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Re: [hammond_zone] Leslie speaker question

Ken & Dianne Godfrey
 

Big G,

Or, you can leave your DXR20 hooked up to the A (to provide B+ voltage), and
ADD the Leslie of your choice, and select either or both with a classic
half-moon Echo switch!

BCV-KG

-----Original Message-----
From: Raul de Jalapeno [mailto:raul_de_jalapeno@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:41 PM
To: hammond_zone@...
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Leslie speaker question


George,
You got it. Leslies come with different cable types (6, 9, 11
pin), depending on how they are designed. Some of the design
considerations are: pre-amp level connection from the
console/speaker level connection from the console, availability
of B+ feed for the console, inclusion of a reverb channel, etc.
and several others. Goff, Speakeasy and a host of others carry
the adapter kits to make your A match the Leslie you choose. Best
to run your choice by the group first, since folks like Chris
Clifton, Steve Hayes and others can give you the upshot on what
adapters are available, etc. Now, as regards "B+": That's the
high voltage that's needed to operate the vacuum tube elements in
the preamp. For consoles like your A, my CV or Ken Godfrey's BCV,
the B+ is supplied by the tone cabinet's power amplifier. In my
C-3, the power supply components are built into the pre-amp. So
if you set aside your tone cabinet for a Leslie, we have to
supply this voltage (+200, to be exact) from another source. It
can come from SOME Leslies, or the add-on power supply I mentioned.

Raul
----- Original Message -----
From: gdhiatt@...
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Leslie speaker question


In a message dated 2/19/02 9:11:13 PM Central Standard Time,
raul_de_jalapeno@... writes:


> Hi big G!
> All your A would need is a B+ supply. Many models of Leslies
have such a
> supply ready for the console. The alternative is to purchase
a B+ supply
> from Goff, Prokeys, etc. and install it in the console. I can
also supply
> you with a schematic for a simple, well-filtered supply to do
the job in
> your choice of tube or solid-state. I cheated with my CV: I
installed a
> Hammond MkIV reverb assembly right into the console cabinet.
I modified
> it's power supply to provide the B+ for the pre-amp.

So what you are saying is that pretty much any model of Leslie
would work and
a B+ supply is readily available? What's "B+" mean? Would the
6 pin cable
and plugs still work or does this require something different?

I think what I'm going to do is find the Leslie and know
there's a way to
make it work and then worry about the how to do it part after
I've got the
goods!

Thanks you for your help!

"Big G" :)





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Re: [hammond_zone] Leslie speaker question

Ken & Dianne Godfrey
 

Marcus,

No, in this case, a Model A is just an A. George has the real deal: the
ORIGINAL Hammond organ. A piece of history from the mid 30's that Laurens
Hammond probably inspected himself, before it went out the door!

BCV-KG

-----Original Message-----
From: marcus briddell [mailto:bro_marcusdb@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:13 PM
To: hammond_zone@...; gdhiatt@...
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Leslie speaker question



I really don't know what a Model A is, but the leslie is unique that it
either has a 6,9,or 11 pin outlet which will take almost any Hammond, and
those hammonds that have thier own speaker built in, can, thru
adapters be
hooked up to a leslie. If your hammond already has pins on it at
the bottom
then count the pins and go on the internet (e-bay) and try to
find a leslie,
even one with more or less pins and they have adapters to fit, (hammond
organ.com or keyword hammond organ or leslie)and in a matter of
days you can
find one, then call a hammond organ dealer. Hey, there are all sorts of
possibilities. By the way, I think model A is actually Model A
100, which
does support a leslie and has it's own internal speaker. If that be the
case you should get someone (professional) to do all of your hook
ups, this
is good because with the switches you can have both speakers on
at the same
time, or just the internal (without the spinning horns) or just
the leslie.
Go for it. Please give me an update, or if you need some advice,
e-mail me.
I look forward to chatting with you.

From: gdhiatt@...
Reply-To: hammond_zone@...
To: hammond_zone@...
Subject: [hammond_zone] Leslie speaker question
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 21:47:46 EST

Y'all I know you know about my DXR20 tone cabinet... Just suppose... just
suppose I found a Leslie someplace. What would I need to do to hook up my
Model A to it? Could I just plug it in or does it require getting some
other
equipment? I assume I'd need to have a Leslie with a power amp in it or
have
a separate amp. How does that work anyway do Leslies have an amp in them?
I'm wondering because I thought I should be on the lookout for an
opportunity
to get a Leslie and should start to know something about what I should be
looking for. George



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Re: [hammond_zone] Band Contest - we're almost there!

Ken & Dianne Godfrey
 

You guys have got my vote! Great song, great band, tasty sounding Hammond!

