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Re: [IC-7000] Re: IC7000 Internal Clock Problem

Rich Matos
 

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I agree ,, if you are tired of a subject
delete it when you see the heading
that's what the delete button is for


On 11/10/2013 11:32 AM, Svenn Ole Fanakr?-Staurnes wrote:
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Can everybody stop beeing so sarcastic?
It was a valid question.

If You dont have something positive to say - then dont say it.

Mvh
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Svenn Ole Fanakr?-Staurnes.

sendt fra mobiltelefon.

10. nov. 2013 17:13 skrev "Mike-Dave" <dstwostep@...> f?lgende:
Did you buy your IC-7K to talk on or to use it as a clock? Very expensive time piece. I think it is time to put this issue to bed. I think it is TIME to ?scratch your watch and wind you butt.

Dave W8DMM


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De : Svenn Ole Fanakr?-Staurnes
Date : 10/11/2013 18:32:53
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Sujet : Re: [IC-7000] Re: IC7000 Internal Clock Problem


Can everybody stop beeing so sarcastic?
It was a valid question.
If You dont have something positive to say - then dont say it.


Mvh
LA9QLA
Svenn Ole Fanakr?-Staurnes.
sendt fra mobiltelefon.
10. nov. 2013 17:13 skrev "Mike-Dave" <dstwostep@...> f?lgende:

Did you buy your IC-7K to talk on or to use it as a clock? Very expensive
time piece. I think it is time to put this issue to bed. I think it is TIME
to scratch your watch and wind you butt.

Dave W8DMM
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Re: [IC-7000] Re: IC7000 Internal Clock Problem

Svenn Ole Fanakr?-Staurnes
 

Can everybody stop beeing so sarcastic?
It was a valid question.

If You dont have something positive to say - then dont say it.

Mvh
LA9QLA
Svenn Ole Fanakr?-Staurnes.

sendt fra mobiltelefon.

10. nov. 2013 17:13 skrev "Mike-Dave" <dstwostep@...> f?lgende:

Did you buy your IC-7K to talk on or to use it as a clock? Very expensive time piece. I think it is time to put this issue to bed. I think it is TIME to ?scratch your watch and wind you butt.

Dave W8DMM


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Re: IC7000 Internal Clock Problem

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Did you buy your IC-7K to talk on or to use it as a clock? Very expensive time piece. I think it is time to put this issue to bed. I think it is TIME to scratch your watch and wind you butt.

Dave W8DMM
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If you receive this thank a soldier.


Re: [IC-7000] Stream ads in the Yahoo user group's conversation area!

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Yahoo has offered the use of their groups for years for free. Yahoo has to make money in some fashion. Unless we as a group administrators wish to pay a fee to have our groups hosted , we are going to have to put up with ads, otherwise Yahoo will do like other servers, and just simply quit hosting groups . I think we just need to learn to live with it, and be glad that we get groups for free. Sincerely, KC 4 BO

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Hi Everybody;

Yahoo decided to place stream ads into the "Conversation" section. This is highly confusing and misleading.

Please go to this link and voice your displeasure with this method of false advertising.

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Also, can you please go to this link and tell Yahoo what you think about the ads in the “conversation” section.

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Stream ads in the Yahoo user group's conversation area!

 

Hi Everybody;

Yahoo decided to place stream ads into the "Conversation" section. This is highly confusing and misleading.

Please go to this link and voice your displeasure with this method of false advertising.

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Also, can you please go to this link and tell Yahoo what you think about the ads in the “conversation” section.

You can further go to:

And tell Yahoo what you think and you can also vote to keep Yahoo a pleasant experience and knowledge base, without ads.

If you are a administrator of a group please forward this message to all users in other groups you administer.?

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Re: display problem

 

Hello Tom,

I had exactly the same problem that I solved yesterday.

There is a small connector named J2231 on the main unit, next to the internal speaker connector.

This connector carry the video signal to the display unit.

I think you should check this connection by moving it slightly and see what happens on the display.

The shielded wire on this connector is very brittle and the inner wire is made of a single copper wire, so very fragile if manipulated too much.

