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Re: Footprint for trimmer potentiometer

 

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Thanks, Reinier. I am probably odd, but I do not like video instructions. I will study the KiCad manuals and see if I can find the 5 mm preset pot for sale by those suppliers.

On 2024-04-11 08:58, Reinier Gerritsen wrote:
Creating a footprint is very similar to "normal" pcb design. There are probably tons of youtube video that will show you how to do it if you are afraid of trying yourself..
Or just start with an existing footprint, "save as" you new name (create your own library!), and modify pad position, dimensions etc. Designing or modifying footprints is really something a pcb designer should know.
By the way, big resellers like Mouser and Digikey have CAD models of their parts, also in KiCad format. Schematic symbols. footprints and 3D models.
Library management can be a bit difficult to master. You'll need to add your own library. I would suggest to use Onedrive of similar for you own libraries. That makes it very easy to keep libraries (and pcb designs) in sync between multiple computers.
Success, Reinier

Op 10-4-2024 om 20:21 schreef John Woodgate:

I rarely make printed boards, but I need to in this case. I am using version 8.01. I have identified footprints for all of the components except for a 1 kohm trimmer potentiometer. This has? 5.08 mm spacing between the end pins and 5.08 mm spacing of the slider pin from the line of the end pins. The footprint library seems to be based on the user choosing parts from a very limited number of suppliers and knowing the exact part number. I can see no 'generic' footprints at all, but I seem to remember that earlier versions of KiCad had 'generic' footprints. Is the only solution to create a footprint?

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Creating a footprint is very similar to "normal" pcb design. There are probably tons of youtube video that will show you how to do it if you are afraid of trying yourself..
Or just start with an existing footprint, "save as" you new name (create your own library!), and modify pad position, dimensions etc. Designing or modifying footprints is really something a pcb designer should know.
By the way, big resellers like Mouser and Digikey have CAD models of their parts, also in KiCad format. Schematic symbols. footprints and 3D models.
Library management can be a bit difficult to master. You'll need to add your own library. I would suggest to use Onedrive of similar for you own libraries. That makes it very easy to keep libraries (and pcb designs) in sync between multiple computers.
Success, Reinier

Op 10-4-2024 om 20:21 schreef John Woodgate:

I rarely make printed boards, but I need to in this case. I am using version 8.01. I have identified footprints for all of the components except for a 1 kohm trimmer potentiometer. This has? 5.08 mm spacing between the end pins and 5.08 mm spacing of the slider pin from the line of the end pins. The footprint library seems to be based on the user choosing parts from a very limited number of suppliers and knowing the exact part number. I can see no 'generic' footprints at all, but I seem to remember that earlier versions of KiCad had 'generic' footprints. Is the only solution to create a footprint?

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Re: Footprint for trimmer potentiometer

 

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It's a 5 mm square preset. No room.

On 2024-04-10 22:37, brian wrote:
Part numbers are generally stamped into pots.

On 2024-04-10 5:10 p.m., John Woodgate wrote:

Thank you, but I don't think I can find the part number. I bought these parts quite a long time ago.

On 2024-04-10 19:31, brian wrote:
If you know the part number google search part number Kicad footprint. There are numerous websites which work with distributors, vendors, and so on to create symbols, footprints, and 3d models which you can download and import.

Usually pots are generic so odds are very high a pre-existing example is out there.



On 2024-04-10 2:21 p.m., John Woodgate wrote:

I rarely make printed boards, but I need to in this case. I am using version 8.01. I have identified footprints for all of the components except for a 1 kohm trimmer potentiometer. This has? 5.08 mm spacing between the end pins and 5.08 mm spacing of the slider pin from the line of the end pins. The footprint library seems to be based on the user choosing parts from a very limited number of suppliers and knowing the exact part number. I can see no 'generic' footprints at all, but I seem to remember that earlier versions of KiCad had 'generic' footprints. Is the only solution to create a footprint?

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Part numbers are generally stamped into pots.

On 2024-04-10 5:10 p.m., John Woodgate wrote:

Thank you, but I don't think I can find the part number. I bought these parts quite a long time ago.

On 2024-04-10 19:31, brian wrote:
If you know the part number google search part number Kicad footprint. There are numerous websites which work with distributors, vendors, and so on to create symbols, footprints, and 3d models which you can download and import.

Usually pots are generic so odds are very high a pre-existing example is out there.



On 2024-04-10 2:21 p.m., John Woodgate wrote:

I rarely make printed boards, but I need to in this case. I am using version 8.01. I have identified footprints for all of the components except for a 1 kohm trimmer potentiometer. This has? 5.08 mm spacing between the end pins and 5.08 mm spacing of the slider pin from the line of the end pins. The footprint library seems to be based on the user choosing parts from a very limited number of suppliers and knowing the exact part number. I can see no 'generic' footprints at all, but I seem to remember that earlier versions of KiCad had 'generic' footprints. Is the only solution to create a footprint?

