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Re: [IC-7000] Re: Grounding plus newbie questions.
Bob Brooks
The radio has different filters to eliminate noise. I would read the manual receive section to find out how to find them and just play. They all have a default reset so you can always go back. I use headphones They are very helpful. I also have a speaker set up to the speaker jack which I mostly use on VHF/UHF as them ?FM on the higher bands ?is usually stronger audio. ButI always use phones on HF. On Saturday, November 30,
2013 1:39 PM, Bob Brooks wrote:
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The two pronged connector goes to an external power supply that will convert ac current to the dc 13.8 v current that operates your radio. The external power supply is what gets plugged into your wall outlet. There is a red line and a black line that probably has exposed wire on one end and a black plug on the other end. The black plug goes into the back of the radio and the exposed wires connect to the power supply. BE SURE to connect the black
wire to the negative post (-)
on the power supply and the red wire to the positive post (+) Check out the following link so that you can see what power supplies look like (I am not suggesting this brand just that I have one There are many other good supplies out
there But this one works). My suggestion would be; if you don't know what something is for on the radio, don't touch it. We all started out as you have and the learning curve never ends. That is what I love about this hobby. Best of luck. bb KC1AKV On Saturday, November 30, 2013 9:55 AM, W7SLS wrote:
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>>?Do I have to plug in or ground the two pronged connector when [I use the IC-7000] at home as a base station? ?- Alex [no call sign yet] Alex, Welcome to ham radio. ?Lots to learn,?and in my opinion, well worth it. ?I’d recommend that (if you haven’t already) you check out local ham radio clubs to see which one meets your needs/interests. One?way to find them: ?? ?enter your zip code, etc, and get a list of ones to visit. I don’t know what
you mean by ‘2-pronged connector’, but the manual has some help. Page 17 of my manual (page numbers sometimes change version to version) shows the necessary connections: Connect the DC 13.8 Volt connector to a 13.8 volt DC power supply (pay attention to polarity) (optional but recommended) connect the GND (ground) terminal to a ground ~as others mentioned, do NOT connect a microphone until you have your license~ ~do not connect a key until you have your
license~ Connect an antenna to one (or both) antenna ports Note that diagram omits what many would consider essential items (e.g lightning protection on antenna lines). Best of luck to you. 73 Scott W7SLS |
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Re: [IC-7000] Grounding plus newbie questions.
"?Radio was grounded to a deep ground rod, and also the AC Power green wire wasintact per the rules. Haven't figured that one yet." ---In ic7000@..., <whitaker@...> wrote: de WB2CPN, ham since 1947. Bill, KM0F said it all. Also, Any wire that comes in the house can not be left hanging inside without some ground or termination on it. Left alone it will build up a static charge that will remove your socks. You can't win them all. I just lost my IC-7000, a very good all-purpose radio, when the lightning came in on the antenna coax. Radio was grounded to a deep ground rod, and also the AC Power green wire was intact per the rules. Haven't figured that one yet. House and other insurance often does not cover dumb things people do. 73 Clete +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ What was the grounding at the antenna? I can figure out what happened real easy with the ground rod attached to the radio - it provided a low impedance path to ground, exactly what lightning is looking for. |
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Re: [IC-7000] Grounding plus newbie questions.
C.Whitaker
de WB2CPN, ham since 1947.
Bill, KM0F said it all. Also, Any wire that comes in the house can not be left hanging inside without some ground or termination on it. Left alone it will build up a static charge that will remove your socks. You can't win them all. I just lost my IC-7000, a very good all-purpose radio, when the lightning came in on the antenna coax. Radio was grounded to a deep ground rod, and also the AC Power green wire was intact per the rules. Haven't figured that one yet. House and other insurance often does not cover dumb things people do. 73 Clete +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ |
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Re: [IC-7000] Grounding plus newbie questions.
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Hi again Alex,
As for speakers, I use speakers that have a solid
box or housing, and most of the enclosures I fill with acoustical or fiber glass
insulation.? It seems to cut the bass response and attenuates the high
frequency noise caused by the static.? Depending on what the enclosure is
made out of, sort of dictates how tight or loose the sound deadening material
gets packed.? Personally, I think most ham speaker enclosures are over
priced and under qualified for a communications system.? Do a little
experimenting and you can get a really good speaker on the cheap.? I don’t
think I have more than $25.00 in any one of mine.
