Locked JMRI and NCE
开云体育Hello, ? I have JMRI connected to my layout with an NCE USB interface. I have software for the interface using COMM4. Since originally installing JMRI, I updated my computer to Windows 10. When I try to start DecoderPro I get this message in a window: “Unable to create connection "NCE2" (N2). ?Serial port COM4 is in use. Unable to run startup actions due to earlier failures.” I believe I have deleted “NCE2(N2). When I ignore message and continue to DecoderPro and select a locomotive the following error message appears at bottom of screen: “Service mode program NCE is offline and Operator mode program NCE is offline”. I spoke with Ed at NCE today and he said problem is with JMRI and Windows 10. What do I do? When I had Windows 7 Pro, I was able to set up 5 locomotives. ? Thank you, ? Ken Skopp Train Show Coordinator Grand River Valley Railroad Club 616-667-9680 ? ? ? ? ? |
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I dont know what the experts do, but when I get a com port error starting JMRI in Windows 10 I edit the com port setting and restart JMRI. Windows seems to change the com port arbitrarily when booting. Ken Moordigian On Monday, July 22, 2019 Kenneth Skopp <[email protected]> wrote: Hello, ? I have JMRI connected to my layout with an NCE USB interface. I have software for the interface using COMM4. Since originally installing JMRI, I updated my computer to Windows 10. When I try to start DecoderPro I get this message in a window: “Unable to create connection "NCE2" (N2). ?Serial port COM4 is in use. Unable to run startup actions due to earlier failures.” I believe I have deleted “NCE2(N2). When I ignore message and continue to DecoderPro and select a locomotive the following error message appears at bottom of screen: “Service mode program NCE is offline and Operator mode program NCE is offline”. I spoke with Ed at NCE today and he said problem is with JMRI and Windows 10. What do I do? When I had Windows 7 Pro, I was able to set up 5 locomotives. ? Thank you, ? Ken Skopp Train Show Coordinator Grand River Valley Railroad Club 616-667-9680 ? ? ? ? ? |
开云体育Hello Marc, ? I found the System Console Log. I have attached it below. I now have only one NCE connection now. ? Ken Skopp ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of forfoum@... ? On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 04:04 PM, Kenneth Skopp wrote:
Do you have a good reason to have a second NCE connection ?? You believe you deleted NCE2(N2).?? Clearly it was not deleted as per this message. 2019-07-23 05:59:00,298 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - * JMRI log ** [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:00,327 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\log\messages.log [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:00,327 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\log\session.log [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:00,327 apps.AppsBase???????????????????????? INFO? - DecoderPro version 4.16+R6f9aced starts under Java 1.8.0_181 on Windows 10 x86 v10.0 at Tue Jul 23 05:59:00 EDT 2019 [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:00,528 gui3.Apps3??????????????????????????? INFO? - Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3f3718c5 [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:00,809 node.NodeIdentity???????????????????? INFO ?- Using jmri-kyUuSdgurhNiaayakslegv-3f3718c5 as the JMRI storage identity for profile id 3f3718c5 [AWT-EventQueue-0] 2019-07-23 05:59:00,903 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "NCE" [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:01,278 usbdriver.UsbDriverAdapter??????????? ERROR - Serial port COM4 not found [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:01,278 jmrix.ConnectionConfigManager???????? ERROR - Unable to create jmri.jmrix.nce.usbdriver.configurexml.ConnectionConfigXml for [Element: <connection/>], load returned false [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:01,278 plementation.JmriConfigurationManager ERROR - Exception initializing jmri.jmrix.ConnectionConfigManager: Unable to create several of your connections. [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:01,987 jmri.InstanceManager?????????? ???????ERROR - Should not set default of type jmri.CommandStation to null value [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:01,987 managers.ManagerDefaultSelector?????? WARN? - SystemConnectionMemo for NCE (class jmri.jmrix.nce.NceSystemConnectionMemo) provides a null interface jmri.CommandStation instance [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:01,987 plementation.JmriConfigurationManager ERROR - Exception initializing jmri.managers.ManagerDefaultSelector: System connection NCE provides a null manager for interface jmri.CommandStation [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:02,096 plementation.JmriConfigurationManager ERROR - Exception initializing apps.StartupActionsManager: jmri.util.prefs.InitializationException: Unable to run startup actions due to earlier failures. [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path program: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\ [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path preference: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path profile: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path settings: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\ [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path home: is C:\Users\Ken\ [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path scripts: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:05,770 throttle.PowerManagerButton?????????? INFO? - No power manager instance found, panel not active [main]
