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This is a place for temp files, other than administrative files. Either they are to be added to the next release, added to the Documents or will have a short life span. Groups.io has free subscription storage limit of 1 GB! The following are counted towards the storage limits for the group: - Files - Photos - Images in databases - Images in wiki pages - Message attachments 1. Please put files into the correct folders. - If there is not an appropriate folder, feel free to create one. 2. If you are working on a problem and want to load info for others to look at, create a folder within the 'Problems Being Worked On' folder using the Msg number or you name as the folder name. When the problem is resolved please delete the folder. 3. All files and photos are subject to removal at the moderators discretion. Your Moderators -- Peter Ulvestad JMRI Users Group Moderator - http://www.jmri.org ( http://www.jmri.org ) Tam Valley Group Moderator - https://tamvalleydepot.com/ ( http://tamvalleydepot.com/ ) Sprog-DCC Group Moderator - http://www.sprog-dcc.co.uk/ ( http://www.sprog-dcc.co.uk/ ) Edmonton Model Railroad Association - http://www.emra.club/
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ADMIN: >>HOW TO ASK YOUR QUESTION<< - A general reminder for everyone
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====================== HOW to ask your question ====================== One of the most common questions about JMRI is "How do I get it to work?". This isn't really a problem with JMRI itself in most cases, but there are HUGE numbers of possible configurations for DCC systems, and Windows, Linux, and Mac computers out there. Just asking "How do I get it to work" is NOT going to get you any useful help. When asking ANY question, you should >>>utilize a meaningful subject line<<< that indicates the problem and include the following information in the body of the message: + If JMRI has started copy and paste the System Console into the body. (its under help on the start screen) + Has JMRI worked before on this computer? + JMRI version + Previous version if you just upgraded + Java version + Previous version if you just upgraded + Computer make and model + if you have just upgraded, from which version + Any other DCC devices in use + Specific details of your difficulty including error messages if any, or what you would like to do with JMRI. Decoder Programming, Signals, Automation, etc. Depending on the nature of the problem, you may need to supply even more information, but this is the absolute required for anyone to give you accurate answers. Signing you post helps keep the group friendly and personable! Your moderators and trouble shooters.
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Please use "meaningful subject lines" when starting topics
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Please use "meaningful subject lines" when starting topics. We are getting lots of subject lines that don't give much if any idea of what the topic is about. By providing a meaningful subject line you may get the attention of someone that can provide you assistance with your issue. It also give others the chance to skip the topic if it is not of interest to them. -- Peter Ulvestad JMRI Users Group Moderator - https://www.jmri.org ( http://www.jmri.org ) Tam Valley Group Moderator - https://tamvalleydepot.com/ ( http://tamvalleydepot.com/ ) Sprog-DCC Group Moderator - http://www.sprog-dcc.co.uk/ ( http://www.sprog-dcc.co.uk/ ) Edmonton Model Railroad Association - http://www.emra.club/
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ADMIN: PERMITTED TOPICS - A general reminder for everyone
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We would like to point out that this list is for discussions related to JMRI, and is intended to be a place that people, particularly beginners, can turn to for help with their JMRI problems from more experienced JMRI users. General DCC and model railroading topics should be taken to a more appropriate forum and NOT be posted here. SPAM of any kind, politics, legal issues, and other off-topic matters should NOT be posted to the list and will be subject to deletion by the moderators, as will any responses to such off-topic matters. New members still on moderated status will find that off-topic posts will not be approved for posting, and old members making such posts may find themselves back on moderated status. BUY / SELL and ADVERTISING is NOT PERMITTED Let's keep things simple for all of us, and keep the discussion here on-topic. Your moderators
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DECODERPRO WARNING
