but why spend hours trying to solve a problem when a simple update might do the trick

On Aug 23, 2023, at 11:23 AM, John Hay via groups.io <OceanCity@...> wrote:

I need to track down the rule in Apple Mail that's moving some emails around and having gone through manually the rules front-end dialog I can't find what's triggering this behavior.

Unfortunately Apple does not provide any way to search rules, in any way. I have dozens and dozens, with dozens of child rules.?

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The mail rules used to be located at either:

/Library/Mail/(latest version number)/MailData? or

...twin files called SyncedRules.plist and UnsyncedRules.plist

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But they are not there (or hidden) in Ventura 13.5.1 to my knowledge.

I guess things have changed quite a bit. If I can open the rules file I can just do a quick search for key words and then edit the rules? <dict> code, or at least find the title of the rule and go back to the front-end and try again from there.?

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Anyone know where the rules files went??

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All the best,

John

On 23 Aug 2023, at 08:57, RG Teeter via <rteeter01@...> wrote:

None were listed that made sense to me—?

Bob

On Aug 23, 2023, at 10:52, Ben Rosenthal <ben@...> wrote:

Which plist file was referenced? Or link us to the page you found.

On Aug 23, 2023, at 05:46, RG Teeter via <rteeter01@...> wrote:

?Yesterday on Ventura 13.5 — nine (9) aliases of 24 on my desktop ceased to function. Items can be dropped into them and appear where expected. However, clicking on the alias brings up the top level finder window.

The following did not change the behavior of the 9 aliases.
?Relaunching the finder
?Rebooting the computer?
?Using get info and checking path?
?Deleting alias and recreating alias — Why ?
?Updating to Ventura 13.5.1
????And repeating the above steps !

However, putting the aliases into a brand new desktop folder (conveniently labeled “Aliases That Dont Work in Desktop”) NOW allow the aliases to open to the expected place. A workaround only.

Researching (Google) found a 2022 question to a similar problem which referenced pList. I stopped there as I don’t speak pList.

HELP ! — Any suggestions ??

Robert Teeter (83 yrs young) (In Florida)

On Aug 22, 2023, at 15:41, Steve Bee <buytcfhe@...> wrote:

?On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 12:57 PM, Ben Rosenthal wrote:

Software updates are commonly a tactic for better device reliability. Is anything holding you back from upgrading to iOS 16?

The device has been reliable for ~2.5 yrs. and for 10 months with the same version of the iOS. Since I have not changed anything, I would like to try to find out what is causing the problem. Just going to iOS 16 without knowing what is wrong is a shot in the dark.

On Aug 23, 2023, at 9:11 AM, Otto Nikolaus via <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

I’m sorry if I wasn’t clear: isn’t that how it’s supposed to work, i.e., the phone switches between “earpiece” and speaker according to how you hold it?

Otto

On 23 Aug 2023, at 15:53, Bob Hasselbrink via <hippie1@...> wrote:

I can’t say that I have experienced that. I hardly ever use the speaker function, but there has been a
time or two when I needed to free up my hands. When I rested the phone on my shoulder the speaker
stayed on.

On Aug 23, 2023, at 10:52, Ben Rosenthal <ben@...> wrote:

Which plist file was referenced? Or link us to the page you found.

On Aug 23, 2023, at 05:46, RG Teeter via groups.io <rteeter01@...> wrote:

?Yesterday on Ventura 13.5 — nine (9) aliases of 24 on my desktop ceased to function. Items can be dropped into them and appear where expected. However, clicking on the alias brings up the top level finder window.

The following did not change the behavior of the 9 aliases.
?Relaunching the finder
?Rebooting the computer
?Using get info and checking path
?Deleting alias and recreating alias — Why ?
?Updating to Ventura 13.5.1
????And repeating the above steps !

However, putting the aliases into a brand new desktop folder (conveniently labeled “Aliases That Dont Work in Desktop”) NOW allow the aliases to open to the expected place. A workaround only.

Researching (Google) found a 2022 question to a similar problem which referenced pList. I stopped there as I don’t speak pList.

HELP ! — Any suggestions ?

Robert Teeter (83 yrs young) (In Florida)

On 23 Aug 2023, at 15:53, Bob Hasselbrink via groups.io <hippie1@...> wrote:

I can’t say that I have experienced that. I hardly ever use the speaker function, but there has been a
time or two when I needed to free up my hands. When I rested the phone on my shoulder the speaker
stayed on.

On Aug 23, 2023, at 8:23 AM, Otto Nikolaus via <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

Doesn’t it also toggle between the “earpiece” above the screen and the speaker below?

