Re: Cable for FTDX10 + Z11-Pro 2
A note to Yaesu support will
give you your verification, either phone or email.
73,
Kent
K9ZTV
On 1/3/2023 10:14 PM, JeffH - W4JEW
wrote:
... which pins should I connect to on the Mini-DIN 8-pin
connector? I'm guessing the Tuner Sense and either GND or TX GND,
but wanted to verify first.
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Re: Cable for FTDX10 + Z11-Pro 2
Hi, I have been studying the AT1000 manual and this forum prior to a possible purchase and venture to suggest that the yaesu 8pin tuner ports do not seem to have the ”tx req” needed to allow tuning by pressing tune on the ldg atu, hence why the linear port is used for ldg YACC cables. I will be making up a YACC ?cable for my FTDX3000 using ?a DB15 male plug ( 2 row, ?not “hi density” 3 row) from the Linear port to ldg tuner and using either the transceiver’s Tuner port ?tx gnd ?and gnd to my linear amp or soldering an additional lead to the linear port DB15 plug tx gnd and gnd (and alc if needed) for the linear amp. I do not understand the meaning or function of all the Yaesu Tuner port pins that LDG seem not to use (but that some MFJ units do use that simulate a Yaesu ATU enough to allow tuning by pressing the transceiver’s tune button)? In contrast the LDG tuner’s seem to need the “tx req” connection to tell the transceiver to transmit CW (at the tuning power set in the transceiver menu) when you press tune on the ATU. Any comments please? 73s
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On 4 Jan 2023, at 13:25, Gregor NW7GO <Talk.to.gregorh@...> wrote:
?The Y-ACC-2 cable is intended to go into the Linear port on the FXdx10, which is 10 pin. I would think using the same-named pins on the 8-pin tuner port would work, but I haven’t tried. ?If you can find one, the Y-PAC-1200 cable (long discontinued I think) works and also powers the tuner. PA1RAF has a video on YT giving the pinout of this cable.?
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Re: Cable for FTDX10 + Z11-Pro 2
Thanks, Gregor for letting us know. I’ll check out the YouTube video as soon as I can and make the cable in my shop. I will also let our LDG friends know so they can clarify the uncertainty. They clearly mention its use for the rig—tuner cable, not the linear! Fortunately, unlike the rare ten pin version, eight pin DIN connectors are widely available. Already have the 3 connector jack on the other end. Will report back here as well.
In fairness, both LDG and MFJ have a lot of confusion swirling around the internet around various tuner cabling setups, made worse by recent supply chain problems. It’s hard for small companies to keep up their literature up-to-date with the many rig setups on the market. Thankfully, forums like this help fill in the gaps. ?
Thanks/73, Steve KE4LC
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Re: Cable for FTDX10 + Z11-Pro 2
The Y-ACC-2 cable is intended to go into the Linear port on the FXdx10, which is 10 pin. I would think using the same-named pins on the 8-pin tuner port would work, but I haven’t tried. ?If you can find one, the Y-PAC-1200 cable (long discontinued I think) works and also powers the tuner. PA1RAF has a video on YT giving the pinout of this cable.?
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Re: Cable for FTDX10 + Z11-Pro 2
Hi Jeff,
I am setting up a new FTDX10. Tuner cables are unavailable/backordered, so I thought I would simply make my own. Ten pin DIN’s are also hard to find at decent prices. Just as I was ready to hit “buy” on Amazon for an inexpensive video/audio cable with a rare ten pin DIN on one end that I could modify to meet the tuner cable need, I noticed the same thing about the 8 vs 10 pin DIN tuner cable!! The FTDX10 manual clearly shows 8 pins for the tuner port, yet all the comments on the web and LDG literature strangely/consistently talk about ten pins for the tuner cable entire FTDX line.. This also leaves me, like you, with the correct 8 pin DIN wiring question.. Wondering if Yaesu made changes on new FTDx10’s?