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I was resetting some basic NCE and Digitrax mobile decoders back to their original programming. For some reason I never could reset TCS, NCE decoders on my Lenz system. No problem with Digitrax. I had a Proto 2000 SW1000 with a NCE SW*-SR decoder to reset so I set about making changes in DECODERPRO. Since it was not on my roster it was entered as a New Loco and read into the program to program on the main. The decoder instruction leaflet had a list of the original CV's so that is what I was going to program. Carefully changing only a few at a time and writing the sheet to make sure no mistakes were made, I dutifully went down the list making sure the CV's were correctly changed. The only CV's not changed were the speed table which contained a special switching program I had successfully used. I saved the file and exited the program.; WOW WHAT HAPPENED?? The little switcher took off like it was running on full DC and eleven other Layout loco's started running. I quickly hit the stop but6ton on my handset; which stopped all but the little switcher. which to me it meant analog running as the DC Component is still present on a LENZ stop function. I quickly pulled it off the layout. Looking at one handset i determined that Loco 3 was called up and had applied forward speed. While still in stop mode I changed loco 3 speed step to zero and pressed the stop function. No loco's were running. The loco's that had been running now had address 3. Theo only other loco's on the layout that did not have their address changed were various sound locomotives of various manufactures. All of the Lo's were restored to their respective Loco numbers on the programming track and appeared to be unchanged otherwise. The little switcher still had it's original number and would not run. I printed out the CV's for the SW9=SR as recorded in DECODERPRO. Everything was there except the manufacturer ID. That when it struck me. Had I tried to program a dead decoder?? Will DECODERPRO even let you ?? COMMENTS PLEASE.
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JMRI merchandise for donations
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As I get dressed for today's operations session. I put on my OpSIG shirt. And it made me realize that if I had one, I would also wear a JMRI shirt. While I know it would not be the fashion statement of the year, I would still purchase and wear one, especially as a fundraiser to keep JMRI going. Is there a JMRI merch store? Has this been tried in the past? Any chance that I could be wearing a JMRI t-shirt to my next ops session. Thanks -- Heath @ Human[c]ity http://www.humancity.org http://www.riversidetransfer.nyc http://www.manhattanmodelers.com
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I'm working on getting signals and CTC running on a layout that has three separate dispatch panels for different zones running using PanelPro. Where those zones meet I'm trying to mirror the state of some of the signals between the two panels. This is to enable the dispatchers to know when trains are cleared up to their zones and to also enable some CTC logic to block one dispatcher from routing a train into a block if the other dispatcher has someone cleared into the block from their direction. The two dispatch panels are connected to a server using loconet over tcp so each one can see the activity on the loconet bus. My first attempt was to just write logix to monitor for the turnout status changes that are used to control the SE8C and then set the appearance of a virtual signal head to match the state. Ex: IX:AUTO:0039C9 Aurora WEB Main2 Green [x] R1 IF Turnout "LT1552" state is "Turnout Closed" THEN When Triggered True, Set Signal Head Appearance, "LH2" to Green IX:AUTO:0039C10 Aurora WEB Main2 Red [x] R1 IF Turnout "LT1552" state is "Turnout Thrown" THEN When Triggered True, Set Signal Head Appearance, "LH2" to Red IX:AUTO:0039C11 Aurora WEB Main2 Yellow [x] R1 IF Turnout "LT1553" state is "Turnout Thrown" THEN When Triggered True, Set Signal Head Appearance, "LH2" to Yellow IX:AUTO:0039C12 Aurora WEB Main2 Dark [x] R1 IF Turnout "LT1553" state is "Turnout Closed" THEN When Triggered True, Set Signal Head Appearance, "LH2" to Dark This worked in my testing as I was always changing the state of a turnout from closed->thrown or thrown->closed when testing using the turnout table manually. However when tested on the real layout it didn't work. The panel could see the traffic when I monitored the loconet traffic: In this trace you see a 2 head signal where the aspect is changing from red over red -> yellow over red -> red over red. The problem with my logix is that the two turnouts that matter LT1552/LT1553 controlling the SE8C never actually change state in JMRI they are always in the thrown state and just sent a message to 'Throw' which is then not triggering my logix as I expected it to. I expected the 'Execute Actions whenever triggered' would mean that the logix would run everytime the message to throw the turnout was sent but that doesn't appear to be the case. Is there a better way to do what I'm trying to do or is there something wrong with my logix that will fix this issue? -- Chris
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Engine and bell sounds work but no horn after decoder install
