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Re: [hammond_zone] BBC Radio 4

 

Legend has it that it was perfromed on an M-100 series - it would be a tribute for the spinets
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From: "tonewheeldude" <darren@...>
Reply-To: hammond_zone@...
To: hammond_zone@...
Subject: [hammond_zone] BBC Radio 4
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:41:11 -0000

I need a hand Guys and Girls,

Alan Hall (BBC Radio 4) just called. He has a 20 minute program
going out at the end of March about The Hammond Organ and the
Song "A Whiter Shade of Pale". Gary Brooker will be on (pity Matthew
Fisher wont be) Alan asked me to explain what it is about the
Hammond Organ- to quote- 'that swirling sound' that makes this track
so special. Here is the catch..I have two to three minutes to do it
in.

If you have any ideas how to concisely define the Hammond Sound in
the context of "A Whiter Shade Of Pale" I would be realy gratefull
of any ideas. I don't think I am the best choice realy, but I have a
few ideas.

Darren



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Re: [hammond_zone] BBC Radio 4

 

Right on Daz,

fame, and your own spot on "today", beckons!

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I need a hand Guys and Girls,<BR>
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Alan Hall (BBC Radio 4) just called. He has a 20
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going out at the end of March about The Hammond Organ
and the <BR>
Song "A Whiter Shade of Pale". Gary Brooker
will be on (pity Matthew <BR>
Fisher wont be) Alan asked me to explain what it is
about the <BR>
Hammond Organ- to quote- 'that swirling sound' that
makes this track <BR>
so special. Here is the catch..I have two to three
minutes to do it <BR>
in.<BR>
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If you have any ideas how to concisely define the
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would be realy gratefull <BR>
of any ideas. I don't think I am the best choice
realy, but I have a <BR>
few ideas.<BR>
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BBC Radio 4

 

I need a hand Guys and Girls,

Alan Hall (BBC Radio 4) just called. He has a 20 minute program
going out at the end of March about The Hammond Organ and the
Song "A Whiter Shade of Pale". Gary Brooker will be on (pity Matthew
Fisher wont be) Alan asked me to explain what it is about the
Hammond Organ- to quote- 'that swirling sound' that makes this track
so special. Here is the catch..I have two to three minutes to do it
in.

If you have any ideas how to concisely define the Hammond Sound in
the context of "A Whiter Shade Of Pale" I would be realy gratefull
of any ideas. I don't think I am the best choice realy, but I have a
few ideas.

Darren


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Cheers,

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Re: [hammond_zone] hooking up a-100 to 47leslie(ron)

Ron Bell
 

Hi Jeff,
I know you have a 26-1 kit now, but do you have the 5 pin connector to go
with it? If you do here is how to hook it up. I will tell you the pin
numbers as well as the wire colors of the 5 pin incase you have to make one
up.

The 5 pin connector is the part that gets wired to the A-100.
Mount the 26-1 kit on the inside right of the A-100 cabinet, it is close to
the AC and the AO-39 plus it is the only place that has enough room:)

Cut the black and green wires leading from the AO-39 amp to the speakers
some where in the middle.(somewhere so that the wires from the 5 pin console
connector will reach.)

Splice the black wire leading to pin 1 with the black wire from the speaker
and the black wire from the amp. Use a wire nut to join them, a little
solder would not hurt either.

Solder the gray wire leading to pin 2 to AC.( the best place to get the AC
is under the metal shielding on the far right of the AO-28, remove the two
screws and you will see a blue and gray terminal)

Hook the green wire leading to pin 3 to the green wire leading to the
speaker.Use a wire nut.

Solder the blue wire leading to pin 4 to other half of AC.

Hook the red wire leading to pin 5 to the green wire leading to the AO-39
amp. Use a wire nut.

