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Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ic7000 group. File : /Icom IC-7000.doc Uploaded by : noskosteve <steve.noskowicz@...> Description : English Version of 1st. article. You can access this file at the URL: To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: Regards, noskosteve <steve.noskowicz@...> |
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Received email from Icom support centre
Hi again,
Well heres the first reply from Icom not much info I'm afraid..... will keep trying other routes John G0VGZ. From: "world_support" <world_support@...> Cc: "IA Amatuer" <Amateur@...> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 12:00 AM Subject: Re: NEW IC706IIG REPLACEMENT Dear Sir,inquiry and support Icom!!the IC 7000 came from Icom France ???say yes and keep thousands of Icom followers in the ham radio world happy, |
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Re: IC7000/IC-706PRO
MKM
Care to go into more details?
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On Feb 24, 2005, at 4:34 PM, oz7dwdenmark wrote:
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Letter to Icom Japan
Hi New to group,
I have just compiled and mailed a letter to Icom Japan re the IC7000 hope they will answer soon, will post a copy of their reply on receipt. John G0VGZ (England UK) & a big hello to all ps I reckon the uk price will arrive at approx ?900 english sterling they will have to keep somewhere in-line with the market even though it has a TFT screen (Market prices in UK on Ham gear is rapidly dropping and has been for a few months) |
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Re: Price of the IC-7000
Keith LaBorde - K4KAL
$1395.00 is what I remember for the first Icom 706.
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I actually paid $1195.00 for a 706MKII in later years. Then again later $995.00, and $795.00 for a 706MKIIG. Keith, K4KAL ----- Original Message -----
From: wa8vnz To: ic7000@... Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:08 AM Subject: [ic7000] Re: Price of the IC-7000 Do you remember the pricing of the 706 when it was first announced? Many who don't would be suprised at its high level, compared to the sub $800 that it has been available for the pase couple of years. And of course that was the original 706 without all the improvements and features of the latest version. Taking into consideration the changes in the valuation of the dollar/yen down the road, one might expect similar price changes from the introduction period ( it apears the feeding frenzy has already begun), on through its mass production/ distribution period. Time will tell. All I know is that my $800 now days, buys a heck of a lot more radio for the buck than what its equivalent did back in the mid 60's when I was first licensed. Wether or not one would want to make an investment in 'new' gear in this day and age of possible BPL interferance is another matter. Enjoy it while we can. 73.....Mark/W8VNZ --- In ic7000@..., "Buck \(N4PGW\)" <na4fm-list@t...> wrote: > Hello to all and thank you to the moderator of this reflector. > > Ever since I have seen the IC-7000, I have been reading and talking about > it. Like most of us here, I have considered it the new IC-706 radio but > after all I have read and seen, I have begun to think that 7000 is to the > 706 what the 756 pro is to the 746 pro. > > What weighs most strongly is the fact that it will use electronic filtering > rather than the crystal lattice filter. If I recall, isn't this the same > filtering technology used in the IC-7800, the $10,000 radio? > > From what I gather, the 706 is the most popular mobile HF radio on the > market with sales greatly exceeding its runner-up. Right now it sells for > about $800 US. I realize that the cost of technology drops over time, and > with inflation, prices rise a bit, but at this point I am wondering if the > rig might not be priced considerably higher than the 706. Around here, a > few hams are thinking it will be in the $1500 US range. > > What do you all think? > > Buck > N4PGW ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ic7000-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: Price of the IC-7000
Do you remember the pricing of the 706 when it was first announced?
