Dave,
Thanks for your help
I'll try reinstating Sections, Transits and dispatcher, change the colour of my tracks, and upload the xml if it still doesn't work.
I probably ought to do some research on US signalling practice, I'm more used to European systems.
Alasdair
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Alasdair,
Since you have defined the layout structure using Layout Editor, Dispatcher is probably your best choice for automation.
Layout Editor based NX is designed to implement NX based dispatching, not automation. ?It is an alternative to CTC dispatching. ?In the US, the Union Pacific used NX. ?If the block topology is valid, then NX pairs using the Interlocking option will set turnouts.
When you edit a track component, you change the the normal, occupied and reserved block colors by selecting "Create/Edit Block".
If you upload your panel xml file to the ProblemsBeingWorkedOn folder, someone can take a look at it and see if there are Dispatcher issues.
Dave Sand
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From: Alasdair <alasdair.graebner@...>
To: jmriusers@groups.io
Subject: [jmriusers] Automating a layout with a Panel Pro #layouteditor #automation
Date: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 1:15 PM
System Details:
MERG CBUS using CANUSB for infrastructure control
Lenz LZ100 via Lenz USB to run trains
I'm using resistive wheelsets and block occupancy detection
Points are all SEEP solenoid motors, providing frog switching, but no feedback
I was looking for some advice, on how best to automate my layout.
I've drawn up the railway in layout editor, and linked up the block sensors and points. Currently all signals are imaginary (JMRI internal only) using signal masts at block boundaries.The switches all throw correctly from the Turnout list or by clicking on the diagram symbol. The signals work correctly based on track occupancy and switch settings, but I'm struggling to get automation working. My questions are:
1. Should I be trying to use transits and dispatcher, or NX routing, or warrants, or something else?
2. I've tried using NX routing but it wont set the switches - any ideas why?
3. When I tried using dispatcher, it didn't like driving the trains in auto (Throttle window appears, can drive manually, but auto has zero speed) - any idea why?
4. How do I change the colour of a track section from white when it is reserved for a route? with a white background to the panel, the track just dissapears!
Many thanks
Alasdair
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System Details:
MERG CBUS using CANUSB for infrastructure control
Lenz LZ100 via Lenz USB to run trains
I'm using resistive wheelsets and block occupancy detection
Points are all SEEP solenoid motors, providing frog switching, but no feedback
I was looking for some advice, on how best to automate my layout.
I've drawn up the railway in layout editor, and linked up the block sensors and points. Currently all signals are imaginary (JMRI internal only) using signal masts at block boundaries.The switches all throw correctly from the Turnout list or by clicking on the diagram symbol. The signals work correctly based on track occupancy and switch settings, but I'm struggling to get automation working. My questions are:
1. Should I be trying to use transits and dispatcher, or NX routing, or warrants, or something else?
2. I've tried using NX routing but it wont set the switches - any ideas why?
3. When I tried using dispatcher, it didn't like driving the trains in auto (Throttle window appears, can drive manually, but auto has zero speed) - any idea why?
4. How do I change the colour of a track section from white when it is reserved for a route? with a white background to the panel, the track just dissapears!
Many thanks
Alasdair
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Re: DecoderPro Preferences folder is empty
Dave,
I will uninstall all JMRI references, i.e. programs & registry a little later today. First, I have to clean up the "workspace" while trying to make sense of all the paper I've printed. Almost?as bad as IBM, 12 lineal feet of manuals with every new system we ordered. BUT, the info was there, you may have to hunt but it was there.
Steps I'm doing to use to remove all references to JMRI: - Uninstall JMRI
- Back up the registry
- Go through the registry deleting references to JMRI?
- Found 6 Keys items
- Found 24 Values items
- Found 55 Data items
- The data items that are Office products I've produced I will leave
- All my Office products are on E:\
- JMRI is installed with all the defaults & ALL users on C:\
- Now the conundrum, do I install 4.17.6 or do I go back to 4.16???
- 4.17.6 is probably the best choice because of the newest decoder choices
- I currently have the Walthers Mainline Wabash F7A-B units
- They have the ESU Essential Sound Unit decoder????
- Story for another day
Okay, I will start this process in a couple of hours.
Progress will be reported later - Dennis Munro
On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 12:09 AM Dave Heap < dgheap@...> wrote: Had this happen to me the other night. Had 4.17.6 and 4.17.1 installed on system, one as "This user only" and other
" for all Users" .. Apps& features showed a single instance of JMRI? but I had multiple icons on desktop. When I removed/Uninstalled JMRI 4.17.6, the App&features then showed a JMRI 4.17.1 as present ? and I could not remove it.? Going thru registry cleared up that mess.