73, Steve KE4LC
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Re: Cable for FTDX10 + Z11-Pro 2
Hello - it's me again... I went back through the Yaesu documentation and found that the tuner port is actually an 8-pin Mini-DIN on the FT-DX10. The documentation for the Y-ACC-2 cable shows a 10-pin Mini-DIN. The diagram for the Y-ACC-2 specifies which pin to connect to which sleeve on the 3.5m connector but doesn't specify what the pins correspond to on the radio side. Taking this diagram into consideration, which pins should I connect to on the Mini-DIN 8-pin connector? I'm guessing the Tuner Sense and either GND or TX GND, but wanted to verify first.  Thanks!
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Re: Cable for FTDX10 + Z11-Pro 2
Ah ha! That was going to be my next question! I was looking around for the cable and it appears to be on back order everywhere I checked.?
I have a spare 8 pin connector and a TRS connector. Seems easy enough!?
Thanks so much!
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Re: Cable for FTDX10 + Z11-Pro 2
Jeff,
Yes, the Y-ACC-2 is the right cable according to the DXEngineering
website which also states:
"FTDX10 ??? Z-11ProII ??? Connects to transceiver TUNER port,
enabled in menu: Operation, General, Tuner Select, set to EXT. This
action disables RS232C port. "??? BUT... the cable has not been
available for several months... perhaps discontinued.
However, you can make one using the information in the group's Files
--> LDG Cables 2022.zip.?? After downloading the zip file and
extracting the files within it open the "Y-ACC-2 CABLE.PDF".
Enjoy...
73,
Ed - ad7gr
On 1/2/2023 2:54 AM, JeffH - W4JEW
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Hello,
I bit the bullet this past weekend and bought the FTDX10. I
forgot to pick up the adapter cable for my Z11 Pro 2 tuner.?
I’ve been searching the message archive. I saw mention of the?Y-ACC-2 but I’m unable
to find it on HRO’s website.?
Is the?Y-ACC-2 definitely the
right cable?
Thanks in advance!
-JeffH - W4JEW
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Cable for FTDX10 + Z11-Pro 2
Hello,
I bit the bullet this past weekend and bought the FTDX10. I forgot to pick up the adapter cable for my Z11 Pro 2 tuner.?
I’ve been searching the message archive. I saw mention of the?Y-ACC-2 but I’m unable to find it on HRO’s website.?
Is the?Y-ACC-2 definitely the right cable?
Thanks in advance!
-JeffH - W4JEW
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Re: How to remove the LDG-IC-PAC cable from an ICOM 7300
I ended up using a flathead screw driver to lift the tabs on the plastic adapter on the LDG cable. Once I was able to disconnect it, I used a small set of diagonal cutters to trim out some of the plastic on the adapter so it’s only held in place with friction.?
My IC-7300 has been in my home office, so I’m not concerned with accidentally disconnecting the cable. Everything just stays right where I put it.?
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Re: correct cable for FDX3000
Carey;
?Got my terminology confused a bit there; sorry about that. I started out with a home-made Y-ACC-3 cable (from the online print), then purchased the Ameritron DB-DB15Y cable for the amp. I took the DB15 connector off my home-made tuner cable, disassembled the DB15 on the Ameritron cable, and wired the second cable into that DB15 connection. The Y-ACC-3 cable uses pins 11 (TX_REQ) and 3 (Ground) on the DB15 connector. I had to double up on ground (Pin 3), but Pin 11 is unused by the Ameritron interface. So I have two cables coming out of the DB15 connector: the molded 9 pin cable to the amplifier and a two conductor cable to a 3.5MM jack, which plugs into the tuner. I don’t see the TX_REQ signal surfaced on any other external connector, at least according to the connector pinout diagram I have.
?I’m not using the ARB-704 box, since the ALS-606 has most of that functionality built in (versus the ALS-600, for instance).?
?I am working on a small lock-out circuit which will inhibit the amp during tuning, whatever the position of the Standby/Operate switch. I’ve got it prototyped, just have to fabricate it into a little box with a couple of status LEDs and verify that it works as intended. That will require yet another minor modification to the Ameritron interface cable, but I have good confidence it will work as desired. I will then be able to push the “Tune” button on the AT-600 at any time, and have the radio run a tuneup cycle with the amplifier bypassed. I like simple…
73 -=[ Steve ]=- KE0VDC
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Steve, are you by any chance using the ARB-704 interface? I have an old AL-811 amp that I bought from a local guy who upgraded. I said the Y-ACC-3 uses the Cat control? DB9 in error, the pin out in the files section of this group shows it using the DB15, for the linear connection, which is the one that the interface plugs into. Is this the one that you custom made??