Many who don't would be suprised at its high level, compared to the sub $800 that it has been available for the pase couple of years. And of course that was the original 706 without all the improvements and features of the latest version. Taking into consideration the changes in the valuation of the dollar/yen down the road, one might expect similar price changes from the introduction period ( it apears the feeding frenzy has already begun), on through its mass production/ distribution period. Time will tell. All I know is that my $800 now days, buys a heck of a lot more radio for the buck than what its equivalent did back in the mid 60's when I was first licensed. Wether or not one would want to make an investment in 'new' gear in this day and age of possible BPL interferance is another matter. Enjoy it while we can. 73.....Mark/W8VNZ --- In ic7000@..., "Buck \(N4PGW\)" <na4fm-list@t...> wrote: Hello to all and thank you to the moderator of this reflector.about it. Like most of us here, I have considered it the new IC-706 radiobut after all I have read and seen, I have begun to think that 7000 isto the 706 what the 756 pro is to the 746 pro.filtering rather than the crystal lattice filter. If I recall, isn't this thesame filtering technology used in the IC-7800, the $10,000 radio?the market with sales greatly exceeding its runner-up. Right now itsells for about $800 US. I realize that the cost of technology drops overtime, and with inflation, prices rise a bit, but at this point I am wonderingif the rig might not be priced considerably higher than the 706. Aroundhere, a few hams are thinking it will be in the $1500 US range. |
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Re: Better eyes than mine
Per Eriksson
Snipped from IC-706 group:
Well, the one at the bottom says SET/REC and apparently has something to do with the new voice recorder. Next upwards has a recycle symbol/ANF and the other two says NBLEV. Those three has surely something to do with the extended DSP to do and are hopefully the end of a bad NB-era from Icom. To the left the menu/GRP-up/dn button is new and welcomed. The other buttons have moved around a bit from the old 706's. Those 508 memories are most surely divided in 5 banks plus 8 home-channels cause there is only 2 digits in channel on the display. We should still remember that this is a CAD-picture. Not a real photo of the front so it can still be different when it reaches the streets... --- Here is the follow up The top one says NB/LEV. I think the next one down says NR/LEV. Noise reduction, probably. --- I think that the knobs are the usual for the 706 models. It cant be clearly read. /Per _____ Fr?n: w1lso [mailto:w1lso@...] Skickat: den 21 februari 2005 00:18 Till: ic7000@... ?mne: [ic7000] Better eyes than mine Would someone with good eyes please tell me what the set of buttons on each side of the display read? Also, I cannot decipher what the twin concentric knobs are showing. Top left twin knobs --- no idea? AF gain possibly RF gain PWR button --- simple enough Botton left twin buttons? Could these be PBT??? 2nd row Left top Mode/? Preamp --- like 706 Tuner Call Menu? on the rocker switch? display Right hand side --- 4 buttons --- one to handle voice recorder??? 73 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor < oups/S=1705063108:HM/EXP=1109027898/A=2343726/R=0/SIG=12i7ioire/*http:/clk.a tdmt.com/VON/go/yhxxxvon01900091von/direct/01/&time=1108941498212010> < oups/S=1705063108:HM/EXP=1109027898/A=2343726/R=1/SIG=12i7ioire/*http:/clk.a tdmt.com/VON/go/yhxxxvon01900091von/direct/01/&time=1108941498212010> Get unlimited calls to < oups/S=1705063108:HM/EXP=1109027898/A=2343726/R=1/SIG=12i7ioire/*http:/clk.a tdmt.com/VON/go/yhxxxvon01900091von/direct/01/&time=1108941498212010> U.S./Canada < oups/S=1705063108:HM/EXP=1109027898/A=2343726/R=1/SIG=12i7ioire/*http:/clk.a tdmt.com/VON/go/yhxxxvon01900091von/direct/01/&time=1108941498212010> < 98212010> < :HM/A=2343726/rand=551053547> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ic7000-unsubscribe@... <mailto:ic7000-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <> Terms of Service. |
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Better eyes than mine
w1lso
Would someone with good eyes please tell me what the set of buttons
on each side of the display read? Also, I cannot decipher what the twin concentric knobs are showing. Top left twin knobs --- no idea? AF gain possibly RF gain PWR button --- simple enough Botton left twin buttons? Could these be PBT??? 2nd row Left top Mode/? Preamp --- like 706 Tuner Call Menu? on the rocker switch? display Right hand side --- 4 buttons --- one to handle voice recorder??? 73 |
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Re: What has kept me from buying most mobile rigs is ....
Joanne, Ralf,
Yes, please. {Dons "Owner" hat, responds to anticipated cue.} This is a topic which is not quite relevant to the IC-7000. I concur that it would be best to take it off-list. Best 73, Adam, VA7OJ/AB4OJ Owner, Yahoo! ic7000 Group Scanned by WinProxy |
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Re: What has kept me from buying most mobilt rigs is ....
