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Re: IC7000 no HF Transmit


 

Right ok

Assuming you work you tell me, 23:00 is 18:00 your end, or we could do a weekend ?

73

Andrew

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On 27 Jan 2025, 23:31, at 23:31, "Tommy Wooten via groups.io" <kf4rwg@...> wrote:
Andrew,
I am in Tallahassee FL. Eastern time zone.
Tomorrow would be better for me. What is a good time for you?
Tommy

On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 6:16?PM Andrew Lenton via groups.io <a=
[email protected]> wrote:

How much current?

It might be better to set up a teams meeting, how far behind are you
in
time, I am GMT

KR

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On 27 Jan 2025, 22:42, at 22:42, "Tommy Wooten via groups.io"
<kf4rwg=
[email protected]> wrote:
Andrew
Yes the power supply amps does peak with the modulation.
I do have a generator. I have used it when setting tx gain and
output
power for vhf/uhf.

Tommy


On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 5:31?PM Andrew Lenton via groups.io <a=
[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Tommy,

Is it still drawing 20 amp from the power supply?

When you are speak into the mic, do you have an audio dig
generator?

KR

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On 27 Jan 2025, 22:09, at 22:09, "Tommy Wooten via groups.io"
<kf4rwg=
[email protected]> wrote:
Andrew,
I have done some more measurements as you recommended. I removed
the
PA
board and attached a connector to the output of L305 separated
from
the
rx/tx relay and HPF. I have attached photos of the input and
output
voltages set at 10M USB with voice into the microphone. These
voltages
are
much less than what you said they should be. The problem must be
up
stream
from the PA FETs.
The oscilloscope was set at 50 millivolt per div in both photos.
The
voltage was lower at the output of L305.!? But measured about 6
watts
on
the external power meter into a dummy load.

The vhf/uhf works well so the driver is working.

Thanks for your help.
Tommy



On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 10:55?AM Andrew Lenton via groups.io <a=
[email protected]> wrote:

This is a very hard radio to work on, as you cannot easily get
to
the
PA
board the way it is mounted and soldered into the pa driver
board



I would remove the PA board, replace L305, for starters while
it
is
out
you can inspect the components one by one.



This unit does not lend itself to test and measurements, as all
you
can do
is prod the rear.



All 12V HF PA stages have an impedance in the milli Ohms 0.4 to
0.6
ohms,
as it draws 20A, or so, the output transformer has to match 0.6
Ohms
to a
50 Ohm, so it needs to step up the voltage.



The problem is it would be nice to lift L306 and put your Watt
meter
in
there, but you have to rip the PA board out then put it back
together
to
make the measurement, so impractical



To protect the PA the is a coupler to control power and to
protect
the PA
against hi SWR, however, if no power is getting past the
coupler
you
will
have full power 24/7



There could be a fault here:





But only you can trace, so measure i/p to L305, you will get a
voltage,
the out put will be higher at 100 Watts 50 Ohm the voltage will
be
70.7V
RMS, so PTP on a scope 200V if you are not getting this on the
O/P
then
move back to the I/P you should get 13.8 V to 40V PTP. I have
one
of
these
in bits working before I box it back together I will make some
measurements
and send back to you. as the PA in not loaded with 50 OHM, the
voltage can
rise too high

You need to set a voltage on Ref or FOR to knock the power back
to
a
few
Watts then you can uses CW and safely trace you signal.





KR



Andrew G8UUG







-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andrew
Lenton
Sent: 26 January 2025 10:00
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ic7000] IC7000 no HF Transmit



This is a very hard radio to work on, as you can not easily get
to
the PA
board the way it is soldered into the pa driver.



I would remove the PA board, replace L305, for starters while
it
is
out
you can inspect the components one by one.



This unit does not lend itself to test and measurements, as all
you
can do
is prod the rear.



All HF PA stages have an impedance in the mOhms .1 .2 ohms as
thet6drsw
20A, the out put transformer has to match .1 of an ohm to 50,
so
it
needs
to step up the voltage.



KR



Andrew



I have a wiring unit, I can make some measurements for you



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On 26 Jan 2025, 01:32, at 01:32, "Tommy Wooten via groups.io" <
kf4rwg@...> wrote:

Bob, Thanks for the encouragement
I have considered all of the suggestions for troubleshooting
the

problem I have with the IC7000. I have tried to trace the HF
RF
path

with an oscilloscope from where the signal comes through the
cable
from

the main board to the PA board. I have traced the signal and
inspect

all components through to the output at ant1. The signal
seems
to

loose its punch where the PA FETs combine into the L305
transformer.

The bias setting of the PA FETs seem to be correct. After the
signal

reaches the rx/rx relay it passes through the selected HPF
where
it

reaches ant1. The resulting signal is only a few milliwatts.
I
have

tried to keep the setting in SSB and I see modulation when
speaking

into the microphone.
I know it is difficult to troubleshoot the issue remotely but
I

appreciate any and all ideas.
Thanks
Tommy. KF4RWG
On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 6:31?PM Bob via groups.io <W4JFABob=
[email protected]> wrote:
Well this is #30 then. That's OK because when the rest of us
have

this
problem we'll appreciate every one of these replies.
Keep on writin' you guys.
Bob W4JFA
On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 4:40?PM Geoff via groups.io <vk3zgw=
[email protected]> wrote:
Forgive me if this has been mentioned before but as this is
the
29th

reply I haven't gone back and read everything.
I always go first to where the effect of a fault is obvious
without

any
ambiguity, in this case the rf output ie Ant 1 connector,
working

back to
eliminate ALL the stages involved, including in this case
the
SO32

jack.
Good luck.
Geoff
VK3ZGW






















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