The DN147 currently shown in DecoderPro is the model which became redundant in 2002. ?DN147K1C's are the 2024 variant which have a version number of 204 from memory.
I think it's unfortunate that Digitrax is essentially recycling an old designation and causing a bit of confusion.
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Harry,
The only decoder I can find is Digitrax DN147. I don't know the
difference between it and DN147K1C.
One option is to open an Issue on GitHub, requesting that decoder
to be added to JMRI.
Daniel
On 2024-10-08 02:26, n_trains wrote:
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I have JMRI v5.6 / Java 11.0.17 in my computer but cannot
find the newer decoder mention on the reference.
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Can anyone tell me if this decoder is included in a newer
version of JMRI?
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Thanks, Harry
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The speed issue is actually something I see with the decoder before even changing the address or reading it into the roster. The forward light is very dim in reverse, when it should be “off”. It does not exhibit this behavior in forward (ie. front headlight on, rear headlight is off as expected). I’ve seen this behavior on two other brand new DN147A0 boards. I’ve eliminated the possibility of short with motor leads on the frame halves with capton tape. With three boards in a row this is somewhat leading me to believe this is either hardware or software problem with the decoder itself, but wanted to verify all the CV settings and maybe turn off features like BEMF to test. ? Appreciate the help, Tim ?
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From: jmriusers@groups.io <jmriusers@groups.io> On Behalf Of pauldannenberg64 via groups.io Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 7:51 PM To: jmriusers@groups.io Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Digitrax DN147A0 definition for DecoderPro... ? Sorry I don't have a solution but I may be able prevent you from following some advice I got. Don't try to trick the DN147A0 (2024) to think it is a DN163A0 through DecoderPro. ?I tried and the result is with any change in throttle setting the loco will jump forwards suddenly and then resume the speed you set it at.? The loco will also make sudden jumps if it momentarily has a loss of track power ........ even the slightest loss of power which isn't noticeable normally. All I tried to change was the loco number. I have not got DN147A0 (2024) definition in DecoderPro 4.26 or on 5.6 which our clubs programming computer has. ?I don't know if newer versions of DecoderPro have DN147A0's (2024) in the decoder list. If not we may have to wait until a few test versions of DecoderPro get sorted out. The reset function does not correct the DN147A0 (2024). I guess "reset" cannot correct something it does not recognise.
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I have JMRI v5.6 / Java 11.0.17 in my computer but cannot find the newer decoder mention on the reference.
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Can anyone tell me if this decoder is included in a newer version of JMRI?
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Thanks, Harry
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Thanks for that information, Ken. The block signal was one of the thing the I was never clear on the concept of how to work it. No problem in making it an ABS signal. JMRI makes it easy!
Doug Wagner
Bakersfield, California
In a message dated 10/07/24 16:27:50 Pacific Daylight Time, kcameron@... writes:
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Doug,
Only thing I see is the intermediate signal between Bealville and Cliff would not be under dispatch control. It would just be ABS between the other signals. You can keep the block detectors showing so you can watch the progress. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Sorry I don't have a solution but I may be able prevent you from following some advice I got.
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Don't try to trick the DN147A0 (2024) to think it is a DN163A0 through DecoderPro. ?I tried and the result is with any change in throttle setting the loco will jump forwards suddenly and then resume the speed you set it at.?
The loco will also make sudden jumps if it momentarily has a loss of track power ........ even the slightest loss of power which isn't noticeable normally.
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All I tried to change was the loco number.
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I have not got DN147A0 (2024) definition in DecoderPro 4.26 or on 5.6 which our clubs programming computer has. ?I don't know if newer versions of DecoderPro have DN147A0's (2024) in the decoder list. If not we may have to wait until a few test versions of DecoderPro get sorted out.
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The reset function does not correct the DN147A0 (2024). I guess "reset" cannot correct something it does not recognise.
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Doug,
Only thing I see is the intermediate signal between Bealville and
Cliff would not be under dispatch control. It would just be ABS
between the other signals. You can keep the block detectors showing so
you can watch the progress.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
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Pete,
Yes the detailed build report did help.
First issue: I had entered the wrong car length for my Cement hoppers (too long) for their assigned car spots.