73???
Bill KM0F Amateurs must be tough, HAM RADIO IS A ‘CONTACT’ SPORT! From: alex.c.lawler@...
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 4:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [IC-7000] Grounding plus newbie
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Hi Bill. Thanks a lot for the advise. I will buy the ARRL 2014 when it is
released. I love the hobby already. I have been listening to dx for 2 years
almost but have only just switched from a comms receiver to a transceiver. The
Icom 7000 makes a great receiver on HF. I have yet to try on VHF/UHF. I must
admit that there is bad intermodulation around 300/400/500khzs from several
local MW power houses but then again I'm not bothered about MW dx and I don't
think the 7000 was designed for it primarily anyway. Other than that it is great
and I look forward to studying for my license. Cheers Alex |
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Re: [IC-7000] Re: Grounding plus newbie questions.
Peter Winters
From: brian mackey To: ; Subject: Re: [IC-7000] Re: Grounding plus newbie questions. Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2013 7:49:03 PM
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Re: [IC-7000] Re: Grounding plus newbie questions.
开云体育And I guess I might add, “Don’t press the tuner button if an antenna is not connected."On Nov 30, 2013, at 11:49 AM, brian mackey <brian.mackey@...> wrote:
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Re: [IC-7000] Hi I am new to this group I have problems with no ssb on tx
Helen - I can't remember anyone else on this group with no TX only on SSB. In this group's Files section, look for '7K TX RF Levels.doc', which contains various signal levels that are useful in troubleshooting problems. ?The TX signal levels were taken in CW mode, but should be similar for SSB with full modulation. What are you using to measure the IF voltages? ?What is the signal level INTO the 1st IF and under what conditions (tone generator, loud AHHH into mic, etc.)? The last section of that document also has ALC voltages for FM and SSB. ?You reported that you have all ALC bars on but no ALC voltage. ?Where are you measuring ALC voltage? ?For SSB it should be 2.25 - 2.75 VDC at the point described in my notes. If the ALC meter has all bars on, that would reduce the 3rd & 2nd IF stage gain, which would of course reduce the 1st IF output. ?Recheck the ALC voltage per my notes. There isn't much in the hardware that is unique to SSB. ?The 3rd IF local oscillator frequencies are changed, per page 3-8 of the service manual. ?If you have a frequency counter, you could verify they are correct. ?The DDS IC is programmed via its serial data port, so there's no SSB mode signal that would account for your problem. Other than the 3rd LO, I haven't seen any hardware that is unique to SSB mode -- it's all in the firmware. Is RX in SSB mode also broken? I haven't seen any problems with solder joint quality in the 12+ 7K's I've worked on. Most had a thorough inspection under a 20-30X inspection scope with ring light, including applying pressure on some leads with a micro probe to make sure the bond was solid. ? As to recommendations for SMT rework equipment -- if you don't have it already, it's probably cheaper to send the radio to a Service Center, in my opinion. ?It costs about $500+ (USD) ?for basic equipment to properly change chip caps & resistors plus small IC's. ?You can try to do it for less, but at the risk of lifting traces on the PCB. If you still have connections with people that work at a company that does SMT assembly & rework, they may be a better option. Steve, W3AHL ---In ic7000@..., <helen_3ry@...> wrote: Hi Robert Thank you for your reply. Yes it does seem that it can't be the dac as it provides the other modes.? I also notice that this radio has those ribbons as well, they make me shudder as I have had some trouble with those in other equipment. I have retired out of? radio a few years ago and I have not worked much with SMD. Is there in techniques or tools that may be appropriate? Of course I have used an iron on SMD boards but not on any thing that I have overly worried about the outcome ! Regards Helen VK3RY On Monday, 25 November 2013 8:23 PM, BT Yahoo!?2013 <robert.farey@...> wrote:
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HI Helen ?????????????? many of these problems coming to light are as a result of the lead free solder used in the construction of these modern transceivers. so a dry joint is the most likely cause of a lot of problems with the Icom Ic7000. ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Best Regards Robert G6LLP From: "helen_3ry@..." <helen_3ry@...> To: ic7000@... Sent: Saturday, 23 November 2013, 11:30 Subject: [IC-7000] Hi I am new to this group I have problems with no ssb on tx
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Hi I am new to this group my name is Helen Vk3ry I have lost SSB upper and lower on my rig. I have been able to track the lack of TX down to the 1st IF? my thoughts it may be the processor, the rig is quite happy on am fm Rtty and good on ex. it implies the Dac is ok too,alc indicates very high alc although there is no alc voltage. I sure I am not the only one with this prob? ? ? ?? Any one with similar experience? KInd regards Helen VK3RY 谢谢
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Re: [IC-7000] What is the secret move?