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Ken W,
It is trying to open COM4 for the NCE connection. Use the Windows Device Manager to confirm which COM port it is using and that the driver is ok. Plugging and unplugging the connection at the computer should make it show up and go away from the 'Ports' list in the Device Manager. Right click on the COMx to see if it thinks the driver install is ok. That's in the properties. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.com www.syracusemodelrr.org |
开云体育Hello Again, ? The NCE USB interface is connect through the COMM4 port. When I load DecoderPro following screen appears which I have attached. Prior to getting Windows 10 I had Windows 7 Pro and JMRI worked. What do I need to check? How do I determine if USB interface is working? ? Ken Skopp ? ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kenneth Skopp via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 6:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [jmriusers] JMRI and NCE ? Hello Marc, ? I found the System Console Log. I have attached it below. I now have only one NCE connection now. ? Ken Skopp ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of forfoum@... ? On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 04:04 PM, Kenneth Skopp wrote:
Do you have a good reason to have a second NCE connection ?? You believe you deleted NCE2(N2).?? Clearly it was not deleted as per this message. 2019-07-23 05:59:00,298 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - * JMRI log ** [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:00,327 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\log\messages.log [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:00,327 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\log\session.log [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:00,327 apps.AppsBase???????????????????????? INFO? - DecoderPro version 4.16+R6f9aced starts under Java 1.8.0_181 on Windows 10 x86 v10.0 at Tue Jul 23 05:59:00 EDT 2019 [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:00,528 gui3.Apps3??????????????????????????? INFO? - Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3f3718c5 [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:00,809 node.NodeIdentity???????????????????? INFO ?- Using jmri-kyUuSdgurhNiaayakslegv-3f3718c5 as the JMRI storage identity for profile id 3f3718c5 [AWT-EventQueue-0] 2019-07-23 05:59:00,903 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "NCE" [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:01,278 usbdriver.UsbDriverAdapter??????????? ERROR - Serial port COM4 not found [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:01,278 jmrix.ConnectionConfigManager???????? ERROR - Unable to create jmri.jmrix.nce.usbdriver.configurexml.ConnectionConfigXml for [Element: <connection/>], load returned false [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:01,278 plementation.JmriConfigurationManager ERROR - Exception initializing jmri.jmrix.ConnectionConfigManager: Unable to create several of your connections. [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:01,987 jmri.InstanceManager?????????? ???????ERROR - Should not set default of type jmri.CommandStation to null value [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:01,987 managers.ManagerDefaultSelector?????? WARN? - SystemConnectionMemo for NCE (class jmri.jmrix.nce.NceSystemConnectionMemo) provides a null interface jmri.CommandStation instance [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:01,987 plementation.JmriConfigurationManager ERROR - Exception initializing jmri.managers.ManagerDefaultSelector: System connection NCE provides a null manager for interface jmri.CommandStation [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:02,096 plementation.JmriConfigurationManager ERROR - Exception initializing apps.StartupActionsManager: jmri.util.prefs.InitializationException: Unable to run startup actions due to earlier failures. [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path program: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\ [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path preference: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path profile: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path settings: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\ [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path home: is C:\Users\Ken\ [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path scripts: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main] 2019-07-23 05:59:05,770 throttle.PowerManagerButton?????????? INFO? - No power manager instance found, panel not active [main]
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开云体育Hi Marc, ? I did a snip of the screen and I see it is now a jpeg in my Download folder. How do I upload it to the file section? ? Ken ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of forfoum@... ? Ken, attachements are not permitted and will not come thru.? |
开云体育Hello Marc, Here is screen I get. ? Ken ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of forfoum@... ? Ken, attachements are not permitted and will not come thru.? |
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Ken S,
The cut/paste of the console log you sent shows JMRI asking for COM4, but the system saying COM4 not found. Insure everything is connected and powered up before starting JMRI. Also follow what I said before about using Windows Device Manager to confirm the hardware is really loading up at COM4 and no errors with drivers. We've found that Win10 updates sometimes disables drivers and they need to be loaded again. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.com www.syracusemodelrr.org |