Carey
KK5S
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Re: correct cable for FDX3000
Steve, are you by any chance using the ARB-704 interface? I have an old AL-811 amp that I bought from a local guy who upgraded. I said the Y-ACC-3 uses the Cat control? DB9 in error, the pin out in the files section of this group shows it using the DB15, for the linear connection, which is the one that the interface plugs into. Is this the one that you custom made??
Carey
KK5S
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Re: FDT710 work with LDG Z-100A
Here's the IC-108 cable spec from LDG.? This works with my 710 plug the 3/8 connector into Rem and plug the 8-pin din in tuner/amp.? Set the menu to use an external tuner instead of internal and set the other selection (I don't recall the name at the moment) to amp (not tuner).
73 - David, AG4F?
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Re: correct cable for FDX3000
Carey;
?I have exactly the same setup, with an AT600ProII, and FTdx3000, and an amplifier. The Y-ACC-3 will do exactly what it says it will do; drive a radio tune cycle (CW, key-down, 5 watts output) from the ’Tune’ button on the AT600. My situation was slightly complicated by the fact that my chosen amp (Ameritron ALS-606) also uses the DB9 connector to interface with the FTdx3000. My solution was to create a customized cable which encompasses both the AT600 and the ALS-606 needs into one DB9 connector. Works like a charm. (There are no conflicts as to which DB9 pins each one requires.)
?If you dig out the schematic for the FTdx3000, you will find that several of the signals are connected to multiple connector pins, so you have a bit of flexibility as to which connector you choose to grab the required signal from.?
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I'm curious and a little confused about which cable is correct to run the AT600Pro on My FTDX 3000. I bought this tuner to go with an amp and without the amp it's not needed, the internal tuner handles everything just fine for out of the box power.?It appears that the Y-ACC-3 is the recommended cable for the FTDX 3000 but I'm asking, WHY? The Y-ACC-3 uses the 9 pin CAT control connector instead of the 8 pin Tuner jack on the back of the radio. The Y-ACC-2 has the 8 pin tuner connector.? Is this correct or a misprint since the LDG site went down and what's left is useless. The FTDX-1200 uses the Y-ACC-2 cable and most things I find if they work on the 1200 they work on the 3000; so it doesn't really make sense why a newer model radio had to go backwards to the CAT control, to run the tuner, instead of the Tuner port. But I'm really asking is why the cat control jack instead of the tuner jack? It doesn't make sense to me, not to mention that no one has had LDG cables for months and they show 6 more months lead time everywhere.?I can make one with the right Pin out but I'd like to find the why's and how's to be sure I make the right cable.
Carey
KK5S
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correct cable for FDX3000
I'm curious and a little confused about which cable is correct to run the AT600Pro on My FTDX 3000. I bought this tuner to go with an amp and without the amp it's not needed, the internal tuner handles everything just fine for out of the box power.?It appears that the Y-ACC-3 is the recommended cable for the FTDX 3000 but I'm asking, WHY? The Y-ACC-3 uses the 9 pin CAT control connector instead of the 8 pin Tuner jack on the back of the radio. The Y-ACC-2 has the 8 pin tuner connector.? Is this correct or a misprint since the LDG site went down and what's left is useless. The FTDX-1200 uses the Y-ACC-2 cable and most things I find if they work on the 1200 they work on the 3000; so it doesn't really make sense why a newer model radio had to go backwards to the CAT control, to run the tuner, instead of the Tuner port. But I'm really asking is why the cat control jack instead of the tuner jack? It doesn't make sense to me, not to mention that no one has had LDG cables for months and they show 6 more months lead time everywhere.?I can make one with the right Pin out but I'd like to find the why's and how's to be sure I make the right cable.
Carey
KK5S
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Re: FDT710 work with LDG Z-100A
Do you know if the ic-108 cable will work with the
?Z11-Pro II and the FT-710 AESS ?
