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Do our comments affect the design of the IC7000 ?

Tom
 

Hi IC7000 Fans,

Here's a question for anyone in the Group: Do we have any
evidence that what we write here affects the design of the proposed
IC7000?

Tom
KE6YNH, 73
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Re: 70mhz available on the 7000?

Dr. Howard S. White
 

Nothing new.. just the same stuff from the French Magazine

__________________________________________________________
Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA
"No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist"
"Krazy Yankee Six Loves America"

----- Original Message -----
From: Marty
To: ic7000@...
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 11:00 PM
Subject: RE: [ic7000] 70mhz available on the 7000?


Just when you thought it was the end...


Marty 8^)

-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Howard S. White [mailto:drpaper@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 2:21 PM
To: ic7000@...
Subject: Re: [ic7000] 70mhz available on the 7000?



Marcus:

The only information anyone has on the IC-7000 is what you have already read in
the French Magazine..PERIOD...

Currently there are no other rumors!



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Re: [OT} jdow's sig Re: Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC

 

Hi Joanne,

This was just a little too far off-topic. Please help us make running the
group a little easier, by not straying too far...(at least Howard's mudslide
story was loosely-coupled to his antenna thread!)

Best 73,
Adam, VA7OJ/AB4OJ
Owner, Yahoo! ic7000 Group


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Re: 70mhz available on the 7000?

Marty
 

Just when you thought it was the end...


Marty 8^)

-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Howard S. White [mailto:drpaper@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 2:21 PM
To: ic7000@...
Subject: Re: [ic7000] 70mhz available on the 7000?



Marcus:

The only information anyone has on the IC-7000 is what you have already read in
the French Magazine..PERIOD...

Currently there are no other rumors!


Re: Wish list, Icom take notes...

 

Richy, Tom,

I think we can lose the risqué bit.

Best 73,
Adam, VA7OJ/AB4OJ
Owner, Yahoo! ic7000 Group




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Re: Is it for real?

 

Hi Tom,

The Japanese do not forget 220; there is no amateur 220 MHz allocation
outside Region 2, and they perceive our allocation as somewhat tenuous. It
is a chicken/egg problem.

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ



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Re: 70mhz available on the 7000?

Brian Mury
 

On Sun, 2005-27-02 at 13:49 -0800, jdow wrote:
<grinning> There are ALWAYS a LOT of rumors.
And if not, then let's start some! :-)


Re: Price check for the IC-7000

Dr. Howard S. White
 

Who is taking over whom?

Which one will survive?

__________________________________________________________
Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA
"No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist"
"Krazy Yankee Six Loves America"

----- Original Message -----
From: jdow
To: ic7000@...
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [ic7000] Re: Price check for the IC-7000


Oh my! Fascinating.
{^_^}
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oba" <ja7ude@...>

> Adam-san and all,
>
> On February 25, Kenwood and Icom agreed to cross-hold shares and
> join forces in the development of next generation digital
> communication products.
>
> 73 de JA7UDE Oba
>
>
>
> --- In ic7000@..., Adam Farson <farson@s...> wrote:
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > Considering that all the Japanese manufacturers are now
> outsourcing PCB fab,
> > die-cast chassis injection moulding and other subassembly
> manufacture to
> > lower-labour-cost areas in Asia, Icom should be able to hold the
> price down
> > to the $1K level.
> >
> > Your comments about DSP vs. analogue/crystal-filter architecture
> are
> > absolutely correct. Economics, as well as performance and
> capability, are
> > driving the shift to 100% DSP implementations.
> >
> > "In technology, there are only two degrees of freedom: forward and
> down.
> > There is no backwards."
> >
> > Cheers for now, 73,
> > Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ



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Re: [OT} jdow's sig Re: Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC

Jerry Keller - K3BZ
 

Well,"Joanne W6MKU", you dropped two names I've known for many, many years ... Niven and Pournelle, probably the best collaborative writing team ever...not just in SF, but in any genre.
One word: "Footfall".
You're in good company, so I won't worry.
Nice to meet you.

73, Jerry K3BZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "jdow" <jdow@...>
To: <ic7000@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 4:44 PM
Subject: [OT} jdow's sig Re: [ic7000] Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC



From: "Jerry Keller - K3BZ" <k3bz@...>

May we know your name and callsign milady?

