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Wondering if any one has experienced the winkeyer just stopped working and no longer being found by the computer?
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Its worked like a champ for about 2 yrs or so, but suddenly started to be a bit erratic and finally stopoped altogether. As a stand alone it works but the paddles are now reversed...unable to get he computer to see it. Swapping in teh winkeyer mini to the same computer, all works fine.
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Anyone with similar issues or ideas??
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Scott
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Did you try a different USB cable?
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On 3/28/2025 11:57 PM, Scott VY1CO via groups.io wrote: Wondering if any one has experienced the winkeyer just stopped working and no longer being found by the computer?
Its worked like a champ for about 2 yrs or so, but suddenly started to be a bit erratic and finally stopoped altogether. As a stand alone it works but the paddles are now reversed...unable to get he computer to see it. Swapping in teh winkeyer mini to the same computer, all works fine.
Anyone with similar issues or ideas?
Scott
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73 de Mike, W1NR
THAT was the equation. EXISTENCE!... SURVIVAL... must cancel out... programming!
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USB connector?sockets used often,? frequently end up with loose flexible spring material, and then the connection becomes erratic.? ?With careful vision and a small pick, the errant mechanical flap in the socket can be bent slightly.? ?I've had to do this on several sockets.? ?You might check and see how "tight" the connection seems.?
Gordon KX4Z
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 8:49?AM Michael McCarthy, W1NR via <lists= [email protected]> wrote: Did you try a different USB cable?
On 3/28/2025 11:57 PM, Scott VY1CO via wrote:
> Wondering if any one has experienced the winkeyer just stopped working
> and no longer being found by the computer?
> Its worked like a champ for about 2 yrs or so, but suddenly started to
> be a bit erratic and finally stopoped altogether. As a stand alone it
> works but the paddles are now reversed...unable to get he computer to
> see it. Swapping in teh winkeyer mini to the same computer, all works fine.
> Anyone with similar issues or ideas?
> Scott
--
73 de Mike, W1NR
THAT was the equation. EXISTENCE!... SURVIVAL... must cancel out...
programming!
- Ruk -
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Yes I've tried all of that. Everything works fine with the winkeyer mini so it something in the box I suspect. Tried reaching out to company but they are too busy it would seem.?
S On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:42?a.m. Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes= [email protected]> wrote:
USB connector?sockets used often,? frequently end up with loose flexible spring material, and then the connection becomes erratic.? ?With careful vision and a small pick, the errant mechanical flap in the socket can be bent slightly.? ?I've had to do this on several sockets.? ?You might check and see how "tight" the connection seems.?
Gordon KX4Z
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 8:49?AM Michael McCarthy, W1NR via <lists= [email protected]> wrote: Did you try a different USB cable?
On 3/28/2025 11:57 PM, Scott VY1CO via wrote:
> Wondering if any one has experienced the winkeyer just stopped working
> and no longer being found by the computer?
> Its worked like a champ for about 2 yrs or so, but suddenly started to
> be a bit erratic and finally stopoped altogether. As a stand alone it
> works but the paddles are now reversed...unable to get he computer to
> see it. Swapping in teh winkeyer mini to the same computer, all works fine.
> Anyone with similar issues or ideas?
> Scott
--
73 de Mike, W1NR
THAT was the equation. EXISTENCE!... SURVIVAL... must cancel out...
programming!
- Ruk -
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The "company" is? one man.? CQ WW WPX SSB contest is this weekend.
73, Bill Mader, K8TE ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio?
New Mexico QSO Party 12 Apr 2025
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 5-14 Sep 2025
Duke City Hamfest BoD??19-21 Sep 2025
Secretary/Treasurer and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association?
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 6:43?PM Scott VY1CO via <scott.vy1co= [email protected]> wrote: Yes I've tried all of that. Everything works fine with the winkeyer mini so it something in the box I suspect. Tried reaching out to company but they are too busy it would seem.?
S
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:42?a.m. Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes= [email protected]> wrote: USB connector?sockets used often,? frequently end up with loose flexible spring material, and then the connection becomes erratic.? ?With careful vision and a small pick, the errant mechanical flap in the socket can be bent slightly.? ?I've had to do this on several sockets.? ?You might check and see how "tight" the connection seems.?
Gordon KX4Z
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 8:49?AM Michael McCarthy, W1NR via <lists= [email protected]> wrote: Did you try a different USB cable?
On 3/28/2025 11:57 PM, Scott VY1CO via wrote:
> Wondering if any one has experienced the winkeyer just stopped working
> and no longer being found by the computer?
> Its worked like a champ for about 2 yrs or so, but suddenly started to
> be a bit erratic and finally stopoped altogether. As a stand alone it
> works but the paddles are now reversed...unable to get he computer to
> see it. Swapping in teh winkeyer mini to the same computer, all works fine.
> Anyone with similar issues or ideas?
> Scott
--
73 de Mike, W1NR
THAT was the equation. EXISTENCE!... SURVIVAL... must cancel out...
programming!
- Ruk -
|
Well aware of that. Reached out over three weeks ago. More than once. I know he is busy, and tired, likely. I have no criticism of him or company...nor product. I have enjoyed a few winkeyers for a while. Simply looking for possible? fixes other than tossing in the garbage and buying another.?
That said, do.uku have anything you wish to add??
S
Yes I've tried all of that. Everything works fine with the winkeyer mini so it something in the box I suspect. Tried reaching out to company but they are too busy it would seem.?
