On Aug 5, 2023, at 4:07 PM, Monty Lee < monty@...> wrote:
Since upgrading to Ventura, something is triggering the Mezzo sound alert every 15-30 seconds or so and I can't find what it is. In Mail > Settings > General I've changed the sound to something else, so I'm sure it's not Mail. In Settings > Notifications I've pretty much turned everything off or at least turned Sound Notification OFF.
What else should I be looking for?
That default BEEP, when it sounds, is an indication that you are trying to do something that is, so to speak, not on offer. ?
E.g, if Finder is the foremost app and I do a Command + W, I will get that default BEEP indicating that I am invoking a command that is not on offer: ?that is to say I cannot Close the Finder.
When you get that tone, look in your menubar and see what application is forward and try to dope to what it is you are asking it to do that cannot be done.
HTH
Bob —— If you always do what you always did, You’ll always get what you always got.
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Since upgrading to Ventura, something is triggering the Mezzo sound alert every 15-30 seconds or so and I can't find what it is. In Mail > Settings > General I've changed the sound to something else, so I'm sure it's not Mail. In Settings > Notifications I've pretty much turned everything off or at least turned Sound Notification OFF.
What else should I be looking for?
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Re: Testing a new From: email address
Maybe use a different e-mail client to see if the issue persists.
Alternatively, don't run any e-mail client at all temporarily and access the Apple-issued e-mail address using webmail. If you see anything in the spam folder with webmail, it is the mail server spam detection settings.
AG
Thursday, August 3, 2023, 7:48:03 AM, Al Varnell via groups.io alvarnell@... wrote:
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That would almost certainly prove that the problem is with the Apple Mail client app and not the Apple iCloud mail server.
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Re: Testing a new From: email address
That would almost certainly prove that the problem is with the Apple Mail client app and not the Apple iCloud mail server.
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Re: Testing a new From: email address
I was having problems with iomug mail suddenly going to junk folder.
Looked everywhere, Deleted all rules, including in iCloud. Still went to junk.
iomug rule now seems to be working after I changed the settings to “any”, “To”, “contains”, “iomug”
Now messages from iomug go to the correct mailbox. At least for the moment.
Bob
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On Aug 1, 2023, at 2:24 PM, maclists <maclists@...> wrote:
Hello Bob,
But now you get the "via groups.io" issue for using an Apple-issued (also happens for yahoo.com and googlemail addresses) address to subscribe to the list.
Also look at the AllApple groups.io mailing list. People who subscribed there using e-mail addresses issued by Apple are finding that all posts from the list are in the "spam folder" in the thread "[AllApple] What is going on?" Apple has changed something at the mail server.
AG
Tuesday, August 1, 2023, 7:11:41 PM, Bob Gerard via groups.io rowerbob@... wrote:
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Re: Sharing problems following update to Ventura
To be clear, the Mail This Page option is tied to the default email reader, not the default web browser. If you’re using Mail, make sure Mail is your default email reader and this might clear up both issues.
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On 2 Aug 2023, at 09:57, Mary Ann Niesen < mag314@...> wrote:
In your Mail settings, is Mail your default email reader?
Mary Ann On Aug 2, 2023, at 11:12 AM, Bob Gerard via < rowerbob@...> wrote:
It seems that after installing the latest updates to Venture: ?2020 iMac, SSD, macOS 13.5, there is a problem with sharing on my iMac, but not on my wife’s 2019 MB Air.
This first screenshot is of the top, right-hand corner of Safari, with it’s Share icon.
Previously, when reading an article in the NYT, in Reader view, when I clicked on that Share icon it produced a share “list” that had the Safari icon next to [Email This Page].
The icon has now changed to the Brave icon.
I went back to Safari as my default browser and restarted, but nonetheless, the Brave icon is still there and clicking on[Email This Page] simply brings the Brave browser forward with the most recent page showing, not the page I was trying to email.
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In the next attachment is the next thing I noticed: This is what was produced when I right-clicked on a .jpg on my desktop. Previously the choice to?email?any item was offered when I right-clicked?
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When I go to [Edit Extensions] at the bottom, this is what I get: ?Mail is associated with the Brave icon and not the Mail icon as it is on my wife’s computer.
