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Re: Price check for the IC-7000
MKM
Yes, I mean TCXO, sorry about the confusion.
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On Feb 26, 2005, at 11:13 PM, Ya`akov N. Miles wrote:
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Re: Price check for the IC-7000
Ya`akov N. Miles
--- In ic7000@..., "vvv333445" <mab2000@v...> wrote:
[snip] Well, looking at Universal-radio.com here are the current prices forthe mobile rigs: Here in Canada you can buy a barenaked IC-706mkiiG for CDN$1199 plus taxes. The filters come to approximately CDN$150 each. I have no idea what the "HSC unit" is. If you mean the TCXO high stability crystal unit part CR-282 it costs me CDN$200-CDN$300 including the recommended professional Icom installation on my IC-706mkiiG. 73's |
Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?
Jerry Keller - K3BZ
Any ham that would build a tower... for a HUGE new SteppIR MONSTIR yagi beam...way up on top of a hill...while homes all around are sliding down with mudflows... in the middle of non-stop record-breaking torrential rainstorms...can't be ALL bad 8^)
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GO - HOWARD!! I'm kinda enjoying all this hoopla about the (so far) phantom IC-7000!! with all the very best, 73.... Jerry K3BZ ----- Original Message -----
From: "jdow" <jdow@...> To: <ic7000@...> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?
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Price check for the IC-7000
vvv333445
Well, looking at Universal-radio.com here are the current prices for the mobile rigs:
IC-706mk2g with HSC unit and one CW + one SSB filter: $1,245 FT857ND with HSC unit and one CW + one SSB filter: $1,140 TS-480 with HSC unit and one CW + one SSB filter: $1,360 -------------------------------------------- Now, the IC-7000 will not need extra filters and the HSC unit is built-in. If we take the highest price (Kenwood at $1,360), the IC-7000 being a new radio AND a DSP radio (all existing radios are analog), you can see or imagine where the msrp and street prices will be. -Best |
Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?
jdow
I know Howard from nattering with him in email on the side. "I'd be
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willing to introduce him to my mother," so to speak. He seems like a gentleman. The "feeding frenzy" seems to strike him differently than me. I find it mostly amusing. I must say ICOM has built up some very nice customer loyalty. For all that I may cavil about the faults in my ProII I am quite pleased with it. (I just wish it was incrementally better in a few places that should not have cost anything to implement. One gripe probably cost the money of writing some dozen EXTRA lines of code in the DSP ROM. {^_-} The RF engineer in me is very fussy about this sort of thing.) {^_^} Anyway, W6MKU is not offended. And I hope others are not. I do suspect that getting a life is a good idea, though. Holding your breath until this 7000 puppy is available could be fatal. {^_-} ----- Original Message -----
From: "MKM" <mab2000@...> To: <ic7000@...> Sent: 2005 February, 26, Saturday 18:48 Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me? This group is all Gentlemen here. Your remarks are out of line. You should be banned. Moderator, please take notice and warn this guy or erase him from here. On Feb 26, 2005, at 4:39 AM, Dr. Howard S. White wrote: Joanne: Yahoo! Groups Links |
Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?
MKM
This group is all Gentlemen here.
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Your remarks are out of line. You should be banned. Moderator, please take notice and warn this guy or erase him from here. On Feb 26, 2005, at 4:39 AM, Dr. Howard S. White wrote:
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Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?
Dr. Howard S. White
Don't get me wrong.. I already put one on order this AM .... I love to have the first new toys...