BCV-KG

-----Original Message-----
From: David Hagler [mailto:proto8@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:20 PM
To: Hammond Zone; clone; The Hammond Digest
Subject: [hammond_zone] Band Contest - we're almost there!


Hi everyone,
My band is currently in a contest at -



The song is called "Constance", which is the first track off of our
new CD. We're in Stadium 2, which is the semi-finals. It takes a
minute or two to sign up (you have to respond to an email), but
voting enters you to win cool stuff too! ;o) It's a pretty cool site
that lets you hear all sorts of music (some good, some not-so-good),
so you may want to check out some of the other groups too. Just don't
forget to vote for Reality Jones!! Thanks for the support. 8^)
David

Not to forget some Hammond info. - our song has lots of Hammond & the
others don't, so vote for us! ;o)




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Re: [hammond_zone] BV question

 

Raul,

You're welcome...or, sorry! (I'm sure your wife wants to shoot me right
about now!) :>)

One thing I think I might like to do is add a (gasp!) digital reverb to my
BCV. I want cathedral-like slap echo! I want about 5 seconds of decay!
Unfortunately, I don't think I'll get that with any good old tank reverb.

So, when you figure out all the wonders of the AO15331...well, let's just
say I'm going to owe you a week's worth of dinners or something!

BCV-Ken

----- Original Message -----
From: "Raul de Jalapeno" <raul_de_jalapeno@...>
To: <hammond_zone@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] BV question


Ken,
YOU are the man that alerted me to this CV. You wouldn't recognize it now!
You well know I couldn't figure this amp when we first spoke of it. I was
trying to figure how we could modify it to accept an effects loop and all
that, remember? Then I drew out the circuit and I was amazed! Even t_402 was
blown away, and that says something. Now, I think I'd rater work with the
ole AO-13551 than the AO-28! I've been drawing and scheming and scheming
and drawing. This will be quite a rig when it's done, I believe. Now, if I
can move the C-3, I'll have the space I need to really get into it. I know
I'm not the only one, but I'm just dying over those 2 waterlogged Bs on
EBay. If I was just a little closer....

Raul


----- Original Message -----
From: godfreys5@...
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] BV question


Raul,

Sounds like you're off to a good start! GO! GO! GO!

BCV-KG

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Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] BV question







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R: [hammond_zone] Taking a break

 

My prayers go out to you...
I so understand you 'cause my Dad had a heartattack a year and a half ago
and
I was really freaked out 'cause we have this bond... we even play together
and
are really good friends!
I wish you and him good luck!
Yours truely,

Roger

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Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:45 AM
Subject: [hammond_zone] Taking a break



I will be taking a break for a while... my Dad has had two strokes in
24hrs
and was rushed into hospital today. I will be back as soon as he is given
the all clear.

Daz



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Re: [hammond_zone] Taking a break

Dirk Beintema
 

I'm with you, Daz!


Dirk


From: "daz" <daz395@...>
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To: "Hammond_Zone@..." <hammond_zone@...>
Subject: [hammond_zone] Taking a break
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 23:45:21 -0000


I will be taking a break for a while... my Dad has had two strokes in 24hrs
and was rushed into hospital today. I will be back as soon as he is given
the all clear.

Daz

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Re: [hammond_zone] Taking a break

 

Daz

My regards to you and and your dad - be with him and support him anyway you can.

zymes



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Subject: [hammond_zone] Taking a break
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 23:45:21 -0000


I will be taking a break for a while... my Dad has had two strokes in 24hrs
and was rushed into hospital today. I will be back as soon as he is given
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Re: [hammond_zone] foldback 2

Gandert De Boo
 

Here is another thought. I spoke to this guy lately who told me how simple it was to add foldback. He said I should just wire the notes from an existing contact to a new contact were the note als should play. This sounds too easy to me. Or was this guy talking crap?

Gandert

----- Original Message -----
From: Gandert De Boo
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 8:41 PM
Subject: [hammond_zone] foldback


While I was looking through some old mails, I saw something about foldback. I know what it is. I also know my l122 don't have it. On the capitan folback site was a link to a folback site so i checked it out. After reading some instructions, I thought it could usefull to take a look in my own hammond. It's all opened up now and i can see now how the contacts are made. But i also can see that getting more to the right of the organ, the number of contacts per key is going less.
Now is my question what will i need excactly to add foldback to my l122?

This is what I could figure out:
1. 50 contacts per manual, but how do I get these?
2. Wires to connect the notes to the proper contacts. I noticed that the wires that connect the notes to the connects are very thin. Are these special wires?

And what are bussbars?

I know some of you know excactly what I'm talking about. So let it roll!!!

Gandert





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Re: [hammond_zone] Dirt at lower leves WAS Re: BV question

Gandert De Boo
 

Chris,

I have a l100 and I am very plaesed with the way it sounds on full volume. However more overdrive could be usefull once in a while. Where do I find that ''choke of the 12bh7 in the reverb drive unit''?
This isn't a dangerous thing to do, right?

