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-------- Original message -------- From: Dave <theschemer@...> Date: 3/23/19 11:32 AM (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [homebrewpcbs] Bubble Tank DIY Plans :-) But she did buy it from Sally Beauty Supply. Thanks, Dave On 3/22/2019 7:31 PM, Donald H Locker wrote: > I found Sally Beauty Supply to be a good source for H2O2. I recall the > "volume" rating is a bit more than 3x the concentration, so "30 > Volume" H2O2 is 10% concentration. > > Donald. > -- > *Plain Text* email -- it's an accessibility issue > () no proprietary attachments; no html mail > /\ <http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil.shtml> > > On 2019-03-22 5:09 p.m., Steven Greenfield AE7HD via Groups.Io wrote: >> "Could you explain more on how to make the mix with the copper wire? >> I like the idea of less corrosive fumes." >> >> Cupric chloride is what that sounds like. If you mix hydrochloric >> acid and hydrogen peroxide, then etch copper, you end up with cupric >> chloride. As it gets overloaded with copper, it changes. Simply >> bubbling air through it to add oxygen, or adding a little more H2O2 >> converts it back to cupric chloride suitable for etching again. >> >> James Newton kindly saved a lot of posts from here pertinent to >> making PCBs. From http://techref.massmind.org/techref/pcbetch.htm >> >> >> ????? Hydrochloric acid and Hydrogen Peroxide aka Cupric Chloride >> >> Chuck Knight says: ^ >> <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs/message/28868> >> >> ??? "The recipe was simple. 2:1 ratio of H_2 O_2 ?to HCL. The HCl was >> ??? 20% concentration, in a toilet bowl cleaner called "The Works" that >> ??? I purchased at WalMart for $0.94. The H_2 O_2 ?was also from >> ??? WalMart, from the pharmaceuticals section. Whatever they had... >> >> ??? The etchant works impossibly slow at first...threw in a sacrificial >> ??? bit of copper wire, and let it dissolve all night. Once it turned >> ??? from blue to emerald green, it worked beautifully for 4 boards. Took >> ??? several hours to etch the boards. It did, however, turn into an ugly >> ??? olive green that needed to be refreshed with a capful of H_2 O_2 , >> ??? 3/4 of the way through the process." >> >> Erik Knise advises: "At 20% concentration of HCL and 3% (standard >> over the counter pharmacy) H_2 O_2 ?you should have a ratio of ~1:3 >> by weight (volume is about the same). So you would need 3 times as >> much H_2 O_2 ??to HCL. The board should have etched within a few >> minutes." >> >> *DANGER:*?With 20% HCL (from a pool supply) and 30% H_2 O_2 ?(hard to >> find, try a chemical supply store) mixed 2:1, once a little of the >> copper gets into the solution, the copper will literally foam off the >> board and the etching will be done in a minute! ^ >> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTGZcY7WyYI> >> >> Erik L. Knise's Cupric Chloride Echant calculator >> <http://techref.massmind.org/techref/pcb/etch/CuCl2Calc.htm>?helps >> you design the perfect CuCl2 echant for your needs. >> >> >> -- >> Steven Greenfield AE7HD >> > > |