Re: For all you RTTY / Teletype fans out there..
I am thankful that the Air Force kept me as a TTY tech. for 20
years, because I had no problem finding a job in my retirement.
Msgt Donald Casillo USAF (ret)
On 9/25/24 08:21, Bo, W4GHV wrote:
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Interesting bio! I think doing a single specialty for a long
time would be great if you loved it. I had 4 in the USAF since
they love to shuffle you around about the time you love a
skill/job. USAF '58-'78
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Re: For all you RTTY / Teletype fans out there..
Interesting bio! I think doing a single specialty for a long time would be great if you loved it. I had 4 in the USAF since they love to shuffle you around about the time you love a skill/job. USAF '58-'78
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Re: Guide to New Rig backend creation?
Thanks Dave.
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I'll see how I get on.
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No doubt I'll be back here again at somepoint soon.
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All the best.
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Dave G0WBX.
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Re: #flrig flrig not working with my FT-890 FTDI Programming Cable
#flrig
Thanks for looking at this.
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Yes, those are the changes that I made.
I don't understand your menu system and all that are in these statements, so you should review approve them.
The changes do not take into consideration the filter bandwidth, so something needs to be done about that. There should be something for CW-N and AM-N. I don't think that FM-N exists.
It all comes from the mode information is different between the reading and writing of it.
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Re: For all you RTTY / Teletype fans out there..
I was for 20 years five months and eight days a Teletype Tech. in
the Air Force. Models 15, 19, 28s. I worked for Teletype Corp.
(three years) after military retirement working on Models 33, 35,
I also worked on Model 40 and 43s (eletronic? type). I also worked
for the FAA for 24 years on flight strip printers and lots of
eletronic gadgets. Msgt Donald Casillo USAF (ret) ?
On 9/22/24 22:45, Paul Simon wrote:
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Very interesting, David.? I have a model 15
which I acquired around 1968 and used for many years here prior
to the ubiquity of PC's.? The machine in the video described as
a model 14 is not.? The model 14 was a typing reperforator
usually with a rotary TD attached to transmit.. Because the
paper tape was also used to transmit it needed holes, but if you
had holes you could not read the print.? The solution was to
punch "toilet lids."? The chad was attached to the paper tape by
being punched almost all the way around.? I had one and let it
go many years ago.
I will be happy to share any and all, as well a few stories
about using the model 15 and it's quirks.
On 9/22/2024 7:55 PM, David Ranch,
KI6ZHD via groups.io wrote:
For all you RTTY / Teletype fans out there, this is a fantastic
video taking the viewer through how a teletype unity actual
works including details into Baudot 45, a full teardown and
rebuild of both a typewriter style and ticker-tape style
teletype, etc.? Great stuff and well worth your time:
??
This video comes from "Usagi Electric" who has made a lot of
other great videos on building his own vacuum tube based 1bit
computer, restoring various tube and legacy Mini computers,
etc.?
