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Seeking recommended 27" monitor


 

Hello

What are your best suggestions for a 27 inch monitor for my new Mac mini ?

Best affordable resolution, of course.

Apple monotors are nice, but financially out of reach ¡­ what are the best alternatives?

Thanks in advance,

Peter


 

On Jun 30, 2023, at 2:44 AM, Peter Rasmusen <peter@...> wrote:

What are your best suggestions for a 27 inch monitor for my new Mac mini ?

¡­ what are the best alternatives?

Different people will disagree over this. But here are a couple that are dynamite deals right now:

YEYIAN ODRAZ 27¡± IPS Panel HDR 4K UHD Slim Bezel PC Gaming Monitor 3840x2160, 1 Billion Colors, Low Blue, 300cd/m2, 1000:1, 60Hz, 5ms, 16:9, 178¡ã, G-Sync, FreeSync, DP/HDMI/USB, Speakers, VESA, Tilt
$250


AOC U2790VQ 27" 4K 3840x2160 UHD Frameless Monitor, IPS, 5ms
$250




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Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

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On 30 Jun 2023, at 12:18, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:

Different people will disagree over this. But here are a couple that are dynamite deals right now:

YEYIAN ODRAZ 27¡± IPS Panel HDR 4K UHD Slim Bezel PC Gaming Monitor 3840x2160, 1 Billion Colors, Low Blue, 300cd/m2, 1000:1, 60Hz, 5ms, 16:9, 178¡ã, G-Sync, FreeSync, DP/HDMI/USB, Speakers, VESA, Tilt
$250


AOC U2790VQ 27" 4K 3840x2160 UHD Frameless Monitor, IPS, 5ms
$250


The go-to brand used to be Samsung. Do they still make monitors worth considering but others are just better value now?

Otto



 

On Jun 30, 2023, at 4:24 AM, Otto Nikolaus via groups.io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

The go-to brand used to be Samsung. Do they still make monitors worth considering but others are just better value now?
Samsung and LG make the best high-end (OLED) panels, and Samsung makes all of it¡¯s own components.

Samsung used to make all of Apple¡¯s (over-priced) monitors for them.

If you want a genuine Samsung, you will have to pay a bit more, but some people would prefer to. Here is a good deal on a 27-inch Samsung:

SAMSUNG U28R550UQNX 28" 4K UHD Monitor with AMD Free Sync
$280



By the way, if what you want is a more affordable, but still ultra-high end alternative to Apple¡¯s Studio Display, check out:

Alogic¡¯s Clarity 27-Inch 4K Monitor
$800



__________________________________________________

Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

__________________________________________________


 



On 30 Jun 2023, at 12:40, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:

Samsung and LG make the best high-end (OLED) panels, and Samsung makes all of it¡¯s own components.

Samsung used to make all of Apple¡¯s (over-priced) monitors for them.

If you want a genuine Samsung, you will have to pay a bit more, but some people would prefer to. Here is a good deal on a 27-inch Samsung:

SAMSUNG U28R550UQNX 28" 4K UHD Monitor with AMD Free Sync
$280



By the way, if what you want is a more affordable, but still ultra-high end alternative to Apple¡¯s Studio Display, check out:

Alogic¡¯s Clarity 27-Inch 4K Monitor
$800


Thanks Randy. I thought that might be the case. I'm not interested at the moment but like to keep up with what's out there.

Otto



 

Thank you Randy

250 USD seems absolutely reasonable :-)

Peter

Den 30. jun. 2023 kl. 13.18 skrev Randy B. Singer <randy@...>:



On Jun 30, 2023, at 2:44 AM, Peter Rasmusen <peter@...> wrote:

What are your best suggestions for a 27 inch monitor for my new Mac mini ?

¡­ what are the best alternatives?

