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commit 0169172527f33938496aa6672adf7b0947922def
Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Sun Dec 8 17:20:08 2024 -0600

??? THOR25
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????? * add new thor modem with following characteristics
??????? . symlen = 320
??????? . samplerate = 8000
??????? . flushlength = 20
??????? . bandwidth = 460
??????? . IEEE coefficients for viterbi encode/decode algorithms
????????? THOR_K15? 15
????????? K15_POLY1 044735
????????? K15_POLY2 063057
????? * increased flush length for all baud rates
????? * added configurable start of signal shaping to these modem types:
??????? . psk
??????? . mfsk
??????? . rtty
??????? . thor
????? * removed end of signal shaping
????? * assigned secondary RsID code 691

Thor-25 signal showing RsID and 200 msec rise time at start of data stream.

73, David
W1HKJ

Re: FLDIGI MAC RTTY crashing

#53744

Which program do you have controlling the rig (CAT)? I use Rumlog and Fldigi but have Fldigi controlling CAT. I've had problems with RL controlling CAT and definitely a problem if both apps are trying to control the rig.

Mike

AG7AB

Re: FLDIGI MAC RTTY crashing

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I am operating at less then HALF the rated RTTY power of the amplifier. ?I don’t know why power would cause FLDIGI to crash. Anyone else having this problem?

Ray

W8LYJ?

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On Dec 6, 2024, at 8:34?PM, Chuck Reti WV8A via groups.io <wv8a@...> wrote:

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RTTY transmission is full duty cycle, always key-down. What happens if you throttle back your output power to about half of what you're doing now? There's nothing about RTTY as an audio mode that should affect the software that's generating it.

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Chuck

WV8A

Re: FLDIGI MAC RTTY crashing

#53742

RTTY transmission is full duty cycle, always key-down. What happens if you throttle back your output power to about half of what you're doing now? There's nothing about RTTY as an audio mode that should affect the software that's generating it.

Chuck

WV8A

Re: flrig 2.0.05 remote xml_client

#53741

Same result with QMX as rig and client compiled 2.0.05.85 (alpha)

FLDIGI MAC RTTY crashing

#53740

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I use Mac version FLDIGI with RUMlog for logging. FLDIGI crashes when running with RTTY. I use RUMlog macros and EOM

Ray?

W8LYJ

Re: [winfldigi] MFSK / THOR tests

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In the US Thor-25 may be used on any frequency allocated for digital modes.? I have not assigned an RsID for the mode but will do so after the mode specification is finalized.? I am experimenting with smaller flush_length bytes to reduce transmission overhead; 20 seem to work as well as 40.? These are required to avoid decode errors at the beginning of the data stream.

You can use a video text at the beginning of the transmission to assist others in recognizing the mode:

David

On 12/6/24 08:40, Bobby Chandler via groups.io wrote:

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Dave,

What freqs for Thor25?

Bobby/N4AU

On 12/6/2024 7:49 AM, Dave wrote:

Thanks Barry.? I would appreciate your doing some real world testing with THOR-25.? My bench tests show it to give >99% copy with PathSim/LinSim Mid-Latitude Disturbed simulation.

SCAMP is intended to be compatible with an Arduino H/W implementation of the same signal.? The developer intends this to be used for emergency comms with very low power field units.? He provided me with a prototype of the hardware implementation.? I do not think he designed the signal as an FT8 replacement, but there are some who are testing it as such.

Davd

On 12/6/24 07:07, K3EUI Barry via groups.io wrote:

Dave

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We who use THOR appreciate all of the work you put in to make it better.

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My experience using THOR22 on HF NBEMS nets (PaNBEMS, MidAtlantic NBEMS) on 80m and 40m in the early morning hours is that it can copy checkins much faster with fewer data loss than other modes.

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THOR has the advantage of being able to copy even if you are mistuned (something rookies often do).

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We found THOR11 works well if the band is crowded (like a RTTY contest) or if there is severe fading.

THOR22 is our common checkin mode, with THOR32 our common traffic mode.

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So how might THOR25 fit in our nets on HF?

We advise participating stations to turn off the digital squelch and to disable any “noise reduction” or “noise blankers” or notch filters in their modern radios.

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MFSK22 and 32 also work well, but if mistuned by a tone (15 Hz) we fail to copy.

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Many of us were wondering if any future work will be done to have the OFDM modes return?

We had a lot of experience with OFDM narrow modes on 80m and 40m and noted that if the S/N was not above some minimum value, we got lots of missed data.?

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And what about SCAMP?

A few of us have been playing with that new (alpha) mode on 80m and 40m.

SCAMP is interesting to watch - and very narrow bandwidth.