I almost forgot, there are two ways to feed the wires from the switches to
the back of the organ. The first way is to strip the wires back on both the
switches and twist them together so both wires or attached. Get a coat
hanger and straighten it out, put a small bend at the end so you can use it
to fish the wires through.
If you look at the front left of the organ under the manuals, you will see
a gap about 1/4 inch or so with a strip of felt that runs the length of the
organ. Feed the wires through the gap, they will have to go 6 or 7 inches in
before you can see them from the rear. Grab them with the
coathanger-fish-thing from the back, watching out for the oiling threads on
the start motor, and thats it. It can be a pain but they will go through.
The second way is to lift the manuals, but try the fish thing first it is a
lot less work.
Use some plastic zip ties to keep all the wires neat and tidy and you are
done!!
Cheers,
Ron Bell.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff
Ok, I got all the things i need to do the job,maybe alittle more
confidence
might help.Anyway,anyone care to give me the short course on installing
this
kit onto my a-100.I plan on coming off of the AO-39 as Ron has suggested.


Thanks for the assistance.........Jeff


Re: Quatermass band

ronbell145
 

I copied this from the Gibralter encyclopedia of prog rock. I have
never heard of them before but it is definatley on "to get" list now.
Here is the link to the encyclopedia,


Power trio of keyboard, bass and drums. Straddling the line between
hard rock and prog, there's a little something here to appease fans
of both styles. Keyboards apparently just piano and organ, with the
latter being especially hot-wired to make the keyboardists' style
resemble Frumpy keyboardist Jean-Jacques Kravetz, or perhaps Dave
Stewart at his most maniacal (see "Dreams Wide Awake" for an
example). He can lash out at his organ with a recklessness that puts
Emerson to shame, listen to the solo on "Post War, Saturday Echo" if
you don't believe me. Bass player John Gustafson (pre-Roxy Music)
sings in a uncontrolled, manic voice that can often sound gut-
wrenching. A couple of tracks (the ballad "Good Lord Knows" and the
lengthy jam-orientated "Laughin' Tackle" include massed strings. --
Mike Ohman
Heavy prog. Features Peter Robinson, later of Brand X. Robinson's
organ is predominant instrument.
Just a snippet about Quatermass, a band I just had cause to look up:
it may amuse GEPR users to know that bassist John (then "Johnny")
Gustafson began his career in a sub-Beatles, matching suits-and-ties
type beat "combo" called The Big Three. There were, indeed, three
of 'em - clearly trios were his thing. -- Roger Thomas


Cheers,
Ron Bell.


Re: [hammond_zone] hooking up a-100 to 47leslie(ron)

 

Ok, I got all the things i need to do the job,maybe alittle more confidence
might help.Anyway,anyone care to give me the short course on installing this
kit onto my a-100.I plan on coming off of the AO-39 as Ron has suggested.


Thanks for the assistance.........Jeff


Re: [hammond_zone] ss relais

Michael Casino
 

Be careful with the solid state relays.
Not all SS Relays are the same.
They come in a variety of flavors.
The control voltages can be from 5 vdc to 48 vdc
Or 24 vac thru 240 vac
You have to read the specifications carefully.

In any case they only turn on or off the output. SPST
They do not act like the relay in the leslie tube amplifier. SPDT

The unit you saw at golf is specialy constructed.
This is why he can get that price.

Mike Casino

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gandert De Boo" <bottomline@...>
To: <hammond_zone@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] ss relais


Chris,

After the following story you will understand that i weant everything the
hard way


i have now a leslie 125, which is converted from 110v to 220v. the motors
run on 117V. But the relais switching is still 110v. My ideal is to be able
to use the 125 and 760 at the same time. So i thought i should buy a relais
for the 760 that switches on 110v. but the voltage in the 760 is 234v. So i
need a relay that will switch beteen 234v with 110v.
Then i saw the ss relais. No click!! Ideal! I am thinking of getting 2.
One for the 125 also. But now you are saying that my 760 already has a ss
relay? You also said that I can't operate it with the kit from the leslie
125.
Since i want to use both leslies(not nessecerely at the same time),
rewiring the 125 kit wouldn't be such a good idea. i was more thinking to
connect the 760 AC to the 125 kit. Switching will also be possible with that
ss relais. Audio can be taken directly from the speakeroutput if I
understand right. But then the 30v problem appears.
And off course the broken amp. But i'm going to ask a friend of mine to
borrow his multimeter. That way i can measure some values.

I know it is the hard way, but in the end i'll be glad when it works!
Thanks,

Gandert
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Clifton
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] ss relais


The standard speed switching on your 760 is in effect solid state
relays.
The running current of the two fast motors together would be about 1/4
amp,
the starting surge would be higher but shouldn't trouble a 25 amp relay.


