Re: Fldigi 4.2.06.26 on Linux (LMDE 6)
Kind of known/derived knowledge plus some of the manual Dave.
It is pointed out that Thor/Domino being IFK have a wide tuning
margin. It follows then that FSQ/IFKP (also IFK) will have the
same "feature". Olivia/Contestia have an adjustable tuning margin
that can allow decoding somewhat away from the centre. (In real
life though there seems to be some degradation on a low s/n
signal)
OFDM/8PSK HAVE to use RSID (and/or the pilot tone) to centre the
signal before their own and built in far more critical (phase
locked) AFC is employed.
Multicarrier PSK doesn't appear to have a working AFC. RsID and
the ability to lock RX/TX with an offset seems to works well for
that. To me that is the only unanswered AFC question.
MFSK is known to be frequency critical and single carrier PSK
performs similarly better . I tend to use the data scope for that.
I have also noticed far more BPSK31 stations using RsID in the
last few months. RTTY also has an adjustable AFC.
Not much left... I did notice some strange AFC button behaviour
maybe a year ago, but not really using it I wasn't worried. Pretty
sure I reported it (here) at the time.
Cheers Bob VK2YQA
On 29/3/25 00:16, Dave, G?WBX via
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Someone made mention of the fact that AFC was not valid* for
all modes.?? Where is that information please?? As I can't see
it in the web help doc's.?? Only this, in Fldigi's built in
help.
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Re: Fldigi 4.2.06.26 on Linux (LMDE 6)
Replying to my own posts ...? Not ideal but...
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I crafted the last mail in the groups.io web page, while Fldigi was running in the background, with the "errant" disabled AFC control with "unlit" LED, but AFC observed to be active.
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After I sent the last mail, and shutdown the browser (Firefox 136.0.2 64 bit) and restored Fldigi to front-of-house....
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The AFC button was NOT greyed out any more, AND it was showing AFC active!? I.e.? The? "Green LED" is lit.
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This is beyond my ability to debug.?? But I can follow instructions to gather information if so desired.
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Fldigi 4.2.06.26 on Linux (LMDE 6)
Hi again...
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Pulled and built 4.2.06.26 without issue a few days ago, and everything was good.? A major OS update appeared "took" without issue, and Fldigi still behaved as one would expect, even after restarts and so on.? Great!
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Fired it all up this morning (March 28th, 10AM UK) and all good.
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Had to shutdown the PC some time later to move some other hardware about, much easier if I can move the PC and monitors out of the way.? Put it all back and started it all again.? No issue...
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But, after a while running in the background (while I did some email's in another UI desktop) while it was running PSK31 mode (that WAS showing the AFC control as able to be used, but NOT active.)?? On restoring Fldigi to "the front" (AKA "in focus") and active use, that AFC button is again greyed out.? But, fiddling with the radio and a steady strong signal, the AFC is ACTIVE, but not working correctly, even though the greyed out button shows it as INACTIVE.?? And of course, I can't control it.?? Restarting Fldigi, the PC etc, that AFC button is permanently greyed out, but the underlying AFC functionality is still ACTIVE!..
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Someone made mention of the fact that AFC was not valid* for all modes.?? Where is that information please?? As I can't see it in the web help doc's.?? Only this, in Fldigi's built in help.
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AFC (AFC) control
When this button is pressed, an indicator on the button turns yellow, and the program will automatically retune to drifting signals. When the button is again pressed, AFC is off, and the tuning will stay where you leave it.
No mention of which modes it applies to, or not...
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(* Valid or not, when the control is greyed out, and the LED also shows grey) it seems to be active for all modes, if you watch it's behavior on a busy waterfall, especially a weak signal with stronger ones nearby/encroaching.)
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So, what on earth is going on?
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Still confused of Central UK.
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FYI
There is also in install script at
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It is for Ubuntu but I guess that it would go also with Mint (not tested).
It does the job from beginning including MariaDB, no need to install any package versions of Cqrlog first.
Script installs first all dependencies and after that the latest official Cqrlog (the tgz file from cqrlog.com/download).
Then it offers direct update to CqrlogAlpha.
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So I just finished a net with the local ARES group on their FM
repeater. There was a lot of traffic that I received and I passed
traffic and no lockup. So hopefully disabling USB sleep fixed it.
When I built Fldigi I didn't install pavucontrol because like I said
there was a message that popped up saying there was a conflict with
pipewire and pulseaudio.
The one thing I noticed is I can click the speaker icon in the task
bar, select the USB Audio Device and adjust the audio levels which
is easier than using pavucontrol and the sound levels both speaker
and mic seem to be okay.
I have PortAudio selected with pipewire.
Thanks again and 73, Ron NY3J
On 3/27/25 14:58, Ron NY3J via
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Hi Joe,
I am running Mint 22.1 and Fldigi version 4.2.06.09 and I use
Rigcat for rig control. Usually Fldigi does run 20% or less CPU.