S
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:42?a.m. Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes= [email protected]> wrote: USB connector?sockets used often,? frequently end up with loose flexible spring material, and then the connection becomes erratic.? ?With careful vision and a small pick, the errant mechanical flap in the socket can be bent slightly.? ?I've had to do this on several sockets.? ?You might check and see how "tight" the connection seems.?
Gordon KX4Z
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 8:49?AM Michael McCarthy, W1NR via <lists= [email protected]> wrote: Did you try a different USB cable?
On 3/28/2025 11:57 PM, Scott VY1CO via wrote:
> Wondering if any one has experienced the winkeyer just stopped working
> and no longer being found by the computer?
> Its worked like a champ for about 2 yrs or so, but suddenly started to
> be a bit erratic and finally stopoped altogether. As a stand alone it
> works but the paddles are now reversed...unable to get he computer to
> see it. Swapping in teh winkeyer mini to the same computer, all works fine.
> Anyone with similar issues or ideas?
> Scott
--
73 de Mike, W1NR
THAT was the equation. EXISTENCE!... SURVIVAL... must cancel out...
programming!
- Ruk -
|
Begin with stating all the alternatives you have already tried to fix the issue.? This helps greatly in determining suggestions and saves respondents time.
73, Bill Mader, K8TE ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio?
New Mexico QSO Party 12 Apr 2025
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 5-14 Sep 2025
Duke City Hamfest BoD??19-21 Sep 2025
Secretary/Treasurer and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association?
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 7:07?PM Scott VY1CO via <scott.vy1co= [email protected]> wrote: Well aware of that. Reached out over three weeks ago. More than once. I know he is busy, and tired, likely. I have no criticism of him or company...nor product. I have enjoyed a few winkeyers for a while. Simply looking for possible? fixes other than tossing in the garbage and buying another.?
That said, do.uku have anything you wish to add??
S
Yes I've tried all of that. Everything works fine with the winkeyer mini so it something in the box I suspect. Tried reaching out to company but they are too busy it would seem.?
S
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:42?a.m. Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes= [email protected]> wrote: USB connector?sockets used often,? frequently end up with loose flexible spring material, and then the connection becomes erratic.? ?With careful vision and a small pick, the errant mechanical flap in the socket can be bent slightly.? ?I've had to do this on several sockets.? ?You might check and see how "tight" the connection seems.?
Gordon KX4Z
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 8:49?AM Michael McCarthy, W1NR via <lists= [email protected]> wrote: Did you try a different USB cable?
On 3/28/2025 11:57 PM, Scott VY1CO via wrote:
> Wondering if any one has experienced the winkeyer just stopped working
> and no longer being found by the computer?
> Its worked like a champ for about 2 yrs or so, but suddenly started to
> be a bit erratic and finally stopoped altogether. As a stand alone it
> works but the paddles are now reversed...unable to get he computer to
> see it. Swapping in teh winkeyer mini to the same computer, all works fine.
> Anyone with similar issues or ideas?
> Scott
--
73 de Mike, W1NR
THAT was the equation. EXISTENCE!... SURVIVAL... must cancel out...
programming!
- Ruk -
|
Thanks Bill,
I have done most things from new USB cables to reinstalling software...even a new computer
No change.
Putting a different,.nee, winkeyer in line works fine which suggests the issue is with the problematic winkeyer.
S
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:09?p.m. Bill Mader, K8TE via <billamader= [email protected]> wrote: Begin with stating all the alternatives you have already tried to fix the issue.? This helps greatly in determining suggestions and saves respondents time.
73, Bill Mader, K8TE ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio?
New Mexico QSO Party 12 Apr 2025
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 5-14 Sep 2025
Duke City Hamfest BoD??19-21 Sep 2025
Secretary/Treasurer and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association?
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 7:07?PM Scott VY1CO via <scott.vy1co= [email protected]> wrote: Well aware of that. Reached out over three weeks ago. More than once. I know he is busy, and tired, likely. I have no criticism of him or company...nor product. I have enjoyed a few winkeyers for a while. Simply looking for possible? fixes other than tossing in the garbage and buying another.?
That said, do.uku have anything you wish to add??
S
Yes I've tried all of that. Everything works fine with the winkeyer mini so it something in the box I suspect. Tried reaching out to company but they are too busy it would seem.?
S
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:42?a.m. Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes= [email protected]> wrote: USB connector?sockets used often,? frequently end up with loose flexible spring material, and then the connection becomes erratic.? ?With careful vision and a small pick, the errant mechanical flap in the socket can be bent slightly.? ?I've had to do this on several sockets.? ?You might check and see how "tight" the connection seems.?
Gordon KX4Z
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 8:49?AM Michael McCarthy, W1NR via <lists= [email protected]> wrote: Did you try a different USB cable?
On 3/28/2025 11:57 PM, Scott VY1CO via wrote:
> Wondering if any one has experienced the winkeyer just stopped working
> and no longer being found by the computer?
> Its worked like a champ for about 2 yrs or so, but suddenly started to
> be a bit erratic and finally stopoped altogether. As a stand alone it
> works but the paddles are now reversed...unable to get he computer to
> see it. Swapping in teh winkeyer mini to the same computer, all works fine.
> Anyone with similar issues or ideas?
> Scott
--
73 de Mike, W1NR
THAT was the equation. EXISTENCE!... SURVIVAL... must cancel out...
programming!
- Ruk -
|
When I’ve had problems with the Winkeyer ?I just purchased a new chip and it fixed everything. ?He sells those very inexpensively. The problem is to find exactly which model you’ve got because he has lots of different chips. ?It can be confusing.