Chris Clifton

There is a theory which states that if anyone discovers exactly what the
Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be
replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. Douglas Adams

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gandert De Boo" <bottomline@...>
To: <hammond_zone@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 6:33 PM
Subject: [hammond_zone] ss relais


> Hello,
>
> I found a company in Holland that sells solidstate relais. These don't
give a click when you switch. One thing they cost about 35 dollar. I saw
on
GOFF the same thing for 50 dollars, or are these special made for
leslies?
>
> The ones I can get in Holland do have the right voltages and can
handle 25
amperes.
>
> Gandert
>
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Quatermass band

 

Hi from Italy,

I've just finished to listen a great prog work, dated 1970. It's performed by Quatermass from the omonimous album.
Do you know this album? Someone else of you heared it? It's superb! The Hammond sound and tecnique are amazing. I think that it should be considered a prog masterpiece. If you haven't got it...buy or copy it! This is a must-have for the Hammond army!! :)
What a Hammond hell there...ciao Ale

Ouch! the organist was Peter Robinson.

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Re: [hammond_zone] Another proud parent

Laddie Williams
 

Some people have all the luck!!

----- Original Message -----
From: Frank Stroupe
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 4:40 PM
Subject: [hammond_zone] Another proud parent


Add another proud parent of a tonewheel organ. I bought a
beautiful M-147 last night. Wasn't positive if I was going to buy it until
I walked on the front porch of the previous owner. I stood there listening
to him play it for a few minutes, and that's all I needed. The case is in
perfect condition, haven't found a flaw. The Leslie 120 that came with it
also is in beautiful condition. The half-moon switches aren't even
scratched. The top of the bench was cleaned with something that it
shouldn't have, and took some of the lacquer off of it. It plays well,
though the buss bars are kind of dirty.

He didn't really want to part with it, though the A-102 and Model 47
Leslie he recently purchased will ease his sorrow.

Now just to learn how to play it.

Frank Stroupe
Myrtle, MS


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Another proud parent

Frank Stroupe
 

Add another proud parent of a tonewheel organ. I bought a
beautiful M-147 last night. Wasn't positive if I was going to buy it until
I walked on the front porch of the previous owner. I stood there listening
to him play it for a few minutes, and that's all I needed. The case is in
perfect condition, haven't found a flaw. The Leslie 120 that came with it
also is in beautiful condition. The half-moon switches aren't even
scratched. The top of the bench was cleaned with something that it
shouldn't have, and took some of the lacquer off of it. It plays well,
though the buss bars are kind of dirty.

He didn't really want to part with it, though the A-102 and Model 47
Leslie he recently purchased will ease his sorrow.

Now just to learn how to play it.

Frank Stroupe
Myrtle, MS


Re: [hammond_zone] CV and two tone cabiniets

 

I agree with Lyle. I'm very familier with CV/BVs and 900.00 bucks is a stretch even if everything works...Eddie


From: felix-at-home@...
Reply-To: hammond_zone@...
To: hammond_zone@...
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] CV and two tone cabiniets
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 14:52:52 -0600

Hi Brian,

Don't offer him very much for the lot, you don't know what is wrong with
any of the equipment and it all may only be a source of parts. If the
organ and TC's are worth so much to him, why is he storing them in a
shed? As a point of info, a very good friend just bought an excellent B3
in great working order that included a PR40 for less than $2000.00. That
was the retail price. I would have to look at the equipment in a warmed
up situation before I would offer anything and at that point, I may not
be willing to pay more than $400.00. And, that would be in working
condition with everything there and not poorly cared for. I would be
very cautious and I am a Hammond Master Tech who knows what is going on.

Lyle


On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 15:15:09 -0500 "Brian Williams"
<brotherbrianwilliams@...> writes:

Hey everyone I just found a hammond cv with two tone cabinets. The
organ
itself is in excellent condition other than a couple water marks on
the top
from plants.

The one tone cabinet is a pr-40 and the other is a tall tone
cabinet. I
have never saw it before so I wouldn't know what it is. I know
enough that
it is not a 31h Leslie so does anyone know what kind of tone cabinet
this
is???