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I have no idea what I ordered so it will be a surprise when it comes... Everyone also seems to have forgotten that the US$ is very weak at this time so that prices will much higher than you expect... __________________________________________________________ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished" Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist" "Krazy Yankee Six Loves America" ----- Original Message -----
From: p49k To: ic7000@... Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 10:10 AM Subject: [ic7000] Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me? --- In ic7000@..., Adam Farson <farson@s...> wrote: > Hi Howard, > I go aloing with Adam, I'm sure ICOM reads the messages too and the feed back might be helpful to them. I find it interesting how Hams repsond to new toys. P49K > As the whole IC-7000 concept is speculative at this stage, I see no harm in > a healthy dose of speculation. This can often lead to interesting technical > discussion, expressions of wishes/hopes for features and capabilities, etc. > > Speculation is encouraged - with the usual caveat that civil and polite > discourse is expected. (The alternative to same will simply not be > tolerated.) > > Best 73, > Adam, VA7OJ/AB4OJ > Owner, Yahoo! ic7000 Group > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dr. Ho ward S. White [mailto:drpaper@m...] > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 01:39 > To: ic7000@... > Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me? > > > > Joanne: > > All these people must be smoking something.. the product does not exist > yet...except for a brief mention in a French magazine...of some alleged > specs...and yet people are already pricing it, complaining the price will be > too high or too low, speculating on the filter configurations, etc. etc. > etc.. > > Get a Life Folks.. IT DOES NOT EXIST YET..Stop speculating... you are only > wasting bandwidth... > > Wait until it is offically announced in Japan (likely)... or Dayton (less > likely) > > I am still betting it wll have a number other that IC-7000 > > FYI - Like I did for the Pro3 and the SteppIR MonstIR, I am going to HRO > tomorrow and put in an order for one > > .. just so I can say I got the first one....(it's a guy thing again) .... > whatever it turns out to be! > > __________________________________________________________ > Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA > "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished" > Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist" > "Krazy Yankee Six Loves America" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jdow > To: ic7000@... > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:55 AM > Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me? > > > From: "Ya`akov N. Miles" <ve7alq@a...> > > > > How much is the Icom IC-7000 going to cost me? I presume it will not > > be the same price or lower than what I am paying for my new > > IC-706mkiiG. > > Infinite dollars today. > > > Does anyone know more about the filter options. Your English upload > > says that optional filters are neither available or required. Just > > how many software filters can be configured at once on the IC-7000? > > Can I have a 250 Hz CW and a 500 Hz CW filter programmed at once? > > DSP filters not crystal filters. With dual passband tuning you can > get just about any passband and center frequency in 50Hz and 100Hz > steps respectively as long as it remains below the basic bandwidth > setting for the filter, which is also variable in principle. > > > Does the IC-7000 transmitter conk out around 12 volts like the > > IC-706mkiiG, or is it friendlier towards 12 volt batteries? > > It does not run on batteries at this time. But that is because it > does not run at all at this time. Apparently it is still in design > not production. > > {^_-} W6MKU > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Yahoo! Groups Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > ic7000-unsubscribe@... > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > Scanned by WinProxy > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ic7000-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?
Dr. Howard S. White
You are right,,, except it is a bit tiresome to hear people complaining about prices that don't exist yet...
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From: Paul Manuel To: ic7000@... Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me? --- "Dr. Howard S. White" <drpaper@...> wrote: > All these people must be smoking something.. the product does not exist > yet...except for a brief mention in a French magazine...of some alleged > specs...and yet people are already pricing it, complaining the price > will be too high or too low, speculating on the filter configurations, > etc. etc. etc.. > Get a Life Folks.. IT DOES NOT EXIST YET..Stop speculating... you are > only wasting bandwidth... I don't really understand the purpose of this group at this point if it is not to speculate, such as you did on the eventual model number. 73, Paul K4PDM __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ic7000-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?
--- In ic7000@..., Adam Farson <farson@s...> wrote:
Hi Howard,I go aloing with Adam, I'm sure ICOM reads the messages too and the feed back might be helpful to them. I find it interesting how Hams repsond to new toys. P49K As the whole IC-7000 concept is speculative at this stage, I see noharm in a healthy dose of speculation. This can often lead to interestingtechnical discussion, expressions of wishes/hopes for features andcapabilities, etc. ward S. White [mailto:drpaper@m...] Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 01:39will be too high or too low, speculating on the filter configurations, etc. etc.are only wasting bandwidth...(less likely).... whatever it turns out to be!will not > be the same price or lower than what I am paying for my new---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --Service.
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Re: 2M Still 50 watts??????
Paul Manuel
--- Larry Coppala <k4sfc@...> wrote:
A side note: My WAG on the price is MSRP $1,400. If it's that much II also think we will see it under the glass at Dayton. And I hope the price is lower than you guys think! 73, Paul K4PDM __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. |
2M Still 50 watts??????