Gordon kx4z?
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On Mar 29, 2025, at 21:14, Scott VY1CO via groups.io <scott.vy1co@...> wrote:
? Thanks Bill,
I have done most things from new USB cables to reinstalling software...even a new computer
No change.
Putting a different,.nee, winkeyer in line works fine which suggests the issue is with the problematic winkeyer.
S
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:09?p.m. Bill Mader, K8TE via <billamader= [email protected]> wrote: Begin with stating all the alternatives you have already tried to fix the issue.? This helps greatly in determining suggestions and saves respondents time.
73, Bill Mader, K8TE ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio?
New Mexico QSO Party 12 Apr 2025
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 5-14 Sep 2025
Duke City Hamfest BoD??19-21 Sep 2025
Secretary/Treasurer and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association?
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 7:07?PM Scott VY1CO via <scott.vy1co= [email protected]> wrote: Well aware of that. Reached out over three weeks ago. More than once. I know he is busy, and tired, likely. I have no criticism of him or company...nor product. I have enjoyed a few winkeyers for a while. Simply looking for possible? fixes other than tossing in the garbage and buying another.?
That said, do.uku have anything you wish to add??
S
Yes I've tried all of that. Everything works fine with the winkeyer mini so it something in the box I suspect. Tried reaching out to company but they are too busy it would seem.?
S
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:42?a.m. Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes= [email protected]> wrote: USB connector?sockets used often,? frequently end up with loose flexible spring material, and then the connection becomes erratic.? ?With careful vision and a small pick, the errant mechanical flap in the socket can be bent slightly.? ?I've had to do this on several sockets.? ?You might check and see how "tight" the connection seems.?
Gordon KX4Z
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 8:49?AM Michael McCarthy, W1NR via <lists= [email protected]> wrote: Did you try a different USB cable?
On 3/28/2025 11:57 PM, Scott VY1CO via wrote:
> Wondering if any one has experienced the winkeyer just stopped working
> and no longer being found by the computer?
> Its worked like a champ for about 2 yrs or so, but suddenly started to
> be a bit erratic and finally stopoped altogether. As a stand alone it
> works but the paddles are now reversed...unable to get he computer to
> see it. Swapping in teh winkeyer mini to the same computer, all works fine.
> Anyone with similar issues or ideas?
> Scott
--
73 de Mike, W1NR
THAT was the equation. EXISTENCE!... SURVIVAL... must cancel out...
programming!
- Ruk -
|
I can’t say that this has anything to do with it, but once I looked up how those chips do ESD protection and it’s so incredibly complicated it blew my mind. It would seem to me that this might be a weak spot of these kinds of chips. ? I don’t know much more about it than that. But it appeared that the problems I had potentially related to wearing out the ESD protection.
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On Mar 29, 2025, at 22:25, Gordon Gibby KX4Z via groups.io <docvacuumtubes@...> wrote:
? When I’ve had problems with the Winkeyer ?I just purchased a new chip and it fixed everything. ?He sells those very inexpensively. The problem is to find exactly which model you’ve got because he has lots of different chips. ?It can be confusing.
Gordon kx4z?
On Mar 29, 2025, at 21:14, Scott VY1CO via groups.io <scott.vy1co@...> wrote:
? Thanks Bill,
I have done most things from new USB cables to reinstalling software...even a new computer
No change.
Putting a different,.nee, winkeyer in line works fine which suggests the issue is with the problematic winkeyer.
S
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:09?p.m. Bill Mader, K8TE via <billamader= [email protected]> wrote: Begin with stating all the alternatives you have already tried to fix the issue.? This helps greatly in determining suggestions and saves respondents time.
73, Bill Mader, K8TE ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio?
New Mexico QSO Party 12 Apr 2025
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 5-14 Sep 2025
Duke City Hamfest BoD??19-21 Sep 2025
Secretary/Treasurer and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association?
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 7:07?PM Scott VY1CO via <scott.vy1co= [email protected]> wrote: Well aware of that. Reached out over three weeks ago. More than once. I know he is busy, and tired, likely. I have no criticism of him or company...nor product. I have enjoyed a few winkeyers for a while. Simply looking for possible? fixes other than tossing in the garbage and buying another.?
That said, do.uku have anything you wish to add??
S
Yes I've tried all of that. Everything works fine with the winkeyer mini so it something in the box I suspect. Tried reaching out to company but they are too busy it would seem.?
S
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:42?a.m. Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes= [email protected]> wrote: USB connector?sockets used often,? frequently end up with loose flexible spring material, and then the connection becomes erratic.? ?With careful vision and a small pick, the errant mechanical flap in the socket can be bent slightly.? ?I've had to do this on several sockets.? ?You might check and see how "tight" the connection seems.?
Gordon KX4Z
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 8:49?AM Michael McCarthy, W1NR via <lists= [email protected]> wrote: Did you try a different USB cable?
On 3/28/2025 11:57 PM, Scott VY1CO via wrote:
> Wondering if any one has experienced the winkeyer just stopped working
> and no longer being found by the computer?
> Its worked like a champ for about 2 yrs or so, but suddenly started to
> be a bit erratic and finally stopoped altogether. As a stand alone it
> works but the paddles are now reversed...unable to get he computer to
> see it. Swapping in teh winkeyer mini to the same computer, all works fine.
> Anyone with similar issues or ideas?
> Scott
--
73 de Mike, W1NR
THAT was the equation. EXISTENCE!... SURVIVAL... must cancel out...
programming!