I my case, because I unplugged and plugged the jack in the connector a lot of times (I had to fix another problem on my 7000) the inner copper wire was broken and these was a bad, intermittent connection that caused the problem.

For example, if you use an antenna tuner plugged to the 4 poles flat connector, plugging and unpluging it can move the connector J2231 and cause the problem (the 4 wires of the 4 poles flat connector run just on the top of J2231 and they move when? you plug and unplug the external tuner’s connector).

I my case, moving the external part of the tuner’s connector caused the “wawy” display.

I hope this can help.

Please let me know.

F6CTW

Rene

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---In ic7000@..., <kb1rrx@...> wrote:

I have an issue with? =the display on my unit and hope somebody can give me some incite.? I have had my 7000 for a couple of years now.? A month or so ago, while operating all of a sudden every time I transmitted my screen got "wavy."? As soon as I stopped transmitting the display went back to normal.? I did a hard reset and it seemed to fix the problem.? Last weekend I had the exact same experience?but this? time doing a hard reset did not correct the problem.? I tried my radio in a couple of other modes and the same thing happened.? Transmit = wavy display.? Not transmitting = wavy display.? My guess is that there is some stray RF getting into my radio but I don't know if that is correct or if it is, what could be causing it.? There are not any new electronics or electrical systems/sources in my home.? Everything is the way it always has been.? Any assistance that?anyone could be provide would be much appreciated.? Thanks, Tom


Re: [IC-7000] Re: IC7000 Internal Clock Problem

 

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On 9/11/13 3:24 AM, Milo Austin wrote:
I think he was already setting to WWV. ???Losing a full minute in only two weeks is entirely unacceptable. ???We're not talking about microseconds here, we're talking minutes. ???Apparently, ICom didn't put too much effort into the clock circuits. ???That's a shame especially for a where time is used in the very process, such as logging.
I once had a Timex watch that must have been a fluke (not a Fluke, hi). ???I swear it was so accurate it was scary. ???It gained or lost (forget which) only about 2 seconds in a YEAR. ???Maybe ICom should have partnered with Timex! Unfortunately, never had another one like that!???

73, Milo
KF5GCF


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Scott Remington <saremington@...> wrote:
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May I suggest a simple solution? Since this is a HF RADIO, how about one tune in WWV or other location-dependent time reference and
synchronize the radio to THAT? If accuracy is what you want, you're only limited by your reflexes and the speed of light. If you
need it to be more accurate, you're in the wrong business!

I haven't checked my clocks.??? In fact, only one of the 2 radios has ever been set to the right time, and that only happened after nearly 3 years of owning it!??? As you can see, the clock isn't a high priority item for me. :)??? For me, "opportunistic setting" by software that simply sets the time as part of its initialisation routine would be sufficient for my needs.???

Speaking of timers, the one big omission in my book is that there is no PTT timeout timer, so if you're running software control and something hangs, the radio could get stuck in transmit.??? Just had another look (and search) through the manual to make sure I hadn't overlooked that one.

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73 de Tony VK3JED/VK3IRL


Re: [IC-7000] Re: IC7000 Internal Clock Problem

 

I think he was already setting to WWV. ?Losing a full minute in only two weeks is entirely unacceptable. ?We're not talking about microseconds here, we're talking minutes. ?Apparently, ICom didn't put too much effort into the clock circuits. ?That's a shame especially for a where time is used in the very process, such as logging.
I once had a Timex watch that must have been a fluke (not a Fluke, hi). ?I swear it was so accurate it was scary. ?It gained or lost (forget which) only about 2 seconds in a YEAR. ?Maybe ICom should have partnered with Timex! Unfortunately, never had another one like that!?

73, Milo
KF5GCF


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Scott Remington <saremington@...> wrote:
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May I suggest a simple solution? Since this is a HF RADIO, how about one tune in WWV or other location-dependent time reference and
synchronize the radio to THAT? If accuracy is what you want, you're only limited by your reflexes and the speed of light. If you
need it to be more accurate, you're in the wrong business!