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Re: Footprint for trimmer potentiometer

 

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Thank you.

On 2024-04-10 22:29, CW via groups.io wrote:
You may find some parts on a millimetre pitch (5 mm, 2 mm) rather than 
'inches converted to millimetres' (i.e. 0.1 inch as 2.54 mm).

On 4/10/2024 2:21 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
I do use a digital slide-gauge to measure parts. But you mention? '0.1 
inch': is there a new 'standard' pitch unit now?

On 2024-04-10 22:13, CW via groups.io wrote:
If they are older parts they are likely(?) to be on a 0.1 inch pitch
maybe. That, and a pair of calipers, would make it easy to make a
sufficiently good footprint, I'd suggest.

On 4/10/2024 2:10 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
Thank you, but I don't think I can find the part number. I bought these
parts quite a long time ago.

On 2024-04-10 19:31, brian wrote:
If you know the part number google search part number Kicad footprint.
There are numerous websites which work with distributors, vendors, and
so on to create symbols, footprints, and 3d models which you can
download and import.

Usually pots are generic so odds are very high a pre-existing example
is out there.



On 2024-04-10 2:21 p.m., John Woodgate wrote:
I rarely make printed boards, but I need to in this case. I am using
version 8.01. I have identified footprints for all of the components
except for a 1 kohm trimmer potentiometer. This has? 5.08 mm spacing
between the end pins and 5.08 mm spacing of the slider pin from the
line of the end pins. The footprint library seems to be based on the
user choosing parts from a very limited number of suppliers and
knowing the exact part number. I can see no 'generic' footprints at
all, but I seem to remember that earlier versions of KiCad had
'generic' footprints. Is the only solution to create a footprint?

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Re: Footprint for trimmer potentiometer

 

You may find some parts on a millimetre pitch (5 mm, 2 mm) rather than
'inches converted to millimetres' (i.e. 0.1 inch as 2.54 mm).

On 4/10/2024 2:21 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
I do use a digital slide-gauge to measure parts. But you mention? '0.1
inch': is there a new 'standard' pitch unit now?

On 2024-04-10 22:13, CW via groups.io wrote:
If they are older parts they are likely(?) to be on a 0.1 inch pitch
maybe. That, and a pair of calipers, would make it easy to make a
sufficiently good footprint, I'd suggest.

On 4/10/2024 2:10 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
Thank you, but I don't think I can find the part number. I bought these
parts quite a long time ago.

On 2024-04-10 19:31, brian wrote:
If you know the part number google search part number Kicad footprint.
There are numerous websites which work with distributors, vendors, and
so on to create symbols, footprints, and 3d models which you can
download and import.

Usually pots are generic so odds are very high a pre-existing example
is out there.



On 2024-04-10 2:21 p.m., John Woodgate wrote:
I rarely make printed boards, but I need to in this case. I am using
version 8.01. I have identified footprints for all of the components
except for a 1 kohm trimmer potentiometer. This has? 5.08 mm spacing
between the end pins and 5.08 mm spacing of the slider pin from the
line of the end pins. The footprint library seems to be based on the
user choosing parts from a very limited number of suppliers and
knowing the exact part number. I can see no 'generic' footprints at
all, but I seem to remember that earlier versions of KiCad had
'generic' footprints. Is the only solution to create a footprint?

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Re: Footprint for trimmer potentiometer

 

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I do use a digital slide-gauge to measure parts. But you mention? '0.1 inch': is there a new 'standard' pitch unit now?

On 2024-04-10 22:13, CW via groups.io wrote:
If they are older parts they are likely(?) to be on a 0.1 inch pitch 
maybe. That, and a pair of calipers, would make it easy to make a 
sufficiently good footprint, I'd suggest.

On 4/10/2024 2:10 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
Thank you, but I don't think I can find the part number. I bought these 
parts quite a long time ago.

On 2024-04-10 19:31, brian wrote:
If you know the part number google search part number Kicad footprint. 
There are numerous websites which work with distributors, vendors, and 
so on to create symbols, footprints, and 3d models which you can 
download and import.

Usually pots are generic so odds are very high a pre-existing example 
is out there.



On 2024-04-10 2:21 p.m., John Woodgate wrote:
I rarely make printed boards, but I need to in this case. I am using 
version 8.01. I have identified footprints for all of the components 
except for a 1 kohm trimmer potentiometer. This has? 5.08 mm spacing 
between the end pins and 5.08 mm spacing of the slider pin from the 
line of the end pins. The footprint library seems to be based on the 
user choosing parts from a very limited number of suppliers and 
knowing the exact part number. I can see no 'generic' footprints at 
all, but I seem to remember that earlier versions of KiCad had 
'generic' footprints. Is the only solution to create a footprint?

