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I have been using JMRI for the Operations, and decoder programming for probably well over 15 years.? My problem now is not being able to? manually set cars, o assign locomotives to trains or generally speaking make any changes manually.? When I set a destination for any car, or assign locomotives, the changes I make do not register, nothing changes.? I recently downloaded JMRI 5.6., noticed the problem and went back to JMRI 5.4, but problem persists.

I am open to suggestions.? Thanks

Gord King - SLN RR

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Hey Gord,

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Do you get an error message when you attempt to save changes?? If so, can you post a screenshot of the message or write it out on here for us to see?

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What are the specific steps you employ to make your changes?

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Happy to help, hope it helps,

<Pete Johnson>

Pete

To move cars I go to Operation > Trains > Cars select a car, select "Set" and make the necessary changes.? I do the same for the locomotives..? But the changes do not appear to be made..

Gord

On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 05:35 PM, Gord King wrote:

select "Set" and make the necessary changes

Followed by pressing the "Save" in the "Set Car" window?

Yes I "save",? as the program will not let me proceed without saving.? I get no messages when I "save".

I have discovered that I cannot "save" changes in other areas, such as in "preferences".? If I make changes in "preferences" they are not be saved.? It's beginning to look like more of? 'global' problem in my program.

Gord

Gord -

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I was having an identical problem to what you describe about "Setting" cars a week or so ago.

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It turned out it was a conflict between what I wanted to do, and what either the "route" for the car, or the "location" of the car, was set at and permitted me to do.? I fixed my issue by going to either the 'route' or the 'location', and changed the "train direction" settings.? I don't remember exactly, but I think it was the Location, using the "Edit Location" button.

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Clarence

On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 10:41 AM, Gord King wrote:

It's beginning to look like more of? 'global' problem in my program.

Could you please copy and paste the System Console for us to review?

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Dan JMRI Developer

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Since my last email, I have "uninstalled" version 5.6, and "reinstalled" version 5.4 with no changes problem.? I have since reinstalled version 5.6.

I can now 'save' changes in "Preferences, but still cannot save changes in 'car', 'locomotives', 'routes', or 'locations'.

Just a note, my JMRI operating programme is on C drive, and I keep my "data" on D drive, and backup to a stick.

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I have pasted the SYSTEM CONSOLE below:

12:02:17,189 apps.util.Log4JUtil ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- * JMRI log ** [main]
12:02:17,275 apps.util.Log4JUtil ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- This log is stored in file: C:\\Users\\Gord\JMRI\log\session.log [main]
12:02:17,275 apps.util.Log4JUtil ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- This log is appended to file: C:\\Users\\Gord\JMRI\log\messages.log [main]
12:02:17,385 apps.Apps ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- PanelPro version 5.6+R89a87446cb starts under Java 11.0.20 on Windows 10 amd64 v10.0 at Wed Aug 28 12:02:17 EDT 2024 [main]
12:02:17,579 apps.Apps ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3f509ab7 [main]
12:02:18,119 jmri.util.node.NodeIdentity ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- Using jmri-ouxVDckNbhNiaaap7_o3He-3f509ab7 as the JMRI storage identity for profile id 3f509ab7 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
12:02:19,284 jmri.jmrit.roster.Roster ? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO ?- Reading roster file with rootFromName(D:\Users\Gord\Documents\JMRI Data office\SLN_RR__DUNDAS_SUB.jmri\roster.xml) [main]
12:02:19,916 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- File path program: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\ [main]
12:02:19,916 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- File path preference: is D:\Users\Gord\Documents\JMRI Data office\SLN_RR__DUNDAS_SUB.jmri\ [main]
12:02:19,916 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- File path profile: is C:\Users\Gord\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]
12:02:19,916 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- File path settings: is C:\\Users\\Gord\JMRI\ [main]
12:02:19,916 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- File path home: is C:\\Users\\Gord\ [main]
12:02:19,916 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- File path scripts: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\jython\operations\ [main]
12:02:23,811 apps.PanelPro.PanelPro ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO ?- Main initialization done [main]

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Gord

Gord,

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So no messages to the system console after you've pressed the "Save" button in the Set Cars window?

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When you say you can not save changes, you do see the change in the Cars window after pressing "Save".? And only after you restart operations do you find that the data hasn't changed.? Correct?