- Ruk -
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Agreed. The design and function is very impressive but subject to limitations. Certainly the chip responsible for the USB com port portion seems suspect...its honestly? here nor there. I have a back up and remain convinced this is one of the better values in our hobby today...the way this device?can integrate?countless radios to software blows my mind. Just happy there are folks willing to put it all together for us.?
cheers\\ Scott On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 7:42?PM Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes= [email protected]> wrote:
I can’t say that this has anything to do with it, but once I looked up how those chips do ESD protection and it’s so incredibly complicated it blew my mind. It would seem to me that this might be a weak spot of these kinds of chips. ? I don’t know much more about it than that. But it appeared that the problems I had potentially related to wearing out the ESD protection.
Gordon kx4z On Mar 29, 2025, at 22:25, Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes=[email protected]> wrote:
?When I’ve had problems with the Winkeyer ?I just purchased a new chip and it fixed everything.? He sells those very inexpensively. The problem is to find exactly which model you’ve got because he has lots of different chips.? It can be confusing.
Gordon kx4z?
? Thanks Bill,
I have done most things from new USB cables to reinstalling software...even a new computer
No change.
Putting a different,.nee, winkeyer in line works fine which suggests the issue is with the problematic winkeyer.
S
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:09?p.m. Bill Mader, K8TE via <billamader= [email protected]> wrote: Begin with stating all the alternatives you have already tried to fix the issue.? This helps greatly in determining suggestions and saves respondents time.
73, Bill Mader, K8TE ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio?
New Mexico QSO Party 12 Apr 2025
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 5-14 Sep 2025
Duke City Hamfest BoD??19-21 Sep 2025
Secretary/Treasurer and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association?
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 7:07?PM Scott VY1CO via <scott.vy1co= [email protected]> wrote: Well aware of that. Reached out over three weeks ago. More than once. I know he is busy, and tired, likely. I have no criticism of him or company...nor product. I have enjoyed a few winkeyers for a while. Simply looking for possible? fixes other than tossing in the garbage and buying another.?
That said, do.uku have anything you wish to add??
S
Yes I've tried all of that. Everything works fine with the winkeyer mini so it something in the box I suspect. Tried reaching out to company but they are too busy it would seem.?
S
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:42?a.m. Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes= [email protected]> wrote: USB connector?sockets used often,? frequently end up with loose flexible spring material, and then the connection becomes erratic.? ?With careful vision and a small pick, the errant mechanical flap in the socket can be bent slightly.? ?I've had to do this on several sockets.? ?You might check and see how "tight" the connection seems.?
Gordon KX4Z
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 8:49?AM Michael McCarthy, W1NR via <lists= [email protected]> wrote: Did you try a different USB cable?
On 3/28/2025 11:57 PM, Scott VY1CO via wrote:
> Wondering if any one has experienced the winkeyer just stopped working
> and no longer being found by the computer?
> Its worked like a champ for about 2 yrs or so, but suddenly started to
> be a bit erratic and finally stopoped altogether. As a stand alone it
> works but the paddles are now reversed...unable to get he computer to
> see it. Swapping in teh winkeyer mini to the same computer, all works fine.
> Anyone with similar issues or ideas?
> Scott
--
73 de Mike, W1NR
THAT was the equation. EXISTENCE!... SURVIVAL... must cancel out...
programming!
- Ruk -
|
Good to know--thank you.
What chip was it?
S On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 7:25?PM Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes= [email protected]> wrote:
When I’ve had problems with the Winkeyer ?I just purchased a new chip and it fixed everything.? He sells those very inexpensively. The problem is to find exactly which model you’ve got because he has lots of different chips.? It can be confusing.
Gordon kx4z?
? Thanks Bill,
I have done most things from new USB cables to reinstalling software...even a new computer
No change.
Putting a different,.nee, winkeyer in line works fine which suggests the issue is with the problematic winkeyer.
S
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:09?p.m. Bill Mader, K8TE via <billamader= [email protected]> wrote: Begin with stating all the alternatives you have already tried to fix the issue.? This helps greatly in determining suggestions and saves respondents time.
73, Bill Mader, K8TE ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio?
New Mexico QSO Party 12 Apr 2025
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 5-14 Sep 2025
Duke City Hamfest BoD??19-21 Sep 2025
Secretary/Treasurer and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association?
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 7:07?PM Scott VY1CO via <scott.vy1co= [email protected]> wrote: Well aware of that. Reached out over three weeks ago. More than once. I know he is busy, and tired, likely. I have no criticism of him or company...nor product. I have enjoyed a few winkeyers for a while. Simply looking for possible? fixes other than tossing in the garbage and buying another.?
That said, do.uku have anything you wish to add??
S
Yes I've tried all of that. Everything works fine with the winkeyer mini so it something in the box I suspect. Tried reaching out to company but they are too busy it would seem.?
S
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:42?a.m. Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes= [email protected]> wrote: USB connector?sockets used often,? frequently end up with loose flexible spring material, and then the connection becomes erratic.? ?With careful vision and a small pick, the errant mechanical flap in the socket can be bent slightly.? ?I've had to do this on several sockets.? ?You might check and see how "tight" the connection seems.?
Gordon KX4Z
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 8:49?AM Michael McCarthy, W1NR via <lists= [email protected]> wrote: Did you try a different USB cable?
On 3/28/2025 11:57 PM, Scott VY1CO via wrote:
> Wondering if any one has experienced the winkeyer just stopped working
> and no longer being found by the computer?