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I rebooted in Safe Mode: ?same problems persisted Booted normally again: ?same problems persisted.
Might this be some corrupt preference? ?If so, any guess as to which one??
Bob
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“We are not here for a?long time; we are?here for a good time."
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Re: Sharing problems following update to Ventura
Just set up a new mail box in Mail.app for Iomug.
Going to send this email to see if it is diverted to that inbox.
Here was the rule:
Bob ——— “The more I practice, the luckier I get.” - Source uncertain
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Re: Sharing problems following update to Ventura
In your Mail settings, is Mail your default email reader?
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On Aug 2, 2023, at 11:12 AM, Bob Gerard via groups.io <rowerbob@...> wrote:
It seems that after installing the latest updates to Venture: ?2020 iMac, SSD, macOS 13.5, there is a problem with sharing on my iMac, but not on my wife’s 2019 MB Air.
This first screenshot is of the top, right-hand corner of Safari, with it’s Share icon.
Previously, when reading an article in the NYT, in Reader view, when I clicked on that Share icon it produced a share “list” that had the Safari icon next to [Email This Page].
The icon has now changed to the Brave icon.
I went back to Safari as my default browser and restarted, but nonetheless, the Brave icon is still there and clicking on[Email This Page] simply brings the Brave browser forward with the most recent page showing, not the page I was trying to email.
<Screenshot 2023-08-02 at 10.41.49.jpeg>
In the next attachment is the next thing I noticed: This is what was produced when I right-clicked on a .jpg on my desktop. Previously the choice to email any item was offered when I right-clicked?
?<Screenshot 2023-08-02 at 10.47.38.jpg>
When I go to [Edit Extensions] at the bottom, this is what I get: ?Mail is associated with the Brave icon and not the Mail icon as it is on my wife’s computer.
<Screenshot 2023-08-02 at 11.02.22.jpeg>
I rebooted in Safe Mode: ?same problems persisted Booted normally again: ?same problems persisted.
Might this be some corrupt preference? ?If so, any guess as to which one??
Bob
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“We are not here for a?long time; we are?here for a good time."
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Sharing problems following update to Ventura
It seems that after installing the latest updates to Venture: ?2020 iMac, SSD, macOS 13.5, there is a problem with sharing on my iMac, but not on my wife’s 2019 MB Air.
This first screenshot is of the top, right-hand corner of Safari, with it’s Share icon.
Previously, when reading an article in the NYT, in Reader view, when I clicked on that Share icon it produced a share “list” that had the Safari icon next to [Email This Page].
The icon has now changed to the Brave icon.
I went back to Safari as my default browser and restarted, but nonetheless, the Brave icon is still there and clicking on[Email This Page] simply brings the Brave browser forward with the most recent page showing, not the page I was trying to email.
In the next attachment is the next thing I noticed: This is what was produced when I right-clicked on a .jpg on my desktop. Previously the choice to email any item was offered when I right-clicked?
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When I go to [Edit Extensions] at the bottom, this is what I get: ?Mail is associated with the Brave icon and not the Mail icon as it is on my wife’s computer.
I rebooted in Safe Mode: ?same problems persisted Booted normally again: ?same problems persisted.
Might this be some corrupt preference? ?If so, any guess as to which one??
Bob
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“We are not here for a?long time; we are?here for a good time."
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Re: loading background pictures
On Jul 31, 2023, at 11:30 AM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <iomug@...> wrote:
Yes I do want “remote content” showing up so I don’t have to press it everytime I read an email. I believe that you will find the solution here: __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice __________________________________________________
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Re: Testing a new From: email address
I changed my email because I am having a devil of a problem with my @gmx email account....yet again
I get shut down about every six months or so, have to create a new password and then connect, yet again, the @gmx account to all my Apple devices.? It is just too troublesome.
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Re: Testing a new From: email address
Hello Bob,
But now you get the "via groups.io" issue for using an Apple-issued (also happens for yahoo.com and googlemail addresses) address to subscribe to the list.
Also look at the AllApple groups.io mailing list. People who subscribed there using e-mail addresses issued by Apple are finding that all posts from the list are in the "spam folder" in the thread "[AllApple] What is going on?" Apple has changed something at the mail server.
