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Hi Raphael,
This sounds very interesting. Can you give an example of a passive network that can match a small loop to a 50Ohm load across a wide band?
Even matching on 2 amateur bands with the same
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Hi Martin,
The second part of our discussion ¨C the mismatch loss that gets defined differently as:
t (tau) = 4 ( R rad + R loss ) x R load/ | Z antenna + Z load |^2
Here we have an
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Raphael Wasserman
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I hope I did not create more confusion¡
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2022 6:39 AM
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Hi Raphael,
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Raphael Wasserman
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Hi Raphael,
Can you confirm the following statements, in order to improve my understanding of some basic concepts.
I assume that by efficiency you mean radiation efficiency (ratio of the radiated
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Martin - Southwest UK
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Sigh.
I've got what I need to know.
IF you read through that thread (doubtful you did, and understanding, comprehending being
the next step up) then I need not add any more.
Thank you for your
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Jim
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Correction in wording ¨C instead of number of loops read number of turns¡
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Raphael Wasserman
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Martin,
Regardless the type of loop antenna untuned or tuned the radiation resistance gets calculated the same way because the radiation resistance is:
R rad.= 31200 x (NxA / wavelength of
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Raphael Wasserman
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Hello Jim,
STLcalc uses the formula presented in the 24th edition of the Antenna Book, and that is based on the Kraus equation as you have have noted. I keep the loop length, including the loop
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Augie "Gus" Hansen
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Unfortunately, I'm now even more confused...
But it think this is simply due to the definitions and how they are being used.
A quick question.
If we have a 'broadband' un-tuned loop, and then tune
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Martin - Southwest UK
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Curious ... what formula does STLcalc use?
Here is a discussion where the Kraus equation has been found to be incorrect in yielding the loop feedpoint
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Jim
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Check my qrz.com
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Simon
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Simon,? yes, but I would say "... can be...",? depending on given constraints...
Building a low-loss TX loop is quite a challenge!
Michael 2E0IHW
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Hi Michael
Tx loops are MUCH better than shrivelled up verticals and hence no space for useful radials on low bands..
See my qrz.com
Simon g0zen
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glug, glug, glug.... I am out of my depth here :-)
TX loops : last chance saloon if in real-estate penury.? Might be better or worse than a shrivelled vertical etc.
RX loops : whatever maths and
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VE7VXO
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Mike,
My point was not who likes or dislikes small loop antennas but for any antenna can be calculated or estimated the gain figure or its antenna factor.
During my dialog with well respected Martin
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Raphael Wasserman
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Rafael,
The article is about a shielded tuned loop with a split capacitor matching to 50 Ohm.
30dB loss on 7MHz compared to a full size dipole is not bad at all for a receive only antenna. Maybe a
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vbifyz
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Good evening Martin,
I found for you a paper published by Duffy at his blog https://owenduffy.net/antenna/shieldedloop/index.htm
Please read this article especially at its end where he points out
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Raphael Wasserman
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The attachments on my earlier posts regarding Linux updates were stripped somewhere along the way. So I have placed the attachments for both Linux Mint and Raspberry Pi OS in the following Dropbox
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Augie "Gus" Hansen
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The mentioned article/file is uploaded as ¡°Antenna_Paper_Part3.pdf¡±
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 3:37 PM
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