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This is a place for temp files, other than administrative files. Either they are to be added to the next release, added to the Documents or will have a short life span. Groups.io has free subscription storage limit of 1 GB! The following are counted towards the storage limits for the group: - Files - Photos - Images in databases - Images in wiki pages - Message attachments 1. Please put files into the correct folders. - If there is not an appropriate folder, feel free to create one. 2. If you are working on a problem and want to load info for others to look at, create a folder within the 'Problems Being Worked On' folder using the Msg number or you name as the folder name. When the problem is resolved please delete the folder. 3. All files and photos are subject to removal at the moderators discretion. Your Moderators -- Peter Ulvestad JMRI Users Group Moderator - http://www.jmri.org ( http://www.jmri.org ) Tam Valley Group Moderator - https://tamvalleydepot.com/ ( http://tamvalleydepot.com/ ) Sprog-DCC Group Moderator - http://www.sprog-dcc.co.uk/ ( http://www.sprog-dcc.co.uk/ ) Edmonton Model Railroad Association - http://www.emra.club/
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ADMIN: >>HOW TO ASK YOUR QUESTION<< - A general reminder for everyone
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====================== HOW to ask your question ====================== One of the most common questions about JMRI is "How do I get it to work?". This isn't really a problem with JMRI itself in most cases, but there are HUGE numbers of possible configurations for DCC systems, and Windows, Linux, and Mac computers out there. Just asking "How do I get it to work" is NOT going to get you any useful help. When asking ANY question, you should >>>utilize a meaningful subject line<<< that indicates the problem and include the following information in the body of the message: + If JMRI has started copy and paste the System Console into the body. (its under help on the start screen) + Has JMRI worked before on this computer? + JMRI version + Previous version if you just upgraded + Java version + Previous version if you just upgraded + Computer make and model + if you have just upgraded, from which version + Any other DCC devices in use + Specific details of your difficulty including error messages if any, or what you would like to do with JMRI. Decoder Programming, Signals, Automation, etc. Depending on the nature of the problem, you may need to supply even more information, but this is the absolute required for anyone to give you accurate answers. Signing you post helps keep the group friendly and personable! Your moderators and trouble shooters.
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Please use "meaningful subject lines" when starting topics
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Please use "meaningful subject lines" when starting topics. We are getting lots of subject lines that don't give much if any idea of what the topic is about. By providing a meaningful subject line you may get the attention of someone that can provide you assistance with your issue. It also give others the chance to skip the topic if it is not of interest to them. -- Peter Ulvestad JMRI Users Group Moderator - https://www.jmri.org ( http://www.jmri.org ) Tam Valley Group Moderator - https://tamvalleydepot.com/ ( http://tamvalleydepot.com/ ) Sprog-DCC Group Moderator - http://www.sprog-dcc.co.uk/ ( http://www.sprog-dcc.co.uk/ ) Edmonton Model Railroad Association - http://www.emra.club/
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ADMIN: PERMITTED TOPICS - A general reminder for everyone
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We would like to point out that this list is for discussions related to JMRI, and is intended to be a place that people, particularly beginners, can turn to for help with their JMRI problems from more experienced JMRI users. General DCC and model railroading topics should be taken to a more appropriate forum and NOT be posted here. SPAM of any kind, politics, legal issues, and other off-topic matters should NOT be posted to the list and will be subject to deletion by the moderators, as will any responses to such off-topic matters. New members still on moderated status will find that off-topic posts will not be approved for posting, and old members making such posts may find themselves back on moderated status. BUY / SELL and ADVERTISING is NOT PERMITTED Let's keep things simple for all of us, and keep the discussion here on-topic. Your moderators
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Roster Missing
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Was using JMRI to program some locos when the computer suddenly decided to do some update. Closed JMRI and waited for the update conclusion. Then reloaded JMRI and discovered that the roster file was gone. Absolutely empty. Did a couple of reloads, same problem. I am hoping that the file is still in the computer, but the link to load it vanished. Is there a specific name for the roster file that I can reload if it is indeed there? Any suggestions or ideas greatly welcome. Roger Thomas Note: This is a club roster with over 300 locos.
