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Re: [hammond_zone] Screw
Ron Bell
The AO-29 in the M series including the M-100's, and the AO-28 in B-3, C-3,
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A-100, RT-3 and the D-100. I posted this earlier, this is detailed instructions on how to adjust it, Happy overdriving, Ron Bell. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Laddie Williams" <laddieray@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Screw Ron.. which organ or speaker amp are you talking about.. Please, I havenever been there and done that. ----- Original Message -----this is the quietest setting, do not turn it more than two turns counterAnd like I have already posted not to much overdrive or you will toast yourV-21 and these are no longer made although I have heard the 100w ferro-fluidmore overdrive.box > about 4 inches by 3 inches. Remove the screws to reveal the volume |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Leslie 122 won't slow down
Nick Renich
Thanks Chris. I already tried swapping the 12AU7's over and nothing changed.
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Still fast only.I will probably have a friend install a basic push button type of switch like on the Leslie Combo pre-amps. Can I use the existing brown wire from the old half moon set-up? ----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Clifton" <chris@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Leslie 122 won't slow down Nick,the suppressor capacitors across the relay contacts has shorted.Hammond organs and Leslie speakers. It is not just the AC line voltage, valveand the Leslie won't slow down. It has fast only. My half moon switches arei would prefer anyway. Any ideas PLEASE? I like fast Leslie , but not allthe time. I play like Jon Lord so need the slow very badly.By the way I playedi had growl before, but this is insane - and i got the info thru' the zone.
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Re: [hammond_zone] C3 percussion
Nick:
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Go Here: Mike Casino ----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Renich To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:41 PM Subject: [hammond_zone] C3 percussion G'day all. Today i'm trying to adjust the organ so the volume does not drop when percussion is engaged. I have the instructions somewhere, but can't find them. I have the cover off the matching transformer, but not sure what to do. From memory i need to de-solder just one wire - but which one PLEASE ? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob
Ron Bell
Acording to a reliable resource about 25 B-3's that he knows of.
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Ronnie ----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Clifton" < Just how rare is a 30 year old Hammond still in the packing crate? |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob
Ron Bell
I am a true Hammond collector, I have collected 10 Hammonds over the last
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few years. So speaking as a collector, I would not pay more than 5,000. The reason for this is ALL hammond collectors are bargain hunters a.k.a. CHEAP!!!! Haha, In all honesty i think 15,000 is even a little over the top, but an acceptable asking price. What the owner should do is ask for offers and see if he gets what he wants, maybe some sort of an auction. Hell put it on Ebay and watch the insanity unfold. Cheers, Ronnie ----- Original Message -----
From: "Laddie Williams" <laddieray@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob , I told him I would not sell it for less than $50,000.00 That a true collector would pay that figure.. the problem would be to locate the true collector. |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Leslie 122 won't slow down
Earthlink-fyrefyter
The #1 cause of 122 Leslie's not slowing down, (speed changing), is a pitted
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switching relay. When the speed is changed, there is a reverse EMF kick to the contact points. After a few years of that, the points pit and start to 'weld' together when operating. To test this, go to slow speed and tap the chassis of the Leslie amplifier. Better still, tap the screw mounted through the top of the chassis which has a rubber grommet around it. This is the speed relay. If you tap it and it does change speeds, either use some VERY fine emery paper, (800 grit or finer), and slightly 'burnish' the points. Then put it back into service and see how well it works. If all is fine, that is the problem. You may want to replace BOTH of the capacitors across the AC mains sockets to the motors as well. These are there to weaken the EMF present on the relay. If they are bad, the spark on the contacts will be worse. Oh yes, make sure to remove the power and let the amp sit for a while and discharge the supply electrolytics. Any sizable residual voltage present, would not make your day a happy one. Also the 12AU7 tube on the left side of the chassis, is the tube used for the relay control. They do go bad and need replacement. DO NOT substitute with a 12AX7, the switch circuit will not function. Bill Ziegler Datasounds, Inc. Check us on the web at www.datasounds.com Let Us Build and Host Your Website ----- Original Message -----
From: "jamesrhampton" <j.r.hampton@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:57 PM Subject: [hammond_zone] Re: Leslie 122 won't slow down Hello, Nick. The 122 supplies a dc voltage which the leslie kit |
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C3 percussion
Nick Renich
G'day all. Today i'm trying to adjust the organ so the volume does not drop when percussion is engaged. I have the instructions somewhere, but can't find them. I have the cover off the matching transformer, but not sure what to do. From memory i need to de-solder just one wire - but which one PLEASE ?
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Re: [hammond_zone] valves
Earthlink-fyrefyter
There is no real truth in the changing of tubes, (valves), every 2-3 years.