--David
KI6ZHD
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Re: #flrig flrig not working with my FT-890 FTDI Programming Cable
#flrig
Thank you Steve.? Please
confirm that these are the changes you implemented:
diff src/rigs/yaesu/FT890.cxx FT890.cxx
251,253c251,254
< ??? ??? ??? case 1: A.imode = ((replystr[6] & 0x40) ==
0x40) ? 3 : 2; break;
< ??? ??? ??? case 2: A.imode = ((replystr[6] & 0x80) ==
0x80) ? 5 : 4; break;
< ??? ??? ??? case 3: A.imode = ((replystr[6] & 0x80) ==
0x80) ? 7 : 6; break;
---
> ??? ??? ??? case 1: A.imode = ((replystr[6] & 0x40) ==
0x40) ? 3 : 1; break;
> ??? ??? ??? case 2: A.imode = ((replystr[6] & 0x80) ==
0x80) ? 5 : 2; break;
> ??? ??? ??? case 3: A.imode = ((replystr[6] & 0x80) ==
0x80) ? 7 : 4; break;
> ??? ??? ??? case 4: A.imode = ((replystr[6] & 0x80) ==
0x80) ? 9 : 6; break;
268,270c269,272
< ??? ??? ??? case 1: B.imode = ((replystr[15] & 0x40) ==
0x40) ? 3 : 2; break;
< ??? ??? ??? case 2: B.imode = ((replystr[15] & 0x80) ==
0x80) ? 5 : 4; break;
< ??? ??? ??? case 3: B.imode = ((replystr[15] & 0x80) ==
0x80) ? 7 : 6; break;
---
> ??? ??? ??? case 1: B.imode = ((replystr[15] & 0x40) ==
0x40) ? 3 : 1; break;
> ??? ??? ??? case 2: B.imode = ((replystr[15] & 0x80) ==
0x80) ? 5 : 2; break;
> ??? ??? ??? case 3: B.imode = ((replystr[15] & 0x80) ==
0x80) ? 7 : 4; break;
> ??? ??? ??? case 4: B.imode = ((replystr[15] & 0x80) ==
0x80) ? 9 : 6; break;
364c366
< ??? cmd[3] = FT890_mode_val[val] | 0x80;
---
> ??? cmd[3] = FT890_mode_val[val];
73, David, W1HKJ
On 9/24/24 18:38, Steve, KB5AW wrote:
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I wanted to see about fixing the Yaesu FT-890 rig in flrig,
so I looked at the code and did some hacking.
I suggest that you look at the code for correctness.
I used flrig-2.0.05.75
I got the modes selection menu to basically work, but more
changes are needed.
Here is what I did by modifying the attached
src/rigs/yaesu/FT890.cxx
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vfoA and vfoB worked differently.
- Line 341 for set_modeA is:
? ? cmd[3] = FT890_mode_val[val];
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- Line 366 for set_modeB is different. I changed it to be
like line 341.
? ? cmd[3] = FT890_mode_val[val] | 0x80;
Now: cmd[3] = FT890_mode_val[val];
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Now both vfos work the same for mode.
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I worked with with the switch statement on line 249. Added
case 4 for FM mode.
The changes I made work for the base modes, but the menu does
not track wide/narrow. My rig does not seem to have FM narrow
and I don't see it in the manual.
Note that only modes which have 2 bandwidths are incremented by
2.
A.iBW? on line 244 seems to be the filter bandwidth, but isn't
used anywhere.
Note that for setting Mode, values are: LSB=0, USB=1, CW-wide=2,
CW-nar=3, AM-wide=4, AM-nar=5, FM=6 or 7.
For reading Mode, the values are: 0=LSB, 1=USB, 2=CW, 3=AM,
4=FM. BPF selection is indicated by byte 0.
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Re: #flrig flrig not working with my FT-890 FTDI Programming Cable
#flrig
I wanted to see about fixing the Yaesu FT-890 rig in flrig, so I looked at the code and did some hacking.
I suggest that you look at the code for correctness.
I used flrig-2.0.05.75
I got the modes selection menu to basically work, but more changes are needed.
Here is what I did by modifying the attached src/rigs/yaesu/FT890.cxx
?
vfoA and vfoB worked differently.
- Line 341 for set_modeA is:
? ? cmd[3] = FT890_mode_val[val];
?
- Line 366 for set_modeB is different. I changed it to be like line 341.
? ? cmd[3] = FT890_mode_val[val] | 0x80;
Now: cmd[3] = FT890_mode_val[val];
?
Now both vfos work the same for mode.
-----
I worked with with the switch statement on line 249. Added case 4 for FM mode.
The changes I made work for the base modes, but the menu does not track wide/narrow. My rig does not seem to have FM narrow and I don't see it in the manual.
Note that only modes which have 2 bandwidths are incremented by 2.
A.iBW? on line 244 seems to be the filter bandwidth, but isn't used anywhere.
Note that for setting Mode, values are: LSB=0, USB=1, CW-wide=2, CW-nar=3, AM-wide=4, AM-nar=5, FM=6 or 7.
For reading Mode, the values are: 0=LSB, 1=USB, 2=CW, 3=AM, 4=FM. BPF selection is indicated by byte 0.
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Re: For all you RTTY / Teletype fans out there..