Different people will disagree over this. But here are a couple that are dynamite deals right now:

YEYIAN ODRAZ 27¡± IPS Panel HDR 4K UHD Slim Bezel PC Gaming Monitor 3840x2160, 1 Billion Colors, Low Blue, 300cd/m2, 1000:1, 60Hz, 5ms, 16:9, 178¡ã, G-Sync, FreeSync, DP/HDMI/USB, Speakers, VESA, Tilt
$250


AOC U2790VQ 27" 4K 3840x2160 UHD Frameless Monitor, IPS, 5ms
$250




__________________________________________________

Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

__________________________________________________









 

On Jun 30, 2023, at 5:04 AM, Peter Rasmusen <peter@...> wrote:

250 USD seems absolutely reasonable :-)
Let me quickly tell you a story.

My wife decided that she needed a small monitor to attach to her monitor for use at home. She didn¡¯t talk to me about it, she just did some research and ordered one.

She told me about it when it was on its way. It was an AOC, which I hadn¡¯t even heard of at the time. I asked her how much it was, and she told me that it was UNDER $100. I was worried that, for the price, that it might not even turn on. How could a nice monitor be under $100, I thought.

The monitor showed up, she hooked it up to her laptop, and¡­it was beautiful. I was stunned.

So, I learned that off-brand monitors can be really nice. Not just AOC either. I¡¯ve seen several monitors with unrecognizable brand names that have had beautiful displays. It all depends on where they get their components from, I guess.


__________________________________________________

Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

__________________________________________________


 

I think you're very right ... the panels probably all come from 2 og 3 sources ... so we pay for brand name, design and the physical build of the monitors ... and some do it better that other :-)?


 

I was working on the road and really missed having a second monitor so on a visit to Costco I thought I would pick up a "economical" 27 inch monitor and worry about how to get it home later.?

Well needless to say they had a? LG 32" on sale in the store and decided go with it.? I am not a gamer or graphics guru, but was blown away with the resolution of the monitor that was $200.?? That was a year ago, since then I now travel with my monitor if I am driving to a project, AND I also picked up a 32" for the home office.

So nice to have that extra real estate.

https://www.costco.com/monitors.html?price=50-100+100-200&refine=%7C%7Citem_location_pricing_salePrice-50%2Bto%2B100%7C%7Citem_location_pricing_salePrice-100%2Bto%2B200


 

On Jul 1, 2023, at 6:00 AM, Gary Gildner <gary@...> wrote:

Well needless to say they had a LG 32" on sale in the store and decided go with it. I am not a gamer or graphics guru, but was blown away with the resolution of the monitor that was $200.
That is a good price for a big monitor, but I do want to point out that it is not a 4K monitor, nor does it have an IPS panel (it is VA). However, I¡¯m sure that it looks really good. Many users who aren¡¯t into graphics or video production can¡¯t even tell the difference between a 1080p monitor and a 4K monitor.






__________________________________________________

Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

__________________________________________________


 

A little help with some basics, please.

I looked up IPS panel, but what is VA?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Jul 2, 2023, at 22:46, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:

That is a good price for a big monitor, but I do want to point out that it is not a 4K monitor, nor does it have an IPS panel (it is VA).


Paul Lundgren
 

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I¡¯ve been using iMac for sometime but I¡¯m now considering the Mac Mini M2. I use my Mac for Photoshop and Lightroom ¨C no video to speak of and no gaming. I have been happy with the iMacs monitors up to now.?

Your recommendations are appreciated but I¡¯m uncertain about how a non Mac monitor would ¡°work¡± with a Mac Mini. How do they compare with the iMac monitor? ?I understand 4K but all these monitors come with long lists of confusing specs. G-Sync, FreeSync, ISP, AMD, sRGB or Adobe RGB? Do any of these matter??

Do these monitors remain on when the Mac sleeps? Do they come on when I wake up the Mac? I don¡¯t really one with speakers.?

Sorry for all the questions.

How about this Philips? ¨C it shows a 4 year warranty.

Thanks,
Paul


On Jun 30, 2023, at 6:40 AM, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:



On Jun 30, 2023, at 4:24 AM, Otto Nikolaus via <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

The go-to brand used to be Samsung. Do they still make monitors worth considering but others are just better value now?

