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I'm bringing this thread back to life because I'm having a similar problem with my IC-7000 using the 9600 baud rate. I have a DigiRig Mobile and the idgiRig 6 pin DIN cable, fo rCAT control I am using a USB cable separate from the Digi. The software is VARA FM. The radio is set for 9600 baud per the manual on page 116. I do have audio at the digirig but at the radio when it is in xmit mode the audio input is very low. I have all levels on my laptop at 100% and I have tried different levels thinking I might be overdriving the radio. Just for grins I thought I would also try it on my Yaesu FT-7900R since it has the same 6 pin connection and I still have low output. I don't own a scope so I can't measure the output, the Icom likes to see about 0.4 Vp-p or 0.2 Vrms. Of course, the radio works fine on the SignaLink using the 13 pin cable on HF, but FM comms at 9600 baud is my main goal here. I hope somebody has this figured out. Laptop is running Win11.
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Rory-N6OIL
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This is good to know. Thank you. I am wondering why my 6 pin
Mini-DIN is not working with this cable as it works on other radios.
Chris KQ6UP
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On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 7:20?AM Steve W3AHL <w3ahl@...> wrote:
Chris,
Two issues to be aware of when using the 13-pin DIN ACC input:
The audio input on pin 11 is much more sensitive (100 mv.) than the DATA connector. Even with good ferrite chokes on the cable, it is susceptible to picking up RFI, which distorts the audio, especially when used in portable operation with less than ideal antennas and station grounding. The solution is to put a 68K resistor in series with pin 11 inside the DIN connector shell. This increases the audio input level closer to 2 volts, which decreases the effects of any RFI and also makes level adjustment less touchy with most sources. This is especially important for SCS Pactor units.
When using the ACC port, its audio input on pin 11 goes to the same input bus as the external mic connectors on the front and rear panels. If a mic is plugged into either port any noise in the room picked up by the mic will be mixed with the data audio, causing data errors at the receiving station. The only solution is to always unplug the mic's when using a digital mode via ACC. The DATA port does not have this problem.
Steve, W3AHL
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Chris Maness
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Chris, Two issues to be aware of when using the 13-pin DIN ACC input:
- The audio input on pin 11 is much more sensitive (100 mv.) than the DATA connector.? Even with good ferrite chokes on the cable, it is susceptible to picking up RFI, which distorts the audio, especially when used in portable operation with less than ideal antennas and station grounding.? The solution is to put a 68K resistor in series with pin 11 inside the DIN connector shell.? This increases the audio input level closer to 2 volts, which decreases the effects of any RFI and also makes level adjustment less touchy with most sources.? This is especially important for SCS Pactor units.
- When using the ACC port, its audio input on pin 11 goes to the same input bus as the external mic connectors on the front and rear panels.? If a mic is plugged into either port any noise in the room picked up by the mic will be mixed with the data audio, causing data errors at the receiving station.? The only solution is to always unplug the mic's when using a digital mode via ACC.? The DATA port does not have this problem.
Steve, W3AHL
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Hey Chris,
I am using the 13-pin cable... with the West Mountain P&P.... you will be fine. Your time has value - the pre-tested cables are generally well worth the cost.
On the rare occasion that I found that I was unable to get TX, it was always associated with one of two things - either I was not on USB (some other mode), or I had the wrong audio sink selected (I use Win11/10, Linux, and macOS). I generate CW from the normal key line / rig jack on the rear apron.
73's,
Glenn
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Christopher Maness Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 1:24 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [ic7000] No TX audio on JS8CALL It is probably something like the TX audio pin is not engaging the socket then. The cable works fine on my FT-817, but no joy on the FT-7000. That is why this problem was very frustrating to figure out. I just broke down and ordered another digirig and DIN 13 cable. I like to have all of the radios "fixins'" with it in a go kit. That get's expensive, but there is nothing worse than grabbing a box or a bag thinking you have everything you need only to find out you don't out in the field. That is why if I am taking a road trip and operating from the car I take a couple of different systems. If I forget something, or if some part of the chain breaks, I have another setup to fall to. At least that is my excuse :D Thanks es 73 de Chris KQ6UP On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 11:08?AM John Denison <kd5you@...> wrote:
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Chris I just connected my Digirig to my IC-7000 via the 6 Pin DIN plug and it keyed up the radio just fine while using VARA HF. I monitored the audio on my HT and the audio was transmitted as well.
I do not have the CAT cable for the IC-7000 so I had to specify the com port in the optional transmitting section of the VARA setup. In my case it was COM10.
The 6 PIN DIN plugs are typically wired the same way on every radio, but HF only radios typically don't have the 9600 pin wired, or they use that pin for something else. Radios with 2 meters & 70 cm including all modes would or should have the 9600 pin wired for 9600.