It's usually during a net when there's lots of things happening
that, without warning, I look at Fldigi and it stopped. Very
embarrassing when NCS just called on me to send my traffic :-)
So the autosuspend was 2 and I used the instructions in the
Linuxmint forum to set it to -1. Thanks for the information. It's
interesting that it didn't effect my wireless USB keyboard and
mouse.
73, Ron NY3J
On 3/27/25 14:23, Joseph Counsil,
K?OG via groups.io wrote:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 07:56 PM, Ron NY3J wrote:
I am running Linux Mint 22 Cinnamon and Fldigi
version 4.2.06.09
Ron,
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Are you running Mint 22.0 or is it Mint 22.1?? I'm running
Mint 22.1 and Fldigi 4.2.06.26 and have no problems.? I use
Flrig 2.0.05.93 for rig control, and sometimes run two
instances of Fldigi with no problems.? I'm using pulseaudio.?
If I look at top, I see Fldigi uses less than 20% CPU, and
mostly runs around 5%-10% range.
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Perhaps you would benefit from upgrading to Mint 22.1 (if
you are not already there), and build/install Fldigi
4.2.06.26.
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It seems possible you are experiencing a USB sleep issue.?
Here is a way to disable USB sleep at boot time:
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You might also try setting the file
to the contents of "-1" if it is not already set to that.
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73,
-Joe-
K0OG
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Hi Mike,
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I was rereading the bit about the alpha binaries and it looks like you might have to conquer that database thing to get a working version before using the alpha stuff.
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Per the notes I saved on my pc, I believe it was as simple as using apt instead of the software manager
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sudo apt install cqrlog
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then
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sudo apt install mariadb-client mariadb-server
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Make sure you are in the dialout group
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sudo usermod -aG dialout (your user name here without parenthesis)
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You probably have to logout and back in for the groups to take effect.?
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That should probably get you going.
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From there, I used it as it for a while as is and then used the update script for the alpha and have done a couple of updates now.? For mint, I believe it is the GTK2 version.
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Tim
KK9T
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Thank you Tim!? 73,
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Mike K0TQ
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Hi Mike,
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If you are working on the CQRLOG version from the software manager, it is probably quite old.? I've always had problems getting it to work and that was related to the MySQL vs MariaDB thing. I do not believe there has been an official version of CQRLOG released in several years.? That said, OH1KH is maintaining an alpha version with a significant number of changes over the last official version.? Check out:
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for details.? This also includes scripts for installs and updates that has made it pretty easy to get it up and running.? I have used both on my Mint Cinnamon 22 over the course of the last year or so.
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Also, Saku, OH1KH, does monitor the CQRLOG forum on that web site and will respond to questions should you wish to stay with the official version.
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HTH,
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73,
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Tim
KK9T
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Hi Joe,
I am running Mint 22.1 and Fldigi version 4.2.06.09 and I use Rigcat
for rig control. Usually Fldigi does run 20% or less CPU. It's
usually during a net when there's lots of things happening that,
without warning, I look at Fldigi and it stopped. Very embarrassing
when NCS just called on me to send my traffic :-)
So the autosuspend was 2 and I used the instructions in the
Linuxmint forum to set it to -1. Thanks for the information. It's
interesting that it didn't effect my wireless USB keyboard and
mouse.
73, Ron NY3J
On 3/27/25 14:23, Joseph Counsil, K?OG
via groups.io wrote:
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On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 07:56 PM, Ron NY3J wrote:
I am running Linux Mint 22 Cinnamon and Fldigi
version 4.2.06.09
Ron,
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Are you running Mint 22.0 or is it Mint 22.1?? I'm running
Mint 22.1 and Fldigi 4.2.06.26 and have no problems.? I use
Flrig 2.0.05.93 for rig control, and sometimes run two instances
of Fldigi with no problems.? I'm using pulseaudio.? If I look at
top, I see Fldigi uses less than 20% CPU, and mostly runs around
5%-10% range.
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Perhaps you would benefit from upgrading to Mint 22.1 (if you
are not already there), and build/install Fldigi 4.2.06.26.
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It seems possible you are experiencing a USB sleep issue.?
Here is a way to disable USB sleep at boot time:
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You might also try setting the file
to the contents of "-1" if it is not already set to that.
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73,
-Joe-
K0OG
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On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 07:56 PM, Ron NY3J wrote:
I am running Linux Mint 22 Cinnamon and Fldigi version 4.2.06.09
Ron,
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Are you running Mint 22.0 or is it Mint 22.1?? I'm running Mint 22.1 and Fldigi 4.2.06.26 and have no problems.? I use Flrig 2.0.05.93 for rig control, and sometimes run two instances of Fldigi with no problems.? I'm using pulseaudio.? If I look at top, I see Fldigi uses less than 20% CPU, and mostly runs around 5%-10% range.
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Perhaps you would benefit from upgrading to Mint 22.1 (if you are not already there), and build/install Fldigi 4.2.06.26.
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It seems possible you are experiencing a USB sleep issue.? Here is a way to disable USB sleep at boot time:
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You might also try setting the file to the contents of "-1" if it is not already set to that.