73, Jerry K3BZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "jdow" <jdow@...>
{^_-} I suppose I'm a lady. W6MKU sure as heck ain't a gentleman. I'm
to vicious when riled. {O,o}
Um, I'm good on QRZ and the call is right there before your eyes in the
message in which you posted that request. I find that amusing. {^_-}

{^_^} as a signature is so ingrained in me it's hard to break. It started
over a couple decades ago.

The first part, which actually happened after the second part had
begun, was my being assigned some work on a VAX-780 running VMS. I
have a character asset called curiosity. When I had time I prowled
around the machine, harmlessly since I could not finish my job if it
broke. I discovered that VMS disks and partitions are referred to as
[000,000] for partition zero disk zero, and so forth. I soon learned
that you can shorten this to [0,0]. I noted the resemblance to a face
right away.

The second part of its beginnings was my participation in an "Amateur
Press Association" "distie" (or distribution) called "APA-L" that is
collated weekly Thursday evenings as the LASFS, Los Angeles Science
Fantasy Society, meetings. Zines, a person's contributions, often had
interliners, stings of symbols to set off sections. One day I used
"[0,0]" repeated across the page for the first interliner. Then I
decided a variation on the theme might be interesting. By illogical
progression I started using [^_^] as a signature at the end of my
Zine.

Now, it seems Jerry Pournelle (yeah him) is a member in very long
and good standing of LASFS. He had gotten to know that I had computers
and modems. This was in 1985 with SLOW SLOW modems, mind you. He had
also heard I was doing some BBS work and CP/M hacking. One day he took
me aside and told me to find a "Tymnet" phone number and type "bix" at
the prompts, or something like that.

So when I got home I did. BIX was booted near the last day of March. I
was on it by early June of 1985. And [O_O] became my signature. On BIX
it was easy to "show resume" to figure out who a person was. So that
soon became my only signature. That lasted until not very long ago
when the lights were finally turned out at BIX. During that time the
signature rounded out a little, which I think is a little more
feminine. And I developed the {O,o} (crazed}, {^_-} (wink), and many
other variants.

It's hard to break a habit of essentially 20 years making. I still tend
to sign messages {^_^}. There is this little "reinforcement" that I see,
too. The ambiguity tends to lull people into thinking I might be one of
the guys. So when I start talking dirty er technical they have a better
chance of listening. Can you guess at my degree of contentment with the
kind of situation that has me the senior engineer present in a meeting
with the customer's men all asking the other men questions I should be
the one answering? Then when one of them turns to me to ask if I'd go
get coffee.... They were customers. I managed to hold a straight face
as I said I'd ask a secretary to get it. "My" half of the room visibly
relaxed when I kept my cool. At least some of them had noticed my
growing irritation. {^_-} So anyway, the "logical mistakes" tend to
reinforce the relative anonymity of the "BIXie" signature.

{^_-} Joanne, Wilma's 6 Mangy Kinky Undies (Wonderful 6 Million
Kilowatts Unleashed?) And for the record "every Thursday"
above means it. There have been fewer meetings that did not
happen than there are years the club has existed. And it's
the oldest SF club in continuous existance in the known
universe. (Yes, Larry Niven, the author, is also a member.)




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Oh ye of little faith! See new inter-net address below for more info....

Larry Coppala
 


It's just a little more than we knew, i.e. the modes offered. There
was a question about CW.
Also, this should quiet the "naysayers".
K4SFC Larry
(found this through Google)


Re: Is it for real?

jdow
 

From: "ki6o" <tseabury@...>

Group,
There is a huge amount of speculation here about this new IC-7*%&+
widget.
I think, if the thing is not real (a spoof of some sort), then whoever
did the picture should have received huge bucks from Icom for the new
concept!
--color screen etc!
I hope the thing has 220! The Japanese always forget that!
KI6O - Tom
Not all. My handy little Kenwood TH-F6 has 220MHz. And it's REALLY
nice for tracking down HF noise sources.