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You will merit nothing for the expense. Unless of course the instrument has had very hard use. Many hours a day for the last 30 years. Then you may suspect tubes. Many Lowreys, Hammonds and other such organs have been found playing fine until they die of other causes with all the original tubes still working fine. Power output tubes do take abuse and may need replacement, but as far as the others, save your money. No the Chinese tubes are generally not very good ones. I have replaced nearly 6 sets of 6550's in the last week and a half. ALL Chinese manufactured tubes which looked like brand new ones. ALL had open cathode elements. Bill Ziegler Datasounds, Inc. Check us on the web at www.datasounds.com Let Us Build and Host Your Website ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gandert De Boo" <bottomline@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:05 AM Subject: [hammond_zone] valves Hi,determinationlist is was able to find out that the organ as well as all the tubes were manufactured in 1971. All the tubes are original. This means they are +30 years old. I've always herd that valves need to be replaced about every 2-3v years. So maybe this will be a good moment to change my valves! But will the sound differ from the current sound(How?) And which tubes MUST be replaced and which NOT necesserily? I read a million time not to take the chinise tubes so I won't take them! |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob
Laddie Williams
I think the list price was $2,850.00
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From: mtcasino@... To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob What was the " LIST PRICE " of the B3 when it came out that year? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Laddie Williams To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob Truthfully, I don't know. He has had the B3 in a box for some time and is an aftermarket Hammond/Organ dealer in Orlando, Florida. He has used it to promote his business, but is moving his business. He will probably put it on e-bay, but to sell it for the best realistic price to his advantage. He asked me what I thought it was worth in the market and I told him I was not sure, but that I would ask around. He is a business man who has a good reputation, but runs his business every day.. I am retired, so I have time to ask (stupid) questions and collect answers. I also own two Hammonds and might even buy a third if my wife doesn't put her foot down. I just am interested in what fellow Hammond owners and lovers think the "right person" would pay for a brand new tone-wheel B3S? ----- Original Message ----- From: jlc7184@... To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob Laddie, Where was this found.In a warehouse ???? Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: [hammond_zone] G-100 voices
Laddie Williams
Carlo,
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Don't forget the G-100 was really suposed to have a PR ? and not a Leslie. ----- Original Message -----
From: Carlo Pietroniro To: Hammond Zone Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: [hammond_zone] G-100 voices I'm pretty sure my G-100 doesn't work the same way as other Hammonds do, with their drawbars. I mean, my reeds sound like reeds. The strings sound like strings. The celestes sound like celestes, and an 8-foot flute sounds notably different from an 8-foot principal. I have the following pitches: 16....8....4....2 2/3....2....1 3/5....1 1/3....1, but with the super and sub couplers, I can get pitches that Hammonds with drawbars can't. I can get the 5 1/3, which is the 2nd brown drawbar, but I can also get the following: 32....10 2/3....3 1/5....2/3....and even 1/2!!! Imagine that, I can get 32-foot pitches on the manuals, but who would want that anyway?!? So in every way, the G-100 is (in my eyes), the ultimate Hammond. Mind you, because of the nature of this organ, I don't think I'll be using the fast speed (tremolo) on the Leslie too often. carlo Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob
Laddie Williams
Yup!
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From: daz To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:05 PM Subject: RE: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob This can be answered in one word. GREED!!! Daz -----Original Message----- From: jlc7184@... [mailto:jlc7184@...] Sent: 06 March 2002 02:47 To: hammond_zone@... Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob Here's the 64 thousand dollar question. HOW could anyone have such a sweet piece and NOT PLAY IT. jeff Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Tonewheel generators
Laddie Williams
Yes, I am interested.. want to incorporate in Florida
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From: mtcasino@... To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Tonewheel generators Laddie: This should have read : "All interested members " But to your question any member of this group who ventures inti this project no matter what the outcome should at least wind up with a working "Halapieno Tone Wheel Generator" ( HPTWG ) Of course if that sounds good to Randy. mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Laddie Williams To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Tonewheel generators This is an interesting idea, but what is your rationale? ----- Original Message ----- From: mtcasino@... To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Tonewheel generators All members should become share holders and agree that the minimum number of units built should equil the number of shareholders. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Laddie Williams To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Tonewheel generators It really might be fun to make tone-wheel systems, but it would seem that it should be a business with the members as stockholders. Whatever, there will come some "ownership." Because there are potentially more who would be interested, it is adviseable to create a corporation. It is not too expensive to do this in Florida. It is a "corporate friendly" state. I don't see why the entire system could not be laser driven in its basic design. ----- Original Message ----- From: G6019LPOP@... To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Tonewheel generators The wheels are machined as are the gears,brass hubs and steel shafts.The bakelite gears look to be pressed or stamped,but may also be machined for concentricity.The dividers are stamped out in one piece as are the horizontal supports with all the alignment nitches.the bushings are Oillite Bronze and are turned parts. All can be duplicated with the right tooling but the cost would be up there. Would it be worth it?HECK YES! Please respond Imight be interested in partisipating I'm a machinist,toolmaker by trade. The Old Guy G6019L@... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob
Chris Clifton
Thinking about it, to get the best price, perhaps it should go through one
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of the big auction houses. You know the type of place that will sell the Van Gogh you find when clearing out Granny's loft. If you're thinking $50,000 possibly $100,000 you're not going to put it on eBay!! Just how rare is a 30 year old Hammond still in the packing crate? Chris Clifton There is a theory which states that if anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. Douglas Adams ----- Original Message -----
From: "Laddie Williams" <laddieray@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:39 AM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob Yes, KEI has it... it is no secret. The box is there for viewing rightin the store. As I said, he (Jim) is moving and would now like to sell it, but for the best possible price. He asked me about price and I told him, and also told him I would try to get an average figure. I find it intersting with all our proximity, that no one will venture a figure. For something for you all to jump on, I told him I would not sell it for less than $50,000.00 That a true collector would pay that figure.. the problem would be to locate the true collector. I also told him that he would have to send a tech with it to unpack it and carefully check it out..add gradual power, look for smoke, etc. But, for that kind of money he could afford to do that. Two other people have told me my figure is too low and it could go for $100,000.00 Now what do you think??? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (). Version: 6.0.330 / Virus Database: 184 - Release Date: 01/03/02 |
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Re: [hammond_zone] tonewheel resurrection update
In a message dated 3/6/02 11:07:00 PM Central Standard Time,
raul_de_jalapeno@... writes: The place of which you speak is the "Bar-D Chuckwagon" eight miles north ofYES that's it! We had a great time there! Thanks for the invite too, pardner! George |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Screw
Laddie Williams
Ron.. which organ or speaker amp are you talking about.. Please, I have never been there and done that.