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Hello - I have just completed my first decoder installation, an ESU LokSound 5 and Decoder Buddy into an Atlas Gold Series GP40-2 that previously had an old QSI decoder. The LokSound decoder was purchased from, and programmed by, Tony's Train Xchange. Motion, lights and some sounds (engine and bell) are working, but there is no horn sound when I press either F2 or the Horn button on my NCE throttle. (BTW, I also noticed that the F3 coupler sound does not work; there may be others.) I have been trying to determine how to fix this. I am using the JMRI version 5.10 DecoderPro, and created the roster entry by doing a "read all sheets" in the programmer. On the Function Map tab, I saw that F2 was not mapped to anything, so I mapped it to Sound slot 2, which I read is the "standard" mapping. But the drop-down list of Logical Functions provided by DecoderPro does not have "horn" listed, so I selected Grade Crossing as my best guess. Is this list fixed, or built based on what DecoderPro reads from the decoder? Either way, the horn still does not sound with F2 or the Horn button. On the Sound Levels tab, I also verified that Sound slot 2 volume is set to a non-zero value (100 in my case). Is there anything else I should verify, and/or does anyone know how to fix this? Thank you! ~Dan
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12 hour JMRI clocks
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Back when time really meant something on US railroads, they used 12-hour time. Why don't any of the JMRI clocks offer this option - am I missing it? The empolyee timetable for the prototype I model uses 12-hour time... Thanks
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this is on a modest sized club layout. (see Illinois Midland Model Railroad club on FB) We are using NCE PowerPro 5A serial/usb to a RPi. panel pro 4.21.3 I had control point turnouts setup and working well. Then added PSX/AIU for detection. After adding in the sensors and the corresponding panel lights. the function of the panel has become very sluggish, might take 20-30 seconds to throw a turnout/crossover. Any ideas what has happened ? too much for RPi ? only 8 sensors added, doesnt seem like that much, wanted to add about 6 more. We have Azatrax so no jmri signaling. any help or suggestions appreciated. Bryan
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Hello Thinking about making a Panel to show status of 1. NCE EB1 2. Block Power I have many Siding that I can hit a toggle switch to turn off the track Power 3. Track On Button Maybe some others still thinking about it. Know of anyone that's done this yet? -- Tom Grassi trgrassijr@...
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Importing LocSound file into DecoderPro
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Hi Is there a menu item in DecoderPro to import a LocSound file into DecoderPro? -- Mike from Calgary
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New to DCC - MacBook Pro Java failure
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I have a 2011 MacBook Pro running OS 10.13. I just bought a Digitrax Evolution Xpresss starter set. I downloaded and successfully installed JMRI and Java 11. DecoderPro won¡¯t open because Java 11 needs to be installed. IT IS INSTALLED. Yes, I turned it off and back on again. I clicked on See More on the popup window and I get instructions for downloading Java 17. I downloaded and successfully installed Java 17. DecoderPro won¡¯t open because Java 11 needs to be installed. The Java 11 and Java 17 installations both installed successfully. What gives? Tracy Reynolds
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First of all, I'd like to take a moment to thank Daniel and Dave - their help on here over the last couple of weeks has been absolutely incredible and has helped me to make some major strides with getting my hardware panel working with JMRI. This question probably has a very simple answer - "no". But let's check. I have this LogixNG table: And I have this: That works perfectly - given a Block name, it tells me the train describer Berth (which is on the hardware panel). I also need to be able to do lookups the other way - when I have a Berth and need to lookup a Block name. Is there any way to get LogixNG to find a row when the value to look for is in a column which isn't the first one (it would be the second column in this case)? If not, I can create a second table "Berth to Block" easily enough; but that seems like a maintenance overhead and potentially error prone. So, before I do that, I just want to check that I am not missing something. Thanks, Nick
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Given the following, how would I assign a consist to a train? I have perused the topics on this web site and also studied the Ops Pro manual. I am hoping for an easy way to have a loco consist associated with a train, but not to a specific staging track. My system is NCE. Staging is off layout made up basically of 30 tracks (boxes) containing the rolling stock (not locos) for trains. The locos are off layout in boxes, but not assigned to specific staging tracks. Currently I have five trains. I have five default loco consists for each train, and additional consists that could be substituted into those trains. But again, none are assigned to staging tracks. All trains begin in staging. Ops Pro generates a train by selecting a train, and selecting a staging track for that train to draw cars from. Once Ops Pro sets up the manifest, I move the cars manually to a fiddle track, then move the locos to the fiddle track. I would like to have a default loco consist for each train. But also I would like to optionally change to a different consist for that train. Currently, I manually write the consist onto the Ops Pro generated manifest. But it would be convenient to have the default consist as part of the manifest generated by Ops Pro.