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Re: Footprint for trimmer potentiometer

 

If they are older parts they are likely(?) to be on a 0.1 inch pitch
maybe. That, and a pair of calipers, would make it easy to make a
sufficiently good footprint, I'd suggest.

On 4/10/2024 2:10 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
Thank you, but I don't think I can find the part number. I bought these
parts quite a long time ago.

On 2024-04-10 19:31, brian wrote:
If you know the part number google search part number Kicad footprint.
There are numerous websites which work with distributors, vendors, and
so on to create symbols, footprints, and 3d models which you can
download and import.

Usually pots are generic so odds are very high a pre-existing example
is out there.



On 2024-04-10 2:21 p.m., John Woodgate wrote:

I rarely make printed boards, but I need to in this case. I am using
version 8.01. I have identified footprints for all of the components
except for a 1 kohm trimmer potentiometer. This has? 5.08 mm spacing
between the end pins and 5.08 mm spacing of the slider pin from the
line of the end pins. The footprint library seems to be based on the
user choosing parts from a very limited number of suppliers and
knowing the exact part number. I can see no 'generic' footprints at
all, but I seem to remember that earlier versions of KiCad had
'generic' footprints. Is the only solution to create a footprint?

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Re: Footprint for trimmer potentiometer

 

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Thank you. I will study the creation process.

On 2024-04-10 19:28, CW via groups.io wrote:
The preferred solution is to create your own footprint for the part you 
wish to use. Sometimes you can find an existing footprint that is close, 
save a copy of it in your personal footprint library, rename it as you 
desire, and modify it to be exactly what you need. The process, once 
understood, is not onerous.

On 4/10/2024 11:21 AM, John Woodgate wrote:
I rarely make printed boards, but I need to in this case. I am using 
version 8.01. I have identified footprints for all of the components 
except for a 1 kohm trimmer potentiometer. This has? 5.08 mm spacing 
between the end pins and 5.08 mm spacing of the slider pin from the line 
of the end pins. The footprint library seems to be based on the user 
choosing parts from a very limited number of suppliers and knowing the 
exact part number. I can see no 'generic' footprints at all, but I seem 
to remember that earlier versions of KiCad had 'generic' footprints. Is 
the only solution to create a footprint?

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Thank you, but I don't think I can find the part number. I bought these parts quite a long time ago.

On 2024-04-10 19:31, brian wrote:
If you know the part number google search part number Kicad footprint. There are numerous websites which work with distributors, vendors, and so on to create symbols, footprints, and 3d models which you can download and import.

Usually pots are generic so odds are very high a pre-existing example is out there.



On 2024-04-10 2:21 p.m., John Woodgate wrote:

I rarely make printed boards, but I need to in this case. I am using version 8.01. I have identified footprints for all of the components except for a 1 kohm trimmer potentiometer. This has? 5.08 mm spacing between the end pins and 5.08 mm spacing of the slider pin from the line of the end pins. The footprint library seems to be based on the user choosing parts from a very limited number of suppliers and knowing the exact part number. I can see no 'generic' footprints at all, but I seem to remember that earlier versions of KiCad had 'generic' footprints. Is the only solution to create a footprint?

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If you know the part number google search part number Kicad footprint. There are numerous websites which work with distributors, vendors, and so on to create symbols, footprints, and 3d models which you can download and import.

Usually pots are generic so odds are very high a pre-existing example is out there.



On 2024-04-10 2:21 p.m., John Woodgate wrote:

I rarely make printed boards, but I need to in this case. I am using version 8.01. I have identified footprints for all of the components except for a 1 kohm trimmer potentiometer. This has? 5.08 mm spacing between the end pins and 5.08 mm spacing of the slider pin from the line of the end pins. The footprint library seems to be based on the user choosing parts from a very limited number of suppliers and knowing the exact part number. I can see no 'generic' footprints at all, but I seem to remember that earlier versions of KiCad had 'generic' footprints. Is the only solution to create a footprint?

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Re: Footprint for trimmer potentiometer

 

The preferred solution is to create your own footprint for the part you
wish to use. Sometimes you can find an existing footprint that is close,
save a copy of it in your personal footprint library, rename it as you
desire, and modify it to be exactly what you need. The process, once
understood, is not onerous.

