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Re: Correct process to contribute more devices?

Ian bell
 

TR wrote:
Hello folks,
I am working to get a few of my often used devices into Kicad, and I would like to share them with the group, if that is wanted.
I think that is a good idea. I have created a library folder in the files section of the group for this purpose. Please create your own subfolders and donate your libraries.

ian

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Different via holes - PLEASE!

JPD Borgna
 

I created a board wich uses two different drills for vias: 50/28 and
32/16 but when i create the drill file i have to specify one drill and
is the one it uses.
Is there any way to generate the drill file with the two sizes that i
used to create the board?

Thanks a lot!

Sorry i insist, but i need to make this board, and this is the only thing that stop me.
It may be a way to change the via drills by hand on the drl file???
Please, any help will be appreciated!!!


Saludos, Juan Pablo.

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Re: Cut/Copy/Paste

 

Yes, I am aware of that.

I was refering to the CUT/COPY icons on the tool bar.

Try doing Cut/Copy using the toolbar icons.You'll know what I mean.

Thanks,
--Royce.

--- In kicad-users@..., Alberto Martin-Ortega <pafbat00@y
...> wrote:
Hi Royce,

when you have selected the components you want to copy/cut, right
button
on mouse and select copy/paste, and then press the scape key. That
will
return the selected components to the starting point.
Enjoy...

Pafbat


Royce Pereira wrote:

The only way to select any item is by drawing a box around it. But
when we do this and move the mouse to click on 'Cut' or 'Copy'
Icon,
the boxed items move also, and the mouse also will can select the
Icon!

How does one use the 'cut', 'copy' & 'paste' icons?

--Royce.



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Re: import netlist formats

Charlls Quarra
 

I'm using the hierarchical vhdl in a one-2-one
equivalence to a schematic diagram of components,
using existing components as black boxes. Each black
box is mapped to a IBIS model when existent of the
component. This is only so i can actually _debug_ the
circuit behaviour. I imagine that if at some point i
need/design a custom IC, that particular component
would have besides the pure behavioural model, the RTL
or transistor level model too


--- JPD Borgna <jpborgna@...> escribi:



Im just curius, are you talking about generating the
netlists for the
transistors after map them to the library to
get an schematic with transistors in kicad? If so...
nice approach, but
how can this be useful? You are not going to
use discrete transistors for your VLSI design....


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Re: Cut/Copy/Paste

Alberto Martin-Ortega
 

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Hi Royce,

when you have selected the components you want to copy/cut, right button on mouse and select copy/paste, and then press the scape key. That will return the selected components to the starting point.
Enjoy...

Pafbat


Royce Pereira wrote:

The only way to select any item is by drawing a box around it. But
when we do this and move the mouse to click on 'Cut' or 'Copy' Icon,
the boxed items move also, and the mouse also will can select the
Icon!

How does one use the 'cut', 'copy' & 'paste' icons?

--Royce.



Correct process to contribute more devices?

 

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Hello folks,
??? I am working to get a few of my often used devices into Kicad, and I would like to share them with the group, if that is wanted.
?
??? I put in a 256Kb SRAM this evening just as a test. It seems to work okay, but besides adding it to the library file so eeschema can use it, what else do I need to do? I am assuming I need to somehow link a .600 DIP package for it, but was unsure of exactly where to do that.
?
??? Another question;?are there very thorough docs spmewhere on how to edit the library files? The docs that I found that describe the file format seemed to be a good start, but I had some questions that seemed not to be answered by them. An example would be this:
?
In the docs:
F n ¡°text¡± posx posy dimension orientation visibility
??? with:
?
??????? n = field number :
??????? reference = 0.
??????? value = 1.
??????? n = 2..9 = fields 1 to 8.
??????? Pcb FootPrint = 10.
??????? Diagram name = 11.
??????? orientation = H (horizontal) or V (vertical).
??????? Visibility = V (visible) or I (invisible).
?
Example:
??? DEF DIODE D 0 40 Y NR 1 0 NR
??? F0 ¡°D¡± 0.100 50 H V
??? F1 ¡°DIODE¡± 0 - 100 50 H V
?
But in the Lib file, for the 512k sram:

F0 "U" 100 1200 70 H V L C
F1 "SRAM_512Ko" 100 -1200 70 H V L C
?
I'm guessing this mean field 0 (basically text notes around a device) is a "U" and positioned at 100 on x and 1200 on y, 70 dimension (height? in mm?) H for horizontal, and V for visible. So, what does the L and C do?
?
Enough questions for now, I think. ;)
?
Thanks,
Rick


Cut/Copy/Paste

 

The only way to select any item is by drawing a box around it. But
when we do this and move the mouse to click on 'Cut' or 'Copy' Icon,
the boxed items move also, and the mouse also will can select the
Icon!

How does one use the 'cut', 'copy' & 'paste' icons?

--Royce.