73,
AA7SR



Re: IC7000 Internal Clock Problem

Scott Remington
 

May I suggest a simple solution? Since this is a HF RADIO, how about one tune in WWV or other location-dependent time reference and
synchronize the radio to THAT? If accuracy is what you want, you're only limited by your reflexes and the speed of light. If you
need it to be more accurate, you're in the wrong business!

73,
AA7SR


Re: IC7000 Internal Clock Problem

 

Problems with the clock keeping time may be in part due to the clock battery getting weak.


Yes, there is a battery that is only used for the RTC - clock chip. I had one IC-7000 with a battery that failed..To use the clock it had to be set every time you turned on the rig. I gave up on it..? A pain to change the battery.. not worth the bother. My solution was to forget about the clock. I use a cheap little clock, there are lots of them available.

There was more discussion about this in this group in the past, search for more info..


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---In ic7000@..., <jeff.freedman@...> wrote:

It would appear from the thread that more than the rig’s clock is off!

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Re: [IC-7000] IC7000 Internal Clock Problem

Alex Netherton
 

I don't really worry much. WWV calls me every morning to get the correct time.
Kc4bo

On Nov 6, 2013 8:24 PM, "brian mackey" <brian.mackey@...> wrote:

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What did Icom say?

Thank you,

Brian Mackey - KC1MAC

On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Rick Barron <va3wu1@...> wrote:
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Same problem here . I await any answer you may get because I have never pursued the matter but should have.
VA3WU
Rick

On 2013-11-06 11:50 AM, "David Fox" <davefox73@...> wrote:
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Has anyone else experienced a problem with the clock on the display losing time? After setting the time to WWV, I lose a minute about every two weeks and have to reset the clock. Rig is used as a base station and never used mobile. IC7000 is less than a year old. This there a simple fix for this problem.

Dave
W3FOX



Manual

brian mackey
 

12 CLOCK AND TIMERS ??? Time Set mode

This transceiver has a built-in 24-hour clock (accuracy ??75 seconds per
month) with power-off timer function. The clock indication is always
displayed except after pushing [F-INP/ENT] (HM-151).

q Push [AF(set)] momentarily to enter the Set mode menu.

w Push [F-3 TIME] to enter the time Set mode.
e Push [F-1 ???] or [F-2 ???] to select the desired i

Thank you,

Brian Mackey - KC1MAC


Re: [IC-7000] Re: IC7000 Internal Clock Problem

 

Wow.. a fellow ham just posted a message about a concern wit h his radio and these are his responses. I had to take a second look to see what group I was in. I was sure this was the IC 7000 reflector.

Our hobby needs mentors and elmers not cynics and critics.

Rick
VA3WU

On 2013-11-07 12:24 PM, "Ian Hooper" & lt;ianhooper62@... > wrote:

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Or on lengthy messaging on inane subjects on this f orum ....

On 7 Nov 2013 15:43, "mkrotz" <mkrotz@...> wrot e:
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I'd bet many of us waste more than a minute on the Intern et and elsewise everyday.?


Mar k


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---- ---- Original message --------
From: Philip <pcsalley@...>
Date: 11/07/ 2013 8:20 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: ic7000@yaho ogroups.com
Subject: [IC-7000] Re: IC7000 Internal Clock Problem

?Right on Alex, LOL, but just looked at display here and the darned clock is off a w hole minute (slow).? Have no idea when last adjusted though probably a t initial setup at acquisition 3/29/2010.?? Phil / K4PO

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Re: IC7000 Internal Clock Problem

 

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The Manual says the clock may lose a couple of minutes a month and does not suggest what may be done about it – I readjust it when I think of it (Quick set screen) By the way it has a Second clock which you can select – I have it set to Zulu time


Re: [IC-7000] IC7000 Internal Clock Problem

 

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I live fairly close to the city of Kitimat in northwestern British Columbia; the power that feeds the Rio Tinto smelter in Kitimat sometimes finds its way in to the BC Hydro power supply. The Rio Tinto supply is a couple of hertz slower than BC Hydro supply. Consequently, sometimes a/c supplied clocks are out a few minutes here and there.