> Its worked like a champ for about 2 yrs or so, but suddenly started to
> be a bit erratic and finally stopoped altogether. As a stand alone it
> works but the paddles are now reversed...unable to get he computer to
> see it. Swapping in teh winkeyer mini to the same computer, all works fine.
> Anyone with similar issues or ideas?
> Scott
--
73 de Mike, W1NR
THAT was the equation. EXISTENCE!... SURVIVAL... must cancel out...
programming!
- Ruk -
|
Sorry, that would take a lot of digging to figure out. It’s the main chip of the device… but he has many models
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On Mar 29, 2025, at 22:50, Scott VY1CO via groups.io <scott.vy1co@...> wrote:
? Good to know--thank you.
What chip was it?
S On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 7:25?PM Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes= [email protected]> wrote: When I’ve had problems with the Winkeyer ?I just purchased a new chip and it fixed everything.? He sells those very inexpensively. The problem is to find exactly which model you’ve got because he has lots of different chips.? It can be confusing.
Gordon kx4z?
? Thanks Bill,
I have done most things from new USB cables to reinstalling software...even a new computer
No change.
Putting a different,.nee, winkeyer in line works fine which suggests the issue is with the problematic winkeyer.
S
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:09?p.m. Bill Mader, K8TE via <billamader= [email protected]> wrote: Begin with stating all the alternatives you have already tried to fix the issue.? This helps greatly in determining suggestions and saves respondents time.
73, Bill Mader, K8TE ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio?
New Mexico QSO Party 12 Apr 2025
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 5-14 Sep 2025
Duke City Hamfest BoD??19-21 Sep 2025
Secretary/Treasurer and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association?
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 7:07?PM Scott VY1CO via <scott.vy1co= [email protected]> wrote: Well aware of that. Reached out over three weeks ago. More than once. I know he is busy, and tired, likely. I have no criticism of him or company...nor product. I have enjoyed a few winkeyers for a while. Simply looking for possible? fixes other than tossing in the garbage and buying another.?
That said, do.uku have anything you wish to add??
S
Yes I've tried all of that. Everything works fine with the winkeyer mini so it something in the box I suspect. Tried reaching out to company but they are too busy it would seem.?
S
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:42?a.m. Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes= [email protected]> wrote: USB connector?sockets used often,? frequently end up with loose flexible spring material, and then the connection becomes erratic.? ?With careful vision and a small pick, the errant mechanical flap in the socket can be bent slightly.? ?I've had to do this on several sockets.? ?You might check and see how "tight" the connection seems.?
Gordon KX4Z
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 8:49?AM Michael McCarthy, W1NR via <lists= [email protected]> wrote: Did you try a different USB cable?
On 3/28/2025 11:57 PM, Scott VY1CO via wrote:
> Wondering if any one has experienced the winkeyer just stopped working
> and no longer being found by the computer?
> Its worked like a champ for about 2 yrs or so, but suddenly started to
> be a bit erratic and finally stopoped altogether. As a stand alone it
> works but the paddles are now reversed...unable to get he computer to
> see it. Swapping in teh winkeyer mini to the same computer, all works fine.
> Anyone with similar issues or ideas?
> Scott
--
73 de Mike, W1NR
THAT was the equation. EXISTENCE!... SURVIVAL... must cancel out...
programming!
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Scott, I did respond to your direct email and recommended returning it for repair. Since it’s most likely a problem with the USB interface there isn’t really a magic DIY solution you can try. Changing out the WK IC is not going to help. The issue we discussed was whether it’s worth 2 way international postage to fix it. I suppose I could send you a replacement main board but that will end up costing more than a repair. Steve K1EL?
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On Mar 29, 2025, at 10:49?PM, Scott VY1CO via groups.io <scott.vy1co@...> wrote:
? Agreed. The design and function is very impressive but subject to limitations. Certainly the chip responsible for the USB com port portion seems suspect...its honestly? here nor there. I have a back up and remain convinced this is one of the better values in our hobby today...the way this device?can integrate?countless radios to software blows my mind. Just happy there are folks willing to put it all together for us.?
cheers\\ Scott On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 7:42?PM Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes= [email protected]> wrote: I can’t say that this has anything to do with it, but once I looked up how those chips do ESD protection and it’s so incredibly complicated it blew my mind. It would seem to me that this might be a weak spot of these kinds of chips. ? I don’t know much more about it than that. But it appeared that the problems I had potentially related to wearing out the ESD protection.
Gordon kx4z On Mar 29, 2025, at 22:25, Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes=[email protected]> wrote:
?When I’ve had problems with the Winkeyer ?I just purchased a new chip and it fixed everything.? He sells those very inexpensively. The problem is to find exactly which model you’ve got because he has lots of different chips.? It can be confusing.
Gordon kx4z?
? Thanks Bill,
I have done most things from new USB cables to reinstalling software...even a new computer
No change.
Putting a different,.nee, winkeyer in line works fine which suggests the issue is with the problematic winkeyer.
S
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:09?p.m. Bill Mader, K8TE via <billamader= [email protected]> wrote: Begin with stating all the alternatives you have already tried to fix the issue.? This helps greatly in determining suggestions and saves respondents time.
73, Bill Mader, K8TE ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio?
New Mexico QSO Party 12 Apr 2025
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 5-14 Sep 2025
Duke City Hamfest BoD??19-21 Sep 2025
Secretary/Treasurer and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association?
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 7:07?PM Scott VY1CO via <scott.vy1co= [email protected]> wrote: Well aware of that. Reached out over three weeks ago. More than once. I know he is busy, and tired, likely. I have no criticism of him or company...nor product. I have enjoyed a few winkeyers for a while. Simply looking for possible? fixes other than tossing in the garbage and buying another.?