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I double checked in Device Manager USB Interface using COMM4. When I start JMRI the Decoder Screen at bottom has NCE connected in green message. When I select a loco to program, the message changes to offline. How can I check that the USB Interface hardware connections are ok? Ken S. -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ken Cameron Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 11:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [jmriusers] JMRI and NCE Ken S, The cut/paste of the console log you sent shows JMRI asking for COM4, but the system saying COM4 not found. Insure everything is connected and powered up before starting JMRI. Also follow what I said before about using Windows Device Manager to confirm the hardware is really loading up at COM4 and no errors with drivers. We've found that Win10 updates sometimes disables drivers and they need to be loaded again. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.com www.syracusemodelrr.org |
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What should happen is it shows green thinking there is a connection. Within
10 seconds, it probes the interface to see if it replies right. If that fails, the connection turns red. You should do a cut/paste of the console log again so we can see that the port opened ok. Typical issue at this point (assuming the open worked) is the baud rate doesn't match. Now my next question is to confirm which make of interface and command station you are using. That will help clue me as to the next things to try to explain. The current console log will tell me what you are trying, but that might not be the right match for the hardware you have. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.com www.syracusemodelrr.org |
开云体育Hello, ? I have been doing some experimenting. I now have active JMRI 4.12 on my computer. I tried installing JMRI 4.16 without erasing 4.12. That did not work. I unstalled everything and tried JMRI 4.14. That did not work. I reinstalled 4.12 and now JMRI works with my NCE. Why? ? Ken Skopp ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jan Carr ?
Ken S: Do you have JMRI 4.16 installed as suggested earlier in this thread? Automatically defaulting to offline simulator mode when a connection problem occurred was a feature of older JMRI versions. |
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Ken S,
I think this is a direction to try. 1. First thing is cut/paste the console log from starting up with your working 4.12 system. This gives us a baseline of your setup. 2. Make sure you open/save any panel files you are using. 3. Make a minor change in the preferences, something you can change back, like add a startup action. 4. Those steps make sure the files are written at the 4.12 version level. 5. Update to 4.16. 6. Startup with 4.16 and cut/paste the console log. This will show what is or isn't not happening. Make no other changes. From this we can see the where you start and finish. Then we can give meaningful comments. Sometimes there are changes that make updates along the way. If someone is jumping too many versions, the old version might not be able to be correctly read by the new version. Making regular updates, the issue doesn't come up. For a while a new version will still read the old version files, but it is using old code we have replaced with new methods. Eventually we clean up things and remove that old code. That is when somebody who didn't do updates, and then did a load/save to save all new way entries will have an issue. It happens very seldom, but making a few more steps here should figure out if this is a part of your problem or if something else is happening. You might also use the Help->Upload Debug Info, it will send a package or details like your profile and log files, with some system details too. That may also give us more clues when it isn't working. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.com www.syracusemodelrr.org |
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Here are the JMRI 1.12 LOG and JMRI 4.16 Log. I am a computer novice computer novice. JMRI 1.12 Log 2019-07-24 09:14:55,777 util.Log4JUtil INFO - * JMRI log ** [main] 2019-07-24 09:14:55,893 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\log\messages.log [main] 2019-07-24 09:14:55,893 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\log\session.log [main] 2019-07-24 09:14:55,931 apps.AppsBase INFO - DecoderPro version 4.12+Rb6a9bb1 starts under Java 1.8.0_221 on Windows 10 x86 v10.0 at Wed Jul 24 09:14:55 EDT 2019 [main] 2019-07-24 09:14:56,580 gui3.Apps3 INFO - Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3f3718c5 [main] 2019-07-24 09:14:57,181 node.NodeIdentity INFO - Using jmri-kyUuSdgurhNiaayakslegv-3f3718c5 as the JMRI Node identity [AWT-EventQueue-0] 2019-07-24 09:14:57,620 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO - Starting to connect for "NCE" [main] 2019-07-24 09:14:58,322 usbdriver.UsbDriverAdapter INFO - NCE USB COM4 port opened at 9600 baud [main] 2019-07-24 09:14:59,642 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path program: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\ [main] 2019-07-24 09:14:59,642 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path preference: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main] 2019-07-24 09:14:59,642 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path profile: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main] 2019-07-24 09:14:59,642 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path