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Re: MP3s

Owen Cannon
 

actually, its a good thing to run napster in the background, it lets others
download your files

ummm have you tried giving more memory to napster? i don't have a problem
with it in the background.
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:25:36 -0600
From: Jon Bonner <jon@...>
Subject: Re: MP3s?

On 12/18/00 7:12 AM, Stella Sloop <serenn@...> wrote:

With my new iMac, I hoped to be able to download and listen to MP3
files. I have downloaded a few but can't seem to figure out how to
play them. Any help?
Try Audion or SoundJam for playing MP3 files. You can find either by doing a
search at <>.

Also, since downloading Napster, everything seems to be very
sluggish: the server, connections, software (Eudora, AOL, etc.). Any
connection, do you think?
Don't have Napster running in the background. Only use it when you are
actively using it. If you do that and you still experience a slowdown, I
doubt it would be because of Napster. Then again I suppose one never
knows...

Jon Bonner


MRP's RAMWATCH Memory Vendors

jm1209
 

i have bought memory from both mushkin and dms. both companies supplied
good product and with very fast delivery. used a credit card but over
the phone. both products work as described however the mushkin memory
was labeled from ti where the dms memory appeared generic
256 mb dimm for $99.00 plus $7.00 airborne next afternoon delivery.

jim


Internet Config Query

BrianS
 

Okay, so it's also a Eudora Pro question...

I'm using iCab as my browser of choice. It is selected in Unternet Config. BBEdit goes to iCab automatically. However when I click on a link in an email (in Eudora), it opens and runs Navigator... :-(

I looked through every setting in Eudora, and there are no areas dealing with "helper apps". AND, I've checked the setting which gives "full compliance with OT/PPP"...so, now what? Where else would there be a setting or Preference? Inside Navigator, itself? Thanks for your considerations.

Oh, and by the way, why is it, that after months of sending styled text in text enriched (not html) format, two of my digests all of a sudden won't accept the posts? I'm debating whether or not I want to change my settings in Eudora for 2 digests, when I have 800 other addresses that accept enriched text.

All the Best,
BrianS


Re: Subject: 7200/90 Power PC

Brent Pennington
 

Hi Stacey;

Whenever you install a new operating system, it is best to do a clean installation. And, while backing up your files is always a good idea, no
files should be removed by the installation process. When you perform a clean installation, you will get a new, fresh System Folder, but the old
system is still there (it's just inactive) in a folder called Previous System Folder. Outside of these two folders, no other files should be
affected.
Hope this helps.

Brent Pennington

Stacey Roof wrote:

Thanks, I'll do that...Also, when I did the install, I did it right
over the top of 8.6 rather than a clean install. I have soooooo many
large files that it takes forever to save them all on my zip 100 (I
just did this when I did a clean install of 8.6, took me 25 zip
discs) I'm wondering if there is a way to install the 9 along side
the 8.6 while still maintaining stability AND the contents of my hard
drive.
Stacey

Stacey
It could very well be Adobe ATM causing the problems on your #1 iMac. You
need the latest version of Adobe ATM (4.6.1). Adobe ATM versions earlier
than 4.5.2 cause horrible crashes with OS 9. You can pick up your free ATM
at
<>
Good Luck
Frederic

on 12/18/00 4:03 AM, iomug@... at iomug@... babbled on
about:

Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 19:51:57 -0700
From: Stacey Roof <stacey@...>
Subject: 7200/90 Power PC
Also, I have 2 iMacs: #1 is a 333/192 running OS 8.6, #2 is a 450/192
running OS 9.0.4. #2 has fire wire and DVD drive, while #1 does not.
I would like to upgrade #1 to 9.0.4 (via the CDs that came with #2)
but when I last tried the result was multiple crashes in every
application, including the finder on start-up. I gave up and did a
clean install of 8.6.

My question: Does this have anything to do with the DVD or Firewire
Extensions that are being installed? I wiped all those out and even
ran ConflictCatcher, but to no avail (CC's assessment was that Adobe
ATM was the culprit, but CC is another story)...Could this be an
Apple software piracy safeguard? Do I have to purchase a new copy of
OS 9 to install on #1, rather than using the CD's that came with #2?
Even though I personally own both computers (one personal, one for
business) am I supposed to maintain separate software for each
one--ethically and otherwise?