If you had to manually clean up the registry, you should follow the instructions below:
JMRI Cleanup Windows
If you may have multiple JMRI versions installed, possibly one for "All Users" and one for "This User only".
- Go to Control Panel-> "Programs and Features" and keep uninstalling JMRI, refreshing (F5) every time until all are gone. - Then navigate to "C:\Program Files (x86)\" and delete any JMRI folder if present. - Then navigate to "C:\Users\<yourusername>\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\" and delete any "\Program Files (x86)\JMRI" folder if present (you'll need to enable display of hidden files/folders). - **Don't delete** "C:\Users\<yourusername>\JMRI\". It has your data. - Then reinstall JMRI for "All Users".
Dave in Australia
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Thanks for that Perry.
Has been updated now and will usually be incorporated in the next Production release.
If you're interested, you can follow the process of this getting into JMRI on GitHub at?
Best regards,
Matt H
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Re: Layout editor Track drawing options not showing on web panel
Note: the web client does support each block using different colors; you may be able to use that to further distinguish your tracks.
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Re: Layout editor Track drawing options not showing on web panel
It’s on my to-do list… but pretty far down… :(
The panel.js file need some major refactoring… but without any way to write test cases it’s very fragile… at the very least I’d like to see it use TypeScript over JavaScript… but that’s going to require someone with build mojo (not me).
On the plus side I did add decorations support! The web client now supports arrows, bridges, end bumpers and tunnels! ;-)
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The Signal Mast Repeaters section in the documentation has a typo on line 2 that says, " ..., and van be set as Slave, ...", instead of, "..., and can be set as Slave,...). The bold face added by me to identify needed change. ?The documentation could use ?the addition of a statement that indicates that the Signal Masts must be Stored prior to attempting use of the Repeaters tool.
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Re: Printing route point settings
Renton,
You want to move the script to your User Files Location. ?Use Help >> Locations and select the Open User Files Locations. ?The Finder will start at that location. ?Never change the contents of the JMRI install.
To simplify running custom scripts, go to Preferences >> File Locations. ?Copy the contents of User Files Location to the Jython Script Location field and then save the Preferences. ?After re-starting, the Run Script window will open at the user files location.
Dave Sand
----- Original message -----
From: "Renton Charman via Groups.Io" <renton.charman@...>
To: jmriusers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Printing route point settings
Date: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 4:35 AM
Hi Dave, Looks useful, thanks for the help. However I am not familiar with Java and cannot find the Jython folder on my Mac, do I need to run another programme to set it up? When I follow your instructions and "Run Script" the Jython folder comes up with a list of scripts. I obviously have to get your script in that folder but cannot find it!
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Re: JMRI panel pro Sections
Tim,
I assume you are talking about an occupancy sensor. ?Since the occupancy sensor represents occupancy state for trackage between two block boundaries, the corresponding track components on the layout editor panel would all have the same block assignment.
If you used the "Automatically Assign Blocks to Track" feature, you will need to change the block assignments.
Dave Sand
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From: Tim Norton <Acka_norton@...>
To: jmriusers@groups.io
Subject: [jmriusers] JMRI panel pro Sections
Date: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 4:17 AM
Hey everyone?
I am trying to create a layout and trying to get multiple blocks on layout editor controlled by one single sensor how do I do this.?
thsnks Tim
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Re: Printing route point settings
Hi Dave, Looks useful, thanks for the help. However I am not familiar with Java and cannot find the Jython folder on my Mac, do I need to run another programme to set it up? When I follow your instructions and "Run Script" the Jython folder comes up with a list of scripts. I obviously have to get your script in that folder but cannot find it!
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JMRI panel pro Sections
Hey everyone?
I am trying to create a layout and trying to get multiple blocks on layout editor controlled by one single sensor how do I do this.?
thsnks Tim
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train setSpeedSetting tracking
Hi, i am looking for a way to tell when a train has actually stopped through issuing throttle.setSpeedSetting(0) or has reached the actual setting issued through issuing the command?throttle.setSpeedSetting(0.4) for example. Is this possible?
Thanks Jim
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Re: DecoderPro Preferences folder is empty
Had this happen to me the other night. Had 4.17.6 and 4.17.1 installed on system, one as "This user only" and other
" for all Users" .. Apps& features showed a single instance of JMRI? but I had multiple icons on desktop. When I removed/Uninstalled JMRI 4.17.6, the App&features then showed a JMRI 4.17.1 as present ? and I could not remove it.? Going thru registry cleared up that mess.
