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Sorry for the off-topic intrusion, but…
Can anyone recommend an ISP other than Comcast or ATT? I’ve reached the end of my tether with both.
Thanx,
Kurt Youngmann ***
"I used to eat a lot of natural?foods until I learned that?most people die of natural?causes.” - unattributed
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Depends on where you’re at. ?Here in SE Ohio I’ve got Frontier fiber optic. ?It’s great.
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On Apr 29, 2025, at 5:22?PM, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:
Sorry for the off-topic intrusion, but…
Can anyone recommend an ISP other than Comcast or ATT? I’ve reached the end of my tether with both.
Thanx,
Kurt Youngmann ***
"I used to eat a lot of natural?foods until I learned that?most people die of natural?causes.” - unattributed
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?Where are you located, Kurt? Are any Fiber Internet companies available at your address?
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On Apr 29, 2025, at 15:23, Dutch Junge via groups.io <dutch@...> wrote:
? Depends on where you’re at. ?Here in SE Ohio I’ve got Frontier fiber optic. ?It’s great.
Dutch On Apr 29, 2025, at 5:22?PM, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:
Sorry for the off-topic intrusion, but…
Can anyone recommend an ISP other than Comcast or ATT? I’ve reached the end of my tether with both.
Thanx,
Kurt Youngmann ***
"I used to eat a lot of natural?foods until I learned that?most people die of natural?causes.” - unattributed
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On Apr 29, 2025, at 5:26?PM, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote:
?Where are you located, Kurt?
Chicago area. Are any Fiber Internet companies available at your address?
Due to my severely limited technical awareness & prowess (too old for technology), I don’t have an answer to that question.??
I thank you for your response & hope you can offer advice anyway.
Kurt Youngmann
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"The surest sign of intelligent?life in the universe is that?they haven't attempted to?contact us.” ?- Bill Watterson,?comic strip artist?
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Many thanks!?
? ? ? ? ? ? ?Robert Durnford?
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On Apr 29, 2025, at 18:42, kurt youngmann via groups.io <tgobbi@...> wrote:
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On Apr 29, 2025, at 5:26?PM, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote:
?Where are you located, Kurt?
Chicago area.
Are any Fiber Internet companies available at your address?
Due to my severely limited technical awareness & prowess (too old for technology), I don’t have an answer to that question.??
I thank you for your response & hope you can offer advice anyway.
Kurt Youngmann
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"The surest sign of intelligent?life in the universe is that?they haven't attempted to?contact us.” ?- Bill Watterson,?comic strip artist?
Personally, we’ve tried most all the Satellite providers.? Bad weather will kill the signals, and having been born and raised in Chicagoland, I do remember there being weather. ? :^)
Currently using cellular. It can be a bit slow at high traffic times, but has yet to fail.? Fast enough to stream video without buffering.
Bob?
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On Apr 29, 2025, at 3:22 PM, kurt youngmann via < tgobbi@...> wrote:
Sorry for the off-topic intrusion, but…
Can anyone recommend an ISP other than Comcast or ATT? I’ve reached the end of my tether with both.
Thanx,
Kurt Youngmann ***
"I used to eat a lot of natural?foods until I learned that?most people die of natural?causes.” - unattributed
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Many thanks!?
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On Apr 29, 2025, at 18:42, kurt youngmann via groups.io <tgobbi@...> wrote:
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On Apr 29, 2025, at 5:26?PM, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote:
?Where are you located, Kurt?
Chicago area.
Are any Fiber Internet companies available at your address?
Due to my severely limited technical awareness & prowess (too old for technology), I don’t have an answer to that question.??
I thank you for your response & hope you can offer advice anyway.
Kurt Youngmann
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"The surest sign of intelligent?life in the universe is that?they haven't attempted to?contact us.” ?- Bill Watterson,?comic strip artist?
I set my daughter up with T-Mobile. I paid for the cell router and she gets streaming and work-from-home speeds for $50 per month unlimited (actually capped but at a ridiculous amount of data).
Mike
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On Apr 29, 2025, at 5:22?PM, kurt youngmann via groups.io <tgobbi@...> wrote: an anyone recommend an ISP other than Comcast or ATT? I’ve reached the end of my tether with both.
Try Comcast BUSINESS B2B. It's an entirely separate division, and they are top-tier on every metric.
I was in your position a few years ago with Comcast Residential and at the end of my rope. Switched to Comcast B2B as a business customer, and never looked back. They deliver.
Almost no outages or downtime, no throttling, and IBM-type customer support.
