Jack, I think the answer to both of your questions is No. ?However, there is no doubt that the moderators and many of their ardent supporters are very emotional which detracts from the various discussions. ?Further, the moderators often apply their censorship rules in an unbalanced way, blocking posts they don't agree with while allowing posts they do agree with to pass on through, even for topics they categorize as falling outside the scope of the forum. ?And in back and forth discussions, the moderators often block posts that allow them or one of their ardent supporters to have the last word. ?In general, the discussion and interaction is very unbalanced as the moderators exert their bias into almost every discussion. ?This is all very counter to everything we as Americans believe in regarding the freedom to express one's views. ? ??