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I¡¯m pleased to announce that version 3.00 of Model Railroad Switch List And Manifest Formatter is now available for download from the website. New in this version of MR SLAM Formatter is the ability to automatically resize data fields to fit within the printable area of the column and/or page, and then to line wrap the text, as necessary, to fit within the borders. If you use JMRI Operations Pro to create manifests and switch lists for your model railroad empire, then you should check out MR SLAM Formatter. It is a companion program to Operations Pro and provides unparalleled capabilities to format your manifests and switch lists. The program is free, easy to use, and, like JMRI, runs under Java. Please watch this YouTube video that demonstrates this new program feature. [ If you are leery of clicking on links, go to YouTube and search form "mrslamf" to find the video.] Then visit the website to download the program - https://mrslamf.com/. The website contains numerous example documents and there are several videos available that demonstrate various features of the program. The program also comes with a complete user¡¯s manual that describes all of the program¡¯s features. MR SLAM Formatter has been downloaded hundreds of times by users around the globe. Give it a try.
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DCC-EX CSB1 run trains and control kato turnouts?
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Can a single CSB1 run trains and control turnouts? I would like to power the turnouts from a 2nd motor shield piggy-backing on top of the first. My guess is to designate the turnouts in the arduino my layout.h file. i am new to DCC, so any help would be great ~gary
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I am a former Lenz user that just changed to Digitrax (changed RR club). I have the following: - win10 laptop - 5.10 decoderpro - AZUL ZULU JDK 17.56.15(17.0.14) 64 bit - DCS210+ USB connected on comm7 - Loconet server is running on port 1234 My issue is it starts reading decoder and returns error 306. Here is the system console info: 09:05:45,729 apps.util.Log4JUtil INFO - * JMRI log ** [main] 09:05:45,760 apps.util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\user\JMRI\log\session.log [main] 09:05:45,760 apps.util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\user\JMRI\log\messages.log [main] 09:05:45,823 apps.AppsBase INFO - DecoderPro version 5.10+Rca461bd266 starts under Java 17.0.14 on Windows 10 amd64 v10.0 at Thu May 01 09:05:45 CST 2025 [main] 09:05:46,072 apps.gui3.Apps3 INFO - Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3ed69ac3 [main] 09:05:46,291 jmri.util.node.NodeIdentity INFO - Using c0f73803-0a28-4143-a5d4-ce6ead45f1e7 as the JMRI storage identity for profile id 3ed69ac3 [AWT-EventQueue-0] 09:05:46,518 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO - Starting to connect for "LocoNet" [main] 09:05:46,747 t.usb_dcs210Plus.UsbDcs210PlusAdapter INFO - Connecting USB DCS210Plus via COM7 PCI Serial Port [main] 09:05:46,747 .loconet.locobuffer.LocoBufferAdapter INFO - LocoNet: Port Intel(R) Active Management Technology - SOL (COM7) opened at 57600 baud, sees DTR: true RTS: true DSR: true CTS: true DCD: true flow: RTSCTS [main] 09:05:46,762 x.loconet.pr3.PR3SystemConnectionMemo INFO - Connection [L] initialized as LocoNet interface, allows access to attached devices. (see preferences) [main] 09:05:46,897 jmri.jmrix.loconet.LnPacketizer INFO - lnPacketizer Started [main] 09:05:47,552 jmri.jmrit.roster.Roster INFO - Reading roster file with rootFromName(C:\Users\user\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\roster.xml) [main] 09:06:04,755 ix.loconet.loconetovertcp.LnTcpServer INFO - Starting new LocoNetOverTcpServer listener on port 1234 [AWT-EventQueue-0] 09:06:04,758 ix.loconet.loconetovertcp.LnTcpServer INFO - Starting ZeroConfService _loconetovertcpserver._tcp.local for LocoNetOverTCP Server [AWT-EventQueue-0] 09:06:04,984 jmri.jmrit.withrottle.FacelessServer INFO - Published ZeroConf service for 'south sask railroad._withrottle._tcp.local.' on 192.168.0.28:12090 [WiThrottleServer] 09:06:04,986 jmri.jmrit.withrottle.FacelessServer INFO - Published ZeroConf service for 'south sask railroad._withrottle._tcp.local.' on fe80:0:0:0:e862:7f07:81ec:d531%wlan1:12090 [WiThrottleServer] 09:06:04,988 jmri.jmrit.withrottle.FacelessServer INFO - Published ZeroConf service for 'south sask railroad._withrottle._tcp.local.' on fe80:0:0:0:5414:27df:8a51:7473%net11:12090 [WiThrottleServer] 09:06:04,991 jmri.jmrit.withrottle.FacelessServer INFO - Published ZeroConf service for 'south sask railroad._withrottle._tcp.local.' on 10.0.6.125:12090 [WiThrottleServer] 09:06:04,994 jmri.jmrit.withrottle.FacelessServer INFO - Creating new WiThrottle DeviceServer(socket) on port 12090, waiting for incoming connection... [WiThrottleServer] 09:06:05,020 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path program: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\ [main] 09:06:05,020 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path preference: is C:\Users\user\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\ [main] 09:06:05,021 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path profile: is C:\Users\user\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\ [main] 09:06:05,022 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path settings: is C:\Users\user\JMRI\ [main] 09:06:05,022 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path home: is C:\Users\user\ [main] 09:06:05,023 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path scripts: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\jython\ [main] 09:06:05,629 t.permission.DefaultPermissionManager INFO - Permission file: C:\Users\user\JMRI\.permissions.xml [main] 09:06:05,634 t.permission.DefaultPermissionManager INFO - Permission system is enabled: no [main] Here is the preferences screen shot: I searched older records and could not find relevant info. Any suggestions welcomed Thanks Greg King
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I was wondering on the layout that I operate on we have several customers that all receive loads of coal and ship out empties. I am thinking that I can just create a schedule (call it coal) that will allow me to have my fleet of hoppers run in cycle of coming in from staging loaded getting routed to the industries and then the empties going back off line to be reloaded. Currently I have set up custom loads of LD coal and MTY coal but I am having the issues that when the car gets empty they end up getting routed whichever way the computer decides to do. which create an issue of the cars not getting back to the proper staging location to get reloaded. I have also set it to where the car is empty to return it to said staging area (in this Case Omaha to interchange with the UP). I also get a message saying that car may not return to destination due to load (E) for some reason I can change it to say MTY coal. Thank you Ashley
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Add custom items to mqtt topic
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When a point/turnout is changed in JMRI connected to the layout using MQTT it publishes a message whose topic is of the form ../turnouts/ T101 I have a number of arduino nodes controlling points and would like something like ../turnouts/node2/T101. so the node can subscribe only to topics that are relevant. I have worked out how to add and persist custom properties to the turnout object but how do I change the published MQTT topic to reflect these.
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NCE ProCab- Light-it as signal decoder - Simultaneous commands
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Query from a Nimble Newbie, How many commands can one send at a time from an "if-then" Logix statement? E.g. IF sensor 'x' goes 'active' THEN....switch Signal '1' to danger, signal '2' to caution, signal 3 to 'clear', turn on coffee pot, etc... It seems to THEN part of the statement fires odd the commands so quickly that the NCE system misses some of the actions [somewhat randomly]. Not a wiring issue. Is there a way of slowing down, or at least separating out [even by milliseconds] the list of ACTIONS to occur upon a given antecedent? Nimble of Oz
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New install trouble
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So after being away for a few weeks, I¡¯m back down in the basement with my new install on a new laptop. Everything seems to be set, but I cannot identify a locomotive under either identify or-new Loco by decoder type read. I constantly get a 301 stopping due to error no locomotive detectived message. I¡¯m using NCE system and I can still run trains. When I click on identify or through the new Loco tab the status light on my powerhouse blinks rapidly for several minutes and then the error message appears. I was scrolling through older messages and thought that maybe I had a com port ID problem, but since the LED on my powerhouse flashes, would that be ruled out? I have my system hooked up to the laptop through a USB port, which goes through an adapter cable, all of this was working When I replaced the laptop.Suggestions of which way I need to look for an issue appreciated. Thanks, Bruce and Mt. Airy, Maryland
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Cannot get power to new Throttle
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Good afternoon, I need help. I have JMRI 5.10 on my laptop. I am running Windows 11 and have Java 17. Sprog ll is my interface. I wanted to test a loco on the programming track, however, I cannot get the power button to go from pale green to green. In fact it does not respond at all. I have reinstalled Decoder Pro and still no joy. Am I doing something wrong? Regards, Dennis Dennis G Edgar Lead Auditor 133839 email: dennisedgar7@... mobile: 083 6470569