On 4/10/2024 11:21 AM, John Woodgate wrote:
I rarely make printed boards, but I need to in this case. I am using
version 8.01. I have identified footprints for all of the components
except for a 1 kohm trimmer potentiometer. This has? 5.08 mm spacing
between the end pins and 5.08 mm spacing of the slider pin from the line
of the end pins. The footprint library seems to be based on the user
choosing parts from a very limited number of suppliers and knowing the
exact part number. I can see no 'generic' footprints at all, but I seem
to remember that earlier versions of KiCad had 'generic' footprints. Is
the only solution to create a footprint?

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Footprint for trimmer potentiometer

 

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I rarely make printed boards, but I need to in this case. I am using version 8.01. I have identified footprints for all of the components except for a 1 kohm trimmer potentiometer. This has? 5.08 mm spacing between the end pins and 5.08 mm spacing of the slider pin from the line of the end pins. The footprint library seems to be based on the user choosing parts from a very limited number of suppliers and knowing the exact part number. I can see no 'generic' footprints at all, but I seem to remember that earlier versions of KiCad had 'generic' footprints. Is the only solution to create a footprint?

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Re: Gerber export with DRC errors

 

FB is Facebook. Thanks for the answer!

Lev

On Sat, Apr 6, 2024, 10:43 Pedro Martín via <pkicad=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi, I don't know what FB is, but that "someone" is wrong.

And you are answering yourself: your experience, and anyone's who tried it, shows otherwise.

Regards,
Pedro.



El vie., abr. 5, 2024 a 10:56, Lev
<leventelist@...> escribió:
Hi all,



On the FB group, someone pointed out that KiCad refuses to generate
Gerber plots when there are DRC issues with the board. My experience
shows otherwise.

Is there any feature like this? If there is, how does it work?


Thanks,
Levente


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Re: Gerber export with DRC errors

 

Hi, I don't know what FB is, but that "someone" is wrong.

And you are answering yourself: your experience, and anyone's who tried it, shows otherwise.

Regards,
Pedro.



El vie., abr. 5, 2024 a 10:56, Lev
<leventelist@...> escribió:
Hi all,



On the FB group, someone pointed out that KiCad refuses to generate
Gerber plots when there are DRC issues with the board. My experience
shows otherwise.

Is there any feature like this? If there is, how does it work?


Thanks,
Levente


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Gerber export with DRC errors

 

Hi all,



On the FB group, someone pointed out that KiCad refuses to generate Gerber plots when there are DRC issues with the board. My experience shows otherwise.

Is there any feature like this? If there is, how does it work?


Thanks,
Levente


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Re: Problems with Audio plug2

 

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Thanks, Brian, but that's not the problem. I am not sure which message you are replying to, because you haven't cited any of my message.? I have been advised how to configure 'libraries' so that my? modified symbol file can be added to the schematic. I am surprised that the library management is (counter-intuitively) under 'Preferences'; I think it's so fundamental that it should be a top-level tab.

On 2024-04-01 16:31, Brian German via groups.io wrote:
John, if I am understanding you correctly, you may still have the 'add symbols' tool activated (your cursor would look like an opamp symbol next to the crosshairs) thus only letting you see this when right-clicking...

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Re: Problems with Audio plug2

 

John, if I am understanding you correctly, you may still have the 'add symbols' tool activated (your cursor would look like an opamp symbol next to the crosshairs) thus only letting you see this when right-clicking...


If you hit 'Esc' or the 'Select items' tool, you'll see an arrow for your cursor (with the crosshairs).? Now select your symbol and right-click(RMB) and you should see...


Re: That question again: How to import an Eagle

 

On 31.03.24 21:14, Jon Evans wrote:
> Try adding the Eagle library in the Manage Symbol Libraries dialog.
> Eagle is one of the formats supported there.

Ah, that sounds great. Found my way in there, but using "browse
libraries" to navigate to my Eagle stuff, Kicad will again not see a
.lbr file, only .lib, so no apparent ability to digest Eagle there.
(Clicking on the "Kicad symbol library files (*.lib)" button offers no
better eyesight, despite the up/down chevrons intimating that options
are on offer.)

I may have to grab a strong coffee and brace myself for a Kicad upgrade,
in the hope that being up to date will reduce the risk that I'm doing
things the hard way. (Procrastination can do that - don't ask me how I
know.)

Many thanks,

Erik




Re: That question again: How to import an Eagle library?

 

Try adding the Eagle library in the Manage Symbol Libraries dialog.
Eagle is one of the formats supported there.

On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 9:04?PM <dvalin@...> wrote:


On 01.04.24 00:20, CW via groups.io wrote:

Many thanks, CW. While mostly being comments denying the usefulness of importing a library, there was one link there to:


I.e. it appears that Kicad _can't_ import Eagle libraries, and it's necessary to use Eagle to generate kicad format instead?

OK, I'll give that a go. Anything that works, after all.

Erik