I realize this is a mouthful--thanks in advance for input,
Stacey
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Re: Internet Config Question

 

At 9:48 AM -0500 12/19/00, BrianS wrote:
Okay, so it's also a Eudora Pro question...

I'm using iCab as my browser of choice. It is selected in Unternet Config.
BBEdit goes to iCab automatically. However when I click on a link in an
email (in Eudora), it opens and runs Navigator... :-(

I looked through every setting in Eudora, and there are no areas dealing
with "helper apps". AND, I've checked the setting which gives "full
compliance with OT/PPP"...so, now what? Where else would there be a
setting or Preference? Inside Navigator, itself? Thanks for your
considerations.
In my older version of Eudora Pro (3.1.3), you hold down the Option+Command
key while clicking on the URL, and you will get a dialog box asking you to
pick the application to do http. Then just navigate to iCab on your hard
drive and select it. After that it will automatically use that application
until you change it. Hope this works for you.

Steph



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Re: MRP's RAMWATCH Memory Vendors

 

I'm not sure if the brand/vendor matters either, but I recently
bought a 128 upper slot chip for our Powerbook, and it works great. I
did a lot of calling around and no one could beat this company:
1-800-4-MEMORY
or their website:
Hope this helps,
Stacey

I'm in the market for a 128 or 256 MB memory module for my B&W G3/450.
The machine currently has 196 installed, all of it by Apple when I
ordered the machine. I truly haven't a clue whether or not the brand of
memory actually matters, and I'd love some help.

I bought memory from one of the Macintosh Resource Page's
(<<>>) a long
time ago and was pleased with the
experience. The RAMWATCH price list currently undercuts the catalog
vendors I know of significantly. The current vendor list includes Data
Memory Systems, MacMart, MemoryToGo, Other World Computing, and RamJet.

I'd appreciate feedback on which of these vendors I should look at most
closely, and which (if any) I should avoid, based on your experience.
I'm more interested in the "quality" of memory that the vendor supplies,
because I know poor customer service gets you bounced from RAMWATCH, but
if any of you DO have rotten experiences with current RAMWATCH vendors,
I guess I'd like to know about that, too :-)

Thanks!
David


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Re: Salon.com attacks the Mac!

Jon Bonner
 

Okay, wait a minute. When I first started reading the column at
<>, I
was upset and prepared to take arms. After reading the entire column,
however, I concede the man's point.

After all, this is the same Apple that put the screws on the school district
where I work, all because we went with a third-party lease instead of the
Apple lease to buy all our equipment. IMHO, as long as we're willing to
spend tens of thousands of dollars on Macintosh computers, Apple should be
nice to us. Sure they also wanted the lease and that interest money too, but
oh well, then they should have offered better terms. Yet since Apple lost
the lease, they were - well for a lack of a better word - rude to us, at a
time when we were spending $35,000 on their products (and spent over $20,000
last year, and who knows how much next year).

I think I'm going to write the author and tell him that I see his point and,
unfortunately, have to agree with him.

Jon Bonner


Re: 7200/90 Power PC

 

Maybe it is worth hanging on to--we could always use another Mac
around here--you just can't have too many. Thanks for all the
suggestions, you all have been VERY helpful.
Stacey

In a message dated 12/18/00 9:02:01 PM, rik@... writes:

RogerKIWI@... didst proclaim:

IMHO this upgrade is not worth it, unless you have a significant investment
in "extras" on the 7200 - loads of RAM, PCI Cards, second hadr drive
etc etc.

Addendum to my personal upgrade path: by buying a used 7600 and upgrading
the processor, I was able to move all of my RAM, my hard drives, my video
card, and all of my peripherals from my 7200 to the 7600. Took less than
30
minutes :-)
And further to this, I found this site a couple of days ago - selling a
chassis of the 7500 that can be upgraded with a G3 processor for not much
over $150 (and upwards) and still take the RAM, drives etc from a 7200...