{^_-}


Is it for real?

ki6o
 

Group,
There is a huge amount of speculation here about this new IC-7*%&+
widget.
I think, if the thing is not real (a spoof of some sort), then whoever
did the picture should have received huge bucks from Icom for the new
concept!
--color screen etc!
I hope the thing has 220! The Japanese always forget that!
KI6O - Tom


Re: Price check for the IC-7000

jdow
 

Oh my! Fascinating.
{^_^}

----- Original Message -----
From: "Oba" <ja7ude@...>

Adam-san and all,

On February 25, Kenwood and Icom agreed to cross-hold shares and
join forces in the development of next generation digital
communication products.

73 de JA7UDE Oba



--- In ic7000@..., Adam Farson <farson@s...> wrote:
Hi Paul,

Considering that all the Japanese manufacturers are now
outsourcing PCB fab,
die-cast chassis injection moulding and other subassembly
manufacture to
lower-labour-cost areas in Asia, Icom should be able to hold the
price down
to the $1K level.

Your comments about DSP vs. analogue/crystal-filter architecture
are
absolutely correct. Economics, as well as performance and
capability, are
driving the shift to 100% DSP implementations.

"In technology, there are only two degrees of freedom: forward and
down.
There is no backwards."

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ


Re: Price check for the IC-7000

MKM
 

BIG NEWS!

I am impressed!

Thank you, Oba!

On Feb 27, 2005, at 6:17 PM, Oba wrote:


Adam-san and all,

On February 25, Kenwood and Icom agreed to cross-hold shares and
join forces in the development of next generation digital
communication products.

73 de JA7UDE Oba



--- In ic7000@..., Adam Farson <farson@s...> wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> Considering that all the Japanese manufacturers are now
outsourcing PCB fab,
> die-cast chassis injection moulding and other subassembly
manufacture to
> lower-labour-cost areas in Asia, Icom should be able to hold the
price down
> to the $1K level.
>
> Your comments about DSP vs. analogue/crystal-filter architecture
are
> absolutely correct. Economics, as well as performance and
capability, are
> driving the shift to 100% DSP implementations.
>
> "In technology, there are only two degrees of freedom: forward and
down.
> There is no backwards."
>
> Cheers for now, 73,
> Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ
>







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Re: Price check for the IC-7000

Oba
 

Adam-san and all,

On February 25, Kenwood and Icom agreed to cross-hold shares and
join forces in the development of next generation digital
communication products.

73 de JA7UDE Oba



--- In ic7000@..., Adam Farson <farson@s...> wrote:
Hi Paul,

Considering that all the Japanese manufacturers are now
outsourcing PCB fab,
die-cast chassis injection moulding and other subassembly
manufacture to
lower-labour-cost areas in Asia, Icom should be able to hold the
price down
to the $1K level.

Your comments about DSP vs. analogue/crystal-filter architecture
are
absolutely correct. Economics, as well as performance and
capability, are
driving the shift to 100% DSP implementations.

"In technology, there are only two degrees of freedom: forward and
down.
There is no backwards."

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ


Re: 70mhz available on the 7000?

jdow
 

Thank you for the info. I had rather suspected they'd be a reputable
source. But it doesn't heart to check.
{^_-}

----- Original Message -----
From: "MKM" <mab2000@...>

I have read Megahertz for about 10 years during mid 80's and I can
confirm that it is a solid circulation.
In fact, when the rumor came out, I was surprised that it was from them
since they are too serious sometimes for such rumors.

-best

On Feb 27, 2005, at 4:49 PM, jdow wrote:

<grinning> There are ALWAYS a LOT of rumors. (The remark about OBB
comes
to mind.) There is only one that traces back as well as the French ham
radio magazine. And, not knowing the magazine's reputation, I cannot
say for sure I even trust it. But there are ALWAYS rumors. (Joe told
Bill who told me that someone at ICOM in Slobovia said......)


Re: 70mhz available on the 7000?

MKM
 

I have read Megahertz for about 10 years during mid 80's and I can confirm that it is a solid circulation.
In fact, when the rumor came out, I was surprised that it was from them since they are too serious sometimes for such rumors.

-best

On Feb 27, 2005, at 4:49 PM, jdow wrote:

<grinning> There are ALWAYS a LOT of rumors. (The remark about OBB comes
to mind.) There is only one that traces back as well as the French ham
radio magazine. And, not knowing the magazine's reputation, I cannot
say for sure I even trust it. But there are ALWAYS rumors. (Joe told
Bill who told me that someone at ICOM in Slobovia said......)