That said, do.uku have anything you wish to add??
S
Yes I've tried all of that. Everything works fine with the winkeyer mini so it something in the box I suspect. Tried reaching out to company but they are too busy it would seem.?
S
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:42?a.m. Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes= [email protected]> wrote: USB connector?sockets used often,? frequently end up with loose flexible spring material, and then the connection becomes erratic.? ?With careful vision and a small pick, the errant mechanical flap in the socket can be bent slightly.? ?I've had to do this on several sockets.? ?You might check and see how "tight" the connection seems.?
Gordon KX4Z
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 8:49?AM Michael McCarthy, W1NR via <lists= [email protected]> wrote: Did you try a different USB cable?
On 3/28/2025 11:57 PM, Scott VY1CO via wrote:
> Wondering if any one has experienced the winkeyer just stopped working
> and no longer being found by the computer?
> Its worked like a champ for about 2 yrs or so, but suddenly started to
> be a bit erratic and finally stopoped altogether. As a stand alone it
> works but the paddles are now reversed...unable to get he computer to
> see it. Swapping in teh winkeyer mini to the same computer, all works fine.
> Anyone with similar issues or ideas?
> Scott
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73 de Mike, W1NR
THAT was the equation. EXISTENCE!... SURVIVAL... must cancel out...
programming!
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Copy that--thanks Steve, Appreciate the follow up.
Scott
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 11:48?PM Steve K1EL via <k1elsystems= [email protected]> wrote: Scott, I did respond to your direct email and recommended returning it for repair. Since it’s most likely a problem with the USB interface there isn’t really a magic DIY solution you can try. Changing out the WK IC is not going to help. The issue we discussed was whether it’s worth 2 way international postage to fix it. I suppose I could send you a replacement main board but that will end up costing more than a repair. Steve K1EL? ? Agreed. The design and function is very impressive but subject to limitations. Certainly the chip responsible for the USB com port portion seems suspect...its honestly? here nor there. I have a back up and remain convinced this is one of the better values in our hobby today...the way this device?can integrate?countless radios to software blows my mind. Just happy there are folks willing to put it all together for us.?
cheers\\ Scott On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 7:42?PM Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes= [email protected]> wrote: I can’t say that this has anything to do with it, but once I looked up how those chips do ESD protection and it’s so incredibly complicated it blew my mind. It would seem to me that this might be a weak spot of these kinds of chips. ? I don’t know much more about it than that. But it appeared that the problems I had potentially related to wearing out the ESD protection.
Gordon kx4z On Mar 29, 2025, at 22:25, Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes=[email protected]> wrote:
?When I’ve had problems with the Winkeyer ?I just purchased a new chip and it fixed everything.? He sells those very inexpensively. The problem is to find exactly which model you’ve got because he has lots of different chips.? It can be confusing.
Gordon kx4z?
? Thanks Bill,
I have done most things from new USB cables to reinstalling software...even a new computer
No change.
Putting a different,.nee, winkeyer in line works fine which suggests the issue is with the problematic winkeyer.
S
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:09?p.m. Bill Mader, K8TE via <billamader= [email protected]> wrote: Begin with stating all the alternatives you have already tried to fix the issue.? This helps greatly in determining suggestions and saves respondents time.
73, Bill Mader, K8TE ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio?
New Mexico QSO Party 12 Apr 2025
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 5-14 Sep 2025
Duke City Hamfest BoD??19-21 Sep 2025
Secretary/Treasurer and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association?
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 7:07?PM Scott VY1CO via <scott.vy1co= [email protected]> wrote: Well aware of that. Reached out over three weeks ago. More than once. I know he is busy, and tired, likely. I have no criticism of him or company...nor product. I have enjoyed a few winkeyers for a while. Simply looking for possible? fixes other than tossing in the garbage and buying another.?
That said, do.uku have anything you wish to add??
S
Yes I've tried all of that. Everything works fine with the winkeyer mini so it something in the box I suspect. Tried reaching out to company but they are too busy it would seem.?
S
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:42?a.m. Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes= [email protected]> wrote: USB connector?sockets used often,? frequently end up with loose flexible spring material, and then the connection becomes erratic.? ?With careful vision and a small pick, the errant mechanical flap in the socket can be bent slightly.? ?I've had to do this on several sockets.? ?You might check and see how "tight" the connection seems.?
Gordon KX4Z
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 8:49?AM Michael McCarthy, W1NR via <lists= [email protected]> wrote: Did you try a different USB cable?
On 3/28/2025 11:57 PM, Scott VY1CO via wrote:
> Wondering if any one has experienced the winkeyer just stopped working
> and no longer being found by the computer?
> Its worked like a champ for about 2 yrs or so, but suddenly started to
> be a bit erratic and finally stopoped altogether. As a stand alone it
> works but the paddles are now reversed...unable to get he computer to
> see it. Swapping in teh winkeyer mini to the same computer, all works fine.
> Anyone with similar issues or ideas?
> Scott
--
73 de Mike, W1NR
THAT was the equation. EXISTENCE!... SURVIVAL... must cancel out...
programming!
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WinKeyer is great ad I have had no trouble with it. On the other hand I really would lo vet support for my MMFJ 464 reader as it is both Paddle and Keyboard. DXLab supports it but N1M D9WES NIT. Not likely to ever support it as it is not produced any more and N1MM has too much else to do. Therefore I use WinKeyer for ever65hing except occasionally just regular QSOes where I might use the MFJ. ?It decodes Morse very well and has more characters than the reader in my TS590-SG been a help at times when I try for some ultra contester going 45 WPM which is beyond my current ability. ? ? Outlook LT Gil W0MN Hierro Candente Batir de Repente 44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb ? ?