Otto

On 23 Aug 2023, at 13:01, Bob Hasselbrink via <hippie1@...> wrote:

A little more about the proximity sensor.?

It disables the touchscreen functions so one does not accidentally disconnect a call

or your face (accidentally?) order that pizza you’ve been thinking about all day.

Some articles advise removing the case, cleaning/removing/replacing any screen?

protectors. And of course “update” to latest OS and hard reset.

My phone has had this problem a couple of times and both the hard reset and case?

removal have gotten it back working correctly again.

On Aug 23, 2023, at 05:46, RG Teeter via groups.io <rteeter01@...> wrote:

?Yesterday on Ventura 13.5 — nine (9) aliases of 24 on my desktop ceased to function. Items can be dropped into them and appear where expected. However, clicking on the alias brings up the top level finder window.

The following did not change the behavior of the 9 aliases.
Relaunching the finder
Rebooting the computer
Using get info and checking path
Deleting alias and recreating alias — Why ?
Updating to Ventura 13.5.1
And repeating the above steps !

However, putting the aliases into a brand new desktop folder (conveniently labeled “Aliases That Dont Work in Desktop”) NOW allow the aliases to open to the expected place. A workaround only.

Researching (Google) found a 2022 question to a similar problem which referenced pList. I stopped there as I don’t speak pList.

HELP ! — Any suggestions ?

Robert Teeter (83 yrs young) (In Florida)

On 23 Aug 2023, at 13:01, Bob Hasselbrink via <hippie1@...> wrote:

A little more about the proximity sensor.?

It disables the touchscreen functions so one does not accidentally disconnect a call

or your face (accidentally?) order that pizza you’ve been thinking about all day.

Some articles advise removing the case, cleaning/removing/replacing any screen?

protectors. And of course “update” to latest OS and hard reset.

My phone has had this problem a couple of times and both the hard reset and case?

removal have gotten it back working correctly again.

On Aug 22, 2023, at 8:19 PM, Steve Bee <buytcfhe@...> wrote:

On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 05:49 PM, Bob Hasselbrink wrote:

I’ve had the same case on my XS for a couple of years. As of late, I believe it is giving me?

some problems with the screen becoming unresponsive. Especially after a phone call when I

find I can not disconnect. If the other party does not hang up, (like a robocall) I had to shut?

the phone off.

A little research pointed me towards the proximity sensor. It is the sensor that turns off the?

screen while you are using the phone up against your ear like in the old days. The idea being

that the lighted screen might mess with your vision I’m guessing.

Taking it out of the case seemed to solve the problem.

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Thanks Bob,
As I told Jerry, this happens when I am not actively using it, when the screen is normally dark. It just will not wake up.

On Aug 23, 2023, at 1:18 AM, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:

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On Aug 22, 2023, at 5:36 AM, Vincent Cayenne via groups.io <vcayenne@...> wrote:

I’m curious, Randy. Where does the Dragon product “Dictate for Mac” fall in all of this?
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The main Dragon site doesn’t seem to lead to it anywhere…

Dragon’s product for the Macintosh was easily the best available. “Was” being the operative word…it’s been discontinued for years now.

The Web site that you cited is for a very old version. Note the specs at the bottom of the page:

“? Supported Operating Systems: OS X Lion (10.7) or OS X Mountain Lion (10.8)"



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Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

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Software updates are commonly a tactic for better device reliability.

A few weeks ago I started getting One Drive emails that have anniversary pictures of places I have been. All my pictures are stored on my MacBook. Where did Microsoft get them and how to disconnect?

On Aug 22, 2023, at 7:16 PM, Steve Bee <buytcfhe@...> wrote:

?On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 04:09 PM, Jerald Levinson wrote:

By “become unresponsive” do you mean the phone freezes? The screen is still on but you can’t get it to do anything? Or does it shut down completely? Go black?

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What is the battery charge level when this happens? The same level every time (say, at 94%)? Or does it vary? Does this happen when the phone is plugged in and charging (or fully charged)? Is the phone hot/warm when this happens? After a long period of use?

Thanks Jerry,
I am sorry that I wasn't clear. The screen is black, as it should be when it is "sleeping" but nothing that I can do will wake it. It doesn't happen when I am actively "using" it, only when the screen is black when not being actively used. I have to do what is explained at;
I say when I am actively used because there is bluetooth which is always active even when I am not doing anything with it and the screen is dark.

As far as the battery charge level, it has been in the 70's and 80's percent when I checked the last couple of times it happened.

I do not think that it is particularly hot as it happens when it is being? handled and carried in the same manner as it has always been. And it does not feel hot.

Why do you think it is a bad battery cell?