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Re: How to CANCEL Gemini?

 

Clicking on that link gave me a “Thread does not exist” message. More irony. ?

On Jan 21, 2025, at 8:53?AM, Steve Kane via groups.io <skane-l@...> wrote:

?Ah the irony. Asking one AI how to cancel another AI. This is what perplexity.ai says:

;!!PvDODwlR4mBZyAb0!T-CH_r1J0EB6cdD4UHRHO63utjhZytmUOzI-9ZRNuw4223fZc8n-hdniaMSoKcVMk9epCBmA3MsgjllX5JGM6JK3GJP0M-c$

On Jan 21, 2025, at 10:04?AM, John via groups.io <OceanCity@...> wrote:

If you happen to know the 'secret' of how do I cancel or unsubscribe my subscription to Gemini I would greatly appreciate it. I have spent hours searching, Googling all the normal ways in which Gemini is billed, including the in-app 'Settings' at the bottom left there should be a way to manage or cancel but there is no entry to manage or cancel. Even in my Google One account I can see YouTube, but not Gemini. This is really frustrating. If you happen to know any tricks please advise.
TIA,
John





Re: How to CANCEL Gemini?

 

Ah the irony. Asking one AI how to cancel another AI. This is what perplexity.ai says:

On Jan 21, 2025, at 10:04?AM, John via groups.io <OceanCity@...> wrote:

If you happen to know the 'secret' of how do I cancel or unsubscribe my subscription to Gemini I would greatly appreciate it. I have spent hours searching, Googling all the normal ways in which Gemini is billed, including the in-app 'Settings' at the bottom left there should be a way to manage or cancel but there is no entry to manage or cancel. Even in my Google One account I can see YouTube, but not Gemini. This is really frustrating. If you happen to know any tricks please advise.
TIA,
John


Re: How to CANCEL Gemini?

 

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Was this something subscribed to through the Apple App store? ?I have a few subscriptions that are managed through my Apple ID, which on my Mac Mini running Sequoia 15.2 is in the main computer Settings, Apple account, Media and Purchases, Subscriptions with a “manage” button to make changes, including cancel. ?My iPhone has a similar section to manage subscriptions, but it is one level up from where it is on the Mac desktop. It is crazy easy to cancel these, by clicking into the desired subscription then hitting “cancel subscription”.

If this was separately subscribed to, I am not familiar with the item so have no other suggestions, sorry.

Mary Ann

On Jan 21, 2025, at 11:04?AM, John via groups.io <OceanCity@...> wrote:

If you happen to know the 'secret' of how do I cancel or unsubscribe my subscription to Gemini I would greatly appreciate it.? I have spent hours searching, Googling all the normal ways in which Gemini is billed, including the in-app 'Settings' at the bottom left there should be a way to manage or cancel but there is no entry to manage or cancel. Even in my Google One account I can see YouTube, but not Gemini. This is really frustrating. If you happen to know any tricks please advise.?
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TIA,
John?


How to CANCEL Gemini?

 

If you happen to know the 'secret' of how do I cancel or unsubscribe my subscription to Gemini I would greatly appreciate it.? I have spent hours searching, Googling all the normal ways in which Gemini is billed, including the in-app 'Settings' at the bottom left there should be a way to manage or cancel but there is no entry to manage or cancel. Even in my Google One account I can see YouTube, but not Gemini. This is really frustrating. If you happen to know any tricks please advise.?
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TIA,
John?


Re: printer incompatibility

 

Sight unseen - no, you're not. As I was just reminded, we learned to use computers when it was hard. Punch cards, floppy disks, paper tape, and even harder - some of us had to use Selectric typewriters.

Sorry I can't recommend a printer because my wonderful ten-year-old $59 Samsung laser, which is still chugging away, has been discontinued. But you want a cheap laser and you want to refill it with cartridges from Amazon.

Barbara

On Tuesday, January 21, 2025 at 10:01:26 AM EST, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:


According to a notice from Canon, my printer will be incompatible with the next software update. I’m hoping someone has a suggestion regarding what I should consider for a replacement. My needs are very simple: I print only in black & white & have almost no other uses than printing. (I’m an old man with limited technical savvy).

Thanks for any help!