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Please find the operations directory in ?D:\Users\Gord\Documents\JMRI Data office\SLN_RR__DUNDAS_SUB.jmri.? Check the last date modified for the cars file and the other 5.? Normally we would see an error or warning message in the system console if JMRI wasn't able to update the files.

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Dan

On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 12:24 PM, Gord King wrote:

12:02:19,916 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- File path preference: is D:\Users\Gord\Documents\JMRI Data office\SLN_RR__DUNDAS_SUB.jmri\ [main]
12:02:19,916 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- File path profile: is C:\Users\Gord\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]
12:02:19,916 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- File path settings: is C:\\Users\\Gord\JMRI\ [main]
12:02:19,916 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- File path home: is C:\\Users\\Gord\ [main]

Looks like there's an inconsistency in your path names. How did you change where JMRI finds your user data files?

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Dan

Dan,

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No messages after pressing 'save' when setting cars, locos, and locations, or when exiting cars, locos, and location pages.

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Yes I initially see the change in cars, locos, or locations, but the changes disappears after restarting.

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The last date car, locos, and locations files are modified is 240730

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On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 12:44 PM, Dan Boudreau wrote:

12:02:19,916 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- File path preference: is D:\Users\Gord\Documents\JMRI Data office\SLN_RR__DUNDAS_SUB.jmri\ [main]
12:02:19,916 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- File path profile: is C:\Users\Gord\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]

Normally these point to the same directory.? I'd like you to create a new profile, adjust to save to your D drive using the JMRI GUI.? Load the operations demo files, and see if changes get properly saved. If so, copy your operations files to the new profile and go from there.

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Dan

Dan,

"preference:" and "profile:" are the same unless ?"User Files Location" has been changed in "Preferences -> File Locations".?

Dave Sand

On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 03:11 PM, Dave Sand wrote:

"preference:" and "profile:" are the same unless ?"User Files Location" has been changed in "Preferences -> File Locations".?

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Thanks Dave,

After doing some testing, I don't believe having different preferences and profile paths is the reason for Gord's problems.

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Dan

Hi Dan,

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OK, I've completed your previous instructions, and have been using the program with new config and data file, and the program is now performing properly except for one problem.

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The problem is that it will not 'build' one particular train after I have set and saved cars and loco to build the train with.? On restart the changes I made for the cars and loco for this train are still there, but it will not 'build' the train.? Should I delete this train and rebuild from scratch???

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I am using the new data file, but I am going to keep the old data file until I have used the program for awhile just to make sure I've transferred all the data I need.

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Thanks Gord

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 01:46 PM, Gord King wrote:

The problem is that it will not 'build' one particular train after I have set and saved cars and loco to build the train with.?

I would examine the train's build report in very detailed mode to understand why it didn't build.? Post the build report if you want our help to understand why there's a failure.

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Dan

Hi Dan,

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I have attached the build report for train 18.? I went through it but couldn't identify the problem.

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Thanks Gord

On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 12:15 PM, Gord King wrote:

I went through it but couldn't identify the problem.

According to the build report, there isn't a problem.? Exactly what is the issue that you're not happy with?

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Dan

Hi Dan,

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I have to go back to the email I sent on Aug 30th.

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I completed your instructions setting up a new config and data file, but contrary to my previous response, the program is not performing properly.? Here's what is happening.? I will 'set' a car or a locomotive, and the new 'set' appears to be accepted, and they appear on the 'preview' as expected.? However when I 'save' and exit the program, then restart, the new settings have reverted to the previous settings, yet the 'new' setting still appear on the 'preview' until I make another change in settings.

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When I go into my data file, none of? car, engine, location, or route rosters files have been modified since 24-07-30 which is when my problem appeared.? The program auto backups are up to date, but the roster files in the backup still haven't been modified since 24-07-30.? It appears the program is not saving changes made.? Any ideas???

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Gord

On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 01:49 PM, Gord King wrote:

but the roster files in the backup still haven't been modified since 24-07-30.?

There's a directory under operations called "backups" not "backup".? Is that the directory you are searching?? Note that the "backups" directory is only updated when you press the "Backup" button in the Settings window.??

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When you start OperationsPro it automatically loads the last set of files saved by you.? You don't need to do a "Restore" or a load.

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Under the "operations" directory, you should find the six operation files with an "Date Modified" the last time you did a save.

Dan