Samsung and LG make the best high-end (OLED) panels, and Samsung makes all of it¡¯s own components.

Samsung used to make all of Apple¡¯s (over-priced) monitors for them.

If you want a genuine Samsung, you will have to pay a bit more, but some people would prefer to. ?Here is a good deal on a 27-inch Samsung:

SAMSUNG U28R550UQNX 28" 4K UHD Monitor with AMD Free Sync
$280



By the way, if what you want is a more affordable, but still ultra-high end alternative to Apple¡¯s Studio Display, check out:

Alogic¡¯s Clarity 27-Inch 4K Monitor
$800
https://alogic.co/products/clarity-27-uhd-4k-monitor?_pos=1&_sid=f1ad8f8ad&_ss=r


__________________________________________________

Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice
http://www.macattorney.com/welcome.html
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On Jul 3, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Paul Lundgren <pflundgren021@...> wrote:

Your recommendations are appreciated but I¡¯m uncertain about how a non Mac monitor would ¡°work¡± with a Mac Mini.
There is no such thing as a ¡°Macintosh monitor.¡± There hasn¡¯t been for decades. (There are monitors that Apple sells for use specifically with Macs, but there is nothing special about them. They are just over-priced high-end monitors made for Apple by the likes of Samsung, with Apple¡¯s logo put on them.) Just about any monitor can be used with a Macintosh.

As long as the monitor you purchase has a matching input to the video output on your Macintosh, you are golden. Fortunately, HDMI is a digital standard that is quickly becoming universal. Some Macs don¡¯t have an HDMI output (notably some MacBooks that only have Thunderbolt ports), so you need an inexpensive Thunderbolt to HDMI adapter to pair your Mac with a modern monitor.

Don¡¯t get too caught up in specs and random technologies that are included with a monitor. Read the reviews and see if the picture looks good and if it works well.

It¡¯s surprisingly hard to go wrong with your monitor choice. Most end users who aren¡¯t video professionals can¡¯t even tell the difference between a cheap monitor and a very expensive one.

__________________________________________________

Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

__________________________________________________


 

On Jul 3, 2023, at 1:14 PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

I looked up IPS panel, but what is VA?
Nearly all monitors sold today use an LCD panel based on one of three technologies: twisted nematic (TN), in-plane switching (IPS), and vertical alignment (VA).

The least expensive monitors often use a TN panel. TN panel monitors look dull next to IPS and have bad resolution at acute viewing angles. I¡¯d avoid getting a monitor with a TN panel.

A majority of monitors use IPS. Monitors based on IPS have very accurate color and can support a wide color gamut at a reasonable price. IPS struggles with dark scenes, however, because it can¡¯t achieve a convincing shade of black. This is the dreaded ¡°IPS glow¡± you may have heard of, which can look unappealing when watching movies or playing games. However, gamers still often like IPS monitors because some IPS panels have low response times and very high refresh rates.

VA panels have the best contrast ratio and dark scene performance of the three, which makes VA a great choice for watching videos and gaming. This is especially true of high-quality (e.g. expensive) modern VA panels, which have mostly solved the color accuracy and motion smearing issues of some past, and/or inexpensive VA monitors.

There is no clear choice between IPS and VA (at least with regard to quality monitors), as both have their perks. When it comes to work, though, you may find the choice is made for you. A huge majority of productivity monitors use an IPS panel. And for most purposes their pictures are great.You¡¯ll want to lean your search toward gaming monitors if you prefer the high contrast a quality VA panel can provide.

So, IPS is best for clarity, VA is good for gaming and movies, TN panels are now rare or only seen in cheap monitors.


__________________________________________________

Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

__________________________________________________


 

Thank you for the basic overview and comparison.

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Jul 3, 2023, at 21:31, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:

Nearly all monitors sold today use an LCD panel based on one of three technologies: twisted nematic (TN), in-plane switching (IPS), and vertical alignment (VA).