Kent Hufford
开云体育It is not easy. YOU got to be looking at it to see how. ? Squeeze the top and bottom, that don't work squeeze the sides. ? Kent ? From: ic7000@... [mailto:ic7000@...] On Behalf Of J Chaloupka
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 6:01 PM To: icom Subject: [IC-7000] What is the secret move? ? ? I would like to know how the power cord is unplugged from the back of the radio. ? Thanks, WD8QBQ, JIM |
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Re: [IC-7000] What is the secret move?
开云体育There is a release hidden under the black rubber boot.? ?? ? ? ? This message was delivered by flying monkeys!On Nov 30, 2013, at 17:00, J Chaloupka <boltsnutspins@...> wrote:
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Re: [IC-7000] Grounding plus newbie questions.
Bob Brooks
Well said Bill. Grounding everything in the station certainly won't hurt and will add a safety cushion. For example it is probably not a good idea to assume that the ground is actually grounded in a three prong plug. Anybody can install a 3 prong outlet so todays appliances will plug into the wall. That is the first thing I check before setting up a station. Better to be safe than sorry. bb KC1AKV On Saturday, November 30, 2013 5:11 PM, William Kerker wrote:
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Hi Alex,? Welcome to the amateur radio world!? This internet thing is a good location for much information, however not all is good and not all is bad. ?About your ground question. ?I feel it is good to have all equipment in your 'shack' attached to a good ground rod for a couple reasons. ?1. Is SAFETY! ?The chance of a cabinet or piece of equipment in a ham shack having either a high voltage ( any thing over 60 volts could cause shock in a dry shack - not saying it will) or when you do get your license, when transmitting or testing, a thing called RF burn (caused by many things - improperly tuned or installed antenna, a bad antenna connection or a faulty piece of equipment are some). These chances of shock are higher in a ham shack without a good ground than probably anywhere else in the home. ? 2. Almost always everything plays better when connected together with a good ground, both at
home and in a mobile installation. Alex, I have been a ham for over 50 years, so here is a little free advise. ?Antennas are about the most important part of your station. Some will say you can hang a wire out the window and everything will work fine, and maybe it will work for some in some instances, but to get the best performance out of your transceiver, a good well tuned antenna is the best way to go. And grounds are a part of the antenna system in almost all installs. ? The Arrl Handbook is used by not only hams, but by engineers, electronic technicians, Broadcast television and radio stations as a very good reference source. It could be the best $50 bucks you could spend. And as someone else stated, try to find a local amateur radio organization, and see if someone there can 'elmer' you (help get you on the right track) They are almost always willing to help out a new ham.? I think you are
going to love the Icom IC-7000. ?If you decide to get a different base radio at a later date, that unit is one of the best little mobiles around. I love mine! Now get to studying!!! Hope to hear you on the ?air soon. When you get your ticket drop me an email. Best of luck ! ? Bill KM0F Amateurs must be tough Ham Radio Is A 'Contact' Sport? On Nov 29, 2013, at 12:58 PM, "alex.c.lawler@..." <alex.c.lawler@...>
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Re: [IC-7000] Grounding plus newbie questions.
Hi Bill. Thanks a lot for the advise. I will buy the ARRL 2014 when it is released. I love the hobby already. I have been listening to dx for 2 years almost but have only just switched from a comms receiver to a transceiver. The Icom 7000 makes a great receiver on HF. I have yet to try on VHF/UHF. I must admit that there is bad intermodulation around 300/400/500khzs from several local MW power houses but then again I'm not bothered about MW dx and I don't think the 7000 was designed for it primarily anyway. Other than that it is great and I look forward to studying for my license. Cheers Alex
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Re: [IC-7000] Grounding plus newbie questions.
