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Re: fitting leslie to Hammond C2
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On Sep 25, 2018, at 14:17, Adrian Rose via Groups.Io <madorganplayer@...> wrote:
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Sunday Morning Jam
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It's Sunday morning!
What's everyone's Sunday morning Hammond jam? Here's mine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY0WvsHNa2s |
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Robert Turner
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Love this guy's videos - clearly loves what he's doing! I think his name is Robert Turner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0SoCI6EyH4 |
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Re: XB-2 -- HX3 thoughts, questions
Hi Gesine,
Sorry, for the confusion. There are a few conversations going on in this thread. My midi comment was directed to someone else's post and very vague about the XK3 module and my step up. Luckily, I fixed most of those issues this evening. I am definitely interested in your XB-2 to do the retrofit! I just got an XB-2 on Reverb.com that doesn't have the chip error (yet) but I'm fixing a few other issues with it. I'm trying to do the 'repair the original stuff' with that one. Like you, money is always limited for me. I was first planning to build my own main board to fix the unit with the chip error since I like to do electronics and that would be cheaper but that won't be the same so I might as well go all in and retrofit it. That's what credit cards are for, right? :) I'm hoping to get one more XB-2 that is having issues (or not) for its parts to repair my good one, and to use the body and keyboard assembly to build a frankensynth... I want to put a Behringer Model D in that one. I love tinkering and doing electronic stuff, especially mixing that with programming. That is the beauty of the . Private message me and let me know the details for what you would need to take that XB-2 off your hands. Nick |
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Re: XB-2 -- HX3 thoughts, questions
Hi Nick and all peeps,
OK, I'm a little confused -- I'm not understanding the "midi is not working at the moment....." (and yep, I totally don't know electronics!) -- We've researched, and are comfortable with, the HX3 retrofit stuff -- would be very glad for our XB-2 to go in that direction -- and friends who are into electronics are comfortable with it -- I know zero about Raspberry Pi, Arduino -- nor about other circuit boards -- My impression, from last year spending quite a bit of time poking around online, was that it was NOT trivial to get an XB-2 working again, whose main board/chip had failed in that characteristic way, and that's one reason why people were so excited about the HX3/retrofit stuff. Our XB-2 is **NOT** "repairable" -- CAE Sound told us, everything is in splendid shape EXCEPT the chip/board that very characteristically fails in XB-2s, for which there are no replacements available. so, one can retrofit it, but it's not "repair the original stuff" -- So, I guess I should rephrase things -- we'd like our XB-2 to go to someone who definitely will retrofit with the HX3-XB-2-retrofit kit -- XB-2 retrofit kit, complete?? 789.00 euros * I am one of those "gee, I really want to get an XB-2 whose chip failed, so I can do that retrofit!" people. So I am very interested in your instrument!!! I have looked into the HX3 but I go that route I was going to work on my own mainboard using a Raspberry Pi or an Arduino just for fun. If I fail at what i'm envisioning then I was going to get an HX3. |
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Re: XB-2 -- HX3 thoughts, questions
Hi Craig,
That is a great idea! Unfortunately, midi is not working at the moment. I'm going to try and repair this in phases. First hoping to fix the XB-2 itself, and if aspects of that doesn't work try my own main board that has a midi out which was going to go to my computer for virtual synths. If that just doesn't feel right then I was going to go all in for a HX3. Maybe looking at the XK3 module would be a nice alternative if I can get the midi functioning.
Thanks! Nick |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Digital Hammond XB-2 Owners Manual
开云体育Hi,My Name is Matthias. Which kind of equipment ?do you need? I could offer a Elka x-50 which is close to Korg CX3 concerning the sound. I would give it for free as I have two of them and two real Hammonds. Would like to help. The point is to get it from Austria to you. I would pay half of Shipping! Regards, Matthias? Von meinem iPhone gesendet
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Re: XB-2 -- HX3 thoughts, questions
Assuming the midi output is still fine, why don’t you order an XK3 module.. this saves you all the work of retrofitting the HOAX engine into your XB-2... AND you’ll have a great sounding organ engine that you can use with almost any clone, keyboard, or controller. Or just sell if/when you no longer need it.