AG
Tuesday, August 1, 2023, 7:11:41 PM, Bob Gerard via groups.io rowerbob@... wrote:
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Testing a new From: email address
Bob
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“We are not here for a?long time; we are?here for a good time."
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Re: Take My BMUG and Apple Archives Away!
Oh, boy... I remember those days in Berkeley. The new ideas of Apple, etc. How times have changed. Unfortunately, I have my own boxes of stuff, and don't need more. But appreciate your explanation of items, prompting mental memories of the "good ol' days" - ha!
Linda Minor
Former BMUG Member
On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:17 PM PDT, David Lipsky via groups.io <david.lipsky@...> wrote:
Return with us now to those thrilling days of yesteryear. From out of the past come the thundering hoofbeats of … BMUG! The Berkeley Mac User Group was a prolific publisher of magazines and CDs/DVDs containing news, reviews and software. I need to make some room in the stables and three Banker's boxes of BMUG and Mac paraphernalia need to go.? You can learn about the excitement of a new age of software and OS releases in the 1990s. BMUG quarterlies, CDs, games, Apple paraphernalia, Apple educational guides and BMUG VHS tapes included.? Along with several years of MacAddict magazines and their monthly CDs. All available in North Berkeley, CA for pickup, NOW!? -- David Lipsky Berkeley, CA All Kinds of Apple Stuff
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Take My BMUG and Apple Archives Away!
Return with us now to those thrilling days of yesteryear. From out of the past come the thundering hoofbeats of … BMUG!
The Berkeley Mac User Group was a prolific publisher of magazines and CDs/DVDs containing news, reviews and software.
I need to make some room in the stables and three Banker's boxes of BMUG and Mac paraphernalia need to go.?
You can learn about the excitement of a new age of software and OS releases in the 1990s.
BMUG quarterlies, CDs, games, Apple paraphernalia, Apple educational guides and BMUG VHS tapes included.?
Along with several years of MacAddict magazines and their monthly CDs.
All available in North Berkeley, CA for pickup, NOW!?
-- David Lipsky Berkeley, CA All Kinds of Apple Stuff
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Re: Can't search in Notes
I got advice online to delete and replace the startup drive from search in system preferences. That seems to have done the trick. Thanks!
Barbara
On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 12:17:53 PM EDT, John Hay via groups.io <oceancity@...> wrote:
On Jul 31, 2023, at 11:28 AM, Ben Rosenthal <ben@...> wrote: What happens when you try to search?
Very poor. John?
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Re: loading background pictures upload "remote content" every time. I don't remember what I did that made this happen.
IIRC, means “if I recall correctly”.
In this case, you asked these question just a few weeks prior, and we answered them then. You are repeating yourself.
Brent
On my iPhone Xr
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On Jul 31, 2023, at 11:09, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <iomug@...> wrote:
?What do so I don’t have to press load content every time. I don't remember what I did that made this happen.
It is not straight forward to me. I rarely remember initials like IIRC- What is that again?
Ellen
On Jul 30, 2023, at 7:32 PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
Ellen, you had this same issue several weeks ago.
IIRC, you left it set this way to avoid malware.
Brent
On my iPhone Xr
On Jul 30, 2023, at 10:33, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <iomug@...> wrote: ?Thanks. I’m just not sure what you wrote. I never had “remote content” link before this showed up a couple weeks ago., emails
This “remote content” link shows up on all my shows up on now. I don’t remember making all my mail plain text mails. It is just something annoying I have to do everytime I open an email.
Ellen
On Jul 27, 2023, at 11:32 AM, maclists <maclists@...> wrote:
That is normal. You really don't want "remote content" enabled in your e-mail client. It is only an issue with HTML in e-mail. The infamous web beacons are not possible in normal plain text mails.
AG
Thursday, July 27, 2023, 4:45:45 PM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io iomug@... wrote:
I may have asked this but don’t remember. (still having sending problems!) When I open any Website or email I get this
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Bob Gerard
Al Varnell
Pat Taylor
Ben Rosenthal
David Lipsky
Brent