Well if we¡¯re waxing nostalgic I was army signal corp when I got my first ham license. Bit later than you two, 2003. Ended up being a physician instead so can¡¯t say the signal corp stuck with me, tho I still ride the waves!
KD7YJW
Teletype repair was one of the school choices that the Army offered me in 1976. ? Glad I declined that one.? Nike Test Equipment Repair (22L) provided a lot more opportunities over the years.
Davee W2IJL
On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 2:11?PM Donald, KD5UGY via <dcasillo= [email protected]> wrote:
I was an Air Force Teletypewriter Tech. for 20 years, five
months, eight days, Nov. 1958 to Dec. 1978. Msgt Donald Casillo
USAF (ret)?
On 9/24/24 11:02, Bo, W4GHV wrote:
Nice! I had 2 Model 15s.?
My troubleshooting skills:?
Look at working one, fix broken model.
Monkey see, monkey do
Where's my 35 minute paper tape of the X O . pinup girl on a
stool?
73 Bo W4GHV for SEVENTY YEARS?
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Re: For all you RTTY / Teletype fans out there..
Teletype repair was one of the school choices that the Army offered me in 1976. ? Glad I declined that one.? Nike Test Equipment Repair (22L) provided a lot more opportunities over the years.
Davee W2IJL
On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 2:11?PM Donald, KD5UGY via <dcasillo= [email protected]> wrote:
I was an Air Force Teletypewriter Tech. for 20 years, five
months, eight days, Nov. 1958 to Dec. 1978. Msgt Donald Casillo
USAF (ret)?
On 9/24/24 11:02, Bo, W4GHV wrote:
Nice! I had 2 Model 15s.?
My troubleshooting skills:?
Look at working one, fix broken model.
Monkey see, monkey do
Where's my 35 minute paper tape of the X O . pinup girl on a
stool?
73 Bo W4GHV for SEVENTY YEARS?
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Re: For all you RTTY / Teletype fans out there..
I was an Air Force Teletypewriter Tech. for 20 years, five
months, eight days, Nov. 1958 to Dec. 1978. Msgt Donald Casillo
USAF (ret)?
On 9/24/24 11:02, Bo, W4GHV wrote:
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Nice! I had 2 Model 15s.?
My troubleshooting skills:?
Look at working one, fix broken model.
Monkey see, monkey do
Where's my 35 minute paper tape of the X O . pinup girl on a
stool?
73 Bo W4GHV for SEVENTY YEARS?
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Re: For all you RTTY / Teletype fans out there..
Nice! I had 2 Model 15s.?
My troubleshooting skills:?
Look at working one, fix broken model.
Monkey see, monkey do
Where's my 35 minute paper tape of the X O . pinup girl on a stool?
73 Bo W4GHV for SEVENTY YEARS?
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Re: Guide to New Rig backend creation?
How to add a new transceiver
to flrig
? Two new files will need to be added:
??? . src/include/RIGFAMILY/NEWRIG.h
??? . src/rigs/RIGFAMILY/NEWRIG.cxx
? Three files will need to be modified:
??? . Makefile.am
?????? add the references to the two new files
??? . src/include/rigs.h
??? . src/rigs/rigs.cxx
?????? add the references to the new rig
? RIGFAMILY might be icom, yaesu, elad, etc.
? NEWRIG might be IC-9999, FT-9999, etc.
Suggest using an existing rig (.cxx, .h) files as a template for
the new rig.? Choose a file that will use similar CAT commands.
After the new files have been added and the three files updated
you will need to recreate the build scripts.? From the top level
flrig directory:
? $ autoreconf
? $ ./configure
? $ make
David
On 9/23/24 12:00, Dave, G?WBX via
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Afternoon
All...? (From a wet day in the UK.)
Some time ago (back in the day of Linux Mint 15!), I helped "flesh
out" a new(ish) backend for the Kenwood TS870.? Receiving much
welcome help and hints from Dave and Ed via this list.
Sometime later (years.) ? ISTR there was mention of (or proposal
for) a documented guide for a "How to" showing the correct way to
create a new radio backend for Flrig, doing that either based on
an existing similar rig, or new "from scratch".