jdow
From: "Ralf Reiterer" <ralfreit@...>
That's the way I used to do it. The switch into data mode is easy. NowYou pretty much have to play around to document it.I know. I also have done that for other radios. The easy solution for select a filter in data mode? That's the tough part. <sigh> That is what I worked around using the memory load trick. I found it has some utility if I do that. It's not huge. But it does work. And I get to jam set several parameters which slightly reduces the time overhead required to get the radio parameters fully changed. I implement 100 memories, the cannonical set of bands with WWV and 60 meters, and 3 vfos per hand. That combined with the push buttons I have anove ny tuning rate slider makes a rather easy to use implementation. The slider works logarithmicly. The further off center you go the faster it tunes. And I set the rate tickmarks with buttons so I can quickly move frequency in decade steps from 1Hz to 10MHz. I also added some handy buttons for 3kHz steps and 5kHz steps. The 1, 3, and 5 kHz steps make for nice manually controlled band scanning. I've been building the thing for myself, mostly. So it works the way I work rather than making any attempt to create an analog for any form of receiver dial. A remote control. If you want to see it I can send it to you. It hasIf they do it I do have experience with the "safe way" that we usedThat indeed is a very good strategy. It would be interesting if Icom has one glaring problem that I need to tweak and repair and some lack of controllability at the moment - TX tone and filter controls and the like. Stuff I set and forget for the most part. The problem is making changes too fast gets it confused. I have gone to considerable effort to make the remote control safe when you make manual control changes. That comes back and bites me a little. {^_-} I have in mind two strategies for fixing the problem. But I'm being lazy at the moment. If you play with C++ I can even let you have the source under GPL. Maybe we should move the communication off list. Otherwise people might<grin> At least it's more or less on topic. It is about the Pro's. Send me email if you're interested. (And if I don't answer within about a day send it to the list. It's rare but sometimes my VERY aggressive spam filter misfires, particularly if the mail is not plain text or is full of three letter combinations and odd punctuation marks. (Both are really good spam indicators, by the way.) {^_-} W6MKU, Joanne, (The broadcast video software I do is NOT GPL by ANY stretch of the imagination. This remote control is recreation.) |
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Re: What has kept me from buying most mobilt rigs is ....
Ralf Reiterer
You pretty much have to play around to document it.I know. I also have done that for other radios. The easy solution for that boring part would be that Icom document the memory layout for every radio supporting the 1A 00 command as they did for IC-R8500 and IC-R75. That would save a lot of time and also prevent any damage of the radio should corrupted data be written via that command (and the firmware didn't failed to recoginze the data as being corrupted - the IC-PCR1000 is such a candidate). This is what IThat pretty much looks like the layout of the PRO version. So seems that the storing capabilities have not changed between PRO and PROII. Wondering about how the situation is for the PROIII... BYTE unk1;Just a hit: I assume that unk1 really belongs to txtone (BYTE txtone[3];) as that is the case for other radios too. However I have no idea why Icom needs 3 bytes for a CTCSS tone when 2 suffice. ;-) And this is what I get for the three P registers, the 1a 01 contents.Unfortunately not. I too do not see great utility in that registers. ...I change bands and the like. It also allows me to play with datamode filter selections and bandwidths.For switching into data mode, you might consider using command 1A 06. If they do it I do have experience with the "safe way" that we usedThat indeed is a very good strategy. It would be interesting if Icom has chosen a (similar) safe way for updating the firmware in the IC-7800. If not that radio would indeed turn into a very expensive brick. ;-) Just for curiosity: what kind of software do you develop for the IC-756PROII? Maybe we should move the communication off list. Otherwise people might beat us for being off topic. Regards Ralf, OE5ROP |
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Re: What has kept me from buying most mobilt rigs is ....
jdow
From: "Ralf Reiterer" <ralfreit@...>
You pretty much have to play around to document it. This is what IWhere in the data field returned by the 1a 00 command doesYeah, it seems so since it also does provides split operation only by get for the 00 command: typedef struct { BYTE subcommand; BYTE memoryNumber[ 2 ]; BYTE sel; //Sel- Scan Select flag (1 byte) $01 BYTE frequency[ 5 ]; BYTE mode; BYTE filterbw; BYTE flags; // Flags: &01 - when set, Tx Subtone on // &02 - when set, Rx Subtone on // &10 - when set, Mode LSB, USB, // AM, FM is modified to data mode BYTE unk1; BYTE txtone[ 2 ]; // ? Really three bytes with unk1 BYTE unk2; BYTE rxtone[ 2 ]; // ? really three bytes with unk1. BYTE name[ 10 ]; // 10 bytes ascii name (Fill in end tag first) } ICOM_memory; And this is what I get for the three P registers, the 1a 01 contents. Alas, there is no command to transfer the Px registers to the VFO. (Ah, if you do know one I overlooked please pass it along.) I've not looked too hard into the Px memories because I see little utility to it. (I am using memory 99 as a utility memory for jam setting the transceiver when I change bands and the like. It also allows me to play with data mode filter selections and bandwidths. typedef struct { BYTE band; BYTE bandregister; BYTE frequency[ 5 ]; BYTE mode; BYTE filterbw; BYTE unk1; // maybe subtone flags. BYTE unk2; BYTE txtone[ 2 ]; BYTE unk3; BYTE rxtone[ 2 ]; } ICOM_px_memory; If they do it I do have experience with the "safe way" that we usedI wonder if the 7000's firmwareI really hope that it will be. Man each modern computer allows the BIOS in the Motorola Inmarsat terminals. Always run from RAM. For an update transfer to a never written to chunk of EEPROM or an actual PROM with the necessary bootloader code. Once new code is in memory and the set is running from that code it can be written to the EEPROM in one relatively fast operation. If it gets interrupted the untouched part of memory still allows you to update your radio. Otherwise those SatCom terminals could become VERY expensive boatanchors. It was well thought out in advance to prevent the boatanchor phenomenon. They learned from seeing what happened with the first Intel motherboards/boatanchors that had the EEPROM feature. {^_-} W6MKU |
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Re: What has kept me from buying most mobilt rigs is ....