开云体育Hi Alex,? Welcome to the amateur radio world!? This internet thing is a good location for much information, however not all is good and not all is bad. ?About your ground question. ?I feel it is good to have all equipment in your 'shack' attached to a good ground rod for a couple reasons. ?1. Is SAFETY! ?The chance of a cabinet or piece of equipment in a ham shack having either a high voltage ( any thing over 60 volts could cause shock in a dry shack - not saying it will) or when you do get your license, when transmitting or testing, a thing called RF burn (caused by many things - improperly tuned or installed antenna, a bad antenna connection or a faulty piece of equipment are some). These chances of shock are higher in a ham shack without a good ground than probably anywhere else in the home. ? 2. Almost always everything plays better when connected together with a good ground, both at home and in a mobile installation. Alex, I have been a ham for over 50 years, so here is a little free advise. ?Antennas are about the most important part of your station. Some will say you can hang a wire out the window and everything will work fine, and maybe it will work for some in some instances, but to get the best performance out of your transceiver, a good well tuned antenna is the best way to go. And grounds are a part of the antenna system in almost all installs. ? The Arrl Handbook is used by not only hams, but by engineers, electronic technicians, Broadcast television and radio stations as a very good reference source. It could be the best $50 bucks you could spend. And as someone else stated, try to find a local amateur radio organization, and see if someone there can 'elmer' you (help get you on the right track) They are almost always willing to help out a new ham.? I think you are going to love the Icom IC-7000. ?If you decide to get a different base radio at a later date, that unit is one of the best little mobiles around. I love mine! Now get to studying!!! Hope to hear you on the ?air soon. When you get your ticket drop me an email. Best of luck ! ? Bill KM0F Amateurs must be tough Ham Radio Is A 'Contact' Sport? On Nov 29, 2013, at 12:58 PM, "alex.c.lawler@..." <alex.c.lawler@...> wrote:
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Re: Grounding plus newbie questions.
Thanks for all the replies. It makes more sense now and I'm up and running with a PSU supplied in a bundle from the shop. I am from England and plan to get my license in a few months at my local club. Incidentally do any of you use external speakers when using the 7000 as a base station. I've noticed the audio isn't that great. Another thing I've noticed is that there is a lot of intermodulation around 300/400/500 khzs from local MW power houses making receive DX there very difficult. Has anybody else encountered this? I'm using a Wellbrook 1530.
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IC-7000] at home as a base station? - Alex [no call sign yet]Do I have to plug in or ground the two pronged connector when [I use the |
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Re: [IC-7000] Re: Grounding plus newbie questions.
brian mackey
I cannot find it but here is a link to ALL the ham nations episodes ?every Wednesday at 9pm Eastern Thank you, Brian Mackey KC1MAC? Hams don't let hams get stuck on 2 meter repeaters! :) From: Alex Netherton <anetherton@...> Reply-To: <ic7000@...> Date: Saturday, November 30, 2013 at 2:24 PM To: <ic7000@...> Subject: Re: [IC-7000] Re: Grounding plus newbie questions. ?
I wish I had my book about Ham on a budget done, but it is still in the works. You need to get an antenna up, even if not licensed. Get or build an antenna matcher. Plans can be found all over the Internet. If you decide on a resonant antenna, you can build a trap dipole, a fan dipole, or any number of other resonant antennas, such as a Marconi, which can also be built with taps. Grounding is not necessary until you begin to transmit, and even then, if you have a good counterpoise, such as a resonant dipole, you may not need one."BOB HEIL a king in ham has 24 radios and 46 other items that have grounds in his shack and NON are grounded" I would really like to discover how Bob Heil gets away without a ground. Please share with us, as I myself have a shack on the second floor of my house, and RF can be a problem, especially on 17 meters for some reason... Alex Netherton On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Philip <pcsalley@...> wrote:
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Re: [IC-7000] Re: Grounding plus newbie questions.
brian mackey
Hi Alex, Cause is bloody rich! - His antennas are all matched and he probably has lighting arrestors that would stop anything. You can watch the episode on Ham Nation / Twit.tv ?where he makes the statement.. Ill see if I can find it and post the link Thank you, Brian Mackey KC1MAC? Hams don't let hams get stuck on 2 meter repeaters! :) From: Alex Netherton <anetherton@...> Reply-To: <ic7000@...> Date: Saturday, November 30, 2013 at 2:24 PM To: <ic7000@...> Subject: Re: [IC-7000] Re: Grounding plus newbie questions. ?