The man had it out in his shedd and we just had a huge snow storm so
it was
like ice out there. The tone generator fired but no sound from the
organ.
I thought it was just too cold out for it to work

My question to all you zoners is how much is this thing worth???
The man
said he would take $900 for it. I am a college student looking for
some
extra money so I would want to sell it when I bought it. DO you
think this
is a good deal and is it worth it???

appreciate your response

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Re: [hammond_zone] Another proud parent

 

Go for it Frank !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm learning to play myself.Even the
kids are getting in on it.


Jeff


Re: [hammond_zone] CV and two tone cabiniets

Ron Bell
 

Hi Brian, where are you located? If you are planning on buying this organ
and then turning around and selling it for a profit, it aint gonna fly.$900
is a little steep for a CV that might not work or even for a working one. If
the generator fired up it should have worked in the cold, could be a simple
thing like a tube or an amp that needs to be rebuilt, who knows. Make a low
offer 3 or 4 hundred, see what happens.

Cheers,
Ron Bell.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Williams" <brotherbrianwilliams@...>
To: <hammond_zone@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 12:15 PM
Subject: [hammond_zone] CV and two tone cabiniets



Hey everyone I just found a hammond cv with two tone cabinets. The organ
itself is in excellent condition other than a couple water marks on the
top
from plants.

The one tone cabinet is a pr-40 and the other is a tall tone cabinet. I
have never saw it before so I wouldn't know what it is. I know enough
that
it is not a 31h Leslie so does anyone know what kind of tone cabinet this
is???

The man had it out in his shedd and we just had a huge snow storm so it
was
like ice out there. The tone generator fired but no sound from the organ.
I thought it was just too cold out for it to work

My question to all you zoners is how much is this thing worth??? The man
said he would take $900 for it. I am a college student looking for some
extra money so I would want to sell it when I bought it. DO you think
this
is a good deal and is it worth it???

appreciate your response

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Re: [hammond_zone] BILLY COBHAM "ART OF 3"

 

Hey man where's Garizia ???


Re: [hammond_zone] CV and two tone cabiniets

 

Hi Brian,

Don't offer him very much for the lot, you don't know what is wrong with
any of the equipment and it all may only be a source of parts. If the
organ and TC's are worth so much to him, why is he storing them in a
shed? As a point of info, a very good friend just bought an excellent B3
in great working order that included a PR40 for less than $2000.00. That
was the retail price. I would have to look at the equipment in a warmed
up situation before I would offer anything and at that point, I may not
be willing to pay more than $400.00. And, that would be in working
condition with everything there and not poorly cared for. I would be
very cautious and I am a Hammond Master Tech who knows what is going on.

Lyle


On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 15:15:09 -0500 "Brian Williams"
<brotherbrianwilliams@...> writes:

Hey everyone I just found a hammond cv with two tone cabinets. The
organ
itself is in excellent condition other than a couple water marks on
the top
from plants.

The one tone cabinet is a pr-40 and the other is a tall tone
cabinet. I
have never saw it before so I wouldn't know what it is. I know
enough that
it is not a 31h Leslie so does anyone know what kind of tone cabinet
this
is???

The man had it out in his shedd and we just had a huge snow storm so
it was
like ice out there. The tone generator fired but no sound from the
organ.
I thought it was just too cold out for it to work

My question to all you zoners is how much is this thing worth???
The man
said he would take $900 for it. I am a college student looking for
some
extra money so I would want to sell it when I bought it. DO you
think this
is a good deal and is it worth it???

appreciate your response

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Re: [hammond_zone] [hammond groups]sticky keys

 

I don't think i'll be sniffing it any time soon.Thanks for the warning though.

jeff


Re: [hammond_zone] CV and two tone cabiniets

Brian Williams
 

Raul,
your description is accurate. It does have a metal grille on top and it does have reverb as when I let go of the Start/run switch I heard that reverb sound. But the thing never did play. I noticed that the keys on that thing were nicer than a b3's keys. Made of heavy duty plastic. Thanks Raul

Brian


From: "Randall Bush" <raul_de_jalapeno@...>
Reply-To: hammond_zone@...
To: hammond_zone@...
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] CV and two tone cabiniets
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 13:28:09 -0700

Brian:
The tone cabinet is probably a D-20 or DR-20. It's tall and narrow with a
grille on the top and louvers halfway up on one side. The DR has reverb. My
1948 CV came with a DR-20 when it was new.

