron transformers in these, just small ferrite (a magnetic ceramic) transformers. I remember when these first came out, I worked at a MIL testing lab in the USA. We were amazed but concerned that the output voltage wasn't quite as clean as our big, boat-anchor sized, linear power supplies.
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Mini lathe 7 x12 14 8 shop drill press mill wood working sextant clocks gear milling equipment engine tractor rebuilding repair Mini lathe 7 x12 14 8 shop drill press mill wood working sextant clocks gear milling equipment engine tractor rebuilding repair Mini lathe 7 x12 14 8 shop drill press mill wood working sextant clocks gear milling equipment engine tractor rebuilding repair Metal standards
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Higher frequency uses less iron, not copper. It has to do with how much magnetic field the transformer core can hold. Slower frequency means more time to charge the core, so more iron needed. Modern power supplies convert the incoming ac to dc, then convert it back to ac, but at high frequency (up to a million hertz). From there it's back to dc. Sounds Rube Goldberg but it results in a tiny transformer. davesmith1800 wrote:
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Mini lathe 7 x12 14 8 shop drill press mill wood working sextant clocks gear milling equipment engine tractor rebuilding repair Mini lathe 7 x12 14 8 shop drill press mill wood working sextant clocks gear milling equipment engine tractor rebuilding repair Metal standards
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In the UK the power is 240V, 50Hz. Outlets are often wired in a ring, not just one linear connection. Here we have 220V, 50Hz. On the poles is 3 phase WYE, so 220V from any leg to the common and 380V from leg to leg. A typical dacha (small "country house") is connected to one leg and the common with a 25 amp breaker and RCD (like a ground fault breaker in the usa). That's all the power you get. Because of a series of murky events, we got all 3 phases so have 3 phase power for the workshop, our sauna, and the greenhouse heater. Wiring up the milling machine to 380 volts seemed odd, at that voltage it only has a 5 amp breaker (well, three 5 amp breakers ganged together). I'm still getting used to how thin wire is here, things use half the current and with the higher voltage can stand a greater voltage drop, hence thin wire. One problem with 50Hz is motors and transformers need 20% more iron in them, making them bigger and more expensive. In appliances like washing machines you'll find brushed motors instead of the induction motors the usa uses. Our refrigerator has a tiny brushless DC motor (3 phase with VFD) as we use propane/butane for refrigerant instead of the fluorocarbons we had in California. Propane/butane is more efficient and much lower pressure so refrigeration gear is pretty low power. If we were doing power systems over, probably something like 240 Volts at 100Hz would be good. It would certainly save a lot of iron and wasted wattage. But, at least we're not in the part of Japan where I hear they have 100 Volts and 50Hz, worst of both worlds.
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Note that color codes have changed over the years, so you have to match the color chart with the year your building was wired. I hear the UK really swapped colors around. Always check with a meter, I've seen yellow/green used for a live wire. I wasn't expecting that, I had to knock through the plaster to a junction box to fix it. On 09-Feb-25 8:30, davesmith1800 wrote:
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Metal standards
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Does anyone have a cross reference from usa metal standards to European ones? Like W1 drill rod being U8A (or §µ8§¡ locally). When I search for metals I keep finding various stainless but not so much of the other grades of steel and aluminum.
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Tapper Attachment for 10K lathe
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Sorry delay Been sick for last 6 days. Look on ebay The prices are out of site 0 I know for new the cost after inflation is still out side. Below is a screen shot of ebay Since new it has had very little use. Hand full of Cain bolts and a few #2 Morse taper. What is worth to you plus shipping It comes with almost new cross feed screw and upgrade dial. Dave Note I always keep the price separate from shipping never shipping inculcated. I like you pickup it up next is FedEx UPS if need be and USPS a extra charge for going to the post office and hasel FYI on this sites the message had problems on groups.io Later i will send you current photos too wait for it warm up
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File /5) Charts & Tables for machine work/2drill-tap-chrat.pdf uploaded
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The following items have been added to the Files area of the [email protected] group. /5) Charts & Tables for machine work/2drill-tap-chrat.pdf By: davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> Description: This one I have in my shop hanging in extra large size for easy reading since 1970¡¯s. I also have in my machines binder too. Very handy
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