Kurt Youngmann

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Re: printer incompatibility

 

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I still like our Brother MFC-L3770CDW Laser. Initial cost might be considered high but?
in five years, aside from a cover, we have spent nothing. Continues to work with my
mid year 2010 MacBook Pro and the wife’s brand new iPhone Pro Max. We don’t print
a lot, still using the original toners, with black nearing empty.?

Bob

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On Jan 21, 2025, at 8:01 AM, kurt youngmann via <tgobbi@...> wrote:

According to a notice from Canon, my printer will be incompatible with the next software update. I’m hoping someone has a suggestion regarding what I should consider for a replacement. My needs are very simple: I print only in black & white & have almost no other uses than printing. (I’m an old man with limited technical savvy).

Thanks for any help!

Kurt Youngmann

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“We may have all come?on different ships, but?we're in the same boat?now.” - Martin Luther King, Jr.



printer incompatibility

 

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According to a notice from Canon, my printer will be incompatible with the next software update. I’m hoping someone has a suggestion regarding what I should consider for a replacement. My needs are very simple: I print only in black & white & have almost no other uses than printing. (I’m an old man with limited technical savvy).

Thanks for any help!

Kurt Youngmann

***

“We may have all come?on different ships, but?we're in the same boat?now.” - Martin Luther King, Jr.


Re: Don't Click Twice

 

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On Jan 16, 2025, at 7:08?AM, Randy B. Singer via groups.io <randy@...> wrote:
It sounds like you are talking about actual malicious Web sites. ?
Randy B. Singer

Yup. This is Website directed malware that I was reading about.
Thank you for clarifying, and sharing the links.

All the best,
John


Re: Don't Click Twice

 

On Jan 10, 2025, at 11:34 AM, John via groups.io <OceanCity@...> wrote:

As I understand, ClickJacking has been around for quite some time and most browsers have native built in protection for this. The new twist takes this devious hack to the next level, calling it Double ClickJacking. "This entirely new threat surface is exposed by the fact that hackers can trick the user of almost any website and almost any web browser into clicking something without even realizing they are doing it." or if a user is prompted to double-click on a prompt.

It sounds like you are talking about actual malicious Web sites. No one bothers to create those anymore, because they usually get blacklisted the same day that they go up. Just about every single Web browser out there now includes Google Safe Browsing to protect you from them.

GSB is a built-in bit of technology to protect you from poisoned Web sites, drive-by downloads, and phishing sites, etc. It uses a constantly updated blacklist of malicious Web sites.







__________________________________________________

Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

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can't get to sleep

 

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Something has happened. My computer and my screen no longer go into Sleep mode.

I think it started after I turned on Focus, in an attempt to stop notifications during the duration of a movie.

Have restarted, have turned Focus off, turned on and off my Sleep settings (2 minutes screen saver, 3 minutes turn display off) under the Lock Screen preferences.

MacBook Air M2 (using external screen), 15.2.

Ideas?
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shalom,
ncoom

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Re: Don't Click Twice

 

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On Jan 11, 2025, at 3:40?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
It is documented that William Randolph Hearst started a war to sell more newspapers, so this is nothing new. The only difference between him and PT Barnum is that Barnum did it to sell more entertainment and no one died.?
Brent

Classic.?

“Always make sure you make more money selling your advice, than following it.” ~Steve Forbes ?

Cheers,?
John?


Re: Don't Click Twice

 

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I just make it a habit to double check the source of news for reliability and slant.?

It is documented that William Randolph Hearst started a war to sell more newspapers, so this is nothing new. The only difference between him and PT Barnum is that Barnum did it to sell more entertainment and no one died.?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Jan 11, 2025, at 07:48, John via groups.io <OceanCity@...> wrote:

?On Jan 11, 2025, at 12:10?AM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
I didn’t and don’t read tech articles on non-tech publications. You might for financial reasons, just not for tech operation reasons.?
I saw several hits on a couple more tech related sites, but few. They, too, were vague, and all within the week.?
Brent

Brent,

Yup. Great point. I'm kind of laughing now why I didn't adopt that perspective the way you did, especially considering my skepticism in just about all "news" reports, hence my post questioning the importance, or lack thereof, of this sketchy article.?

Still not really that concerned. Just curious. I have not heard of any other or new reports regarding this so-called Double ClickJacking hack.?
Perhaps it was a slow news day over there at Forbes, LOL.?

Just need to stay aware and vigilant at al times.

Cheers,
John?