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Cheers

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Re: Subject: 7200/90 Power PC

 

Thanks, I'll do that...Also, when I did the install, I did it right
over the top of 8.6 rather than a clean install. I have soooooo many
large files that it takes forever to save them all on my zip 100 (I
just did this when I did a clean install of 8.6, took me 25 zip
discs) I'm wondering if there is a way to install the 9 along side
the 8.6 while still maintaining stability AND the contents of my hard
drive.
Stacey

Stacey
It could very well be Adobe ATM causing the problems on your #1 iMac. You
need the latest version of Adobe ATM (4.6.1). Adobe ATM versions earlier
than 4.5.2 cause horrible crashes with OS 9. You can pick up your free ATM
at
<>
Good Luck
Frederic

on 12/18/00 4:03 AM, iomug@... at iomug@... babbled on
about:

Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 19:51:57 -0700
From: Stacey Roof <stacey@...>
Subject: 7200/90 Power PC
Also, I have 2 iMacs: #1 is a 333/192 running OS 8.6, #2 is a 450/192
running OS 9.0.4. #2 has fire wire and DVD drive, while #1 does not.
I would like to upgrade #1 to 9.0.4 (via the CDs that came with #2)
but when I last tried the result was multiple crashes in every
application, including the finder on start-up. I gave up and did a
clean install of 8.6.

My question: Does this have anything to do with the DVD or Firewire
Extensions that are being installed? I wiped all those out and even
ran ConflictCatcher, but to no avail (CC's assessment was that Adobe
ATM was the culprit, but CC is another story)...Could this be an
Apple software piracy safeguard? Do I have to purchase a new copy of
OS 9 to install on #1, rather than using the CD's that came with #2?
Even though I personally own both computers (one personal, one for
business) am I supposed to maintain separate software for each
one--ethically and otherwise?

I realize this is a mouthful--thanks in advance for input,
Stacey
--

Frederic Schroers Portland, OR USA 97212
2247 N.E. 9th Ave. (503) 282-7865
DJ for 4th Saturday Swing 'N ' Country 6:00am to 9:00
on KBOO 90.7fm. On the internet
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Then when you criticize them you'll be a mile away from
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Salon.com attacks the Mac!

Jon Bonner
 

Salon.com hasn't just written one anti-Macintosh column. Nope. They've
devoted nearly 1/3 of the front of their front web page to the topic. I'd
recommend checking it out pronto!

Jon Bonner


Re: MP3s?

Jon Bonner
 

On 12/19/00 9:47 AM, Stella Sloop <serenn@...> wrote:

Thanks to Brent Pennington who told me how to use my Quicktime to
listen to MP3s, and FYI I only load Napster now when I want to use
it... and things are back to normal.
Yet while Quicktime only plays one song at a time, programs like Audion and
SoundJam allow you to setup extensive playlists. SoundJam is free too, if
you only use the playback features.

Jon Bonner


Re: System Heap

Michael Munger
 

RogerKIWI@... said:

I guess I thought that the System Heap is dynamic, and will continue to grow
as required as long as there is free space continguous to the System Heap for
it to grow into.

And there "should" be contiguous free space as long as you've never got the
machine to the point where the "Largest Free Block" has got to zero. When the
Largest Free Block does get to zero tthe System Heap can't grow any more, and
if whatever it was that took that last chunk of memory doesn't properly
release it then no matter how many other programmes you quit the System Heap
won't be able to grow any more until you restart the computer.

"I think" <g>
__________ End of quote __________


I don't think that the largest free block has something to do with it. Even
when my computer is slow, the largest unused block is as big as a 100MB of
RAM. When you look at About this Computer and see how much RAM applications
take, the Mac OS is one of those and its progress bar is entirely filled. I
remember from experience that when the bar is full and that it refuses to
change, my computer slows down and is more crash prone.

The big deal is... it does it even after a restart. It seems that when I
open 5 or 6 apps, it starts doing it again.


Munger

<------ Personal ----------------------- Work ---------->
<- - ->
<------------------------- Writer at ------------------------->
<- - ->
<- - ->
<--------------------------------------------------------------->


Re: MP3s?

Stella Sloop
 

At 08:250 -0600 12/19/00, Jon Bonner had this to say:
Don't have Napster running in the background. Only use it when you are
actively using it. If you do that and you still experience a slowdown, I
doubt it would be because of Napster. Then again I suppose one never
knows...
Thanks to Brent Pennington who told me how to use my Quicktime to listen to MP3s, and FYI I only load Napster now when I want to use it... and things are back to normal.

--stella


Re: 7200/90 Power PC

 

Daly,
Thanks for the info--I'm going to keep it unless someone has evidence as to why I shouldn't.
Stacey

Stacey asked:

I like Conflict Catcher 8 very much. I run OS 9.0.4 and have the same programs you have, though I recently updated Photoshop to 6. I have absolutely no problems I could attribute to Conflict Catcher. I never have had, in years of using it, along with TONS of extensions (7 full rows on a 21" monitor--what a hog). Anyway, I have heard of other people who thought Conflict Catcher was giving them problems, but I personally recommend it anyway because I've never seen a hint of it myself, on my own computer or anyone else's.