Craig |
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Re: XB-2 -- HX3 thoughts, questions
开云体育I built an HX3 kit into my XB-2 and it sounds great. Utilizes all the operating elements of the XB-2. Also have a spare XB-2 with lots of spare cards, keys, power supply I could part from. If there‘s any interest contact me privately.Christoph? Von meinem iPhone gesendet w?hrend ich fuhr, a?, tippte, las und einen Rubik cube l?ste.
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Re: XB-2 -- HX3 thoughts, questions
Hi Gesine,? Thanks, |
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XB-2 -- HX3 thoughts, questions
Hi all,
We are debating what to do with our XB-2 -- whose chip is dead, she's otherwise in nearly-new condition. I bought her around 1993, first time I'd had a brand-new keyboard!? (only time so far!)? I played her for about a year, my hands got disabled (carpal tunnel etc., got awful treatment from workers' comp) and I stopped playing for some years. CAE Sound checked her out a year ago, said she's in awesome shape except! the characteristic chip failure. One possibility is we figure out how to find the money, buy a HX3 retrofit kit -- one of my housemates looked at the installation info on the KeyboardPartner website and said they thought they could do the installation -- and then have the keyboard go to someone -- however, money is definitely an issue!? Another possibility is, we get her to someone who plans to do that retrofit, for themselves. Occasionally we visit friends in the Los Angeles area, there's an active jam-band scene there -- my friend has a Nord Electro 3 (nice in some ways, not in others, and oy, those little lights trying to represent drawbars!) -- so I was thinking, another possibility might be to have the retrofitted keyboard live down there, to share in that scene. (I've met a handful of keyboardists in that scene, they're trying to play B3 type stuff, but haven't played on a B3)(and of course an XB-2/HX3 isn't a B3 either!? but it's closer than many things). I'm fond of her, would love for her to get retrofitted and played!? (not used for parts)? ANYhow!? Lurking behind all this is, I have a stored-since-circa-1992 C3 chop, done by Bill Beers/Keyboard Products, who I would love to have serviced/gotten into good playing shape -- I'm not going to try playing her now before having a good tech check her out, because my B3 had gotten that plastic-degrading thing, she was stored for some years, and Bob Schleicher (who has since retired) told me it's a good thing I didn't try to turn her on.? But that's where I would probably want to put our money. So, questions -- -- is the link below, the place to order HX3/retrofit kits? -- how difficult/annoying/good? is the interface, of a XB-2/HX3-retrofitted keyboard?? are they pretty easy to use, or no?? thoughts? -- has anyone been thinking, gee, I really want to get an XB-2 whose chip failed, so I can do that retrofit! The more I think about this, the more I think it'd be great to have this keyboard go to someone who wants to retrofit her and is able to retrofit her. thanks all!? Gesine? *? XB-2 retrofit kit, complete?? 789.00 euros "MUSE or DRB chip dead? Many, if not most XB-2 suffer from faulty TG chips which are no longer available. Get your dead XB-2 up and running again with our retrofit kit!Complete kit consisting of HX3 mainboard (pre-configured for XB-2 with all licences), preamp board with Leslie output stage, LCD/keyboard driver board and cables makes HX3 installation in (defective) Hammond XB-2 a snap. All functions (except pitchwheel) and preset buttons (8 separate presets for upper and lower manual) of XB-2 and LCD functions are retained, additional features of HX3 are available through menu system, including keyboard split, reverb, leakage adjust, MIDI CC set and base channel. Yields much, much better sound than original XB-2 - just search Youtube for "HX3 organ" for some demos. Please note: Power supply and keyboard of XB-2 should still work, all other circuit boards of XB-2 are discarded anyway. Very easy installation, no soldering required.
