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Re: Trying to Connect with PPA Participants Close to or Recently Retired

 

PPA - Personal Pension Account


Re: Trying to Connect with PPA Participants Close to or Recently Retired

 

Please contact me via private email. ?Thank you.


Re: Trying to Connect with PPA Participants Close to or Recently Retired

humor_impaired
 

Susan?,

www.wikinvest.com ? ?
Wikinvest
PPA Participant” means a Participant who was a participant in the IBM Personal Pension Plan on December 31, 2007 and was employed as a Regular?...

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www.prudential.com/.../PensAnalyst_Hybridplans.pd...
Prudential Financial
Sep 2, 2006 - IBM Personal Pension Plan that IBM's cash balance plan formula is not ... PPA also protects a participant's accrued benefit earned prior to the?...

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Wikinvest
PPA Participant” means a Participant who was a participant in the IBM Personal Pension Plan on December 31, 2007 and was employed as a Regular?...

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---In ibmpensionissues@..., <tiphareth51@...> wrote :

Please define PPA. ?I have some issues that I would like to share with others.


Re: Trying to Connect with PPA Participants Close to or Recently Retired

 

Please define PPA. ?I have some issues that I would like to share with others.


Re: Word to IBM: Let’s lose the long - term earnings guidance and move on

enoc.chen
 


Could be that the other Don was referring to the reference made by another Don, his hero:



---In ibmpensionissues@..., <no_reply@...> wrote :

mr_quarkwrench says on ibmpension:


"I know this won't make it by the moderators but I ?can't resist:

Especially when they have a ho doing the rowing."


mr_quarkwrench was wrong. It did make it by the moderators. Which ho was he refering to?



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Re: Word to IBM: Let’s lose the long - term earnings guidance and move on

nyfishman
 

mr_quarkwrench says on ibmpension:


"I know this won't make it by the moderators but I ?can't resist:

Especially when they have a ho doing the rowing."


mr_quarkwrench was wrong. It did make it by the moderators. Which ho was he refering to?



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Trying to Connect with PPA Participants Close to or Recently Retired

 

As the subject indicates I am trying to connect with some PPA participants who were NOT first or second choicers but were "supposedly" entitled to the "enhanced annuity" that have recently or are soon about to retire. I have uncovered something that IBM is attempting that I do not believe is supported by the PPA Plan Document as written. I believe it is an "interpretation" issue and am trying to determine if I should pursue legal action to attempt to challenge that interpretation.?

I prefer not to provide all of the details in this open forum. If you fall into the category described please respond and I will provide the details via email. Thank you!



Re: Is meaningful participation in ibmpension group forever declining?

 

I'm not informed enough to have an opinion on that.? But I much prefer a discussion along those lines.? As I have said elsewhere, I think censorship is a slippery slope.? I'd much rather do my own "deletions."? It's really effortless to skip topics I have no interest in or opinions I don't share.?


Re: Is meaningful participation in ibmpension group forever declining?

 

Jack, I think the answer to both of your questions is No. ?However, there is no doubt that the moderators and many of their ardent supporters are very emotional which detracts from the various discussions. ?Further, the moderators often apply their censorship rules in an unbalanced way, blocking posts they don't agree with while allowing posts they do agree with to pass on through, even for topics they categorize as falling outside the scope of the forum. ?And in back and forth discussions, the moderators often block posts that allow them or one of their ardent supporters to have the last word. ?In general, the discussion and interaction is very unbalanced as the moderators exert their bias into almost every discussion. ?This is all very counter to everything we as Americans believe in regarding the freedom to express one's views. ? ??


Re: Is meaningful participation in ibmpension group forever declining?

 

"Aging?"? Should age be a factor in assessing people's contribution?? "Female?"? Is moderators' work beyond the capabilities of women?


Complaints

 

It seems like the right thing to do is to contact the administrator of a forum and have comments removed that you don't like.

But consider this: You may post a comment that others may regard as inappropriate and should be removed.

My suggestion: Use the scroll bar and accept some breakage.??

Censorship is a slippery slope.?
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Jack Butler
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Re: Is meaningful participation in ibmpension group forever declining?

 

I can't get a meaningful discussion started in any of the IBM groups. I have posted about something very insidious that IBM seems to be doing concerning the "Enhanced Annuity" that should be of vital interest to anyone under the PPA plan that is nearing retirement. All I have heard is crickets. Maybe it is just too complicated.


Re: Is meaningful participation in ibmpension group forever declining?

riogrande_swimmer
 

Yes, for sure... it's a waste of time to compose well-researched posts that may conflict withcurrent attitude, values, and beliefs of aging female moderators.I feel there are many sad IBM retirees that sort of feed off each other.
I suspect some have physical or mental health issues that cost a lot to maintain and they probably also had no transferrable skills to a career after the IBM they hate, etc.---In ibmpensionissues@..., <zimowski@...> wrote :

ibmpension group seems to be declining into oblivion.?


Is meaningful participation in ibmpension group forever declining?

 

ibmpension group seems to be declining into oblivion. ?While the initial discussion of de-risking was interesting and valuable (thank you madinpok!), interest quickly died as a large segment of the membership decided to reminisce about the past. ?In an effort to refocus the group, the moderators cut off the historical discussion, which BTW seems reasonable to me since such is not the purpose of the group. ?But then, another group enthusiast reposted a March 24, 2014, with the publish date conveniently deleted, under the guise that the announcement was new news, so that the diehards could repeat everything they said way back when. ?I submitted a couple of posts reminded everyone of the original date of announcement. ? They, of course, were blocked by the moderators. ?This maneuvering is just another instance of how much the moderators and moderator enthusiasts continue to insult the intelligence of mainstream group participants. ?Do the moderators really believe that the participants in this group are so easily manipulated?


Re: more laffs

 

hmmm ... why save if there are not things to look forward to?


PPA Payment Calculations

 

I will be retiring in the November/December time frame this year and have been running PPA estimates. In the past the "Maximum Enhanced Annuity" was usually the accurate number for the monthly PPA amount. Apparently that number is now meaningless. I think it has to do with the low interest rate crediting factor going forward and the age 65 maximum restriction. It looks like now rather than the?"Maximum Enhanced Annuity" being the number it is really just the Prior Plan number plus the settlement. Has anyone that is close to retirement or already retired on the PPA plan gone thru the details of these calculations with the ESC and can provide some insight? I would really like to connect with some folks who have gone thru this recently. Thanks.



Re: more laffs

icarlosdanger
 

Currently, we are witnessing:

1. Women base decisions more on emotion.

2. Men base decisions more on logic.

And that in a nutshell is the difference. Your logical self makes decisions based on rational data, while your emotional self makes decisions based on how you feel about things.

ref:?


---In ibmpensionissues@..., <no_reply@...> wrote :

"We will no longer approve posts that brag about retirement."


ha!


more laffs

slotus_notes
 

"We will no longer approve posts that brag about retirement."


ha!


Re: I had a dream...

blue_guy_revived
 

I find it amusing that the alliance 'organizers' put up with Iggy and her hysterical ranting.

I guess even the alliance is entitled to one fan. I wonder how much it cost them to win Iggy over to their side.


I had a dream...

nsa_snoop
 

Trex and primos finally got a room at some union hotel and got food poisoning.