You don't seem to have any holes in the pads

you may also find it easier to see if you turn off the outline mode

ANdy


On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 11:23:38 +0100
"Lctech Lctech via groups.io" <lctech3000@...> wrote:

Hello,

I have a problem with manual but also automatic route track design.

As in the attachments, the design rule checker shows some errors. I tried
sofar to change the values of the erroneous space in net class of the Board
Configuration.

Error still persists. Could I try something else ?

Thank you.

Regards,

On Mon, Dec 30, 2024, 11:20 Lctech Lctech <lctech3000@...> wrote:

Hello,

I have a problem with manual but also automatic route track design.

As in the attachments, the design rule checker shows some errors. I tried
sofar to change the values of the erroneous space in net class of the Board
Configuration.

Error still persists. Could I try something else ?

Thank you.

Regards,

To me it looks like pins 3 and 4 of SW1 are not connected to anything in
the schematic, and therefore shouldn't be connected to anything on the
PCB. If SW1 is one of those where 1 and 4 are connected internally,
and 2 and 3 are connected internally, you still have to have all four
pins on the schematic. A convenient way to do this would be to create
a switch symbol with pin 4 overlaid on pin 1, and pin 3 overlaid on pin
2. That way your switch only appears to have two pins on the
schematic, but on the PCB it has all four, with the internal connections
automagically present (you still have to connect the internally
connected pins with tracks, as you appear to be attempting to do).

Regards,

Robert

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It's very easy now.

Open the file in the footprint editor, check and adjust if required. Then
select save as. This will allow you to choose the library into which you
want to save the footprint.

The same process applies to the symbols using the symbol editor.

As with all CAD systems you should never use any provided libs directly,
rather you should copy the libs and symbols into your own directory
structure, after checking that they are as you want. This protects you
against changes to libs that you don't know about should you update the
provided libs or kicad.

For 3d models I think you just copy them into the 3d directory.

Also note that kicad has project specific libs as well, so any custom
adjusted parts can be stored there i.e. you might relabel the pins on a
microcontroller to have meaningful names for that project.

You can find out where kicad has put things with the preferences >
configure paths command.

Andy







On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 09:40:59 -0500
"Frederick R. Vobbe" <fvobbe@...> wrote:

This is helpful!? I'll have to read up on how to properly import these.
I appreciate this good intel. Never knew about the ECAD but I can see
how it will be very helpful, rather than needing to redraw everything
from scratch.

On 12/25/2024 09:08, Dallas N4DDM via groups.io wrote:

Frederick,
I took your Phonenix part number and searched for it on Mouser...?
Just below the Datasheet link is a link to ECAD Model where you can
get Schematic Symbols, PCB Footprints, and sometimes 3D models if they
are not in the vast collection that comes with KiCAD...

You are in luck as all 3 are available as a FREE download...
There are YouTube videos that show downloading and adding these
libraries to your design.
73 Dallas N4DDM

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This is helpful!? I'll have to read up on how to properly import these. I appreciate this good intel. Never knew about the ECAD but I can see how it will be very helpful, rather than needing to redraw everything from scratch.

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Right now I'm on Windows 10-pro.? I'll be upgrading to 11-pro in February, when I change out several PCs.

The only symbols/footprints I have installed are those which came with the download installation of the distribution.? The Omron relay seems to not be included.

Interesting that I'm not one of the oldest.? In other groups I seem to be in the minority.? Perhaps it's because the type of work is not what younger people find interest in.

Merry Christmas!? Fred

Hi All thanks for your tips,

Barry 75

On Wed, 25 Dec 2024, 02:26 Tony Casey via , <tony=[email protected]> wrote:

On 24/12/2024 20:24, Frederick R. Vobbe wrote:

I'm very new to KI, but used Eagle a long time ago when I was still in practice.? At 71 years old, I'm getting back into the swing of making boards for my hobby.

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Is there a repository for symbols and footprints for KI?

?

My first attempt at using the program is to design a relay switching board and I need to find a symbol and footprint for a Phoenix terminal block (header), 3-pos, 90-deg, 5.08mm.?? (Phoenix p/n: 1757488)

You don't mention what operating system you are using. There is a large repository of symbols, footprints and 3D models. I'm slightly surprised you don't already have it installed.

BTW, you're not the oldest around here. Not by some way.