On Nov 6, 2013, at 9:28 PM, gre99qd@... wrote:

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?Hi Dave,

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Mine gains about a minute or so a month.? Its about as good as a watch from

the dollar store.? I depend on it during contests and? reset it just before the

event begins.

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Regards,

Gre W7MC

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Dave
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---In ic7000@..., wrote:

Has anyone else experienced a problem with the clock on the display losing time? After setting the time to WWV, I lose a minute about every two weeks and have to reset the clock. Rig is used as a base station and never used mobile. IC7000 is less than a year old. This there a simple fix for this problem.

Dave
W3FOX



Re: [IC-7000] IC7000 Internal Clock Problem

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Fearing that I may change this thread's direction , I am going to ask.?????? I talk regularly to a group of real gentlemen on 75 meters each??? morning . Some are more attentive than others about the ten ID rule. ??? Almost all are computer equipped and most have Atomic (or should I actually point out " Radio Controlled ) clocks . ??? Not wanting to waste too much time from our medical hour or the weather reports , we all ID at the same time . ??? ??? My computer nor my Atomic Radio Controlled clock is on the same time as the rest. ??? The clock??? & computer just reset themselves last Sunday morning and sure enough I am still almost seven seconds off from the group . My??? Watch took three days to find it's time but matches my computer & Shack clock with it's Atomic Radio Control . All three of my clocks are in unison which I trust as they differ equally from my Icom radio.??? Am I living in some kind of Time Warp or could??? my Radio friends be bullying me by deceiving their real time reports.??? I may have led a somewhat sheltered life and not recognize these conditions readily . ??? ??? ??? TNX in Advance ??? ??? ??? ?????? Chuck ??? ?????? Wq5B ?????? ???
On 11/7/2013 10:18 AM, Norm wrote:

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On 11/7/2013 6:32 AM, Rich Matos wrote:
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they advertised a clock
you thought that would be great
whats wrong with wanting it to be accurate?
"Rich"


It's as accurate as any other commercial battery powered quartz clock. It's the luck of the draw as to exactly how accurate any one clock will be - mine has lost 3 minutes +/- in two years. There's a small lithium cell in the radio to keep the clock running with power off.

For exact timekeeping, I keep an inexpensive Atomic Clock on the desk.??? It's biggest problem is that it's position sensitive - unless it's angled just right with respect to WWV in Colorado, it only updates occasionally, depending on 60 KHz reception.??? With correct positioning, it updates every midnight - then is accurate to 1 second.

Norm
W6NIM


Re: [IC-7000] Re: IC7000 Internal Clock Problem

Ian Hooper
 

Or on lengthy messaging on inane subjects on this forum ....

On 7 Nov 2013 15:43, "mkrotz" <mkrotz@...> wrote:

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I'd bet many of us waste more than a minute on the Internet and elsewise everyday.?


Mark


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone



-------- Original message --------
From: Philip <pcsalley@...>
Date: 11/07/2013 8:20 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: ic7000@...
Subject: [IC-7000] Re: IC7000 Internal Clock Problem


?Right on Alex, LOL, but just looked at display here and the darned clock is off a whole minute (slow).? Have no idea when last adjusted though probably at initial setup at acquisition 3/29/2010.?? Phil / K4PO

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Re: [IC-7000] IC7000 Internal Clock Problem

 

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On 11/7/2013 6:32 AM, Rich Matos wrote:
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they advertised a clock
you thought that would be great
whats wrong with wanting it to be accurate?
"Rich"


It's as accurate as any other commercial battery powered quartz clock. It's the luck of the draw as to exactly how accurate any one clock will be - mine has lost 3 minutes +/- in two years. There's a small lithium cell in the radio to keep the clock running with power off.

For exact timekeeping, I keep an inexpensive Atomic Clock on the desk.??? It's biggest problem is that it's position sensitive - unless it's angled just right with respect to WWV in Colorado, it only updates occasionally, depending on 60 KHz reception.??? With correct positioning, it updates every midnight - then is accurate to 1 second.

Norm
W6NIM