Sorry I could not help any more, but hopefully you get it going.
73
John Denison
KD5YOU
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It is probably something like the TX audio pin is not engaging the
socket then. The cable works fine on my FT-817, but no joy on the
FT-7000. That is why this problem was very frustrating to figure out.
I just broke down and ordered another digirig and DIN 13 cable. I
like to have all of the radios "fixins'" with it in a go kit. That
get's expensive, but there is nothing worse than grabbing a box or a
bag thinking you have everything you need only to find out you don't
out in the field. That is why if I am taking a road trip and
operating from the car I take a couple of different systems. If I
forget something, or if some part of the chain breaks, I have another
setup to fall to. At least that is my excuse :D
Thanks es 73 de Chris KQ6UP
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On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 11:08?AM John Denison <kd5you@...> wrote:
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Chris I just connected my Digirig to my IC-7000 via the 6 Pin DIN plug and it keyed up the radio just fine while using VARA HF. I monitored the audio on my HT and the audio was transmitted as well.
I do not have the CAT cable for the IC-7000 so I had to specify the com port in the optional transmitting section of the VARA setup. In my case it was COM10.
The 6 PIN DIN plugs are typically wired the same way on every radio, but HF only radios typically don't have the 9600 pin wired, or they use that pin for something else. Radios with 2 meters & 70 cm including all modes would or should have the 9600 pin wired for 9600.
Sorry I could not help any more, but hopefully you get it going.
73
John Denison
KD5YOU
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Chris Maness
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Chris I just connected my Digirig to my IC-7000 via the 6 Pin DIN plug and it keyed up the radio just fine while using VARA HF. I monitored the audio on my HT and the audio was transmitted as well.
I do not have the CAT cable for the IC-7000 so I had to specify the com port in the optional transmitting section of the VARA setup. In my case it was COM10.
The 6 PIN DIN plugs are typically wired the same way on every radio, but HF only radios typically don't have the 9600 pin wired, or they use that pin for something else. Radios with 2 meters & 70 cm including all modes would or should have the 9600 pin wired for 9600.
Sorry I could not help any more, but hopefully you get it going.
73
John Denison
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You're welcome Chris. Ironically I had the opposite issue with a Signalink USB and the 13 PIN DIN plug. I had to go with the 6 PIN DIN plug. While I have both the IC-7000 and a DIgirig with both 1200 and 9600 baud cables, I'll see if I can figure out what went wrong.
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John Denison
KD5YOU
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Hi In the past I have used a ZLP interface with the same 6 way cable on both the? ft 817 and the ic 7000 and it worked well, Dave 2E0DMB
The radio was set correctly.? My understanding is that all the radios
that take the 6 pin mini DIN connectors were wired the same way.? I
guess not.? I was able to use that port out of my SCS Pactor III modem
just fine (so it is not the radio settings).? The cable from my
Digirig to my FT-817 is one of those same cables, but it does not
play.? That is ok, I have purchased a whole separate digirig device
with the 13 pin DIN cables, and I suspect that will work ok.? These
arrive Saturday.
Thanks for letting me know about that menu setting (it was already set
correctly), but I did not know what that menu item did.? Now I do.
73 de Chris KQ6UP
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 7:08?AM J.D. Barron <jeter.d.barron@...> wrote:
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> I would have thought that HSEND would need to be keyed for the HF digital port to work. Perhaps the pinout on the plug is mis-connected.
> I used a signalink USB quite a bit with my IC-7000.
> I thought about the ALE with the IC-7000 but listening to the relays click with each band change made me think better of that.
> With ALE I would choose a radio with PIN diode band switching.
> I don't have the IC-7000 manual on this computer to look at the pinouts to see how likely a wiring error might be, but I know that the radio should work with one of the many digital interfaces, including home made for $10.00.
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Chris Maness
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The radio was set correctly. My understanding is that all the radios
that take the 6 pin mini DIN connectors were wired the same way. I
guess not. I was able to use that port out of my SCS Pactor III modem
just fine (so it is not the radio settings). The cable from my
Digirig to my FT-817 is one of those same cables, but it does not
play. That is ok, I have purchased a whole separate digirig device
with the 13 pin DIN cables, and I suspect that will work ok. These
arrive Saturday.
Thanks for letting me know about that menu setting (it was already set
correctly), but I did not know what that menu item did. Now I do.
73 de Chris KQ6UP
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On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 7:08?AM J.D. Barron <jeter.d.barron@...> wrote:
I would have thought that HSEND would need to be keyed for the HF digital port to work. Perhaps the pinout on the plug is mis-connected.
I used a signalink USB quite a bit with my IC-7000.
I thought about the ALE with the IC-7000 but listening to the relays click with each band change made me think better of that.
With ALE I would choose a radio with PIN diode band switching.