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Hi All thanks for your tips,

Barry 75

I'm not a moderator on this group, but if I were, I would mildly rebuke you for replying in a thread and changing the subject. This does not create a new topic and merely messes up message threads for those of us that use email threads to follow topics.

If you want to comment on a new topic, starting a new thread is the correct netiquette.

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On 12/25/24 01:39, barry sandeman via groups.io wrote:

Hi All thanks for your tips,

Barry 75

On Wed, 25 Dec 2024, 02:26 Tony Casey via groups.io, <tony=
[email protected]> wrote:

On 24/12/2024 20:24, Frederick R. Vobbe wrote:

I'm very new to KI, but used Eagle a long time ago when I was still in
practice. At 71 years old, I'm getting back into the swing of making
boards for my hobby.

Is there a repository for symbols and footprints for KI?

My first attempt at using the program is to design a relay switching board
and I need to find a symbol and footprint for a Phoenix terminal block
(header), 3-pos, 90-deg, 5.08mm. (Phoenix p/n: 1757488)

You don't mention what operating system you are using. There is a large
repository of symbols, footprints and 3D models. I'm slightly surprised you
don't already have it installed.

BTW, you're not the oldest around here. Not by some way.

Neither am I, Gene, @ 90.? A little closer perhaps.

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I'm very new to KI, but used Eagle a long time ago when I was still in practice.? At 71 years old, I'm getting back into the swing of making boards for my hobby.

?

Is there a repository for symbols and footprints for KI?

?

My first attempt at using the program is to design a relay switching board and I need to find a symbol and footprint for a Phoenix terminal block (header), 3-pos, 90-deg, 5.08mm.?? (Phoenix p/n: 1757488)

You don't mention what operating system you are using. There is a large repository of symbols, footprints and 3D models. I'm slightly surprised you don't already have it installed.

BTW, you're not the oldest around here. Not by some way.

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tony

Kicad comes with a huge library, and as chris says it's quite easy to
make the footprints and symbols you need.

However kicad has gained so much traction now that the major
component vendors, mouser, digikey etc. are including kicad
footprints as such like in their data downloads.
Very often the 3d model is also there.

Andy


On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 11:24:07 -0800
"Frederick R. Vobbe" <fvobbe@...> wrote:

I'm very new to KI, but used Eagle a long time ago when I was still in practice.? At 71 years old, I'm getting back into the swing of making boards for my hobby.

Is there a repository for symbols and footprints for KI?

My first attempt at using the program is to design a relay switching board and I need to find a symbol and footprint for a Phoenix terminal block (header), 3-pos, 90-deg, 5.08mm.?? (Phoenix p/n: 1757488)

Hi,

Welcome to KiCad!

A lot of symbols and footprints are installed by default along with
KiCad. SOMETIMES what you need will be in there - but when it is not, it
is quite straightforward to

* create a new symbol and/or footprint as you need, or
* modify existing ones, and save them as a new one, particularly if they
are 'close' to what you need.

=)

Check KiCad's online help for all the details on how to accomplish these
tasks.

Hi,

I'm trying to create a P-shaped pad by editing a pad as graphic shapes.
I've created the required outline as a set of straight lines and arcs,
but when I convert these to a filled polygon, the arcs are approximated
as two straight lines. Is there a way increase the number of straight
lines beyond two, or do I have to do the approximation myself?

Regards,

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I installed v8.06 and installed kikit via PCM then when I tried to run the PCB editor I go the prompt to
install kikit via the Kicad command prompt as usual.

I entered the command "pip install kikit" and then tried to run "kikit --help" and got the following ...

? File "C:\Users\Bob\Documents\KiCad\8.0\3rdparty\Python311\site-packages\kikit\common.py", line 13, in <module>
??? from shapely.geometry import LinearRing
? File "C:\Users\Bob\Documents\KiCad\8.0\3rdparty\Python311\site-packages\shapely\__init__.py", line 13, in <module>
??? from shapely.lib import GEOSException? # NOQA
??? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ImportError: numpy.core.multiarray failed to import

C:\Users\Bob\Documents\KiCad\8.0>

Is there any way around this ???

Dave

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That's it! Who would have guessed? Thanks very much.

I had a similar problem until I realised that I had to hit the "Export" button at the bottom of that window.

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I hope that helps?

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Luke

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