Re: Don't Click Twice

 

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On Jan 11, 2025, at 12:10?AM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
I didn’t and don’t read tech articles on non-tech publications. You might for financial reasons, just not for tech operation reasons.?
I saw several hits on a couple more tech related sites, but few. They, too, were vague, and all within the week.?
Brent

Brent,

Yup. Great point. I'm kind of laughing now why I didn't adopt that perspective the way you did, especially considering my skepticism in just about all "news" reports, hence my post questioning the importance, or lack thereof, of this sketchy article.?

Still not really that concerned. Just curious. I have not heard of any other or new reports regarding this so-called Double ClickJacking hack.?
Perhaps it was a slow news day over there at Forbes, LOL.?

Just need to stay aware and vigilant at al times.

Cheers,
John?


Re: Don't Click Twice

 

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I didn’t and don’t read tech articles on non-tech publications. You might for financial reasons, just not for tech operation reasons.?

I saw several hits on a couple more tech related sites, but few. They, too, were vague, and all within the week.?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Jan 10, 2025, at 19:14, John via groups.io <OceanCity@...> wrote:

?On Jan 10, 2025, at 5:01?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
One, this and other articles are only about a week old.?
Two, since you generally need a password to take over an account, it sounds like it is time to turn off auto-fill on your various password managers.?
If number 2 is correct, I saw this coming a long time ago.?
Brent

Thank you Brent for your awareness of this issue.
I have all auto-fill prefs turned off on all apps, browsers, etc., for this and all the other obvious reasons.?

The article is ambiguous, and I can't find any corroborating details on what to be aware of.
The article is quite vague on details.

But my question remains. Can the hack work if the user does ?_not_ ?double-click?

Not panicking. Just want to get the facts straight.?

Cheers,
John


Re: Don't Click Twice

 

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On Jan 10, 2025, at 5:01?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
One, this and other articles are only about a week old.?
Two, since you generally need a password to take over an account, it sounds like it is time to turn off auto-fill on your various password managers.?
If number 2 is correct, I saw this coming a long time ago.?
Brent

Thank you Brent for your awareness of this issue.
I have all auto-fill prefs turned off on all apps, browsers, etc., for this and all the other obvious reasons.?

The article is ambiguous, and I can't find any corroborating details on what to be aware of.
The article is quite vague on details.

But my question remains. Can the hack work if the user does ?_not_ ?double-click?

Not panicking. Just want to get the facts straight.?

Cheers,
John


Re: Don't Click Twice

 

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One, this and other articles are only about a week old.?

Two, since you generally need a password to take over an account, it sounds like it is time to turn off auto-fill on your various password managers.?

If number 2 is correct, I saw this coming a long time ago.?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Jan 10, 2025, at 11:34, John via groups.io <OceanCity@...> wrote:

?
I'm surprised that no one is talking about this hack attack which I learned about reading in Forbes cybersecurity article on Jan 5th here at the following URL:
which may be blocked by a paywall if you don't have a Forbes subscription. I saved off an attached PDF with this post if you are blocked.?
?
As I understand, ClickJacking has been around for quite some time and most browsers have native built in protection for this. The new twist takes this devious hack to the next level, calling it Double ClickJacking. "This entirely new threat surface is exposed by the fact that hackers can trick the user of almost any website and almost any web browser into clicking something without even realizing they are doing it." or if a user is prompted to double-click on a prompt.?
?
iFrames, a window inside or on top of another window, are employed in some of these hacks. Other methods include a variety of diabolical schemes that are very concerning, if true.?
?
The good news however, unless I am misinterpreting the 30,000' view is "the user is asked to double-click on a prompt" is easy enough to avoid. Just never double-click. But is it that simple? I read the article three times but I'm not convinced the Double ClickJacking hack solution of simply never double-clicking.??
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Is it that simple or does the article imply that the hack threat goes far beyond this simple interpretation??
?
TIA,
John
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Don't Click Twice

 

I'm surprised that no one is talking about this hack attack which I learned about reading in Forbes cybersecurity article on Jan 5th here at the following URL:
which may be blocked by a paywall if you don't have a Forbes subscription. I saved off an attached PDF with this post if you are blocked.?
?
As I understand, ClickJacking has been around for quite some time and most browsers have native built in protection for this. The new twist takes this devious hack to the next level, calling it Double ClickJacking. "This entirely new threat surface is exposed by the fact that hackers can trick the user of almost any website and almost any web browser into clicking something without even realizing they are doing it." or if a user is prompted to double-click on a prompt.?
?
iFrames, a window inside or on top of another window, are employed in some of these hacks. Other methods include a variety of diabolical schemes that are very concerning, if true.?
?
The good news however, unless I am misinterpreting the 30,000' view is "the user is asked to double-click on a prompt" is easy enough to avoid. Just never double-click. But is it that simple? I read the article three times but I'm not convinced the Double ClickJacking hack solution of simply never double-clicking.??
?
Is it that simple or does the article imply that the hack threat goes far beyond this simple interpretation??
?
TIA,
John
?