I wish I had my book about Ham on a budget done, but it is still in the works. You need to get an antenna up, even if not licensed. Get or build an antenna matcher. Plans can be found all over the Internet. If you decide on a resonant antenna, you can build a trap dipole, a fan dipole, or any number of other resonant antennas, such as a Marconi, which can also be built with taps. Grounding is not necessary until you begin to transmit, and even then, if you have a good counterpoise, such as a resonant dipole, you may not need one."BOB HEIL a king in ham has 24 radios and 46 other items that have grounds in his shack and NON are grounded" I would really like to discover how Bob Heil gets away without a ground. Please share with us, as I myself have a shack on the second floor of my house, and RF can be a problem, especially on 17 meters for some reason... Alex Netherton On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Philip <pcsalley@...> wrote:
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Re: [IC-7000] Re: Grounding plus newbie questions.
Alex Netherton
I wish I had my book about Ham on a budget done, but it is still in the works. You need to get an antenna up, even if not licensed. Get or build an antenna matcher. Plans can be found all over the Internet. If you decide on a resonant antenna, you can build a trap dipole, a fan dipole, or any number of other resonant antennas, such as a Marconi, which can also be built with taps. Grounding is not necessary until you begin to transmit, and even then, if you have a good counterpoise, such as a resonant dipole, you may not need one."BOB HEIL a king in ham has 24 radios and 46 other items that have grounds in his shack and NON are grounded" I would really like to discover how Bob Heil gets away without a ground. Please share with us, as I myself have a shack on the second floor of my house, and RF can be a problem, especially on 17 meters for some reason... Alex Netherton On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Philip <pcsalley@...> wrote:
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Re: Grounding plus newbie questions.
开云体育?Do as Simon says, and no, a ground connection is not needed as a receiver.? Just disconnect the antenna when not around to prevent stray lightning damage.? The ground “may” become necessary when transmitting and you will know in that case.? When using a good resonant antenna a ground is not mandatory.? A ground becomes imparitive when using a tuner to operate on frequencies off the natural antenna resonant point.? All this will become clear as you learn the antenna basics.? GL and enjoy, regards, Phil / K4PO ? ? |
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Re: [IC-7000] Re: Grounding plus newbie questions.
开云体育Doing what Gene writes below CAN still invite disaster.? NJ1V (now K5XA) did that here in Oklahoma City years ago and the stroke STILL came in on the coax from the tower(s) 150 and 250 feet away and blew right through the jars to the rebar in the house's slab.? LOTS of melted stuff, even to gear that was disconnected from power lines and antennas.
Best to not have any feedlines even coming in the house. I suggest hooking the feedlines to a ground bus outside the house, or at least disconnecting the feedlines and laying them on the ground AWAY from the house. Telephone lines also seem to be a common entry point to your house for lightning damage. Gets your phones, computers, modems, TVs, satellite receivers, etc. * * * * * * * * * * * * 73 - Mac, K2GKK/5 * * (Since 30 Nov 53) * * k2gkk hotmail com * * Oklahoma City, OK * * USAF & FAA (Ret.) * * * * * * * * * * * * ? ? > To: ic7000@... > From: elcoggins@... > Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 12:42:01 -0500 > Subject: Re: [IC-7000] Re: Grounding plus newbie questions. > > Yes. And in the event of a lightening storm and when not in use, disconnect the antenna(s) from the 7000 and place the ends into an individual clean dry glass jar. Don't put your faith into a blitz bug. > > Gene > KN3ZIP > > > > >Note that diagram omits what many would consider essential items (e.g lightning protection on antenna lines). > > > >Best of luck to you. > > > >73 > >Scott > >W7SLS |