Re: 70mhz available on the 7000?

jdow
 

<grinning> There are ALWAYS a LOT of rumors. (The remark about OBB comes
to mind.) There is only one that traces back as well as the French ham
radio magazine. And, not knowing the magazine's reputation, I cannot
say for sure I even trust it. But there are ALWAYS rumors. (Joe told
Bill who told me that someone at ICOM in Slobovia said......)

That's just a quibble. So call me "The Quibbler" in honor of my cousin
"The Riddler".

{^_-}

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. Howard S. White" <drpaper@...>

Marcus:

The only information anyone has on the IC-7000 is what you have already
read in the French Magazine..PERIOD...

Currently there are no other rumors!


[OT} jdow's sig Re: Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC

jdow
 

From: "Jerry Keller - K3BZ" <k3bz@...>

May we know your name and callsign milady?

73, Jerry K3BZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "jdow" <jdow@...>
{^_-} I suppose I'm a lady. W6MKU sure as heck ain't a gentleman. I'm
to vicious when riled. {O,o}
Um, I'm good on QRZ and the call is right there before your eyes in the
message in which you posted that request. I find that amusing. {^_-}

{^_^} as a signature is so ingrained in me it's hard to break. It started
over a couple decades ago.

The first part, which actually happened after the second part had
begun, was my being assigned some work on a VAX-780 running VMS. I
have a character asset called curiosity. When I had time I prowled
around the machine, harmlessly since I could not finish my job if it
broke. I discovered that VMS disks and partitions are referred to as
[000,000] for partition zero disk zero, and so forth. I soon learned
that you can shorten this to [0,0]. I noted the resemblance to a face
right away.

The second part of its beginnings was my participation in an "Amateur
Press Association" "distie" (or distribution) called "APA-L" that is
collated weekly Thursday evenings as the LASFS, Los Angeles Science
Fantasy Society, meetings. Zines, a person's contributions, often had
interliners, stings of symbols to set off sections. One day I used
"[0,0]" repeated across the page for the first interliner. Then I
decided a variation on the theme might be interesting. By illogical
progression I started using [^_^] as a signature at the end of my
Zine.

Now, it seems Jerry Pournelle (yeah him) is a member in very long
and good standing of LASFS. He had gotten to know that I had computers
and modems. This was in 1985 with SLOW SLOW modems, mind you. He had
also heard I was doing some BBS work and CP/M hacking. One day he took
me aside and told me to find a "Tymnet" phone number and type "bix" at
the prompts, or something like that.

So when I got home I did. BIX was booted near the last day of March. I
was on it by early June of 1985. And [O_O] became my signature. On BIX
it was easy to "show resume" to figure out who a person was. So that
soon became my only signature. That lasted until not very long ago
when the lights were finally turned out at BIX. During that time the
signature rounded out a little, which I think is a little more
feminine. And I developed the {O,o} (crazed}, {^_-} (wink), and many
other variants.

It's hard to break a habit of essentially 20 years making. I still tend
to sign messages {^_^}. There is this little "reinforcement" that I see,
too. The ambiguity tends to lull people into thinking I might be one of
the guys. So when I start talking dirty er technical they have a better
chance of listening. Can you guess at my degree of contentment with the
kind of situation that has me the senior engineer present in a meeting
with the customer's men all asking the other men questions I should be
the one answering? Then when one of them turns to me to ask if I'd go
get coffee.... They were customers. I managed to hold a straight face
as I said I'd ask a secretary to get it. "My" half of the room visibly
relaxed when I kept my cool. At least some of them had noticed my
growing irritation. {^_-} So anyway, the "logical mistakes" tend to
reinforce the relative anonymity of the "BIXie" signature.

{^_-} Joanne, Wilma's 6 Mangy Kinky Undies (Wonderful 6 Million
Kilowatts Unleashed?) And for the record "every Thursday"
above means it. There have been fewer meetings that did not
happen than there are years the club has existed. And it's
the oldest SF club in continuous existance in the known
universe. (Yes, Larry Niven, the author, is also a member.)


Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?

jdow
 

You'll hear it if you are here. In all honesty I know I'd forget by the
time it's actually delivered.

{^_-} W6MKU

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Keller - K3BZ" <k3bz@...>

When the first IC-7000 (or 700 or whatever) is actually delivered, let me
know 8^)

73, Jerry K3BZ