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Subject: Re: [k1elsystems] Winkeyer stopped working? Copy that--thanks Steve, Appreciate the follow up. ? On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 11:48?PM Steve K1EL via <k1elsystems=[email protected]> wrote: Scott, I did respond to your direct email and recommended returning it for repair. Since it’s most likely a problem with the USB interface there isn’t really a magic DIY solution you can try. Changing out the WK IC is not going to help. The issue we discussed was whether it’s worth 2 way international postage to fix it. I suppose I could send you a replacement main board but that will end up costing more than a repair. ? Agreed. The design and function is very impressive but subject to limitations. Certainly the chip responsible for the USB com port portion seems suspect...its honestly? here nor there. I have a back up and remain convinced this is one of the better values in our hobby today...the way this device?can integrate?countless radios to software blows my mind. Just happy there are folks willing to put it all together for us.? ? On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 7:42?PM Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes=[email protected]> wrote: I can’t say that this has anything to do with it, but once I looked up how those chips do ESD protection and it’s so incredibly complicated it blew my mind. It would seem to me that this might be a weak spot of these kinds of chips. ? I don’t know much more about it than that. But it appeared that the problems I had potentially related to wearing out the ESD protection. Gordon kx4z
On Mar 29, 2025, at 22:25, Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes=[email protected]> wrote:
?When I’ve had problems with the Winkeyer ?I just purchased a new chip and it fixed everything.? He sells those very inexpensively. The problem is to find exactly which model you’ve got because he has lots of different chips.? It can be confusing. ? ? Thanks Bill, I have done most things from new USB cables to reinstalling software...even a new computer
No change. Putting a different,.nee, winkeyer in line works fine which suggests the issue is with the problematic winkeyer. S ? On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:09?p.m. Bill Mader, K8TE via <billamader=[email protected]> wrote: Begin with stating all the alternatives you have already tried to fix the issue.? This helps greatly in determining suggestions and saves respondents time.
ARRL New Mexico Section Manager ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio? New Mexico QSO Party 12 Apr 2025 W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 5-14 Sep 2025 Duke City Hamfest BoD??19-21 Sep 2025 Secretary/Treasurer and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association? ? ? On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 7:07?PM Scott VY1CO via <scott.vy1co=[email protected]> wrote: Well aware of that. Reached out over three weeks ago. More than once. I know he is busy, and tired, likely. I have no criticism of him or company...nor product. I have enjoyed a few winkeyers for a while. Simply looking for possible? fixes other than tossing in the garbage and buying another.? That said, do.uku have anything you wish to add?? ? Yes I've tried all of that. Everything works fine with the winkeyer mini so it something in the box I suspect. Tried reaching out to company but they are too busy it would seem.? ? On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:42?a.m. Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes=[email protected]> wrote: USB connector?sockets used often,? frequently end up with loose flexible spring material, and then the connection becomes erratic.? ?With careful vision and a small pick, the errant mechanical flap in the socket can be bent slightly.? ?I've had to do this on several sockets.? ?You might check and see how "tight" the connection seems.? ? On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 8:49?AM Michael McCarthy, W1NR via <lists=[email protected]> wrote: Did you try a different USB cable?
On 3/28/2025 11:57 PM, Scott VY1CO via wrote:
> Wondering if any one has experienced the winkeyer just stopped working
> and no longer being found by the computer?
> Its worked like a champ for about 2 yrs or so, but suddenly started to
> be a bit erratic and finally stopoped altogether. As a stand alone it
> works but the paddles are now reversed...unable to get he computer to
> see it. Swapping in teh winkeyer mini to the same computer, all works fine.
> Anyone with similar issues or ideas?
> Scott
--
73 de Mike, W1NR
THAT was the equation. EXISTENCE!... SURVIVAL... must cancel out...
programming!
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Scott, I will contact you directly to sort out a possible repair return. Steve K1EL?
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On Mar 30, 2025, at 3:19?PM, Gilbert Baron via groups.io <w0mn00@...> wrote:
? WinKeyer is great ad I have had no trouble with it. On the other hand I really would lo vet support for my MMFJ 464 reader as it is both Paddle and Keyboard. DXLab supports it but N1M D9WES NIT. Not likely to ever support it as it is not produced any more and N1MM has too much else to do. Therefore I use WinKeyer for ever65hing except occasionally just regular QSOes where I might use the MFJ. ?It decodes Morse very well and has more characters than the reader in my TS590-SG been a help at times when I try for some ultra contester going 45 WPM which is beyond my current ability. ? ? Outlook LT Gil W0MN Hierro Candente Batir de Repente 44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb ? ? ? Copy that--thanks Steve, Appreciate the follow up. ? On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 11:48?PM Steve K1EL via <k1elsystems=[email protected]> wrote: Scott, I did respond to your direct email and recommended returning it for repair. Since it’s most likely a problem with the USB interface there isn’t really a magic DIY solution you can try. Changing out the WK IC is not going to help. The issue we discussed was whether it’s worth 2 way international postage to fix it. I suppose I could send you a replacement main board but that will end up costing more than a repair. ? Agreed. The design and function is very impressive but subject to limitations. Certainly the chip responsible for the USB com port portion seems suspect...its honestly? here nor there. I have a back up and remain convinced this is one of the better values in our hobby today...the way this device?can integrate?countless radios to software blows my mind. Just happy there are folks willing to put it all together for us.? ? On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 7:42?PM Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes=[email protected]> wrote: I can’t say that this has anything to do with it, but once I looked up how those chips do ESD protection and it’s so incredibly complicated it blew my mind. It would seem to me that this might be a weak spot of these kinds of chips. ? I don’t know much more about it than that. But it appeared that the problems I had potentially related to wearing out the ESD protection. Gordon kx4z
On Mar 29, 2025, at 22:25, Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes=[email protected]> wrote:
?When I’ve had problems with the Winkeyer ?I just purchased a new chip and it fixed everything.? He sells those very inexpensively. The problem is to find exactly which model you’ve got because he has lots of different chips.? It can be confusing. ? ? Thanks Bill, I have done most things from new USB cables to reinstalling software...even a new computer
No change. Putting a different,.nee, winkeyer in line works fine which suggests the issue is with the problematic winkeyer. S ? On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:09?p.m. Bill Mader, K8TE via <billamader=[email protected]> wrote: Begin with stating all the alternatives you have already tried to fix the issue.? This helps greatly in determining suggestions and saves respondents time.