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Re: [hammond_zone] Digital Hammond XB-2 Owners Manual
开云体育A friendly warning. This site and others like it get flagged as purveyors of malware, and was just the case. Malwarebytes, a very reputable product instantly shut the connection down. I suggest you proceed at your own risk. I am in the IT world, and spend more than enough time dealing with the aftermath of visiting these sites. The old adage, nothing is free still applies. Then again, maybe it’s nothing.
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On Behalf Of Gesine
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 12:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hammondzone] [hammond_zone] Digital Hammond XB-2 Owners Manual ? Hi all, |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Digital Hammond XB-2 Owners Manual
Hi all,
Another good source for (free) manuals is ManualsLib.com I volunteer with a girls rock camp, they don't have any money for gear, we've been scrounging up entry-level keyboards, and that's how I found ManualsLib.? Sometimes they also have the service manuals. AND, if you have a manual they don't have, you could scan it and contribute it to them! Gesine |
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Re: XB-2 power supply
开云体育Sounds normal to me. Run it all day then reassemble and run it some more. Then send it home! I would leave the 1a fuses. ? Rich Reid 208-861-9263 ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Brand
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 1:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hammondzone] XB-2 power supply ? Cheers Tubby! |
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Re: XB-2 power supply
Cheers Tubby!
Yes, one of these days maybe I'll learn the lesson not to make assumptions with a circuit, and instead just start at the beginning: checking PS voltages.? I came across a bit of advice in an old Allen TC-3 service manual once: "When you hear hoofbeats, don't assume zebras!"? Yet I still seem to do just that from time to time... But so far, so good, with the XB2-to-HX3.? Follow-up question, though... things do get a bit warm, in the power supply: the power transformer is very slightly warm, and the large heatsink across the rectifier and the three voltage regulators is noticeably warm, but not to the point of being at all painful to the touch.? Should I be concerned?? I'm inclined to think that's a heat sink's job, after all - to get warm so the components don't!? But, since I don't know why those fuses blew in the XB2's first life, I'm a little hesitant to just put the lid back on and call it a good job well done. Any thoughts? best regards- Scott |
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Re: XB-2 power supply
开云体育Hi Scott!!!!-----Well thats great news!!!!----back up and running once again-------One big mistake------before you do any "mods" to ?
On 1.8.2018 9:07 pm, Scott Brand wrote:
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Re: XB-2 power supply
--Well, there's nothing new under the sun.? Should've known one of the clever fellows on this list would've already spotted the PS schematic error, in the XB2 manual:
/g/hammondzone/message/82057 :-) |
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Re: XB-2 power supply
Thanks again for your advice, gents.? I should probably clarify at this point that the XB-2 in question has been converted with an HX-3 kit, from Keyboard Partner; but of course the power supply is left intact in such a case.
Since I couldn't find any shorts or components that were significantly out of spec, I went ahead and put in a couple fuses to see what would happen.? Can't get ahold of the precise specs (5 x 20mm, 800 mA, time delay) without going to an online supplier, so I popped in a pair of 1A time-delay fuses of the same size.? The results were interesting... not only does the PS now yield all the correct voltages - it actually runs the HX-3 just fine.? That's what made me wonder if maybe the original problem might've been a short further down the line, i.e. somewhere on one of the original XB2 boards that have since been removed. (Background information: this XB2 came to me DOA - all it would do was light the LCD, but no content on the display, no sound, no MIDI out, nothing else.? The seller told me it had a dead main board, and I'm afraid I just took his word for it and didn't bother to do any testing on the PS before I began the HX-3 conversion.? But I'm fairly certain those fuses were already blown when I got the XB2.) Of course I'll replace those fuses with the exact .8 A type when I get a chance, but since the ones I have in there are pretty close already, I'm beginning to think the power supply is ok after all.? ...Hmm, sorry, I guess I don't really have a specific question here, but I'd of course be interested in any further observations that might occur to anyone. Thanks! Scott |
Christoph