Re: Xfinity/Comcast router

 

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On 1/2/25 12:16 PM, John via groups.io wrote:
On Jan 2, 2025, at 12:11?PM, Brian L. Matthews via groups.io <blmatthews@...> wrote:
On 1/2/25 3:41 AM, Otto Nikolaus via??wrote:
That’s [10.0.0.1] a 24-bit block with up to 16 million addresses. Was that set by default?
10.0.0.0/8 is one of the RFC 1918 non-routable blocks, and an address in that range (usually 10.0.0.1) is often used by default for the LAN side of things like gateway modems and routers. On the internet side, it will have a routable IP address, but, except for very special circumstances, you don't want the admin interface accessible via that address.
Brian

I've seen the 10.0.0.1 address often, but less than the more common default 192.169.0.xxx or 1.xxx shipped with consumer equipment. Is there any particular reason a manufacturer would choose the former over the latter?

Not any big reason that I know of. As you say, it is the biggest of the three non-routable blocks (2^24 or ~16m addresses, 172.16.0.0/12 has 2^20 or ~1m addresses, and 192.168.0.0/16 has 2^16 or ~64k addresses (actually some of the addresses in each block are broadcast addresses, so not quite that many, but close enough)), and it's the easiest to remember (any IPv4 IP address starting with 10. isn't routable), but I don't think any reason other than those.

Note that it's 192.168.*, not 192.169.*, which is a regular routable address block, and 1.* is also a regular routable block (for example one of Cloudflare's DNS servers is at 1.1.1.1).

Brian


Re: What Apple to get

 

I was using the website DIdn’t know about the app. I’ve got it now and it works.

Thanks for the info !!

Dutch

On Jan 2, 2025, at 5:58?PM, Roger Moffat via groups.io <rogerkiwi@...> wrote:

Are you talking about the Dish Anywhere website to play your recordings, or using the macOS app called DishAnywhere?


This app installed on my M2 Pro MacBook Pro allows me to view recordings from my Dish Hopper DVR

Roger

On Jan 2, 2025, at 12:54?PM, Dutch Junge via groups.io <dutch@...> wrote:

Airplay works but the laptop will not play any recordings on Dish Anywhere. Dish Anywhere is the problem. It will play from my iPhone and the iPod. That’s what’s strange.

Dutch

On Jan 2, 2025, at 11:56?AM, Otto Nikolaus via groups.io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

Is AirPlay available (icon in top bar)?

Otto
2012 MB Pro, 10.15.7

On 2 Jan 2025, at 15:15, Dutch Junge via groups.io <dutch@...> wrote:

I can easily share the screen and recordings from my iPhone and iPad but strangely enough I can’t play any of the DVR recording with Dish Anywhere on my MacBook Pro.













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Re: What Apple to get

 

Are you talking about the Dish Anywhere website to play your recordings, or using the macOS app called DishAnywhere?


This app installed on my M2 Pro MacBook Pro allows me to view recordings from my Dish Hopper DVR

Roger

On Jan 2, 2025, at 12:54?PM, Dutch Junge via groups.io <dutch@...> wrote:

Airplay works but the laptop will not play any recordings on Dish Anywhere. Dish Anywhere is the problem. It will play from my iPhone and the iPod. That’s what’s strange.

Dutch

On Jan 2, 2025, at 11:56?AM, Otto Nikolaus via groups.io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

Is AirPlay available (icon in top bar)?

Otto
2012 MB Pro, 10.15.7

On 2 Jan 2025, at 15:15, Dutch Junge via groups.io <dutch@...> wrote:

I can easily share the screen and recordings from my iPhone and iPad but strangely enough I can’t play any of the DVR recording with Dish Anywhere on my MacBook Pro.