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I use the daily email digest. This give me a summary of the posts of the prior day. Easy to pick and choose which to read.
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In this way I monitor about 15 groups and it takes only minutes a day (not counting the time that I spend on the posts of interest).
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- John
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Re: After Windows 11 upgrade I can no longer communicate via NCE USB module
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This is in the log: ? 2025-03-09T08:34:45,387 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? INFO? - NCE: NCE EPROM revision = 7.3.0 [AWT-EventQueue-0] 2025-03-09T08:34:45,389 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? ERROR - NCE: System Connection is incorrect, detected USB connected to a PowerCab [AWT-EventQueue-0] ? Bill
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From: jmriusers@groups.io <jmriusers@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Cameron via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2025 12:21 PM
To: jmriusers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] After Windows 11 upgrade I can no longer communicate via NCE USB module? Bill, ? You should be seeing the id 7.3.7 in the logs. That says ‘all systems’ so JMRI lets that match any of the command stations. ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Re: NCE PowerPro with USB - no AIU getting to JMRI
#nce
Way beyond that level of troubleshooting… we’re into firmware updates, and detail analysis…
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On Mar 9, 2025, at 23:55, Inobu One via groups.io <one2beros@...> wrote:
? Did you change the Jumper setting? I think there are jumps that need to be set on the USB Interface to work on all systems.
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I thought there were exclusions to that the USB interface could send and relay.
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Byran, ? I have created a ‘spur/track’ which is a box for my cars that I rotate of the layout. Example I have a train that brings 5 cars on at the start of an operating session, then I physically place them where required. At the end of the session I have a train made up on a spur/track for off layout storage. I then physically remove the cars into the storage box. This allows me to keep the number of cars on the layout to a manageable level and ensure rotation of rolling stock. I do not have the physical space to build a storage yard etc. ? Noel ?
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From: jmriusers@groups.io <jmriusers@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bryan Wichmann via groups.io
Sent: Monday, 10 March 2025 1:43 PM
To: jmriusers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Track Analysis Tool #operationspro? This is the first I've heard of this tool and glad to learn more about OpsPro! ? Situation - some of my cars were not only "out of service" but also off layout (on the bench - the real RIP track!) and I also have a transport box to carry rolling stock to my club's train shows, etc. ?To "solve" the issue of the out of service cars taking up space on actual spurs and yard tracks, I created a location called OFF LAYOUT and just put two spurs there: workbench and travel box. ?Each spur being an arbitrary 1000' long and the location accepts all car types. Question - now when I play with my new found 'track analysis' tool, I see that my percentage fills are actually artificially low (because of the 2,000' of off layout spurs). ?Any other ideas on how to spot cars that are off layout and get a more accurate picture of how full my tracks are by car type?
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Re: NCE PowerPro with USB - no AIU getting to JMRI
#nce
Did you change the Jumper setting? I think there are jumps that need to be set on the USB Interface to work on all systems.
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I thought there were exclusions to that the USB interface could send and relay.
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John,
I did a test with 5.11.4 and linking works fine. ?
If you don't get the second dialog, look at the system console. ?Here is an intentional error:
22:21:19,009 ay.layoutEditor.PositionablePointView ERROR - EC1.setLink(); Can not set link until we have a connecting track with a block assigned [AWT-EventQueue-0]
Dave Sand
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Edge Connectors in Layout Editor. #layouteditor
Date: Sunday, March 09, 2025 9:19 PM
Dave,
I tested 5.11.4 trying to creating a link between two edge connectors as Stewart did and I am not seeing a dialogue box to complete the linking process either. ?I have created links in the recent past (sorry I can’t tell you which version).?
John ?Bauchiero
-?NCE PH-Pro & PowerCab, Pi4, DCC-EX
- JMRI 5.11.4
- Java 17.0.12
On Mar 9, 2025, at 9:57?PM, Dave Sand via groups.io <ds@...> wrote:
Stewart,
After trying to create a link, go to Help -> System Console. ?Click on the "Copy to clipboard" button and paste into a reply.
What are the two block names for the track segments attached to the two edge connectors?
You can also upload the layout data xml file to the group's ProblemsBeingWorkedOn file folder and we can review what you have done.
Dave Sand
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Edge Connectors in Layout Editor. #layouteditor
Date: Sunday, March 09, 2025 7:18 PM
Hi Dave,
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Many thanks for the response. The JMRI version is 5.10+Rca461bd266.
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My problem is, when I click on "Edit Links" in the Edge Connector dialogue box, nothing happens. According to Help, another dialogue box should open up. I have an Edge Connector connected to track in both of my Layout Panels, just can't connect them.
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Stewart
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This is the first I've heard of this tool and glad to learn more about OpsPro! ?
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Situation - some of my cars were not only "out of service" but also off layout (on the bench - the real RIP track!) and I also have a transport box to carry rolling stock to my club's train shows, etc. ?To "solve" the issue of the out of service cars taking up space on actual spurs and yard tracks, I created a location called OFF LAYOUT and just put two spurs there: workbench and travel box. ?Each spur being an arbitrary 1000' long and the location accepts all car types.
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Question - now when I play with my new found 'track analysis' tool, I see that my percentage fills are actually artificially low (because of the 2,000' of off layout spurs). ?Any other ideas on how to spot cars that are off layout and get a more accurate picture of how full my tracks are by car type?
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Dave,
I tested 5.11.4 trying to creating a link between two edge connectors as Stewart did and I am not seeing a dialogue box to complete the linking process either. ?I have created links in the recent past (sorry I can’t tell you which version).?