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I have a logic rail fast clock connected to my PC via an LCC bus. I would like to use the time on the Logic Rail to drive a logix NG. The Logic Rail is set as a master. As a test I wanted the Logix to execute a command at 5 minutes. I set it up as follows but it is not working I would really appreciate any help in getting this to work. have proven out the voice monkey part of the equation by using the pressing of a sensor as a trigger. I have also used JMRI fast clock to trip it but then I have no easy way to display the JMRI fast clock time around the layout. For those curious - I am using Voice Monkey to then send a command via Alexa to dim room lights connected to Alexa enabled dimmers I am just getting my feet wet with Logix so could really use the help! Thanks in advance
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Invisible pop ups
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I have a regular problem with pop-ups from JMRI not being visible, which then renders JMRI unusable until restarted. This is on a raspberry pi originally built using the image provided. Access is via VNC. I have version: PanelPro version 5.10+Rca461bd266 starts under Java 17.0.14 on Linux aarch64 v6.6.74+rpt-rpi-2712 at Mon Apr 21 08:52:21 BST 2025 [main] The display is wayland, and the hardware is an 8g Rasberry PI 5 (but I also saw this on my old rasberry pi 4) The behaviour appears to be random, I just had it when trying to write this by going to "Help -> About PanelPro" but on restart it's fine. I see it most when editing LogixNG when it's popping up a warning that I need to complete editing a logixng before exiting that edit. Any ideas? Thank you Chris
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Copying CVs from one loco to another
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Is there a way to copy the CVs from one loco in a roster to another? All my locos have ZIMO decoders and at least the initial setting for ABC should be the same, so when I introduce a new loco I'd like to just copy an existing locos settings. Is there a way? Or a template so that the default for new locos is ABC, stopping distance X, etc... I have a similar situation for sound. Two locos, identical chips both with sound. I want to copy the sound settings from one to the other. Can I? Or do I have to write them all down and do it by hand? Thanks Chris
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Can't read decoder information to DecoderPro
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I have the latest revision of DecoderPro running on my desktop PC, which is connected to a SPROG3 command station. When I press the 'Read type from decoder' button, the message in the lower left-hand corner of the 'Create New Loco' window doesn't change from 'Read MFG ID - CV 8' until the timeout message appears. The LEDs on the SPROG3 box do not flash. The USB connection to the computer is good. I've run the locomotives using my Prodigy power supply with no problems. This issue first occurred on April 27, 2025. Last week, it worked fine. I was able to read data from a new locomotive. I've tried it on multiple locomotives with the same result. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, Scott
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Conditionals
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I have several logixes related to the same turnout. I was wondering if there is a way to combine them easily into one new logix (other than retyping them). Ulrich
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JMRI/LOG
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When i use jmri the system console info and loconet monitor data goes into files in the log directory inside the directory holding the profile that was opened. what happens to the data that occurred first when the 3 message files are filled to capacity and the file is bigger than 3 files worth-is it lost? will the other log file(whose name i forget) contain all the system console data no matter how big it gets?- is any data lost if too big? when i close the session and open a new session what happens to the data of the previous session.? tony
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Locomotive tracking using JMRI
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I have been trying to track a specific locomotive using the Block Contents variable. I am able to place a tag object on the layout for the block occupied by a loco (using BDL 716) and the icon illuminates with the text. I then place an icon in the adjoining block and as the loco traverses this block the initial icon goes away and the current icon in the new block illuminates as it should. When I reverse the direction of the loco, both icons stop illuminating. It seems like I am not setting the block variables correctly such that the Icon contents persist. Any suggestions? Also, can Logix be used to initiate the Block Contents tracking if I always park the loco in the same block when I start the system? -- Rodney McNeill
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