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From: Ron Bell To: hammond_zone@... Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Screw You dont have to remove the screws, just the little round plug. It is a variabl capacitor not a volume controll, turn it all the way clockwise, this is the quietest setting, do not turn it more than two turns counter clockwise. If you screw it fight out it is a big pain to get it back in. And like I have already posted not to much overdrive or you will toast your V-21 and these are no longer made although I have heard the 100w ferro-fluid driver from Ham-Suz is a good replacement and can stand up to a little more overdrive. Cheers Ronnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Renich" <nrenich@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Screw > Mounted on the centre of the pre-amp is a small rectangular aluminium box > about 4 inches by 3 inches. Remove the screws to reveal the volume control. > At the top is a small slotted screw which you turn left to increase > distortion or right to decrease it. Takes about 1 minute and the organ > sounds like heaven. Actually it already sounded like heaven. > ----- Original Message ----- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Tonewheel generators
In a message dated 3/6/02 8:28:25 PM Central Standard Time,
raul_de_jalapeno@... writes: In fact, I firmly believe, with all my heart, that if all the members ofAMEN brother! <<clap clap clap clap clap!!!!>> George |
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Re: A B3 in the Original Factory container...
scalaqna
You know what works? A Bucket of Warm water and a 1/4 cup of Laundry
detergent... just keep a towel handy to wipe up afterwards.. The finish on Hammonds are unstoppable! You may also want to try Murphy's Oil Soap afterwards to remove any residual stuff... I don't think you will have to worry about the water seeping into the finish. As I said before.. They didn't skimp on the finish at Hammond Organ Company... I have removed tougher things from the finish with "Goof Off". I was suprised to find out that it removed accumulated gunk and paint splatter, but didn't affect the finish what so ever! Old English sells a red oil that is good for covering scratches and polishing the finish on these guys (or gals if you prefer)... The red oil is a nice close match to the finish... I think you will be pleased! I got an organ that was not only covered in TONS of nicotine/tar, but candle wax, spilled beer, soda, paint splatter, etc... Fortunately, this 1958 C3 only cost me $50, and it screams.. It was worth the work... Brian --- In hammond_zone@y..., "Laddie Williams" <laddieray@h...> wrote: You stole it... have a ball..container... worth...I asked what the group thought(a)B3 in the original box was and date. ioriginalrecently bought a b3/pr40 in as near mint as possible, all tubes although ithammond. it was delivered on jan 14, 1964 and never serviced, remove (anywas protected with a layer of nicotine i am still trying to 10% of thesuggestions from the zone would be appreciated). i paid within coast timeoriginal invoice (3K) and wouldn't sell it for twice that...tg isbut do22 seconds!!! your a minimum of 5k up to 10k to the right person. theyourself a favor, make a deal and get it for yourself (and save originalstarted thebox!). these things have last for 30+ years and you haven't clock yet. mike |
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Re: [hammond_zone]Re:Tonewheel generators
Randall Bush
Ron,
First, your point about dendrite build up is well taken. That can be mitigated with more modern plating or powder coating. Grounding between the parts is extremely important. However, as I was explaining to The Old Guy, the majority of crosstalk you get now is not from the generator, but from all the non-terminated TW outputs feeding the tightly woven wiring harness. If you make the generator of a LESS conductive material, you will increase crosstalk. The steel plates act as a magnetic shield between the tonewheel cavities. Make these out of a non-ferreous material, and we'll have crosstalk between the TWG coils. Randy From: Ron Bell <worthogis@...> _________________________________________________________________ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. |
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