Check out the plans for your zip code.?
Cheers, John ?
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On Apr 30, 2025, at 2:35?PM, John via groups.io <OceanCity@...> wrote:
Try Comcast?BUSINESS?B2B. It's an entirely separate division, and they are top-tier on every metric.
Thanx for the tip. My concern, though, is what to expect when I try to contact them with a problem. Over the past few weeks I’ve had experiences that were akin to sticking a finger in a live electric socket. Communicating with that back-and-forth automated system is frustrating & trying to speak with a live person is close to impossible. Wouldn’t the same problems occur when trying to get help?
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“The answers are all out?there, we just need to?ask the right questions.” - Oscar Wilde
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That may be true of Comcast Residential. However, Comcast Business, as John said, is a separate division with much better customer support. Also, did you look into Metronet? Is it available at your address? Fiber providers are often smaller and more capable of offering human support.
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On Apr 30, 2025, at 13:23, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:
On Apr 30, 2025, at 2:35?PM, John via groups.io <OceanCity@...> wrote:
Try Comcast?BUSINESS?B2B. It's an entirely separate division, and they are top-tier on every metric.
Thanx for the tip. My concern, though, is what to expect when I try to contact them with a problem. Over the past few weeks I’ve had experiences that were akin to sticking a finger in a live electric socket. Communicating with that back-and-forth automated system is frustrating & trying to speak with a live person is close to impossible. Wouldn’t the same problems occur when trying to get help?
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“The answers are all out?there, we just need to?ask the right questions.” - Oscar Wilde
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Something I have found to be extreme useful and gets results
quickly is to find their social media "support" account (my
favorite is Twitter/X). I've used this method for numerous issues
(just recently with Adobe) and have gotten very good results
overall.
On 4/30/25 4:00 PM, Ben Rosenthal via
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That may be true of Comcast Residential. However, Comcast
Business, as John said, is a separate division with much better
customer support. Also, did you look into Metronet? Is it
available at your address? Fiber providers are often smaller and
more capable of offering human support.
On Apr 30, 2025, at 13:23, kurt youngmann
<tgobbi@...> wrote:
Try
Comcast?BUSINESS?B2B.
It's
an entirely separate division, and they are
top-tier on every metric.
Thanx for the tip. My concern, though, is what to expect
when I try to contact them with a problem. Over the past
few weeks I’ve had experiences that were akin to
sticking a finger in a live electric socket.
Communicating with that back-and-forth automated system
is frustrating & trying to speak with a live person
is close to impossible. Wouldn’t the same problems occur
when trying to get help?
***
“The
answers are all out?there, we just need to?ask the
right questions.” - Oscar Wilde
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On Apr 30, 2025, at 3:35?PM, John via groups.io <OceanCity@...> wrote:
I was in your position a few years ago with Comcast?Residential?and at the end of my rope. Switched to Comcast B2B as a?business?customer, and never looked back. They deliver.
I’m in a similar position - I have Spectrum business and the very rare occasions I have problems (I think 5-6 calls in the last 10+ years) I always get right through to the Business help line, and get priority on scheduling the calls.
I’m paying about $110 per month including a fixed IP number.
That is only for internet - they keep trying to sell me phone and television, they’ve never convinced hard enough yet (T-Mobile cell phone service and Dish satellite TV we’ve had coming up on 23 years now.
Roger
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I try not to reward companies that treat me poorly. Have had numerous problems with Comcast over the years, and wouldn’t go near them, even their bait-and-switch program, with a 10 foot pole.
shalom, ncoom
???? ??????? small-odds-man We’re all here because we’re not all there
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On 30 Apr 2025, at 22:35, John via groups.io <OceanCity@...> wrote:
On Apr 29, 2025, at 5:22?PM, kurt youngmann via groups.io <tgobbi@...> wrote: an anyone recommend an ISP other than Comcast or ATT? I’ve reached the end of my tether with both.
Try Comcast BUSINESS B2B. It's an entirely separate division, and they are top-tier on every metric.
I was in your position a few years ago with Comcast Residential and at the end of my rope. Switched to Comcast B2B as a business customer, and never looked back. They deliver.
Almost no outages or downtime, no throttling, and IBM-type customer support.
Check out the plans for your zip code.?
Cheers, John ?
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On Apr 30, 2025, at 4:23?PM, kurt youngmann via groups.io <tgobbi@...> wrote: On Apr 30, 2025, at 2:35?PM, John via??<OceanCity@...> wrote:
Try Comcast?BUSINESS?B2B. It's an entirely separate division, and they are top-tier on every metric.