settings: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\ [main] 2019-07-24 09:14:59,642 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path home: is C:\Users\Ken\ [main] 2019-07-24 09:14:59,642 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path scripts: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main] 2019-07-24 09:15:08,453 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 0 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:15:08,562 nce.NceConnectionStatus WARN - Incorrect or no response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:15:18,563 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 1 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:15:18,672 nce.NceConnectionStatus WARN - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:15:28,683 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 2 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:15:28,793 nce.NceConnectionStatus WARN - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:15:38,794 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 3 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:15:38,903 nce.NceConnectionStatus WARN - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:15:48,912 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 4 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:15:49,022 nce.NceConnectionStatus WARN - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:15:59,033 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 5 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:15:59,144 nce.NceConnectionStatus WARN - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] NCE 4.16. Log 2019-07-24 09:49:05,630 util.Log4JUtil INFO - * JMRI log ** [main] 2019-07-24 09:49:05,630 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\log\messages.log [main] 2019-07-24 09:49:05,630 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\log\session.log [main] 2019-07-24 09:49:05,646 apps.AppsBase INFO - DecoderPro version 4.16+R6f9aced starts under Java 1.8.0_221 on Windows 10 x86 v10.0 at Wed Jul 24 09:49:05 EDT 2019 [main] 2019-07-24 09:49:05,833 gui3.Apps3 INFO - Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3f3718c5 [main] 2019-07-24 09:49:06,271 node.NodeIdentity INFO - Using ec72de34-6564-4ed1-ac23-2fd88a2f64bc as the JMRI storage identity for profile id 3f3718c5 [AWT-EventQueue-0] 2019-07-24 09:49:07,208 profile.ProfileUtils INFO - Copying from old node "C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\profile\jmri-6002922C4195-3f3718c5" to new node "C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\profile\ec72de34-6564-4ed1-ac23-2fd88a2f 64bc" [AWT-EventQueue-0] 2019-07-24 09:49:07,458 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO - Starting to connect for "NCE" [main] 2019-07-24 09:49:07,458 jmrix.AbstractSerialPortController WARN - old profile format port speed value converted [main] 2019-07-24 09:49:07,603 usbdriver.UsbDriverAdapter INFO - NCE USB COM4 port opened at 9600 baud [main] 2019-07-24 09:49:07,728 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path program: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\ [main] 2019-07-24 09:49:07,728 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path preference: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main] 2019-07-24 09:49:07,728 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path profile: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main] 2019-07-24 09:49:07,728 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path settings: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\ [main] 2019-07-24 09:49:07,728 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path home: is C:\Users\Ken\ [main] 2019-07-24 09:49:07,728 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path scripts: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main] 2019-07-24 09:49:17,713 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 0 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:49:17,822 nce.NceConnectionStatus WARN - Incorrect or no response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:49:18,666 roster.LocoFile WARN - Did not find locofile variable "Forward Motor Trim" in decoder definition, not loading [AWT-EventQueue-0] 2019-07-24 09:49:18,666 roster.LocoFile WARN - Did not find locofile variable "Reverse Motor Trim" in decoder definition, not loading [AWT-EventQueue-0] 2019-07-24 09:49:27,823 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 1 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:49:27,933 nce.NceConnectionStatus WARN - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] m 2019-07-24 09:49:37,933 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 2 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:49:47,947 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AE C2 64 00 C9 06 consecutive timeouts = 3 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:49:57,957 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AE C2 64 00 C9 06 consecutive timeouts = 4 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:50:07,958 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AE C2 64 00 C9 06 consecutive timeouts = 5 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:50:17,960 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AE C2 64 00 C9 06 consecutive timeouts = 6 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:50:18,069 nce.NceConnectionStatus WARN - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:50:28,076 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 7 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:50:28,188 nce.NceConnectionStatus WARN - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:50:38,194 