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Re: [hammond_zone] dont bother reading this WAS Re: top ten prog rock on E4 (UK only)
daz
Oooohh dissent amongst the ranks Eh!! Ignorance is bliss don't they say.
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For a short while at least. Unless you live in a specific place you are hardly likely to know about their particular cultures... but T's right, this is a Hammond list, not a political debate list. Lets all agree on common ground... we are all here because of the Hammond organ. BTW we are NOT an _ignorant_ lot, we just don't air political views on the Hammond list. If you have problems with the Belgians.... take it up with them... not us. BTW T I agree the Beatles are better than the Stones. (Stir, Stir) Daz -----Original Message-----
From: Frankie Deschacht [mailto:musicteacher_99@...] Sent: 14 April 2002 23:40 To: hammond_zone@... Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] dont bother reading this WAS Re: top ten prog rock on E4 (UK only) In message <a9d0bq+jqpb@...>, t402_owner <t402_owner@...> writes uuuh this is getting dangerously close to politics, hardlyThen I suggest you do so. -- Frankie Deschacht Musician and Music Teacher Muzikant en Muziekleraar Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Evenin' all...
daz
Welcome Bruce, (chuckles to self)
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Sorry... sounds like a Monty Python sketch! LOL! Seriously, I have a T202 as well... and I'm in the UK.... something in common already! The 02 part refers to the cabinet style of the instrument, the T200 was the basic model the top of the range being the T500 series. I have an M102 as well, and as you have probably guessed... it has the same cabinet, although somewhat nicer grain to the wood and better finish (due to being older). The rest of my Hammond family consists of an L122 and an X5. Also a collection of Leslies... 120, 125, 145, 760. Can you tell I love Hammonds?? Enjoy your time with us! Your more than welcome. Tell your friends. Daz -----Original Message-----
From: shedlurker [mailto:hammond@...] Sent: 14 April 2002 23:12 To: hammond_zone@... Subject: [hammond_zone] Evenin' all... I don't know if it's the done thing in this group, but I've just signed up and thought maybe a brief introduction was in order. I'm a rank Hammond rookie in the UK, having just had a T202 fall into my lap - not literally fortunately (crikey are these things heavy or what?). I haven't played a note on a keyboard since piano lessons thirty years ago so it's going to be a long journey - wish me luck! I know the T202 is no B or C3, but we've all got to start somewhere right? One quick question - I know the T202 is a T-series (!), but what does the "02" in 202 signify? Cheers, Bruce Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Re: top ten prog rock on E4 (UK only)
daz
Hi T, (ha, sounds like high tea)... never mind...
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What genre would you class Sky... remember them, John Williams, Tristan Fry, Kevin Peek @ co. They did a cracking version of Toccata in Dm (they didn't include the Fugue before anyone starts). And some of the time signatures in their own compos are incredible!! Talk about the drummer having to count... unreal!! Diggin' through my old Lp's I come across a few by Tomita, any one remember him? Firebird etc.... surreal versions of music such as 'Clair de Lune'. Also 'Switched on Bach', my late brother (heart attack victim at 33) loved that album. Oh, and before I forget, a Dave Greenslade classic.... The Pentateuch. I could look at that album story book for ages, the paintings are amazing. Definitely a late night post binge album! Sorry if I bored you all, isn't it amazing how a record can transport you back in time to a certain place or something? Jogging your memory to times otherwise forgotten. Hang on, I'm coming down now.... yep... there's the floor, don't look right... strange sounds... what's that... 'how.....much .... longer..... are .... you .... going.. to ....be .... on ... that.... bloody ..... computer' Oh crap, it's the wife. Better go. LOL! Daz -----Original Message-----
From: t402_owner [mailto:t402_owner@...] Sent: 14 April 2002 22:02 To: hammond_zone@... Subject: [hammond_zone] Re: top ten prog rock on E4 (UK only) Well some might say prog is rock with a lot of breaks in between For others progressive rock (aka adult oriented rock) may have been the ultimate genre of rock music that evolved from late 60's psychedelia movement. In a nutshell prog fused classical, baroque and medieval compositions with storytelling of sagas and great journeys or simply fantastic places or historical events, all backed by dense instrument virtuosity with electronics and powerful firm rock textures alongside. After prog, nothing else matters. Filthy punk murdered rock. t402 |
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Re: [hammond_zone] PROBLEM!!