Thanx for the tip. My concern, though, is what to expect when I try to contact them with a problem. Over the past few weeks I’ve had experiences that were akin to sticking a finger in a live electric socket. Communicating with that back-and-forth automated system is frustrating & trying to speak with a live person is close to impossible. Wouldn’t the same problems occur when trying to get help? Kurt,
Perhaps I was not clear.
Comcast BUSINESS B2B has top-tier business support and will never abandon you until they have exceeded your expectations on all levels, including most importantly support.
Cheers, John?
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On caution putting all your eggs in one basket.?
I have Compost, uh, I mean Xfinity for internet, and had Xfinity Mobile for cellular. They had a several day internet outage in the 5th largest city in the state, so for the first day I used cellular data for an internet connection. The loss of internet was not the cable between their office and me, but from their office to the internet.?
Guess what happened on the second day. You got it, the cellular data connected to the internet thru their own internet connection, with no emergency plan to say switch to another connection point. And of course, since I was a Residential customer, I could not reach them to even get updates, beside the turned on the outgoing message, and I had no internet to reach them.?
This happened just before they were about to raise their cellular rates, so I switched back to Consumer Cellular, which uses AT&T’s network. Compost uses Verizon’s.
Compost, a pile of rotting crap. Why does a company need two names?
Brent ?
On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7?
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On Apr 30, 2025, at 4:18 PM, Roger Moffat via < rogerkiwi@...> wrote:
I was in your position a few years ago with Comcast?Residential?and at the end of my rope. Switched to Comcast B2B as a?business?customer, and never looked back. They deliver.
I’m in a similar position - I have Spectrum business and the very rare occasions I have problems (I think 5-6 calls in the last 10+ years) I always get right through to the Business help line, and get priority on scheduling the calls.
I’m paying about $110 per month including a fixed IP number.
That is only for internet - they keep trying to sell me phone and television, they’ve never convinced hard enough yet (T-Mobile cell phone service and Dish satellite TV we’ve had coming up on 23 years now.
Roger
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John, I take it you need the speed and reliability of the Business version, but you are paying a price for that. But what ncoom, says makes sense. Look at the current administration. They are making nice with the Billionaires, but everyone else can go hungry. So as a residential customer of Compost, I have no loyalty to them, because they don’t give a hoot about their residential customers.?
Over the years, I have used various ISP and cellular providers. Some have not kept up with technology, and some just provide lousy customer service. Compost and Verizon, and both provided lousy service and so I use them only when it is to my advantage, but the moment they become complacent or try to price gouge me, I’m gone.?
Why is V*s*on cellular have cheaper rates than the lowest plan from Verizon? But still not cheaper than other VMNOs. Verizon owns both companies. This is just a way of them saying they know the Vz rates are high, and you will receive less customer service from V*s*on.?
As far as cellular, I have a weak signal at my home, where I spend 90% of my time, and for about a 1-2 block radius. Since there are only 3 national networks, and all others are virtual, renting time from those 3, I have tried them all. They all have the same issue, there is some geographic or electromagnetic issue. So the only difference is price and customer service. I need minimal customer service, so that leaves price.?
Brent ?
On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7?
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On Apr 30, 2025, at 4:23?PM, kurt youngmann via < tgobbi@...> wrote: On Apr 30, 2025, at 2:35?PM, John via??<OceanCity@...> wrote:
Try Comcast?BUSINESS?B2B. It's an entirely separate division, and they are top-tier on every metric.
Thanx for the tip. My concern, though, is what to expect when I try to contact them with a problem. Over the past few weeks I’ve had experiences that were akin to sticking a finger in a live electric socket. Communicating with that back-and-forth automated system is frustrating & trying to speak with a live person is close to impossible. Wouldn’t the same problems occur when trying to get help? Kurt,
Perhaps I was not clear.
Comcast BUSINESS B2B has top-tier business support and will never abandon you until they have exceeded your expectations on all levels, including most importantly support.
Cheers, John?
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On May 1, 2025, at 1:32?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote: John, I take it you need the speed and reliability of the Business version, but you are paying a price for that.
Brent,
I know. Through the nose! ?
But I've been through it all, from dial-up, to satellite, and the never-ending nonsense with Comcast Residential.? I swear I'll NEVER deal with Comcast RESIDENTIAL ever again.
I know I'm paying for it, but I get what I pay for and couldn't be more satisfied with their reliability and support.
YMMV, John?
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Ben Rosenthal
John
Brent