If you had to manually clean up the registry, you should follow the instructions below:
JMRI Cleanup Windows
If you may have multiple JMRI versions installed, possibly one for "All Users" and one for "This User only".
- Go to Control Panel-> "Programs and Features" and keep uninstalling JMRI, refreshing (F5) every time until all are gone. - Then navigate to "C:\Program Files (x86)\" and delete any JMRI folder if present. - Then navigate to "C:\Users\<yourusername>\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\" and delete any "\Program Files (x86)\JMRI" folder if present (you'll need to enable display of hidden files/folders). - **Don't delete** "C:\Users\<yourusername>\JMRI\". It has your data. - Then reinstall JMRI for "All Users".
Dave in Australia
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Re: PanelPro Display Issue for AnyRail Export
I think I figured out why my display is missing parts, because I have a short in my layout panel, but in reality it?is a gapped self reversing block. ?Any advice how to set that up in the layout editor? ?Attachments coming soon.
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Re: DecoderPro Preferences folder is empty
To All:
JMRI 4.17.6 was installed with all the defaults taken & also "all" users.
I printed out the Profile Directory Tutorial from the link you posted & will get that read. I also printed out the Install Guide: Windows & see what all happens.
Thanks - Dennis Munro
On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 6:15 PM Dave Heap < dgheap@...> wrote: Dennis,
> On 10 Dec 2019, at 8:49 AM, The Munros <the.berlin.munros@...> wrote:
>
> I also was looking at the authority of LaunchJMRI.exe after the install.? "Users" have only Read & Execute & Read authority.? I am generally inclined to run an important app with admin authority.? Is that a problem?? Admins & System users have full authority.? LaunchJMRI is in the same folder as the InstallTest batch file but here I probably right clicked the batch file & clicked Run as Administrator.
JMRI should be installed "For All Users" (install with administrator privileges) but after this it's fine to run LaunchJMRI.exe with user privileges. JMRI runtime never attempts to modify the "C:\Program Files(x86)\JMRI\" directory hierarchy. The basic JMRI Settings are stored in "C:\Users\<yourusername>\JMRI\" (The Settings Location in Help->Locations). Other settings are stored in Profile Location and a few in User Files Location.
Installing JMRI "For This User Only" is not generally recommended and can lead to problems, not the least of which is two JMRI installations; one in the "C:\Program Files(x86)\JMRI\" directory and another in the user's hidden AppData...VirtualStore...JMRI hierarchy (not at a Windows machine to give exact path now), with the user being exposed to a an overlay of the two. This is usually manifest as two JMRI installations in Programs and Features, but manually cleaning out any JMRI references in the registry would erase such evidence and require a manual clean out of both locations.
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BTW: For any Linux users, running JMRI as root can cause persistent problems with variants such as Ubuntu, Mint, etc.
Dave in Australia
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Re: DecoderPro Preferences folder is empty
Dennis, On 10 Dec 2019, at 8:49 AM, The Munros <the.berlin.munros@...> wrote:
I also was looking at the authority of LaunchJMRI.exe after the install. "Users" have only Read & Execute & Read authority. I am generally inclined to run an important app with admin authority. Is that a problem? Admins & System users have full authority. LaunchJMRI is in the same folder as the InstallTest batch file but here I probably right clicked the batch file & clicked Run as Administrator. JMRI should be installed "For All Users" (install with administrator privileges) but after this it's fine to run LaunchJMRI.exe with user privileges. JMRI runtime never attempts to modify the "C:\Program Files(x86)\JMRI\" directory hierarchy. The basic JMRI Settings are stored in "C:\Users\<yourusername>\JMRI\" (The Settings Location in Help->Locations). Other settings are stored in Profile Location and a few in User Files Location. Installing JMRI "For This User Only" is not generally recommended and can lead to problems, not the least of which is two JMRI installations; one in the "C:\Program Files(x86)\JMRI\" directory and another in the user's hidden AppData...VirtualStore...JMRI hierarchy (not at a Windows machine to give exact path now), with the user being exposed to a an overlay of the two. This is usually manifest as two JMRI installations in Programs and Features, but manually cleaning out any JMRI references in the registry would erase such evidence and require a manual clean out of both locations. <> BTW: For any Linux users, running JMRI as root can cause persistent problems with variants such as Ubuntu, Mint, etc. Dave in Australia
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Re: Recover definition on decoder pro
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Re: MTH DIESEL PROGRAMMING
You are correct Alfredo. F6 sets the volume. There is also a pot in the bottom of the locomotive, but it seems to have no effect. Unfortunately, the lowest volume is still too loud for my small room in my opinion. I may have to look at changing out the decoder eventually.?
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