Larry Coppala
Since the spec sheet we are being shown indicates an increase from
20W to 35W on UHF(ref MKIIG), I wonder if the 2M is increased from the 50W the MKIIG currently has? A side note: My WAG on the price is MSRP $1,400. If it's that much I won't be buying it until/if the price comes down. I'm on a fixed income. As I stated before, I figure the Dayton Hamvention is where the big promotional info will occur. |
Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?
Hi Howard,
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As the whole IC-7000 concept is speculative at this stage, I see no harm in a healthy dose of speculation. This can often lead to interesting technical discussion, expressions of wishes/hopes for features and capabilities, etc. Speculation is encouraged - with the usual caveat that civil and polite discourse is expected. (The alternative to same will simply not be tolerated.) Best 73, Adam, VA7OJ/AB4OJ Owner, Yahoo! ic7000 Group -----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Howard S. White [mailto:drpaper@...] Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 01:39 To: ic7000@... Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me? Joanne: All these people must be smoking something.. the product does not exist yet...except for a brief mention in a French magazine...of some alleged specs...and yet people are already pricing it, complaining the price will be too high or too low, speculating on the filter configurations, etc. etc. etc.. Get a Life Folks.. IT DOES NOT EXIST YET..Stop speculating... you are only wasting bandwidth... Wait until it is offically announced in Japan (likely)... or Dayton (less likely) I am still betting it wll have a number other that IC-7000 FYI - Like I did for the Pro3 and the SteppIR MonstIR, I am going to HRO tomorrow and put in an order for one .. just so I can say I got the first one....(it's a guy thing again) .... whatever it turns out to be! __________________________________________________________ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished" Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist" "Krazy Yankee Six Loves America" ----- Original Message ----- From: jdow To: ic7000@... Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me? From: "Ya`akov N. Miles" <ve7alq@...> > > How much is the Icom IC-7000 going to cost me? I presume it will not > be the same price or lower than what I am paying for my new > IC-706mkiiG. Infinite dollars today. > Does anyone know more about the filter options. Your English upload > says that optional filters are neither available or required. Just > how many software filters can be configured at once on the IC-7000? > Can I have a 250 Hz CW and a 500 Hz CW filter programmed at once? DSP filters not crystal filters. With dual passband tuning you can get just about any passband and center frequency in 50Hz and 100Hz steps respectively as long as it remains below the basic bandwidth setting for the filter, which is also variable in principle. > Does the IC-7000 transmitter conk out around 12 volts like the > IC-706mkiiG, or is it friendlier towards 12 volt batteries? It does not run on batteries at this time. But that is because it does not run at all at this time. Apparently it is still in design not production. {^_-} W6MKU Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ic7000-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links Scanned by WinProxy |
Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?
Paul Manuel
--- "Dr. Howard S. White" <drpaper@...> wrote:
All these people must be smoking something.. the product does not existI don't really understand the purpose of this group at this point if it is not to speculate, such as you did on the eventual model number. 73, Paul K4PDM __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. |
Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?
jdow
Probable announcement is at some event in France given the source of
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the original news (leak?) {^_^} ----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. Howard S. White" <drpaper@...> yet...except for a brief mention in a French magazine...of some alleged specs...and yet people are already pricing it, complaining the price will be too high or too low, speculating on the filter configurations, etc. etc. etc.. wasting bandwidth... likely) tomorrow and put in an order for one whatever it turns out to be! ---- Yahoo! Groups LinksService.
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Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?