Daly

Also, if anyone out there has any opinions on ConflictCatcher 8.0 and
its compatibility with other software I'd love to hear them. (I have
PhotoShop 5.5, Illustrator 8.0, Dreamweaver 3.0, Filemaker Pro 3, to
name a few) I bought it because MacWorld gave it 5 mice (sucker??)
and I'm a fan of D. Pogue who wrote the manual (shoulda just joined
the fan club), but it really has not been useful to me as most of my
problems are intermittent. I suspect it may be the culprit at times.

Thanks again,
Stacey
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Outlook Express vs Eudora Pro 3.1.3

Seeker
 

I am currently using a somewhat dated version of Eudora Pro; i.e.,
v3.1.3

I would be much obliged if anyone would care to comment on whether
it would behoove me to dump my version of Eudora Pro in favor of the most
recent version of Outlook Express.

Many thanks,
Seeker.


Re: MRP's RAMWATCH Memory Vendors

Gray, Liam
 

I've bought a few things from OWC over the years and have had great luck
with them. They probably dont have the cheapest prices on RAM, but they are
certainly reputable.

Liam

-----Original Message-----
From: david craig [mailto:dac@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 3:02 AM
To: Mac-L List
Cc: IO-MUG eGroup List
Subject: [iomug] MRP's RAMWATCH Memory Vendors



I'm in the market for a 128 or 256 MB memory module for my B&W G3/450.
The machine currently has 196 installed, all of it by Apple when I
ordered the machine. I truly haven't a clue whether or not the brand of
memory actually matters, and I'd love some help.

I bought memory from one of the Macintosh Resource Page's
(<>) a long time ago and was pleased with the
experience. The RAMWATCH price list currently undercuts the catalog
vendors I know of significantly. The current vendor list includes Data
Memory Systems, MacMart, MemoryToGo, Other World Computing, and RamJet.

I'd appreciate feedback on which of these vendors I should look at most
closely, and which (if any) I should avoid, based on your experience.
I'm more interested in the "quality" of memory that the vendor supplies,
because I know poor customer service gets you bounced from RAMWATCH, but
if any of you DO have rotten experiences with current RAMWATCH vendors,
I guess I'd like to know about that, too :-)

Thanks!
David


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printing in Internet Explorer

Dane Robison
 

The answer to this is probably right in front of me, but I can't find it.

In MSIE, when I try to print a web site that's built in frames, I can only
print one frame at a time. Isn't there an option somewhere to change that
behavior? I'd like to print the whole frameset, as it appears in the
browser.

Can someone point this poor soul toward the answer?

Thanks,
Dane


Internet Config Question

BrianS
 

Okay, so it's also a Eudora Pro question...

I'm using iCab as my browser of choice. It is selected in Unternet Config. BBEdit goes to iCab automatically. However when I click on a link in an email (in Eudora), it opens and runs Navigator... :-(

I looked through every setting in Eudora, and there are no areas dealing with "helper apps". AND, I've checked the setting which gives "full compliance with OT/PPP"...so, now what? Where else would there be a setting or Preference? Inside Navigator, itself? Thanks for your considerations.

All the Best,
BrianS


Re: Receiving and Replying to egroup messages

Roger Houghton
 

I use Claris Emailer which doesn't handle HTML and have had no ads,
pictures or garbage since the list moved to eGroups. I have to enter the
IOMUG address manually though.
But I've now found I can correct that in the Preferences so replies go to
the list automatically.

--------------------------
Roger Houghton
Bath, U.K.
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Re: Receiving and Replying to egroup messages

Roger Houghton
 

The LIST needs to be made non-HTML before the pieces will go away. I
have mine set to no HTML - and still get the pictures. The LIST needs
to be set to accept NO ATTACHMENTS - this will turn all the picture
ads into simple typewritten ads as below:
I use Claris Emailer which doesn't handle HTML and have had no ads,
pictures or garbage since the list moved to eGroups. I have to enter the
IOMUG address manually though.

--------------------------
Roger Houghton
Bath, U.K.
<mailto:mail@...>
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