Chris Clifton
Hi Gandert,
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Have you got schematics for your L-100, download them from www.captain-foldback.com if you need them. From what you describe, the problem will be around V11 a 12AU7 (ECC82 European) or maybe the transistor pre-amp just before it. Check the values of all the resistors around that valve and transistor. You may find that you have burnt one out, it's resistance will be much higher than specified. You may even find a resistor that has visibly burnt out. Chris Clifton There is a theory which states that if anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. Douglas Adams ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gandert De Boo" <bottomline@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 7:05 PM Subject: [hammond_zone] PROBLEM!! Help,things back together I accidently put the power plug of the perc/pre amp unit in the perc.switch input. It fitted perfectly! Then I smelled something and turned everything off. Now I put everything back the right way. It all works, except the percussion. It's not completely dead, but it's very soft and it doesn't decay. It's at the volume when it is already decayed. Harmonics both work and soft makes more soft. What must I do?? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (). Version: 6.0.345 / Virus Database: 193 - Release Date: 09/04/02 |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Small Minds
There are no more Beatles. There are still Rolling Stones. There is still
AC/DC. There is no more Hocus pocus.(Thank God!) What's your rationalization on that? Please keep all the references to "IMHO" out of this. I have yet to see a "HUMBLE" opinion come out of some of the most prolific of the emailer(s). A lot of pompous talk comes out of this Zone and as much as I love the Zone, it irritates me to no end the innuendoes that some braggarts throw around. Off course this is only "IMHO." And... The term "Adult" I use has nothing to do with chronological age. I was referring to the hearts and attitude age. I've heard more real music coming sincerely out of a guy sitting on the street playing his feelings than all those "Prog" groups and their gizmo's. Bottom line is "Labels belong on soup cans. The youth today are not as lame as you make them out to be. How 'bout Johnny Lang? I really wish the pompous folks in the Zone here would stay a bit more open and let a musician feel free enough to experiment. Water seeks it's own level and so will the musicians behind us if we give them chance to do so without putting a "Your Wrecking our music.. boo hoo! The bottom line is, what do you think Bach would have produced had he had access to the electronics we have today? My guess people would have complained that "That Punk" is ruining our safe and secure music we have today? PHF Bob |
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PROBLEM!!
Gandert De Boo
Help,
For adding foldback to my L100 I had to take some plugs out. When putting things back together I accidently put the power plug of the perc/pre amp unit in the perc.switch input. It fitted perfectly! Then I smelled something and turned everything off. Now I put everything back the right way. It all works, except the percussion. It's not completely dead, but it's very soft and it doesn't decay. It's at the volume when it is already decayed. Harmonics both work and soft makes more soft. What must I do?? Any help will be greatly appreciated!! Gandert |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Re: top ten prog rock on E4 (UK only)
Gandert De Boo
I knew what the vocal part was, but I DIDN"T know how to pronounce it in english.
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You're so full of wisdom! How old are you anyway?? ----- Original Message -----
From: t402_owner To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:19 PM Subject: [hammond_zone] Re: top ten prog rock on E4 (UK only) --- In hammond_zone@y..., "Gandert De Boo" <bottomline@w...> wrote: > Thijs it still active in music. He lives in Belgium. I hope you guys know he actually is a flute player. yep Yes it was him that played the flute part in HOCUS POCUS. He also did that strange vocalpart. that's yodelling But the man looks very old, but also very friendly. He's bold and gray. LOL dont expect to stay young forever mate! Such is life HOWEVER you should stick to something very important that you just said that makes everything else absolutely irrelevant - he's friendly! t402 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Deze e-mail is door E-mail VirusScanner van Planet Internet gecontroleerd op virussen. Op staat een verwijzing naar de actuele lijst waar op wordt gecontroleerd. |
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Re: top ten prog rock on E4 (UK only)
t402_owner
can't say I do... :-( mmmm lets type chorale in google's...
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Re: [hammond_zone] Evenin' all...
Dave Merrick
Ahh, The new Trek II impulse speed and warp drive upgrade for your leslie........
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Of course I suppose in the delay line box resistance *is* futile. -ouch- Hiya Welcome, Bruce!! |
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Re: Adult Rock
t402_owner
I'll answer your question with another oxymoron - yes and no LOL!
This is just to say I actually see what you mean. But that IS precisely one of progs achievements! Rock does not have to be necessarily associated with kids banging guitars and making one hell of a racket just to annoy dad and mum. Rock can be and reckoned as a serious Artform and therefore be "suitably" appreciated by a mature audience AS WELL. Actually IMHO thats precisely what I think rock has been missing for the past 20 years or so. Maturity. Maturity that has been far too soon taken over by some selfdenial approach to the genre. We've been idling since then... In the early 90's I thought wow grunge might stir things a bit. It didn't. It even had a shorter life than punk, again IMHO because they (both) lacked maturity and got fabulously rich overnight. Worse than alcohol and amphetamines... Rock needs a comeback and hopefully in a form that would lead to further evolution. The founders are already in their early 60's and one by one we sadly see them depart and yet I dont see nothing new on the horizon... and that scares me the living daylights as being a mere witness of a dying species. Ladies and Gents. Prog rock and jazz fusion were the last truly great revolutions in modern music. I'd hate to thing this is it. The end of the road. Finito. right chaps ... back to that Schoenberg thingy but on 4/4... one two three and... t402 PS oxymoron - a moron on oxygen to see if his brain pops to life once for all? We have a few around here in such desperate need. Sorry silly joke... --- In hammond_zone@y..., zakemo@A... wrote: I really hate seeing "Adult" and "Rock" in the same sentence.Pretty much an oxymoron if ya asked me. OHF Bob |
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Re: Evenin' all...