Dr. Howard S. White
Joanne:
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All these people must be smoking something.. the product does not exist yet...except for a brief mention in a French magazine...of some alleged specs...and yet people are already pricing it, complaining the price will be too high or too low, speculating on the filter configurations, etc. etc. etc.. Get a Life Folks.. IT DOES NOT EXIST YET..Stop speculating... you are only wasting bandwidth... Wait until it is offically announced in Japan (likely)... or Dayton (less likely) I am still betting it wll have a number other that IC-7000 FYI - Like I did for the Pro3 and the SteppIR MonstIR, I am going to HRO tomorrow and put in an order for one .. just so I can say I got the first one....(it's a guy thing again) .... whatever it turns out to be! __________________________________________________________ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished" Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist" "Krazy Yankee Six Loves America" ----- Original Message -----
From: jdow To: ic7000@... Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me? From: "Ya`akov N. Miles" <ve7alq@...> > > How much is the Icom IC-7000 going to cost me? I presume it will not > be the same price or lower than what I am paying for my new > IC-706mkiiG. Infinite dollars today. > Does anyone know more about the filter options. Your English upload > says that optional filters are neither available or required. Just > how many software filters can be configured at once on the IC-7000? > Can I have a 250 Hz CW and a 500 Hz CW filter programmed at once? DSP filters not crystal filters. With dual passband tuning you can get just about any passband and center frequency in 50Hz and 100Hz steps respectively as long as it remains below the basic bandwidth setting for the filter, which is also variable in principle. > Does the IC-7000 transmitter conk out around 12 volts like the > IC-706mkiiG, or is it friendlier towards 12 volt batteries? It does not run on batteries at this time. But that is because it does not run at all at this time. Apparently it is still in design not production. {^_-} W6MKU Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ic7000-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?
Hi Ya'akov,
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This phenomenon (actual blow-by caused by inadequate stopband attenuation of the filter, or signal leakage around the filter) cannot occur in a DSP filter system, as the stopband attenuation and comebacks (lobes) are a long way below the 0 dBr passband-centre reference. Have you attempted to measure the blow-by in your 706 by sweeping across the passband with a signal generator and measuring the audio output in the passband and stopband? Cheers for now, 73, Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ -----Original Message-----
From: Ya`akov N. Miles [mailto:ve7alq@...] Sent: 25 February 2005 12:22 To: ic7000@... Subject: [ic7000] Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me? --- In ic7000@..., "jdow" <jdow@e...> wrote: From: "Adam Farson" <farson@s...>[snip] Filter ringing is probably what he is hearing. The sharper thefilter the more the filter rings. And it will ring to the tune of offfrequency signals as well as on frequency signals.I should like to disagree. Neither of my two filters ring. Signals 5 kHz off frequency sneak past the 500 Hz and the 250 Hz filters in the Icom IC-706mkiiG. I know it is "blow-by" because I hear the signals offset by the correct amount (2.5 kHz to 7.5 kHz) as high pitched (Morse). I can tune in these signals and of course they are _much_ louder inside the filter passband. Signal strengths I am talking about are 40 over S9 within the filter passband and S5 or less when "blowing by" the filter. I trust that this is not going to be an issue with the ic7000 Scanned by WinProxy |
Re: Lead Acid Application
Hi Mark,
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Single SLA (gel) cells are often available in the surplus market. Cheers for now, 73, Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ -----Original Message-----
From: Mark Brueggemann [mailto:qrq_cw@...] Sent: 25 February 2005 13:56 To: ic7000@... Subject: [ic7000] Lead Acid Application The output of a 7-cell lead-acid battery under C/10 load will rangeWorks in principle, but short of buying discrete (and very large) 2V cells and making your own battery, where do you find 7 cell batteries? ===== Mark K5LXP Albuquerque, NM Yahoo! Groups Links Scanned by WinProxy |
Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?
If you are correct with pricing then it will be
a big mistake for ICOM. P49K --- In ic7000@..., MKM <mab2000@v...> wrote: Respectfully I disagree.soon- -not |
Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?
MKM
Respectfully I disagree.
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Icom seems to have their own pricing agenda. In a sense they do not compete with Yaesu or Kenwood in their minds. I truly believe that they believe they are the best and charge accordingly for their radios. Of course I want lower prices like everyone else but, this time I truly believe the radio will cost around the price I stated before. Again they will not compete with the likes of yaesu ft857 and such. People will still buy the ft857. Most of the people on this group will go for the 7000, especially owners of 7800 and pro3s. I always been an Icom person. This is like being an Apple fan. Yes they charge more, but boy what an experience. -best On Feb 25, 2005, at 3:39 PM, p49k wrote:
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