Re: import netlist formats

JPD Borgna
 

Charlls Quarra wrote:

Hi,

I have my own schematics in structural vhdl and i'm
compiling it using alliance vhdl compiler, which
produces a hierarchical netlist with the components i
want to place and route in the alliance logical format
.al, which can be translated into EDIF(.edi),
SPICE(.spi/.sp/.cir), .vlg or .vst netlists. Are any
of these netlist formats amenable for kicad to import ?



Im just curius, are you talking about generating the netlists for the transistors after map them to the library to
get an schematic with transistors in kicad? If so... nice approach, but how can this be useful? You are not going to
use discrete transistors for your VLSI design....


Saludos, Juan Pablo.

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New Release Candidate

jean-pierre charras - INPG
 

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I have uploaded a new release candidate.
Test it and send me your bug list ...

**
Update 04 oct 2005 (release candidate 2):

All:
??? Code cleaning (perhaps some bugs added...).
??? Some minor bugs fixed
???
??? Added:
Eeschema:
??? Component copy (popup menu)

**
Update 27 sept 2005 (release candidate):
Distribution:
Due to the large size of the archives, I have released kicad in 2 separate files:
kicad.zip (or.tgz) (all files but schematic component docs :kicad/library/doc/*.pdf)
doc_components.zip (or .tgz) (kicad/library/doc/*.pdf)
Full install (see install.txt):
install kicad.zip (or .tgz).
install doc_components.zip (or.tgz) in kicad/library
Update:
Usually, only kicad.zip is needed.


All:
??? Build with wxWidgets-2.6.2 (Windows) and wxWidgets-2.6.1 (Linux)
??? Italian GUI translation added


eeschema
??? Code cleaning.
??? Change: The 20 mils grid selection is changed to 25 mils grid selection.
??? ??? This is more convenient because the 50 mils standard working grid cannot be reached
??? ??? on a 20 mils grid
??? Added: very usefull block operations in Library Editor:
??? ??? Zoom (Drag mouse, middle button on)
??? ??? move (Drag mouse, left button on) or select items (choose from pop up menu)
??? ??? copy (Drag mouse, left button + shift key on)
??? ??? mirror (Drag mouse, left button + Control key on)
??? ??? delete (Drag mouse, left button + shiht key + control key on)
??? ??? Select (accessible by block popup menu): select items (pins) for selective global editing

??? Some others enhancements.

??? Added in Library editor only: True undo-redo command

??? Added:
??? ??? - New hot key: F5 = Find next
??? ??? - Now, pin names can be partially overlined:
??? ??? ??? Only letters between ~ are overlined.
??? ??? ??? for a string like READ/WRITE, if you want have WRITE overlined
??? ??? ??? enter the string READ/~WRITE~


pcbnew:
??? fixed bugs:
??? ??? - pcbnew can crashes in autoplace command
??? ??? - pcbnew now saves module option "locked".
??? ??? - Plot: cotas are now correctly plotted
**



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import netlist formats

Charlls Quarra
 

Hi,

I have my own schematics in structural vhdl and i'm
compiling it using alliance vhdl compiler, which
produces a hierarchical netlist with the components i
want to place and route in the alliance logical format
.al, which can be translated into EDIF(.edi),
SPICE(.spi/.sp/.cir), .vlg or .vst netlists. Are any
of these netlist formats amenable for kicad to import ?







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I was able to link kicad dinamically, finaly :)

Adilson Oliveira
 

Hi.

I want to tell you that I was able to compile and link Kicad dinamycaly
on Mandriva 2005 which, of course, gave me smaller executables and, best
of all, betterb 3D performance.
Basically the steps are:
- Download wxGTK-2.6.2
- ./configure --enable-shared=yes --with-gtk --enable-gtk2=yes
--with-opengl --enable-compat24
- make; make install
Inside the kicad-dev directory there a file called contrib_makefiles.txt
which is a composite of all makefiles and libs specification to help in
this process. Just cut and just the makefiles as described on this file
and make it.
I just wasn't able to find the wxhtml source code.

[]s

Adilson.


Re: One more feature request (EESchema)

 

--- Royce Pereira <roycejp@...> wrote:

Hi,

Many times it is required to place multible
components of the same
type in eeschema.

After placing a component, when one attempts to
place the next
component, the place component selection window
should directly show
the last component placed, so that one can directly
click 'OK'.
Presently, one has select repeatedly the component
from 'History'.

Also, while directly placing components like this,
the last
orientation(rotation etc) of the component may be
remembered.

This is useful while placing LEDs, resistor arrays
etc.

Regards,

--Royce.
I'll second that, keep the last selected component
active at the pointer. Also, when copying an already
configured component, value, footprint etc. Very
useful when making an array of the same component.

- YD.




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One more feature request (EESchema)

 

Hi,

Many times it is required to place multible components of the same
type in eeschema.

After placing a component, when one attempts to place the next
component, the place component selection window should directly show
the last component placed, so that one can directly click 'OK'.
Presently, one has select repeatedly the component from 'History'.

