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Re: a very simple question (I hope)

 

On May 15, 2025, at 7:42 AM, Jaqi Thompson via groups.io <yywomyn@...> wrote:

None of the Character Viewer checkmarks I found look like the one Randy has; where did that one come from?

Different fonts have different, usually hidden, extended characters. I think that one was from Lucinda Grande. You have to hit some combination of modifier keys to get it. I just pulled it from a form that I once created.

There used to be utilities that would give you a list of all of the extended characters included with each of your installed fonts. I haven’t looked lately to see if any of these still exist. Nowadays I just save time and cut and paste special characters from past documents if I don’t know where and how to access them.

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Re: a very simple question (I hope)

 

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Hi, Otto,
Of course you are right, Option v ?√ ?is a square root symbol! ?It also makes a beautiful checkmark. ?My old mind knew that once upon a time, but had completely forgotten that way to get a checkmark from the keyboard as Kurt requested, as well as forgotten that a square root symbol was on the Mac.
Also, in my first reply to Kurt, I said the iPhone emojis, aka Character Viewer, has two checkmarks, but there are actually 5 or more versions: ? ??? ?? ?? ? ??

When you do a Search in Character Viewer, just enter “check”. ?That gives you more options than the full “checkmark.” ?Some of those additional options are not checkmarks at all, but searching “checkmarks” does not bring up all the actual checkmarks.

And, of course, you can re-size using command+ or command-

None of the Character Viewer checkmarks I found look like the one Randy has; where did that one come from?
Jaqi?



On May 15, 2025, at 4:23?AM, Otto Nikolaus via groups.io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:



On 15 May 2025, at 11:30, Randy B. Singer via <randy@...> wrote:

On May 14, 2025, at 10:38 AM, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:

Can someone please tell me how to make a check mark on the Mac keyboard.
Copy and paste this: ???

Or Show Emoji & Symbols (Character Viewer) > Bullets/Stars (3rd row from bottom) > Add to Favourites,

Otto
10.15.7


Speaking of keyboards…

 

I didn't remember how to get a checkmark, so I went to my Keyboard Viewer. ?
Odd. ?Although it shows as an A+ on the toolbar, it briefly changes to the US keyboard, when I click on it. I have always had an Extended keyboard (A+).
Unsure when it changed, but even though the System shows there is an A+ connected, the only keyboard display is the US keyboard.
Disconnect/reconnect finds and reconnects the A+, but still only shows the US keyboard in the viewer.
Another change in recent upgrade/updates? ?
I guess I should test EVERY MacOS feature and function after every update…once I find where they got moved and/or renamed


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On 15 May 2025, at 11:30, Randy B. Singer via <randy@...> wrote:

On May 14, 2025, at 10:38 AM, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:

Can someone please tell me how to make a check mark on the Mac keyboard.
Copy and paste this: ???

Or Show Emoji & Symbols (Character Viewer) > Bullets/Stars (3rd row from bottom) > Add to Favourites,

Otto
10.15.7


Re: a very simple question (I hope)

 



On May 14, 2025, at 10:38 AM, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:

Can someone please tell me how to make a check mark on the Mac keyboard.


Copy and paste this: ???

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Re: a very simple question (I hope)

 

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As I said earlier, it’s actually a square root symbol, but it’s “close enough”:
√ opt-v
vs
? Character Viewer > Bullets/Stars

Otto

On 15 May 2025, at 00:10, Bob Hasselbrink via <hippie1@...> wrote:

I guess Option + v, which I have always used, could be considered a concept of a check mark.


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I guess Option + v, which I have always used, could be considered a concept of a check mark.

Bob



On May 14, 2025, at 11:47 AM, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:

I don’t think there’s a keyboard shortcut for that character, but you can insert it using?. As an extension, you could copy this character and create a Text Replacement Shortcut to insert it.

On May 14, 2025, at 10:39, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:

?Can someone please tell me how to make a check mark on the Mac keyboard.

Thanx,

Kurt Youngmann

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Re: a very simple question (I hope)

 

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That’s the square root symbol, although it looks a little like a check mark (tick in the UK).

I find it strange that there isn’t a tick symbol available without going into emoji, etc. If I used it a lot, I’d set it up as a key combo.

Otto

On 14 May 2025, at 18:47, Steve Kane via <skane-l@...> wrote:



Option-V makes a reasonable check mark depending on the font you are using.


Re: a very simple question (I hope)

 

This is what I use!

Sent from iPhone

On May 14, 2025, at 1:48?PM, Steve Kane via groups.io <skane-l@...> wrote:

?√

Option-V makes a reasonable check mark depending on the font you are using.

On May 14, 2025, at 12:38?PM, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:

Can someone please tell me how to make a check mark on the Mac keyboard.