I don't have the IC-7000 manual on this computer to look at the pinouts to see how likely a wiring error might be, but I know that the radio should work with one of the many digital interfaces, including home made for $10.00.
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Chris Maness
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I would have thought that HSEND would need to be keyed for the HF digital port to work. Perhaps the pinout on the plug is mis-connected.?
I used a signalink USB quite a bit with my IC-7000.
I thought about the ALE with the IC-7000 but listening to the relays click with each band change made me think better of that.
With ALE I would choose a radio with PIN diode band switching.
I don't have the IC-7000 manual on this computer to look at the pinouts to see how likely a wiring error might be, but I know that the radio should work with one of the many digital interfaces, including home made for $10.00.
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Thanks, that is what I was wondering.? A setting.
-73 KQ6UP? Thanks,
Chris Maness
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On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 9:11 PM John Denison < kd5you@...> wrote: I had to set VSEND to On in order to use the 6 pin DIN plug for HF.
In set mode, punch the OTH button and go to item #20. Set it to On and see if that works.
73
John Denison
KD5YOU
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I had to set VSEND to On in order to use the 6 pin DIN plug for HF.
In set mode, punch the OTH button and go to item #20. Set it to On and see if that works.
73
John Denison
KD5YOU
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Hi Chris,
I have a older v1.5 DigiRig but the pinout at the radio end should be identical with anything.
Here is a PDF diagram
Let me know if that helps.
73
Danny, K5CG
HH 550-000-0609
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From: "Christopher Maness" <christopher.maness@...> To: "ic7000" < [email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 6:50:03 AM Subject: Re: [ic7000] No TX audio on JS8CALL
I am going to resurrect this dead thread.? I am having the same problem here.? ?I have digirig (verified working with an FT-817).? I can RX audio no problem, but I am not getting any modulation out no matter what the setting is.? I am using a separate CAT cable and the 6 pin mini din connector from the digirig.? Is there a setting that I need to enable on the IC-700 to get this to work on USB data HF mode?? Is this port only for FM packet?? Any help would be appreciated.? I am trying to get this thing running on ALE.
I guess I can try to purchase the digirig IC-7000 13 Pin DIN and see if that fixes it, but if the radio has an issue I would like to send it in to Scott.? It needs a new memory battery anyhow, and that is a solder in rechargeable job.
Thanks?
Chris KQ6UP DM14
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I am going to resurrect this dead thread.? I am having the same problem here.? ?I have digirig (verified working with an FT-817).? I can RX audio no problem, but I am not getting any modulation out no matter what the setting is.? I am using a separate CAT cable and the 6 pin mini din connector from the digirig.? Is there a setting that I need to enable on the IC-700 to get this to work on USB data HF mode?? Is this port only for FM packet?? Any help would be appreciated.? I am trying to get this thing running on ALE.
I guess I can try to purchase the digirig IC-7000 13 Pin DIN and see if that fixes it, but if the radio has an issue I would like to send it in to Scott.? It needs a new memory battery anyhow, and that is a solder in rechargeable job.
Thanks?
Chris KQ6UP DM14
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Thanks everyone for the input. (had to do my real job for a few days, so will be back to work on it now.)
To be clear on my setup: I’m using DIN 6 for audio, rx and tx, but using CAT for tx rx. not sure if this effects which audio/mics work. I know the speaker mic still has input.
Carl
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On Aug 26, 2021, at 1:57 PM, Kevin Grantham <kevin.n5krg@...> wrote:
No Data mode on the IC7000
Audio on the 13 pin is summed with the two mic inputs so if using that connector you will want to unplug the mic(s)
PTT on the miniDIN6 will mute both mics and the 13 pin and accept audio only from the miniDIN6. It is the better choice when going back and forth between phone and data since you can leave the mic(s) connected.
I say “mic(s)” because I made a short M-F modular adapter with the mic audio cut and used that for the Icom-supplied mic. I used a Heil ICM for the actual mic and used a footswitch with it. That gave me the ability to use the PTT on the ICM for hasty contacts, the footswitch when running a net, and the Icom mic as a handswitch. Plus I retained use of the keys on the Icom mic for direct frequency entry, stacking and so forth.
Love this radio. It’s now in my deployment box and gets exercised at least a dozen times per year.
73,
Kevin N5KRG
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No Data mode on the IC7000
Audio on the 13 pin is summed with the two mic inputs so if using that connector you will want to unplug the mic(s)
PTT on the miniDIN6 will mute both mics and the 13 pin and accept audio only from the miniDIN6. It is the better choice when going back and forth between phone and data since you can leave the mic(s) connected.