Also, while directly placing components like this, the last
orientation(rotation etc) of the component may be remembered.

This is useful while placing LEDs, resistor arrays etc.

Regards,

--Royce.


Copying Components

 

Hi,

1.
I would love to see a 'copy component' option in the context menu
while right clicking on a component.

At the moment one can only move components, not copy them.

2.
There should be some way to draw a bar on a part of a pin name only.
Presently adding a ~ before the name does this for all characters of
the pin name. However names like RD/WR/PGM etc require only 'WR' to be
shown with a bar. Perhaps one can enclose the required text with ~ ,
Like RD/~WR~/PGM. Ommiting the 2nd ~ could draw a bar on the rest of
the text.

Regards,

--Royce.


Bugs in eescheema build '21 Sep 2005'

 

Hi,

Mr. Charras, thanks for continuing to improve Kicad !

A couple of bugs the 21 Sep '05 build of eeschema,

1. In the context (right click) menu, the grid choices are shown
correctly as 50,25,10 etc. However, in the menu bar 'Preferences >
Options , the grid options(radio buttons) are still 50,20 etc.

2. Even after selecting a grid other than 50 from the context menu, in
"Preferences > Options' the grid still shows 50.

Thanks again,

--Royce.


This looks promising.

yajeed2000
 

Hi,
Just found this website.



Its in the very early stages of development, but it would fit in nicely
with Kicad.I't seems to be written in C++, but doesn't use wxwidgets.
I like the idea of using SDCC (small device C compiler) as it expands
the range of microcontrollers that can be used.

What do you all think, I feel it could be quite useful.

David


Re: Does 3D visualization uses OpenGL hardware acceleration?

Ian bell
 

Pedro Martn del Valle wrote:
Hello,
You must set colour depth to 24 or 32 bits.
Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
and change the line
DefaultDepth 24
That's all.
I wondered why I did not have a 3D problem - I checked my Xorg.conf and my default depth is already set to 24 - aha!

Ian

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Congratulations!

Juan Gonzalez
 

Hi,

I have been using kicad for four months more or less. Before, I was
using the Eagle. I am very interested in the development of free (as in
freedom) hardware. Kicad is perfect!! Now I can design free hardware
using a profesional free software!

Thanks you very much, Jean-Pierre CHARRAS!

Regards, Juan

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Re: Does 3D visualization uses OpenGL hardware acceleration?

Pedro Mart¨ªn del Valle
 

Hello,

You must set colour depth to 24 or 32 bits.

Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4

and change the line
DefaultDepth 24

That's all.

Pedro.



Ya est¨¢ resuelto: se necesita profundidad de color de 24 o 32 bits en Linux.
Como estoy ahora con una Debian Knoppix, no hab¨ªa cambiado la resoluci¨®n de
16 a 24 bits.

Esta es la respuesta de Jean-Pierre Charras:

"Sous Linux, la visualisation 3D ne semble marcher que si la carte graphique
est en 24 ou 32 bits par pixels (mode "true colors").
En mode 16 bits, cela ne marche pas.
Je pense que c'est un probl¨¨me de wxWidgets."

Soluci¨®n: ()

tu_m¨¢quina:~# xdpyinfo | grep "depth of root"
depth of root window: 24 planes

Si en este punto se encuentra con un valor bajo los 24, se deber¨¢ cambiar,
para el caso de la mayor¨ªa de las distribuciones de GNU/Linux que utilizan
XFree, bastara con:

Editar el archivo /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, encontrar y modificar Section
"Screen", simplemente se pondr¨¢ el valor

DefaultDepth 24
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posiblemente tengas que reiniciar.
En mi archivo, en vez de DefaultDepth viene DefaultDepth Color, pero es igual.

Saludos,

Pedro.

Hello.

I've been playing a bit with the Kicad sources yesterday but something
wasn't very clear to me: does the 3D visualization use the hardware
acceleration? I do have it on my machine (NVidia) but Kicad doesn't seen
to be using it.


Re: Does 3D visualization uses OpenGL hardware acceleration?

JPD Borgna
 

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Adilson Oliveira wrote:
JPD Borgna wrote:

  
Hello.

We had the same problem.
The linux version of kicad is completely statical. Thats why its so
heavy. We compiled from the sources and
dinamic link it and then it started to work a lot lot lot better.
We have some Debian Sarge i386 (Stable) packages of kicad. The binaries
are in one package, the libs in other, the pdfs
in other and the samples in other. All of them sum 54Megs, half the
package from internet. Six megs without the PDFs!
You can download the deb packages from

    
Hello Juan.

Nice move. I'll check it out later.
I actually saw it was staticaly linking and tried to compile Kicad
yesterday night on my Mandrake machine with no luck due the way wxwidget
libs are used I believe but I didn't have much time to check it out in
details.

  
Its a whole day job... spcecially on debian where the stable wxWidgets are different of the ones that kicad needs...

Gracias

  
De nada.

Adilson.


  

Saludos, Juan Pablo.
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