Is scamp competing with ft8 as a chat mode (slow speed)?

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agn, TU Dave

de k3eui. Barry

Pa NBEMS and Mid-Atlantic NBEMS net manager

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Re: MS apps under Ubuntu WINE

#53738

Yes , I fully agree . LM is also one of my favourite Linux distros as well as ZORIN? os ,also an Ubuntu derived distro.

Frank , EI7KS

Re: flrig 2.0.05 remote xml_client

#53737

... and with QDX, running 2.0.05 server compiled from source on 6.6.39-current-rockchip64 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jul 11 10:49:22 UTC 2024 aarch64 GNU/Linux

and client 2.0.04 from package on xubuntu 24.04. All speeds have been tried...

73 Anders

Re: MS apps under Ubuntu WINE

#53736

I find that ADIF Master and DXAtlas run quite nicely on WINE.  They are my remaining "indispensable" Windows apps.  I use Linux Mint in the shack daily and have not regretted the switch from Win11.

GL,
Wayne, W0ZW

Re: MS apps under Ubuntu WINE

#53734

Another recommendation for Crossover and this time for Linux.

t is as James said, a reasonable license fee, and it is solid and it works well. Even some complex Windows apps run on it. Another good thing about Crossover is that you get support from them. There were a few apps that needed special files to work, and they figured that out and got them going for me.

Rick Kunath, K9AO

Re: MS apps under Ubuntu WINE

#53733

Paul,

When Win 10 came out I moved to Mac but I still had a need professionally and personally for some windows applications. ?I used the Parallels solution for years but they too were big into money and their licensing sucks. ?

I recently moved to Crossover for Mac and love it. ?Crossover runs on Linux and the Crossover team is a major contributor to the Wine project. ?Yes, it cost me some money but their licensing is per user with multiple machines. ?To me it was worth the money for the ease of installation and the peace of mind. ?I run Winlink and VARA FM and Microsoft Visio with no issues and will be experimenting with some Motorola programming software. ?

Submitted for 'what it's worth' - worked well for me. ?And, BTW, I have a Mac Pro trash can running Mint and will be adding Crossover to it as well. ?Agree with Bob below - Mint is a really good solution.

73 de NA5RC

Re: MS apps under Ubuntu WINE

#53732

Paul,

I use Linux exclusively: a generic Ubuntu installation on my main workstation. I have used the native Linux Zoom client extensively, heavily, for work during the past several years -- without issue. I also used it for a CWOps class (with the same "native sound" tweak that people required on Windows boxes). I download the latest .deb straight from Zoom.

I use TSQL natively.

I use "qrq" for, I think, similar training as RufzXP.

And I've been using LibreOffice and its predecessors for more than 25 years now, including for work, graduate school, doctoral thesis, etc. It's solid and very capable. I just live with the fact that Microsoft doesn't want competitors to be open their documents with the formatting perfectly intact (and ask for a PDF if formatting matters).

73 de Todd W2TEF

Re: MS apps under Ubuntu WINE

#53731

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I would recommend MX Linux.

There's a really helpful Forum and many Hams using it.

It's also Debian-based (They also provide non-systemd and systemd options).

On 11/30/24 11:50, k4rfk via groups.io wrote:

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I agree with Dave, G?WBX that if you are having difficulties with Ubuntu then you should try LinuxMint, Cinnamon edition.? It is very friendly for those just getting into Linux.? Also for contesting you should look into NOT1MM, Linux Native app for contest logging.? Its "not" N1MM but it is still being developed and is doing a good job of duplicating N1MM for Linux, just not fully there yet.?

??? Also for contesting try to use TR4W and SD (super duper) both of which run very well under WINE in Linux and support almost all the contests out there.?

Bob, K4RFK

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Re: This is new

#53730

Configure > Xcvr > Rig IC-7100

Look for something like this:

/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_CP2102_USB_to_UART_Bridge_Controller_IC-7100_22001383_A-if00-port0

Baud 19200 (Set IC-7100 to match in Set > Connections > CI-V)

Re: MS apps under Ubuntu WINE

#53729

I agree with Dave, G?WBX that if you are having difficulties with Ubuntu then you should try LinuxMint, Cinnamon edition.? It is very friendly for those just getting into Linux.? Also for contesting you should look into NOT1MM, Linux Native app for contest logging.? Its "not" N1MM but it is still being developed and is doing a good job of duplicating N1MM for Linux, just not fully there yet.?

??? Also for contesting try to use TR4W and SD (super duper) both of which run very well under WINE in Linux and support almost all the contests out there.?