Second issue: While making some changes I accidentally unselected a car type to be used at a Trans load location, so the cars of course had no where to go to from staging.
These two issues where causing build fails and as you noted the problems where not seen on the less detailed Build reports, however the very detailed reports brought the problems to light plus one other that I posted in another ?thread, so the lesson for me is to be patient and actually read the build reports once in a while (especially with a fail) in the very detailed setting.
Joe Z.
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Ermanno,
That feature doesn't exists today, but it will be added by PR
#13514.
Daniel
On 2024-10-07 06:43, Ermanno V wrote:
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I have a
LogixNG which changes the throttle speed of a locomotive (tag
id) based on an RFID Reporter.? The LogixNG detects
the locomotive and appropriately reduces the speed of the
current reported Locomotive.?
(The LogixNG does NOT set the speed to zero is merely
reduces the speed).? The LogixNG only uses the current value
of the Reporter, not the last reported.
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The issue is
that whenever a new locomotive is reported in the same
Reporter, and the LogixNG reduces its speed, the throttle
speed for the previous locomotive (which was
reported and processed by the LogixNG) is
concurrently set to ZERO.
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I have
checked the system log and the LogixNG only sends out the
throttle speed to the current reported locomotive.
The Loconet
Monitor shows the message “Set Speed of Loco in Slot 6 to 0.
(Slot 6 is the previous locomotive that was reported).
Loconet Slots
also shows that the previous locomotive slot changes
from In-Use to IDLE.
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Is anyone
aware of any settings/LogixNG characteristics ?which would
direct/influence this behaviour?
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System
Information attached.
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Any
suggestions welcomed.
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Asked and answered several days ago.
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Steve
"Breezlys"
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DN147A0 is the replacement for the DN163A0 board, just wondering if a decoder definition exists or comparable existing definition. Currently the DN147 that does exist appears to be an older definition. Apologies if this has already been covered, my search came up with no results.?
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Thanks,
Tim
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Hi Jim,
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Not completely sure what you're asking.? But there are various options for a consist.? You can have the program build a consist from individual locos.
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The program will add or remove locos if the HPT isn't 0.
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If you don't have the option to dynamically build your consist, then for example, if you request 3 locomotives, the program has to find a consist with 3 locomotives.? If you select the option to build a consist dynamically, the program first tries to find a consist with 3 locos, and if not found, the program has to find 3 individual locos that aren't consisted.?
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So the short answer is that if you request some number of locomotives in the Edit Train window, that's the number the program will assign if the HPT is equal to 0.
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Dan
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Thats's it.?
Thanks Ash. JeanLouisDelestre@...
De: "Ash__" <mcc9345@...> ?: jmriusers@groups.io 贰苍惫辞测é: Lundi 7 Octobre 2024 16:41:52 Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Problem with a very simple signaling #dcc-ex #signals Jean-Louis,
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Perhaps there is a setup step needed to select the BSTURNOUT 'Mode'.
To display the Mode column, use the checkbox in the turnouts table screen:
Show Feedback Information
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The mode dropdown should be set to
DIRECT - for DCC accessory/turnout decoder commands
BSTURNOUT? - for vpin/other turnout Throw/Close commands
BSOUTPUT - for vpin digital output accessories
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Use the 'Show Raw Data' checkbox in the Traffic Monitor to see the commands sent.
?-- examples:
15:26:08.441: [a 106 3 1] ?
15:26:11.261: [a 106 3 0] ?
15:26:21.231: [T 424 1] ?
15:26:21.233: [H 424 1] ?
15:26:23.867: [T 424 0] ?
15:26:23.869: [H 424 0] ?
15:26:33.210: [Z 424 0] ?
15:26:33.212: [X] ?? ? ? ? ? ?- X reply means it is not defined as digital output
15:26:34.303: [Z 424 1] ?
15:26:34.305: [X] ?
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Jean-Louis,
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Perhaps there is a setup step needed to select the BSTURNOUT 'Mode'.