t402_owner
blend in mate, blend in... :-)
t402 --- In hammond_zone@y..., "Raul de Jalapeno" <raul_de_jalapeno@h...> wrote: Welcome, Bruce!!list. 'cuse me! here I am sure will have fun and learnjust signed > up and thought maybe a brief introduction was in order.things > heavy or what?). I haven't played a note on a keyboard sincejourney - > wish me luck! I know the T202 is no B or C3, but we've all gotto > start somewhere right?Service. |
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Re: top ten prog rock on E4 (UK only)
t402_owner
LOL I have to admit the label "adult oriented rock" sounds something
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out of playboy channel LOL like addicted to love or ZZ's legs but a little fresher if you know what I mean LOL Still labelwise, pundits identify REO or Journey and such likes as RockFM or (and I particularly fancy this one) Corporate Rock (like they all wear suits and ties on stage LOL)! HOWEVER who's crying now has a SU-PERB guitar solo as coda. Paced, very melodic, a mist of sadness and anger fighting back the fade away up to the very last instant. REO (sigh) that brings me back to my wild late teens... I couldn't really fight that feeling anymore hehehe... Cheers t402 --- In hammond_zone@y..., Linda Dachtyl <lindaleed@e...> wrote:
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Re: top ten prog rock on E4 (UK only)
t402_owner
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!
t --- In hammond_zone@y..., Ron Bell <worthogis@s...> wrote: Just let me get a few bottles of Grand Cru into me first, andshave your beard.....lol ;) |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Evenin' all...
Raul de Jalapeno
Welcome, Bruce!!
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You will be educated........we are the Borg....Oh wait, wrong list. 'cuse me! Raul ----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Bell To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Evenin' all... Welcome to the group Bruce!! You have come to the right place, there is a lot of help and info here I am sure will have fun and learn As for the-02 part of the model, it signifies the cabinet style. Cheers, Ronnie B. ---- Original Message ----- From: "shedlurker > I don't know if it's the done thing in this group, but I've just signed > up and thought maybe a brief introduction was in order. > > I'm a rank Hammond rookie in the UK, having just had a T202 > fall into my lap - not literally fortunately (crikey are these things > heavy or what?). I haven't played a note on a keyboard since > piano lessons thirty years ago so it's going to be a long journey - > wish me luck! I know the T202 is no B or C3, but we've all got to > start somewhere right? > > One quick question - I know the T202 is a T-series (!), but what > does the "02" in 202 signify? > > Cheers, > Bruce > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Re: top ten prog rock on E4 (UK only)
Ron Bell
Just let me get a few bottles of Grand Cru into me first, and shave your
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beard.....lol ;) Cheers, Proost, A Votre Sante, Ronnie Ah a kindred spirit! I think we have a long friendship ahead of us |
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Question
Chris Clifton
Hi Drew,
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The start motor isn't actually a series type, but let's start with the synchronous motor. In a synchronous motor, the field windings are arranged so as to produce a rotating magnetic field. the rate of rotation depends on the frequency of the supply current and the number of poles. The armature is a permanent magnet (it could be an electromagnet in a large motor, but we're looking at small motors in Hammonds). When the armature is spun at the same speed as the rotating magnet field it will lock into step with the rotating field an continue to rotate in synchronism with the field, hence "synchronous motor". A synchronous motor can only run at synchronous speed hence the need for a starting motor, the speed of rotation is fixed to the supply frequency and is very stable. Thus a Hammond tone generator driven by a synchronous motor gives accurate and dependable tuning. The start motor is what is known as a "squirrel cage" motor. The conductors in the armature are arranged like those wheels that small pet animals run around in getting nowhere fast. There are a number of conductors along the armature axially and a shorting ring at each end joining all the axial conductors. A rotating magnetic field is generated similar to the synchronous motor, this induces a current in the squirrel cage (there is no direct electrical connection to the armature). reaction between the rotating field of the stator and the magnetic field of the induced current causes the rotor to turn. A squirrel cage motor actually produces it's maximum mechanical power at a speed slightly less than synchronous. Run motors in self starting tone generators L-100, T-100 etc are of this type as are the motors in Leslie speakers. Chris Clifton There is a theory which states that if anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. Douglas Adams ----- Original Message -----
From: "Drew" <dhoelscher@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Help!!! Question:
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Re: top ten prog rock on E4 (UK only)
t402_owner
Ah a kindred spirit! I think we have a long friendship ahead of us
Ron. May I kiss you on the cheek matey? t402 --- In hammond_zone@y..., Ron Bell <worthogis@s...> wrote: AHHHHHh,,,tonewheels!!!! Maybe I'll toast the Leslies with a nice Lambic later :) |
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