I say “mic(s)” because I made a short M-F modular adapter with the mic audio cut and used that for the Icom-supplied mic. I used a Heil ICM for the actual mic and used a footswitch with it. That gave me the ability to use the PTT on the ICM for hasty contacts, the footswitch when running a net, and the Icom mic as a handswitch. Plus I retained use of the keys on the Icom mic for direct frequency entry, stacking and so forth.
Love this radio. It’s now in my deployment box and gets exercised at least a dozen times per year.
73,
Kevin N5KRG
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With connections to both the DATA (13-pin) and 6-pin DIN jack:
. . . Is it possible that the IC-7000 is getting a PTT signal on the 6-pin DIN jack, . . . . and audio on the 13-pin DATA jack,
. . . and that it ignores the 13-pin DATA jack audio signal, because of the PTT on 6-pin DIN ?
Try switching things around so that both PTT and audio are coming in via the same jack.
.? ?Charles / va7cpc
PS -- I should have a manual reference for this.? I remember it as a problem on some rigs, but haven't checked it for the IC-7000.
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Bill,
Mine is simply in USB mode - with the interface connected to
port in the rear of the rig.
73's
Glenn
On 8/24/2021 6:42 PM, Bill Storey via
groups.io wrote:
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Do you have to put the radio into usb-d mode?, or am I confusing this with the 746 pro?
Would you believe? Sent from my shoe phone's big brother and still no keyboard. Please excuse auto connections caused by typhoons.
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Do you have to put the radio into usb-d mode?, or am I confusing this with the 746 pro?
Would you believe? Sent from my shoe phone's big brother and still no keyboard. Please excuse auto connections caused by typhoons.
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Thanks Carl….
more questions / advice (before you tear the rig apart) ? - have you ever been able to work digital modes with your 7K (or any rig)?
- do you have anything other than the Unitek Y-247A?
- are you intimately familiar with Linux?
- Make sure that pulseaudio has not switched out your ports (see picture below – from HamPi)
- Get PSK (on FLDigi) or FT8 on WSJTX/JTDX working first
? Should be electrically isolated from the rig…. Best practices
? ? ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Carl N1MRV via groups.io Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 5:58 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [ic7000] No TX audio on JS8CALL ? JD - going in through DATA connector, 6 pin DIN, and separate CAT cable. ?I’m trying to get one of the AX.25 programs working, so I can try on FM, which will be a different modulator. Glenn - yeah I should try JTDX. ?Trying to get AX.25 going, as this would go through an FM modulator, see if that works. I’m using HamPi, with a simple USB sound card, Unitek Y-247A.
On Aug 23, 2021, at 7:16 PM, Glenn Jensen <WA6BJQ@...> wrote: ? CB – before you rip the rig apart… does your configuration support other digital modes (i.e. PSK, FT-8, Olivia, etc)?? Are you using any sort of commercial interface between the computer and your rig (i.e. a or )?? Are you simply trying to connect PC audio to the 13-pin port – missed that in your config.
My configuration (with the 7K) works just fine, feeding it with a .? In my case, I also have a separate USB CAT cable (because I use this on Ubuntu and macOS in addition to Win10 (RIGblaster virtualizes the USB to provide the audio interface and CAT from a single USB connection (only on Win10)).?
73’蝉,
Glenn ? ? ? ? Thanks for the response. I’m using CAT control and everything there works. ?In fact, I can hit TUNE on JS8CALL, radio goes into transmit, and will modulate my voice from the speaker mic. It’s really weird. ?I can use the monitor function on ic-7000 and hear the tune tone and the JS8 worble… so really, the audio is making it into the ic-7000, and out the speaker somehow! ?But it’s not modulating the SSB.? The manual p 116 says make the data signal 0.4Vp-p and I’ve verified with my oscilloscope. Time to take the radio apart!!!! …. actually, before that, I’m going to hook up a function generator to the data in, and see what happens.? ?
On Aug 23, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Charles & Sandra Cohen via <cpcohen1945@...> wrote: ? The problem is probably that your software isn't telling the IC-7000 to go into XMIT mode.
Check the settings in JS8CALL, see how it is doing XMIT / RCV switching, and check that whatever it does on the DATA port matches what the IC-7000 expects.? I'm pretty sure there _is_ a "PTT" line in both the 6-pin and 13-pin DATA jacks.
Unfortunately, Icom didn't put a "digital VOX" capability into the IC-7000.
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The tune button on JS8CALL software also does not cause modulation (radio does go to TX, controlled by CAT)
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Ahh -- if the JS8CALL "Tune" button puts the IC-7000 into XMIT mode, but there's no power output from the rig:
. . . Check that you're using the correct pin on the DATA jack -- I think it's called "MOD" (modulator input),
. . . and that you're in USB mode,?
. . . and, if there's a menu item that switches between MIC and DATA, that it's set to DATA.
.? ?Charles / va7cpc
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