Thanks,
Dale N3JUO
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Re: RU-49:1 Any plans to bring it back ?
I don't think the tuner is?finding?good?settings in full auto. Manual says that for a full tune SWR must be over whatever is set. My tuner will not go lower than 1.7, yet 1.1 SWR is on the scale.? How can I lower SWR below 1.7?
Your advice to not hold the tune button down until the bars go together works great!
Paul KG5TBT
Thank you for the info. In full auto mode I am releasing the tune button and getting great results. Just worked Canada, Scotland, and Northern Ireland. Paul KG5TBT
Assuming have the tuner in full auto tuning mode you,? you should be
able to just start transmitting and it will seek the learned memory
channel automatically.
If you are running in semi auto mode you don't want to hold the button
until the bars come together as that is indicating you want it to do a
full tune.? Instead release the tune button in about 1-2 seconds and it
should immediately find the match from memory.
PS check your manual for "Manual Memory Tune".
Leonard K. Pennock
AD7AS
Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
On 12/30/22 11:36 AM, Paul Palmer wrote:
> I have an LDG 600 Pro II tuner. Every?time I change bands I put the xcvr
> into AM mode, hold down the Tune button and press the transmit button on
> the mic, when the?bars on the pwr display come together I release the
> Tune button and keep holding the mic transmit until the clicking stops.
> Then I do a trial xmit to verify a good tune. If it's good i press Func
> Tune to save that tune. My question is how do I _/permanently/ _save
> that setting for the next day? I leave the tuner plugged in to the ac
> but turned off.
> Thanks, Paul, KG5TBT
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 12:12 PM VA3SYS <i0x915@...
> <mailto:i0x915@...>> wrote:
>
>? ? ?I’ve watched 49:1 unun disappear from the shelves over past year,
>? ? ?its also gone from the manuals now as well. any particular reason to
>? ? ?get rid of it ?
>? ? ?are there any plans to bring it back ?
>
>? ? ?thanks
>
>
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Re: RU-49:1 Any plans to bring it back ?
Thank you for the info. In full auto mode I am releasing the tune button and getting great results. Just worked Canada, Scotland, and Northern Ireland. Paul KG5TBT
Assuming have the tuner in full auto tuning mode you,? you should be
able to just start transmitting and it will seek the learned memory
channel automatically.
If you are running in semi auto mode you don't want to hold the button
until the bars come together as that is indicating you want it to do a
full tune.? Instead release the tune button in about 1-2 seconds and it
should immediately find the match from memory.
PS check your manual for "Manual Memory Tune".
Leonard K. Pennock
AD7AS
Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
On 12/30/22 11:36 AM, Paul Palmer wrote:
> I have an LDG 600 Pro II tuner. Every?time I change bands I put the xcvr
> into AM mode, hold down the Tune button and press the transmit button on
> the mic, when the?bars on the pwr display come together I release the
> Tune button and keep holding the mic transmit until the clicking stops.
> Then I do a trial xmit to verify a good tune. If it's good i press Func
> Tune to save that tune. My question is how do I _/permanently/ _save
> that setting for the next day? I leave the tuner plugged in to the ac
> but turned off.
> Thanks, Paul, KG5TBT
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 12:12 PM VA3SYS <i0x915@...
> <mailto:i0x915@...>> wrote:
>
>? ? ?I’ve watched 49:1 unun disappear from the shelves over past year,
>? ? ?its also gone from the manuals now as well. any particular reason to
>? ? ?get rid of it ?
>? ? ?are there any plans to bring it back ?
>
>? ? ?thanks
>
>
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Re: FDT710 work with LDG Z-100A
Hi Wyatt.
Many thanks for you comprehensive reply.
I will try and find a stock in the U.K.
All the best.
73's
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Same here Dave. Some hints from fellow hints you may find here? /g/ldgelectronics/topic/95909285#916?Nothing helped for me so far. I have the impression that the CAT control of the FT-818 involved in the auto tune process does not work properly. But no way to really debug that unless you hook a data analyser to the Microcontroller.
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JeffH - W4JEW
Ed - ad7gr