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I have an Arduino uno with a motor shield attached and loaded with the DCC-EX command station software I have tested this and it detects my loco within the monitor part of the Arduino so I know the loco can be detected and if I issued the command <R 8> directly to the loco the loco judders forward and is detected however when using decoder pro and using the add now loco button I get a message "loco failed to respond" currently I have jmri version 4.26 on my Mac and 5.10 on the other systems due to java limitations on my Mac the track voltage on the main is 12v the loco works on other dcc systems so no problem there (I have a digikeys 5000 on my main layout) I have tried multiple computers running jmri on windows 10 , windows 7 , linux , and Macos all give the same message jmri on all the systems can turn the power to the track on and off on the Arduino but nothing else so any help would be welcome Many thanks Rob
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Dave S. & Daniel B. I just picked-up where we left off on DEC 5 2024. We had a thread going and Daniel provided Java code. Based on Dave's comments on the code I believe I would be left with what's shown in the attached snip. I saved it as .js but that didn't work when I ran it from Panel Pro. NY&HV_RR_Yard_Scenes is the name of my panel and Harbor is the ID of the Audio Icon. What file extension should I use, .java? Will it run from Panel Pro or from Command line? -- Many thanks in advance! Vinny DeRobertis ~ Apex, NC New York & Hudson Valley RR Windows 7 Pro / Java 11 / JMRI v5.10 Command Station: Digikeijs DR5000. Booster: Digikeijs DR5033 (4) Samsung A7 10.4" Tablets Fully Kiosk/Engine Driver v2.37.187 DCC/DMX Gateway: Pricom LLS. LocoNet Input Modules: Digikeijs DR4088LN DCC Output Modules: Digikeijs DR4018 / Yamorc YD8116. Sensors: Model Train Technology: DETECTOR-HO. Turnout Motors: MTB MP1
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virtual sound decoder
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Hello everyone. I'm looking for sound files to incorporate into the JMRI virtual decoder. I work with a Digitrax control panel and would love to find these types of files or be able to create them. If anyone could help me, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you very much.
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I have a panel file (https://github.com/RobertPHeller/WendellDepotMusuem/blob/main/PanelPro/WendellDepot-JMRI-withPanel.xml) that I have written an init script (it just initializes the internal sensors to a sane set of states). Is there some way to run this script when the panel file is loaded? -- Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller@... -- Webhosting Services
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Recently it became necessary to reinstall Java and JMRI. First, I checked that both programs were uninstalled. I then installed Java Version 8 Update 441 and JMRI Version 4.26+R381. Both were problem free installs. I then tried to start JMRI so I could load my roster. The Java icon and the DecoderPro icon appeared in the taskbar and the small JMRI splash screen appeared in the middle of my screen. That's as far as the startup got. I've listed my equipment below. What am I missing? I'd appreciate any help in getting started. -- Richard Richter Dell Lattude 3190 2-in-1 Laptop Computer Microsoft Windows 11 Pro RR-CirKits LocoBuffer-NG Rev-a Digitrax ZephyrXtra DCS 51 Command Station
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