I also seem to recall, Dave 'HKJ sent me something around the same
time, but can I find that, anywhere?? Of course not.? Even if I
could, I suspect things have changed within Flrig since then...??
I can't see anything in the wiki area either.
So, is there an up-to-date document anywhere, describing how to
create and integrate a new radio backend these days?
Only ask as I have acquired an Icom IC-R9000 for the shack, and
would like to "integrate it into the fold" as it were.
(Hamlib knows of the radio, but that's not entirely complete, and
is very buggy too, though it proves that the USB<>CIV device
and radio work OK together.)
Any info re the above welcome.
73.
Dave G0WBX.
Currently running LMDE 6 (Faye) & able to build Fldigi and
friends from source without issues.
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FLRIG with Windows, Linux and the MAC
Howdy all,
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First post here!
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I've been a Linux user since the mid 1990's starting with Redhat 7.x, 8.0 and 9.x when they switched to Fedora.
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I then switched to SuSE Linux at around version 9.0 and have stayed with OpenSuSE to this day using Leap 15.5 on my 6-core AMD desktop and Leap 15.6 on my Mid 2012 MacBook Pro (Core i7)
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I have had FLRIG and FLDIGI working on Winblows, and many earlier versions of OpenSuSE? (even KDE Neon) and it has always worked well!
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Interesting problem now though.
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I cannot get the FLRIG S-meter, power, SWR etc (except Voltage display) to work now using the Linux version on the MACBook Pro nor can I get it to work on my other (newer early 2015) MacBook Pro (running MAC OS Monterey)
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All the above operating systems are connected to an ICOM IC-705 (not at the same time!!)
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Anyone know what obvious problem I have that I cannot see?
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Thanks,
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73/Rick
W4XA
Western? Wa
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Flrig TS870 TX power control.
Hi.
As part of warming up the grey cell, I pulled the latest Flrig Alpha (2.0.05.75).
With my TS870s.??? I noticed the "Power" slider was able to go down to 0.? (The rig's control ability only goes down to 10W.)
So..? I tweaked the code in TS870s.h
From line 82...
//? int? get_swr();
??? int? get_power_out();
?? ?double get_power_control();
Is now...
//? int? get_swr();
??? int? get_power_out();
??? double get_power_control();
//? void get_pc_min_max_step(double &, double &, double &) {
?? ?void get_pc_min_max_step(double &min, double &max, double &step) {
?? ???? min = 10; max = 100; step = 1; }? // wbx4
??? void set_power_control(double val);? // relocated from original line 94 wbx4
It builds without error, and the resulting "Pwr" control on the UI, is now scaled 10 to 100W and behaves well.
Hopefully, the TS870s.h file is not referenced by any other backend.
( That is something I've yet to figure out, how to trace what other code might call what I'm looking at / working on.
I don't think even Doxygen can help with that, at least asking vastly more experienced coders in the past hasn't been fruitful.
Tracing forward call's is easy of course, but backwards across multiple source files?? Anyone know? )
Anyway...? Bouquets or Brickbats welcome.
73
Dave G0WBX.
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Created on and sent from a Unix like PC running and using open source software:
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Guide to New Rig backend creation?
Afternoon All...? (From a wet day in the UK.)
Some time ago (back in the day of Linux Mint 15!), I helped "flesh out" a new(ish) backend for the Kenwood TS870.? Receiving much welcome help and hints from Dave and Ed via this list.
Sometime later (years.) ? ISTR there was mention of (or proposal for) a documented guide for a "How to" showing the correct way to create a new radio backend for Flrig, doing that either based on an existing similar rig, or new "from scratch".
I also seem to recall, Dave 'HKJ sent me something around the same time, but can I find that, anywhere?? Of course not.? Even if I could, I suspect things have changed within Flrig since then...?? I can't see anything in the wiki area either.
So, is there an up-to-date document anywhere, describing how to create and integrate a new radio backend these days?
Only ask as I have acquired an Icom IC-R9000 for the shack, and would like to "integrate it into the fold" as it were.