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 8 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:50:38,303 nce.NceConnectionStatus WARN - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:50:48,310 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 9 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:50:48,419 nce.NceConnectionStatus WARN - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:50:58,430 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 10 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:50:58,540 nce.NceConnectionStatus WARN - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:51:08,545 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 11 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:51:08,654 nce.NceConnectionStatus WARN - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:51:18,655 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 12 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:51:18,765 nce.NceConnectionStatus WARN - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:51:28,775 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 13 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:51:28,884 nce.NceConnectionStatus WARN - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:51:38,894 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 14 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:51:38,994 nce.NceConnectionStatus WARN - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:51:49,003 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 15 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:51:49,112 nce.NceConnectionStatus WARN - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ken Cameron Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 11:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [jmriusers] JMRI and NCE Ken S, I think this is a direction to try. 1. First thing is cut/paste the console log from starting up with your working 4.12 system. This gives us a baseline of your setup. 2. Make sure you open/save any panel files you are using. 3. Make a minor change in the preferences, something you can change back, like add a startup action. 4. Those steps make sure the files are written at the 4.12 version level. 5. Update to 4.16. 6. Startup with 4.16 and cut/paste the console log. This will show what is or isn't not happening. Make no other changes. From this we can see the where you start and finish. Then we can give meaningful comments. Sometimes there are changes that make updates along the way. If someone is jumping too many versions, the old version might not be able to be correctly read by the new version. Making regular updates, the issue doesn't come up. For a while a new version will still read the old version files, but it is using old code we have replaced with new methods. Eventually we clean up things and remove that old code. That is when somebody who didn't do updates, and then did a load/save to save all new way entries will have an issue. It happens very seldom, but making a few more steps here should figure out if this is a part of your problem or if something else is happening. You might also use the Help->Upload Debug Info, it will send a package or details like your profile and log files, with some system details too. That may also give us more clues when it isn't working. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.com www.syracusemodelrr.org |
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Ken,
The key in either version is this: 2019-07-24 09:15:08,453 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 0 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] 2019-07-24 09:15:08,562 nce.NceConnectionStatus WARN - Incorrect or no response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread] This says the USB is not responding. We get the port open in both cases, but no answer. So the next question is what are the jumper settings on the USB device? All on, all off, or which? If all are on, then you need to click the 'additional info' in the connection and try 19,200 baud rate. We should be seeing an answer that tells which version of interface you have. It should be something like version 7.3.* or 6.3.*. If we see that message, then we are talking to the USB device ok. If we are still having issues, then we'd start looking at the cables and a few other settings on the command station. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.com www.syracusemodelrr.org |
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Dave H,
Just to remind me, if the cab id is not valid in the USB, we still get the AA command acknowledged, but we'd not be able to talk to the command station, correct? I don't think that is any part of this issue, but checking what I remember. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.com www.syracusemodelrr.org |
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Hello Ken C.
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Since the LED lights do not work, I am checking with NCE today. I guess the problem must me with the USB interface. I will recap conversation with NCE after I talk with Ed. Ken S -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ken Cameron Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 7:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [jmriusers] JMRI and NCE Dave H, Just to remind me, if the cab id is not valid in the USB, we still get the AA command acknowledged, but we'd not be able to talk to the command station, correct? I don't think that is any part of this issue, but checking what I remember. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.com www.syracusemodelrr.org |
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