ARRL New Mexico Section Manager ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio? New Mexico QSO Party 12 Apr 2025 W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 5-14 Sep 2025 Duke City Hamfest BoD??19-21 Sep 2025 Secretary/Treasurer and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association? ? ? On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 7:07?PM Scott VY1CO via <scott.vy1co=[email protected]> wrote: Well aware of that. Reached out over three weeks ago. More than once. I know he is busy, and tired, likely. I have no criticism of him or company...nor product. I have enjoyed a few winkeyers for a while. Simply looking for possible? fixes other than tossing in the garbage and buying another.? That said, do.uku have anything you wish to add?? ? Yes I've tried all of that. Everything works fine with the winkeyer mini so it something in the box I suspect. Tried reaching out to company but they are too busy it would seem.? ? On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 6:42?a.m. Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes=[email protected]> wrote: USB connector?sockets used often,? frequently end up with loose flexible spring material, and then the connection becomes erratic.? ?With careful vision and a small pick, the errant mechanical flap in the socket can be bent slightly.? ?I've had to do this on several sockets.? ?You might check and see how "tight" the connection seems.? ? On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 8:49?AM Michael McCarthy, W1NR via <lists=[email protected]> wrote: Did you try a different USB cable?
On 3/28/2025 11:57 PM, Scott VY1CO via wrote:
> Wondering if any one has experienced the winkeyer just stopped working
> and no longer being found by the computer?
> Its worked like a champ for about 2 yrs or so, but suddenly started to
> be a bit erratic and finally stopoped altogether. As a stand alone it
> works but the paddles are now reversed...unable to get he computer to
> see it. Swapping in teh winkeyer mini to the same computer, all works fine.
> Anyone with similar issues or ideas?
> Scott
--
73 de Mike, W1NR
THAT was the equation. EXISTENCE!... SURVIVAL... must cancel out...
programming!
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-- W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W
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you said your using it in standalone ? Battery powered ? check the batteries , if the voltage drops to low the microprocessors internal supervisor will shut it down .
When you say the computer doesn't see the keyer are you just looking at the comm ports or are you running something like lsusb that looks at the whole usb system ? It should show as Future Technology Devices International, Ltd FT232 Serial (UART) IC
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Thanks for the reply. Yes, fading shows up as a device, but unable to connect to the winkeyer. Tried different computer and ca le, sa.e.result. co necting a different Meyer (the.mini or whatever it's called) works fine.?
No matter, Steve has reached out for support and I just need to send it down...it's worked.like a champ for me so not too concerned. I have a back up.?
Appreciate the input.?
Scott VY1CO
On Mon, Mar 31, 2025, 8:38?p.m. Clinton McClure via <cmclr123= [email protected]> wrote: you said your using it in standalone ? Battery powered ? check the batteries , if the voltage drops to low the microprocessors internal supervisor will shut it down .
When you say the computer doesn't see the keyer are you just looking at the comm ports or are you running something like lsusb that looks at the whole usb system ? It should show as Future Technology Devices International, Ltd FT232 Serial (UART) IC
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I have to respond to this because it is not all true.?
First of all, not all WinKeyers use FTDI interfaces. We moved over to the CH340 a few years ago and have stayed with them.?
Secondly, I would never recommend changing both the WK and USB ICs as a general solution to an issue. It is very easy to determine where a fault is and we have rarely found both parts fail at the same time. The only exception would be a close lightning strike. Steve K1EL?
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On Apr 1, 2025, at 12:03?AM, Scott VY1CO via groups.io <scott.vy1co@...> wrote:
? Thanks for the reply. Yes, fading shows up as a device, but unable to connect to the winkeyer. Tried different computer and ca le, sa.e.result. co necting a different Meyer (the.mini or whatever it's called) works fine.?
No matter, Steve has reached out for support and I just need to send it down...it's worked.like a champ for me so not too concerned. I have a back up.?
Appreciate the input.?
Scott VY1CO On Mon, Mar 31, 2025, 8:38?p.m. Clinton McClure via <cmclr123= [email protected]> wrote: you said your using it in standalone ? Battery powered ? check the batteries , if the voltage drops to low the microprocessors internal supervisor will shut it down .
When you say the computer doesn't see the keyer are you just looking at the comm ports or are you running something like lsusb that looks at the whole usb system ? It should show as Future Technology Devices International, Ltd FT232 Serial (UART) IC
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