(Hamlib knows of the radio, but that's not entirely complete, and is very buggy too, though it proves that the USB<>CIV device and radio work OK together.)
Any info re the above welcome.
73.
Dave G0WBX.
Currently running LMDE 6 (Faye) & able to build Fldigi and friends from source without issues.
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Created on and sent from a Unix like PC running and using open source software:
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Re: For all you RTTY / Teletype fans out there..
Great video, thanks.
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73, Bruce. W4BRU
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Re: For all you RTTY / Teletype fans out there..
On 23/09/2024 03:55, David Ranch, KI6ZHD via groups.io wrote: For all you RTTY / Teletype fans out there, this is a fantastic video Takes me back to my youth. School radio club was run by a teacher into RTTY. So I grew up from 11-18 on AR88, CR100, B40 receivers and Teletype models 14, 15 & 28s as well as British Creed 7Bs. We used US CV89A FSK units. The built in 1in scope made tuning noisy signals easier. As a kid I wanted to play with computers and solid state stuff but there no computers and most gear used valves(tubes) and radio and RTTY was the next best thing. Teletype 28 was my favourite unit. We had 2 of them both KSR units. Plenty of TTY15 page printers and a complete TTY19 which was a TTY15 ASR unit and an extra tape TD unit on a metal table strong enough to take the weight. The PSU used a mercury rectifier so there was a light show in time to the selector magnets clicking. They were all set for 45.45 baud commercial speeds and so we'd copy news output from behind the Iron Curtain, Tanjug and TASS being the easiest signals to copy. I can remember copying some class propaganda about "American imperialists and fascists" from an Albania news source. Even as a kid with limited understanding of world politics it was funny to read. I last used a real Teletype in 1979, 45 years back. The last few years there has been a demonstration teletype running at the Friedrichshafen Rally. The smell of warm machine oil and the clackety-clack made me feel 50 years younger. That was a Siemens 100 which is similar in looks to a TTY15 page printer but quieter. RTTY with a PC holds no interest compared to RTTY with a real TTY. Andy
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Re: For all you RTTY / Teletype fans out there..
Very interesting, David.? I have a model 15 which
I acquired around 1968 and used for many years here prior to the
ubiquity of PC's.? The machine in the video described as a model
14 is not.? The model 14 was a typing reperforator usually with a
rotary TD attached to transmit.. Because the paper tape was also
used to transmit it needed holes, but if you had holes you could
not read the print.? The solution was to punch "toilet lids."? The
chad was attached to the paper tape by being punched almost all
the way around.? I had one and let it go many years ago.
I will be happy to share any and all, as well a few stories about
using the model 15 and it's quirks.
On 9/22/2024 7:55 PM, David Ranch,
KI6ZHD via groups.io wrote:
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For all you RTTY / Teletype fans out there, this is a fantastic
video taking the viewer through how a teletype unity actual works
including details into Baudot 45, a full teardown and rebuild of
both a typewriter style and ticker-tape style teletype, etc.?
Great stuff and well worth your time:
??
This video comes from "Usagi Electric" who has made a lot of other
great videos on building his own vacuum tube based 1bit computer,
restoring various tube and legacy Mini computers, etc.?
--David
KI6ZHD
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For all you RTTY / Teletype fans out there..
For all you RTTY / Teletype fans out there, this is a fantastic
video taking the viewer through how a teletype unity actual works
including details into Baudot 45, a full teardown and rebuild of
both a typewriter style and ticker-tape style teletype, etc.? Great
stuff and well worth your time:
??
This video comes from "Usagi Electric" who has made a lot of other
great videos on building his own vacuum tube based 1bit computer,
restoring various tube and legacy Mini computers, etc.?
--David
KI6ZHD
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Re: mhuxd for MKii microham on Mint Linux
The step-by-step is here:
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I do have to say that I spent a big block of time one day trying to get it to work with my Mint system, and was only partial successful. In order to troubleshoot something at this level, you need to be an experienced software nerd with experience with device-driver level code.
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Bo, W4GHV
Dave, W1HKJ
Bruce W4BRU