Bob, K4RFK

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Re: flrig 2.0.05.85 posted

#53728

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Philip, when you open a notarized version of an app, you’ll get:

Click on yes and it should open without further action.

Notarized version of Fllog-1.2.8 is here:

Let me know if you need anything else.

On Nov 30, 2024, at 5:04?AM, Philip, AC4O via groups.io <ac4o.philip@...> wrote:

Gary,?

As a test, I just now downloaded Fllog-1.2.8 VN.dmg from the W1HKJ site. At first I could not get it to open (could not be checked for malware, etc) , but then I went into Privacy and Security and said open anyway and then it worked.(So this work around is still good for now anyway.)

I had updated my MacOS to 15.1 the other day and all the programs that I had running on the old MacOS continued to work just fine. (Flrig, WSJT-X, etc) This test shows me that the reason they continued to work was that they had already been installed and opened in the previous MacOS. (They were non signed and notorized versions)

I did download the signed and notarized versions of the software that you had sent. I have not installed/opened them yet. I didn't want to rock the boat. but have them in a folder for backup at the moment.?

FYI, Antarctica is on the air. I made an FT8 contact with callsign Ri1ANE at Progress Base -69.396667 Latitude and 76.373333 Longitude. It was on 20m at 02:21 GMT on November 8th. Anyway, I thought that was cool. From a google search -?Progress is a Russian research station in Antarctica.?It is located at the Larsemann Hills antarctic oasis on the shore of Prydz Bay.

Thanks again,
Cheers,
Philip

On Nov 26, 2024, at 2:18?PM, Philip, AC4O via??<ac4o.philip@...> wrote:

Gary,

Thanks for the notarized updated Flrig.

FYI, I did decide to bite the bullet and update my MacOS to 15.1 from 14.

It turns out that all my apps Flrig, Fldigi, JS8call, WSJT-X, GridTracker2, and RUMlogNG continue to work.

This may be due to the fact that they had already been up and running on my previous MacOS, I am not sure.

I have not tried to download additional apps and install them yet, but wanted to mention the old ones are still working.

Thanks and 73s
Philip?
AC4O

On Nov 25, 2024, at 6:16?PM, Gary Rogers, KO3F via groups.io <cgaryrogers190@...> wrote:

Flirig-2.0.05.85 notarized for MacOS 15 is here:

On Nov 25, 2024, at 10:09?AM, Dave, W1HKJ via groups.io <w1hkj@...> wrote:

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See readme.txt for most recent changes.
73, David
W1HKJ

Re: flrig 2.0.05.85 posted

#53727

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Gary,?

As a test, I just now downloaded Fllog-1.2.8 VN.dmg from the W1HKJ site. At first I could not get it to open (could not be checked for malware, etc) , but then I went into Privacy and Security and said open anyway and then it worked.(So this work around is still good for now anyway.)

I had updated my MacOS to 15.1 the other day and all the programs that I had running on the old MacOS continued to work just fine. (Flrig, WSJT-X, etc) This test shows me that the reason they continued to work was that they had already been installed and opened in the previous MacOS. (They were non signed and notorized versions)

I did download the signed and notarized versions of the software that you had sent. I have not installed/opened them yet. I didn't want to rock the boat. but have them in a folder for backup at the moment.?

FYI, Antarctica is on the air. I made an FT8 contact with callsign Ri1ANE at Progress Base -69.396667 Latitude and 76.373333 Longitude. It was on 20m at 02:21 GMT on November 8th. Anyway, I thought that was cool. From a google search -?Progress is a Russian research station in Antarctica.?It is located at the Larsemann Hills antarctic oasis on the shore of Prydz Bay.

Thanks again,

Cheers,

Philip

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On Nov 26, 2024, at 2:18?PM, Philip, AC4O via groups.io <ac4o.philip@...> wrote:

Gary,

Thanks for the notarized updated Flrig.

FYI, I did decide to bite the bullet and update my MacOS to 15.1 from 14.

It turns out that all my apps Flrig, Fldigi, JS8call, WSJT-X, GridTracker2, and RUMlogNG continue to work.

This may be due to the fact that they had already been up and running on my previous MacOS, I am not sure.

I have not tried to download additional apps and install them yet, but wanted to mention the old ones are still working.

Thanks and 73s
Philip?
AC4O

On Nov 25, 2024, at 6:16?PM, Gary Rogers, KO3F via groups.io <cgaryrogers190@...> wrote:

Flirig-2.0.05.85 notarized for MacOS 15 is here:

On Nov 25, 2024, at 10:09?AM, Dave, W1HKJ via groups.io <w1hkj@...> wrote:

at?
See readme.txt for most recent changes.
73, David
W1HKJ