Ralf Reiterer
Where in the data field returned by the 1a 00 command doesYeah, it seems so since it also does provides split operation only by command 0F but no shift state (DUP-, DUP+). Unfortunately I have not found any documentation about the contents sent by the IC-756PROII and III for command 1A 00 . As I'm currently writing a IC-756/PRO/PROII/PROIII driver for my software (www.radioctl.com) any documentation for that command would be helpful. It's another "failing" on theUnfortunately that not only convers the ProII or III firmware but almost any. Take the IC-706MKIIG, it has the same front panel than the IC-703 but unlike the radio the MKIIG does not allow controlling volume or squelch via CI-V - a feature/command that has already been available when the IC-R7100 came out! Another example is the new R20. It has exactly the same command set than the R10 although the radio itself has many more features. I really have no idea why they place such unnecessary (virtual) limits in the firmware... I wonder if the 7000's firmwareI really hope that it will be. Man each modern computer allows the BIOS to be updated, so shouldn't it be standard for all modern radio devices too!? Ralf |
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Re: What has kept me from buying most mobilt rigs is ....
jdow
From: "Ralf Reiterer" <ralfreit@...>
...You can already download memory files to the IC-706... there On the other hand all modern Icom radios like IC-756ProII/III or IC-703Where in the data field returned by the 1a 00 command does the ProII return repeater offset? It returns tones and whether tones are in use. It rather ignores the concept of offset as far as I can find. It's another "failing" on the part of ICOM in the ProII. And if the firmware cannot be updated in the ProIII there are undubtedly some similar failures that it endures. I wonder if the 7000's firmware will be updateable. {^_-} |
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Re: What has kept me from buying most mobilt rigs is ....
Ralf Reiterer
You can already download memory files to the IC-706... thereUnfortunately that's not 100% correct. The memory storing and loading capability offered by the IC-706 over CI-V does not allow to write/read the full contents of a memory channel. For example it is not possible to write the alphanumeric memory name. Also the split frequency cannot be read/written directly. On the other hand all modern Icom radios like IC-756ProII/III or IC-703 offer an extended command (1A 00) that allows to read/write the full content of the channel. On the IC-703 for example it is possible to write split frequency, CTCSS and repeater tone and even the alphanumeric memory name with this extended command. As the IC-703 is very similar to the IC-706MKIIG (with respect to the firmware) that would have been also a great addition to that rig. The bottom line is, I really hope the IC-7000 will provide that command and (more important) Icom will document it properly as they did for IC-R8500. Regards Ralf |
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Re: What has kept me from buying most mobilt rigs is ....
Dr. Howard S. White
You can already download memory files to the IC-706... there is software that does this very well.. It uses the C-IV interface on the 706.
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From: WD8ARZ To: ic7000@... Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 11:39 AM Subject: [ic7000] What has kept me from buying most mobilt rigs is .... What has kept me from buying most mobile rigs is the lack of a computer interface that lets me download and upload memory files to and from the radio. Its beyond me why any computer interface to a radio doesn't always include that feature... or why bother at all eh? The ability to load frequencies of interest based on current events going on in the world (ham and swl), and for different travel destinations is important to me. It takes a lot of time to manually load frequencies. It takes a long time to create memory files too for various interest support. But when done, it is so fast and convenient to change those memory channels, even on the road with a lap top. Keep in mind I prefer the radio to be as free of a computer connection to work fully and completely. I don't want a computer to have to be connected to fake the memory files for me that are not there when the radio is bare bones. 73 from Bill - WD8ARZ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Get unlimited calls to U.S./Canada ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ic7000-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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