To display the Mode column, use the checkbox in the turnouts table screen:
Show Feedback Information
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The mode dropdown should be set to
DIRECT - for DCC accessory/turnout decoder commands
BSTURNOUT? - for vpin/other turnout Throw/Close commands
BSOUTPUT - for vpin digital output accessories
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Use the 'Show Raw Data' checkbox in the Traffic Monitor to see the commands sent.
?-- examples:
15:26:08.441: [a 106 3 1] ?
15:26:11.261: [a 106 3 0] ?
15:26:21.231: [T 424 1] ?
15:26:21.233: [H 424 1] ?
15:26:23.867: [T 424 0] ?
15:26:23.869: [H 424 0] ?
15:26:33.210: [Z 424 0] ?
15:26:33.212: [X] ?? ? ? ? ? ?- X reply means it is not defined as digital output
15:26:34.303: [Z 424 1] ?
15:26:34.305: [X] ?
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When having a built consist 2,3 Loco's the requirement is one loco and not the two or three in"Edit Train: " operational locomotive requirements " another words no how many Loco's consisted they count as one ? When consisted in JMRI OPS Pro.
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Andy,
Probably. ?If you upload your xml data file to the group's ProblemsBeingWorkedOn file folder, we can see what can be done.
Dave Sand
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] path speeds between signal mst
Date: Monday, October 07, 2024 4:30 AM
Third issue is my trains always stop at BR2003 semaphore caution signals, rather than simply slowing down - is there a way to fix that?
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Ash,
Thanks, but that was not really my question.
I? have three double coil turnouts defined in myTurnout.h :
// Turnout declarations
ALIAS(T1, 200)
ALIAS(T2, 201)
ALIAS(T3, 202)
// Dual_Coil turnouts
DUAL_COIL_TURNOUT(T1, 40, 41, 42, "Turnout 1")
DUAL_COIL_TURNOUT(T2, 43, 44, 45, "Turnout 2")
DUAL_COIL_TURNOUT(T3, 46, 47, 48, "Turnout 2")
I can see them in Configure DCC base station as Vpin.
I can see them in JRMI the turnout table.
But, when I click to change the state? this is what I can see on the DCC monitor:
Strange ....
Any idea ?
JeanLouisDelestre@...
De: "Ash__" <mcc9345@...> ?: jmriusers@groups.io 贰苍惫辞测é: Lundi 7 Octobre 2024 10:39:30 Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Problem with a very simple signaling #dcc-ex #signals RE:? the DCC accessory command
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LEDs can be connected to a DCC accessory decoder.??Some features in JMRI may provide the option to select how the LED is connected -- and provide the command needed.? Others may not have that flexibility.
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For example, the JMRI Lights table only sends DCC accessory commands.? If you want to use the Lights table with DCC-EX vpin outputs, there is a work-around which uses myFilter.cpp in the DCC-EX sketch.
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You may want to approach the issue by figuring out what signaling option to implement.
JMRI has various options
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DCC-EX also has logic which can enable setting LEDs based on turnout state.
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SIGNAL(36, 0, 37) ?// vpins red/amber/green
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ONTHROW(3) ?// turnout ID 3
? RED(36)
DONE
ONCLOSE(3)
? GREEN(36)
DONE
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Third issue is my trains always stop at BR2003 semaphore caution signals, rather than simply slowing down - is there a way to fix that?
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RE:? the DCC accessory command
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LEDs can be connected to a DCC accessory decoder.??Some features in JMRI may provide the option to select how the LED is connected -- and provide the command needed.? Others may not have that flexibility.
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For example, the JMRI Lights table only sends DCC accessory commands.? If you want to use the Lights table with DCC-EX vpin outputs, there is a work-around which uses myFilter.cpp in the DCC-EX sketch.
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You may want to approach the issue by figuring out what signaling option to implement.
JMRI has various options
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DCC-EX also has logic which can enable setting LEDs based on turnout state.
? ? - - example:
SIGNAL(36, 0, 37) ?// vpins red/amber/green
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ONTHROW(3) ?// turnout ID 3
? RED(36)
DONE
ONCLOSE(3)
? GREEN(36)
DONE
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And the turnouts are set to Global Normal and Global Restricted. I think it must be the Global Restricted that is inserting the 15s into my SML logic table?
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n_trains
Doug Wagner
Ken Cameron