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73,
-Joe-
K0OG
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Hi all, new to Linux and new to group. Have installed CQRLOG from software manager within Mint-Cinnamon.? Opens with database error and will not go any further.? My goal is to make Linux my primary OS with Windows on separate drive and would like to have the logger available on Linux drive.? Thanks to mediators for letting me in the group and any tips/advice is welcome. 73,
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Mike K0TQ
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Thanks David, that does make sense on the various threads of Fldigi
that runs. I can imagine all of the processes that it uses.
So I have tried various audio settings, portaudio, pulse audio and
pipewire and I've had the lock ups with all three. I can't remember
ever having
issues before when the various Linux systems didn't use pipewire and
I'm suspicious of it. When I follow the WIKI for the Linux Mint
build that
says to install pavucontrol I get a message that says there's a
conflict with pipewire. I select yes to accept and everything seems
to be okay.
73, Ron NY3J
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htop is showing every running thread separately.?
fldigi at times can be executing on over 20 threads,?
This looks suspiciously like a problem with the audio
stream.? Are you using portaudio, pulse audio, or pipewire???
David
Hi Linux Users,
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Just wanted to update this topic to keep it alive. I'm
still fighting the Fldigi lockup. Here's a screen shot of
HTOP when I get the Fldigi freeze:
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I'm wondering why there are so many instances of Fldigi
and how does the CPU percentage go above 100%.
When I switch back to Windows 11 I don't have any
problems. I really want to use the Linux version.
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73, Ron NY3J
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htop is showing every running thread separately.? fldigi at times can be executing on over 20 threads,?
This looks suspiciously like a problem with the audio stream.? Are you using portaudio, pulse audio, or pipewire???
David
Hi Linux Users,
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Just wanted to update this topic to keep it alive. I'm still fighting the Fldigi lockup. Here's a screen shot of HTOP when I get the Fldigi freeze:
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I'm wondering why there are so many instances of Fldigi and how does the CPU percentage go above 100%.
When I switch back to Windows 11 I don't have any problems. I really want to use the Linux version.
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73, Ron NY3J
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Hi.
I always unpack Fldigi/Flrig (etc) downloaded sources into
/home/Dave/app-src, and then cd into the project source top folder
before running ./configure?? That is needed, as indeed, such
folders are rarely (if ever) on the OS's search path list.
That'll keep your ~/Dowloads folder tidy and not growing like
topsy too.
Have you read the Fldigi wiki, and the "how to" section regarding
building from source, especially the part about installing all the
"build essential" stuff first?? Just in case you forgot...
Regards.
Dave G0WBX.?? Running LMDE 6 here.
Fldigi 4.2.06.26(alpha) and all is well, so far.
Flrig 2.0.05 (Release, as the later alpha's have wierd stuff
happening re some button behaviour, with some of my radio's, that
I'm unable to figure out and fix myself..)
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Hi Linux Users,
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Just wanted to update this topic to keep it alive. I'm still fighting the Fldigi lockup. Here's a screen shot of HTOP when I get the Fldigi freeze:
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I'm wondering why there are so many instances of Fldigi and how does the CPU percentage go above 100%.
When I switch back to Windows 11 I don't have any problems. I really want to use the Linux version.
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73, Ron NY3J
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Since FLDigi works for you, you might opt for FLRig to control the radio, and WSJT-X can use FLRig as the CAT interface. This makes setting up multiple software much simper since almost all can all do this.
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Yeah. Decided to redo my PC and see if it works.? Mate 22.10
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As of now GDEBI see WSJT as a problem.
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It states dependency is not satisfiable. Might try earlier version from Synaptic and see if that works.
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Will
2M0WHN
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After redoing my desktop to the UbuntuMate release 24.10 and installing FLdigi, this came up:
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configure: error: in `/home/will/Downloads/fldigi-4.2.06':
configure: error: The pkg-config script could not be found or is too old. ?Make sure it
is in your PATH or set the PKG_CONFIG environment variable to the full
path to pkg-config.
Alternatively, you may set the environment variables PNG_CFLAGS
and PNG_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
See the pkg-config man page for more details.
To get pkg-config, see <http://pkg-config.freedesktop.org/>.
See `config.log' for more details
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Is there a way around this to get FLdigi sorted for use?
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Will
2M0WHN
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That may be the result of a Windoze update (assuming you use that
OS.)
WSJTx uses its own "baked in" version of Hamlib for radio
control.
Check what it has and is using.
You would also best quote what OS you use, and software titles +
versions, as well as what radio you are using.
Are there any error messages shown, or logged?? If so, we need to
know those too please.
Else there is little to go
on.????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
73.
Dave G0WBX.
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CALL3.txt - where to get "fresh" (WSJT-X)
I understand that CALL3.txt is filled individually. But still, maybe there are links?
Do not suggest links that I know of ( and ).
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Ron NY3J
Joseph Counsil, K?OG
Dave, W1HKJ
Hakan Koseoglu