Thanx,

Kurt Youngmann

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Problems upgrading macOS from v15.4 to v15.5

 

Well, this is why I always wait a week or so to install significant updates, until all the bugs get worked out and the patches get launched.?
Of course, my issue could be unique to my hardware for some reason, but just a heads up if you are running an external display(s).?
?
On an M-chipped MacBook Air I upgraded today from Sequoia v15.4.1 to v15.5. Connected to the MBA via USB-C is an LG 5k external display, with spaces and two displays configured and stable in system settings prior to the upgrade.?
?
After running the upgrade the external display did was not recognized at all, and all of the open apps, spaces, windows, all ended up jumbled on the MBA with the external display dead. Having experienced various oddities over the decades I knew the first thing to try was simply hands-off and shut down. Then after the first restart, at least now the external display was recognized and somewhat functional, however it took quite some time to figure out where some of the spaces, apps, and windows had disappeared to.?
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After more reboots, and troubleshooting I discovered some of the apps were somehow "off" of the current screen (space) and were revealed when I used the F3 key, which may vary from model to model, but normally shows you everything within a space or a display that's either covered up or totally off the screen entirely. Even stranger was when the "missing" apps appeared with the F3 key, even when I dragged them back into a space they flew off again. I finally figured out that I needed to "quit" the lost app and relaunch it into a "fresh" space. That worked.?
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Sorry, if I'm not being clear, or if you don't use spaces, etc. but just a heads up that if you are using external displays to be ready for some troubleshooting.?
?
John
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Hi Kurt, ?you asked how to make a checkmark from ?your keyboard, but the unacceptable two slant bars \/ ?(don’t know their real name) can easily be beat using iPhone emojis. ?Plus Apple offers easy ways to get either of their good checkmark emojis into whatever you’re doing on a Mac. ?See 2 screenshots below. ?There’s more, but you can see the Apple website within the screenshot and find more on your own.
Jaqi




On May 14, 2025, at 10:38?AM, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:

Can someone please tell me how to make a check mark on the Mac keyboard.

Thanx,

Kurt Youngmann

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“The most erroneous stories?are?those we think we know?best --?and therefore never?scrutinize or?question." -?Stephen Jay Gould






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Control+Command+Space is the default shortcut for Emoji & Symbols.

On May 14, 2025, at 11:08, ncoom gilbar via groups.io <ncoom@...> wrote:

?Easy for me. Once you use more than one keyboard layout, you have an icon in the Menu Bar. Click on that, one of the options is Show Emoji and Icons. Scrolling through there, you can find almost anything.

How do you get there without the icon??

shalom,
ncoom

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On 14 May 2025, at 13:38, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:

Can someone please tell me how to make a check mark on the Mac keyboard.

Thanx,

Kurt Youngmann

***
“The most erroneous stories?are?those we think we know?best --?and therefore never?scrutinize or?question." -?Stephen Jay Gould






Re: a very simple question (I hope)

 

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Easy for me. Once you use more than one keyboard layout, you have an icon in the Menu Bar. Click on that, one of the options is Show Emoji and Icons. Scrolling through there, you can find almost anything.

How do you get there without the icon??

shalom,
ncoom

???? ???????
small-odds-man
We’re all here because we’re not all there







On 14 May 2025, at 13:38, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:

Can someone please tell me how to make a check mark on the Mac keyboard.

Thanx,

Kurt Youngmann

***
“The most erroneous stories?are?those we think we know?best --?and therefore never?scrutinize or?question." -?Stephen Jay Gould






Re: a very simple question (I hope)

 



Option-V makes a reasonable check mark depending on the font you are using.

On May 14, 2025, at 12:38?PM, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:

Can someone please tell me how to make a check mark on the Mac keyboard.

Thanx,

Kurt Youngmann

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“The most erroneous stories are those we think we know best -- and therefore never scrutinize or question." - Stephen Jay Gould





Re: a very simple question (I hope)

 

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I don’t think there’s a keyboard shortcut for that character, but you can insert it using?. As an extension, you could copy this character and create a Text Replacement Shortcut to insert it.

On May 14, 2025, at 10:39, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:

?Can someone please tell me how to make a check mark on the Mac keyboard.

Thanx,

Kurt Youngmann

***
“The most erroneous stories?are?those we think we know?best --?and therefore never?scrutinize or?question." -?Stephen Jay Gould





a very simple question (I hope)

 

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Can someone please tell me how to make a check mark on the Mac keyboard.

Thanx,

Kurt Youngmann

***
“The most erroneous stories?are?those we think we know?best --?and therefore never?scrutinize or?question." -?Stephen Jay Gould





Re: New upgrade

 

On May 14, 2025, at 5:37 AM, Dutch Junge via groups.io <dutch@...> wrote:

I agree Migration Assistant does the best job of transferring from an old Mac to a new one.
In fact, MA can do things that are more or less impossible to replicate any other way.

The last time time that I got a new Mac, I decided to upgrade by starting over from mostly scratch. But I soon found that it was impossible to move over the many rules that I had created in Mail, and just about everything else having to do with Mail, without using MA.

That alone would have taken me forever to re-create manually. I lost a lot of stuff from my browser and other apps too.



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Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

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Re: New upgrade

 

I agree Migration Assistant does the best job of transferring from an old Mac to a new one.