John ?Bauchiero
-?NCE PH-Pro & PowerCab, Pi4, DCC-EX - JMRI 5.11.4 - Java 17.0.12
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On Mar 9, 2025, at 9:57?PM, Dave Sand via groups.io <ds@...> wrote:
Stewart,
After trying to create a link, go to Help -> System Console. ?Click on the "Copy to clipboard" button and paste into a reply.
What are the two block names for the track segments attached to the two edge connectors?
You can also upload the layout data xml file to the group's ProblemsBeingWorkedOn file folder and we can review what you have done.
Dave Sand
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Edge Connectors in Layout Editor. #layouteditor
Date: Sunday, March 09, 2025 7:18 PM
Hi Dave,
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Many thanks for the response. The JMRI version is 5.10+Rca461bd266.
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My problem is, when I click on "Edit Links" in the Edge Connector dialogue box, nothing happens. According to Help, another dialogue box should open up. I have an Edge Connector connected to track in both of my Layout Panels, just can't connect them.
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Stewart
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I'm a fairly novice user, but understand this functionality in the TRAIN BUILD options. ?What I'm not grasping is how this would be any different? ?Why would this be needed at the ROUTE level?
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Stewart,
After trying to create a link, go to Help -> System Console. ?Click on the "Copy to clipboard" button and paste into a reply.
What are the two block names for the track segments attached to the two edge connectors?
You can also upload the layout data xml file to the group's ProblemsBeingWorkedOn file folder and we can review what you have done.
Dave Sand
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Edge Connectors in Layout Editor. #layouteditor
Date: Sunday, March 09, 2025 7:18 PM
Hi Dave,
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Many thanks for the response. The JMRI version is 5.10+Rca461bd266.
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My problem is, when I click on "Edit Links" in the Edge Connector dialogue box, nothing happens. According to Help, another dialogue box should open up. I have an Edge Connector connected to track in both of my Layout Panels, just can't connect them.
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Kind regards,
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Stewart
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Re: NCE PowerPro with USB - no AIU getting to JMRI
#nce
I have a couple days off this week, so i’m going to dig in and sort this out… i’ll keep you informed.?
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On Mar 9, 2025, at 17:16, Ken Cameron via groups.io <kcameron@...> wrote:
? Georgia, ? That sounds like an issue in the cab bus wiring. When you physically moved the AIU boards, you left them at the original addresses they had before? It might be worth rechecking the wires as if one of them isn’t in contact, that would account for it not being seen. ? It might also be helpful to document for us which throttle numbers, AIU numbers, and for the PowerCab, its cab number. Also the pattern of the cab bus, what connects to which and so on down the line. ? When you switch from the PowerCab to the PH5, do you change the cab id of the AIU or leave them the same? ? At least when you could see the AIU in the ‘Show Cabs’ did the sensors work for that AIU? ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Hi Dave,
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Many thanks for the response. The JMRI version is 5.10+Rca461bd266.
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My problem is, when I click on "Edit Links" in the Edge Connector dialogue box, nothing happens. According to Help, another dialogue box should open up. I have an Edge Connector connected to track in both of my Layout Panels, just can't connect them.
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Kind regards,
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Stewart
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This looks like an interesting development. I'm traveling now, but will definitely check this out when I get back home.
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oh my Silly Mistake,i have 2 Aiu of course mixed up the numbers.Apologies for wasting time
Brett
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Re: NCE backup via JMRI
#nce
Thanks Trevor.? That might be what I'm looking for.
JIm Little
Hi Jim,
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I don't have NCE equipment so this might not be what you're after, but I found this on the JMRI website:
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Maybe it is what you are looking for.
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Good luck!
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Trevor.
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Re: NCE backup via JMRI
#nce
Hi Jim,
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I don't have NCE equipment so this might not be what you're after, but I found this on the JMRI website:
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Maybe it is what you are looking for.
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Good luck!
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Trevor.
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Thankyou for expanation Inobu,will try today.Thats the step im missing.
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Re: NCE PowerPro with USB - no AIU getting to JMRI
#nce
Georgia, ? That sounds like an issue in the cab bus wiring. When you physically moved the AIU boards, you left them at the original addresses they had before? It might be worth rechecking the wires as if one of them isn’t in contact, that would account for it not being seen. ? It might also be helpful to document for us which throttle numbers, AIU numbers, and for the PowerCab, its cab number. Also the pattern of the cab bus, what connects to which and so on down the line. ? When you switch from the PowerCab to the PH5, do you change the cab id of the AIU or leave them the same? ? At least when you could see the AIU in the ‘Show Cabs’ did the sensors work for that AIU? ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Re: NCE PowerPro with USB - no AIU getting to JMRI
#nce
just an update...? ?Ken from JMRI sent a firmware update the for NCE Power Pro.? I installed that and form some reason I can see one AIU in the cabs but not both. I've gone thru all the correct addresses, and when I swap the AIUs physical position in the cab bus I can see the one I couldn't see before, but the first one tat was working i now gone..? between this and a week of teeth nashing.... I reinstalled my POWERCAB system and i'm using that for now, with everything operational as it should work.? I'm in the process of setting up a test bench for the PowerPro and a couple blocks ( BD20s, and two AIUs ) to try to simplify and figure out exactly what is happening.?
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I'm not accomplished enough yet with OpsPro to comment meaningfully, but it seems like a useful idea.
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CRZ
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John Bauchiero
Bruce A. Metcalf
Ken Cameron