Raul


From: "Brian Williams" <brotherbrianwilliams@...>
Reply-To: hammond_zone@...
To: hammond_zone@...
Subject: [hammond_zone] CV and two tone cabiniets
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 15:15:09 -0500


Hey everyone I just found a hammond cv with two tone cabinets. The organ
itself is in excellent condition other than a couple water marks on the
top
from plants.

The one tone cabinet is a pr-40 and the other is a tall tone cabinet. I
have never saw it before so I wouldn't know what it is. I know enough
that
it is not a 31h Leslie so does anyone know what kind of tone cabinet this
is???

The man had it out in his shedd and we just had a huge snow storm so it
was
like ice out there. The tone generator fired but no sound from the
organ.
I thought it was just too cold out for it to work

My question to all you zoners is how much is this thing worth??? The man
said he would take $900 for it. I am a college student looking for some
extra money so I would want to sell it when I bought it. DO you think
this
is a good deal and is it worth it???

appreciate your response

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Re: [hammond_zone] CV and two tone cabiniets

Randall Bush
 

Brian:
The tone cabinet is probably a D-20 or DR-20. It's tall and narrow with a grille on the top and louvers halfway up on one side. The DR has reverb. My 1948 CV came with a DR-20 when it was new.

Raul


From: "Brian Williams" <brotherbrianwilliams@...>
Reply-To: hammond_zone@...
To: hammond_zone@...
Subject: [hammond_zone] CV and two tone cabiniets
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 15:15:09 -0500


Hey everyone I just found a hammond cv with two tone cabinets. The organ
itself is in excellent condition other than a couple water marks on the top
from plants.

The one tone cabinet is a pr-40 and the other is a tall tone cabinet. I
have never saw it before so I wouldn't know what it is. I know enough that
it is not a 31h Leslie so does anyone know what kind of tone cabinet this
is???

The man had it out in his shedd and we just had a huge snow storm so it was
like ice out there. The tone generator fired but no sound from the organ.
I thought it was just too cold out for it to work

My question to all you zoners is how much is this thing worth??? The man
said he would take $900 for it. I am a college student looking for some
extra money so I would want to sell it when I bought it. DO you think this
is a good deal and is it worth it???

appreciate your response

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Re: [hammond_zone] ss relais

Gandert De Boo
 

Chris,

After the following story you will understand that i weant everything the hard way


i have now a leslie 125, which is converted from 110v to 220v. the motors run on 117V. But the relais switching is still 110v. My ideal is to be able to use the 125 and 760 at the same time. So i thought i should buy a relais for the 760 that switches on 110v. but the voltage in the 760 is 234v. So i need a relay that will switch beteen 234v with 110v.
Then i saw the ss relais. No click!! Ideal! I am thinking of getting 2. One for the 125 also. But now you are saying that my 760 already has a ss relay? You also said that I can't operate it with the kit from the leslie 125.
Since i want to use both leslies(not nessecerely at the same time), rewiring the 125 kit wouldn't be such a good idea. i was more thinking to connect the 760 AC to the 125 kit. Switching will also be possible with that ss relais. Audio can be taken directly from the speakeroutput if I understand right. But then the 30v problem appears.
And off course the broken amp. But i'm going to ask a friend of mine to borrow his multimeter. That way i can measure some values.

I know it is the hard way, but in the end i'll be glad when it works!
Thanks,

Gandert

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Clifton
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] ss relais


The standard speed switching on your 760 is in effect solid state relays.
The running current of the two fast motors together would be about 1/4 amp,
the starting surge would be higher but shouldn't trouble a 25 amp relay.


Chris Clifton

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From: "Gandert De Boo" <bottomline@...>
To: <hammond_zone@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 6:33 PM
Subject: [hammond_zone] ss relais


> Hello,
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> I found a company in Holland that sells solidstate relais. These don't
give a click when you switch. One thing they cost about 35 dollar. I saw on
GOFF the same thing for 50 dollars, or are these special made for leslies?
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> The ones I can get in Holland do have the right voltages and can handle 25
amperes.
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