Dutch

On May 14, 2025, at 12:06?AM, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote:

I recommend using Migration Assistant and transferring everything. Then, on your new computer, do the necessary cleanup. You can use a tool like AppCleaner to prompt you to delete app support files when you delete an application.

On May 13, 2025, at 19:44, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <iomug@...> wrote:

?So today I got my new computer. It’s sitting in the box. I haven’t opened it yet. It’s always a lot of work to start on a new device. I could’ve had Best Buy transfer current computer apps to the new one, however, I just don’t trust Best Buy or the geek squad. The older one I’m using I originally transferred what I needed from an even older computer when I first bought it and that was many years ago. Best Buy offered to transfer everything to the new computer but as I said, I don’t think so. This way, I will take a look at what I really need and maybe dispense with things that I don’t need. It’s so easy to fill up a computer with all kinds of apps and documents and movies, etc. This new computer I just got is the 16 inch max with one TB of storage. I would have gotten more, but I was told at the store that was the only amount that I could only get at Best Bu. So I got the biggest one I could and I’m hoping that we’ll work out for me. I’ve heard rumors that in the next couple months prices are going to go way up; I figured it’s better just to buy one now my computer that I use now is getting pretty full
Ellen

Sent from my iphone max pro 15



On May 1, 2025, at 10:36?PM, Randy B. Singer via groups.io <randy@...> wrote:

?

On May 1, 2025, at 7:04 PM, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote:
It’s unlikely your Mac has any malware. macOS is quite good at protecting you against that. Scamming attempts, while malicious, are necessarily
related.
I agree. The chances that there is any malware on her computer are just about nil….EXCEPT….

When you communicate with a scammer, and they ask for access to your computer, AND YOU GIVE IT TO THEM. Then all bets are off.



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Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

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Re: New upgrade

 

I recommend using Migration Assistant and transferring everything. Then, on your new computer, do the necessary cleanup. You can use a tool like AppCleaner to prompt you to delete app support files when you delete an application.

On May 13, 2025, at 19:44, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <iomug@...> wrote:

?So today I got my new computer. It’s sitting in the box. I haven’t opened it yet. It’s always a lot of work to start on a new device. I could’ve had Best Buy transfer current computer apps to the new one, however, I just don’t trust Best Buy or the geek squad. The older one I’m using I originally transferred what I needed from an even older computer when I first bought it and that was many years ago. Best Buy offered to transfer everything to the new computer but as I said, I don’t think so. This way, I will take a look at what I really need and maybe dispense with things that I don’t need. It’s so easy to fill up a computer with all kinds of apps and documents and movies, etc. This new computer I just got is the 16 inch max with one TB of storage. I would have gotten more, but I was told at the store that was the only amount that I could only get at Best Bu. So I got the biggest one I could and I’m hoping that we’ll work out for me. I’ve heard rumors that in the next couple months prices are going to go way up; I figured it’s better just to buy one now my computer that I use now is getting pretty full
Ellen

Sent from my iphone max pro 15



On May 1, 2025, at 10:36?PM, Randy B. Singer via groups.io <randy@...> wrote:

?

On May 1, 2025, at 7:04 PM, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote:
It’s unlikely your Mac has any malware. macOS is quite good at protecting you against that. Scamming attempts, while malicious, are necessarily
related.
I agree. The chances that there is any malware on her computer are just about nil….EXCEPT….

When you communicate with a scammer, and they ask for access to your computer, AND YOU GIVE IT TO THEM. Then all bets are off.



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Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

__________________________________________________













Re: iPhone 16. Are some services optional?

 

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I got my iPhone 15 last year. I’d be interesting to see how your wife likes her new 16 in a few months. I like my 15, but there’s a lot of stuff on it that was put on when it was new that I don’t fully understand. It just seems that some technology is more complicated now and answers I need I can’t always find. This group has always been very helpful; yet there are still sometimes things I don’t understand about my phone or my computer for that matter,or some of the fixes that somebody tells me about.?
My brand new Apple Max 16 I got today is still sitting here. I’m not sure I want to tackle it yet until I’ve got the time and energy.
Ellen

Sent from my iphone max pro 15

?

On Apr 16, 2025, at 3:57?PM, Dutch Junge via groups.io <dutch@...> wrote:

?My wife got a 16e a few weeks ago ?Nice phone. ?A good upgrade from her 13.

Dutch

On Apr 16, 2025, at 8:50?AM, Pat Taylor via groups.io <pat412@...> wrote:

The 16e is available now: ?

Pat

On Apr 15, 2025, at 6:29?PM, Barbara Mende via groups.io <barbara@...> wrote:

When are you going to get that 16e? Is it out? Will it cost $9000? I've been waiting for it.
Barbara

On Tuesday, April 15, 2025 at 04:39:08 PM EDT, Steve Bee <buytcfhe@...> wrote:


We have a couple of old iPhones. I am going to get one iPhone 16e (probably). My question is;
are face recognition & artificial "intelligence" optional? Can they be turned off?
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Please, let us not get into a long back and forth about why or why not one should use these services.
Let us first hear from some people who might know the answer to the my actual question.
?
Steve
PS. Sorry but, I am finally that cranky old man ...