Gandert

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Clifton
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Dirt at lower leves WAS Re: BV question


If you want real good diode/class B distortion, get an L-100 and disconnect
the choke from the anode of the 12BH7 in the reverb drive circuit. With no
anode load the grid and cathode of the 12BH7 act as a diode across the
signal path, much distortion!!!!

From the Weyr and from the Bowl,
Bronze and brown and blue and green,
Rise the dragonmen of Pern,
Aloft on wing, seen, then unseen.

Chris 50 & Laura 17, Sam(uel)15 and Emily 11 in Llanelli

----- Original Message -----
From: "t402_owner" <t402_owner@...>
To: <hammond_zone@...>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:29 AM
Subject: [hammond_zone] Dirt at lower leves WAS Re: BV question


> Raul, hi mate
>
> Yes I agree it can be done HOWEVER IMHO I fear diode-like class B
> will sound terribly harsh. IMHO you'll be better off pushing bias
> substantially zerowards (ie class A) and then a diddly notch onto
> heavy compression. Distortion plus grind, dirt and all that stuff
> Laurens was so ashamed of will stand out at lower volume levels :-)
>
> Cheerio
>
> t402
>
> --- In hammond_zone@y..., "Randall Bush" <raul_de_jalapeno@h...>
> wrote:
>
> (snip)
>
> The input of the second
> > preamp section is a 6J7 pentode connected in super triode
> configuration. I'm
> > going to experiment with the voltage levels on the different grid
> elements
> > to see if I can drive the stage into class B clipping while
> maintaining the
> > same volume level. One thing George Hiatt was talking about is
> adding a
> > little bit of "dirt" at lower gain levels. I think it can be done.
>
>
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Re: [hammond_zone] hooking up a-100 to 47leslie9(Ron)

 

OK i'll do that

thanks ....jeff


Re: [hammond_zone] Comon Grounds

Randall Bush
 

Norm:
I may have a couple 6LQ6 in my stash. I'll check when I get home tonight. Where are you located?

Raul


From: "normiii84501" <nasmith@...>
Reply-To: hammond_zone@...
To: hammond_zone@...
Subject: [hammond_zone] Comon Grounds
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 14:32:54 -0000

It's nice to see that we all have some mutual intrests. But really
guys 138 kV and 335 Kv. That's all transmission stuff. I worked
distribution 46 kV and down. No space in the back yard for those
tubs but there is a place in Montrose Colorado that will take them!!
Now for the serious stuff. It's good to see the members of this
group offering their prayers and sympathy when greif strikes a
friend. That shows that there is truly an indisoluabale bond here
that probably goes beyond making notes on the post page. Now on the
briter side. I'm looking for 4 6LQ6 or 6JE6C I know they are not
Hammond Tubes but those who move in the tube circles might see
something like this. I'm also a Ham Radio Operator and my linear amp
is getting pretty soft and four of these guys would solve the
problem. Keep the faith folks and I will keep checkin' in and
wailin' on the old X-77.

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Comon Grounds

normiii84501
 

It's nice to see that we all have some mutual intrests. But really
guys 138 kV and 335 Kv. That's all transmission stuff. I worked
distribution 46 kV and down. No space in the back yard for those
tubs but there is a place in Montrose Colorado that will take them!!
Now for the serious stuff. It's good to see the members of this
group offering their prayers and sympathy when greif strikes a
friend. That shows that there is truly an indisoluabale bond here
that probably goes beyond making notes on the post page. Now on the
briter side. I'm looking for 4 6LQ6 or 6JE6C I know they are not
Hammond Tubes but those who move in the tube circles might see
something like this. I'm also a Ham Radio Operator and my linear amp
is getting pretty soft and four of these guys would solve the
problem. Keep the faith folks and I will keep checkin' in and
wailin' on the old X-77.


Re: Yahoogroups

kfrick_1999
 

There is a club for Simplicty/AC Tractor owners that has a nice site,
and the membership is free...they have a chat room, message board,
even for sale and wanted ads....I don't know how they do it, I joined
because I own an old tractor, but they never asked me for
money.....yet!

The URL is . I just don't know enough
about obtaining server space and administering a site to ask
intelligent questions, so I'll leave that to another interested party.

Just a suggestion. No kickback will come my way! (hehe)

-karl


Re: [hammond_zone] Dirt at lower leves WAS Re: BV question

Raul de Jalapeno
 

Ouch, Chris!! I said a "little", mate! With that setup, I'd better put zippers around the driver frames! but, no 12BH7, here. This is that little, stinky reverb designed by Packard-Bell. Uses a 6GW8 and carries it's own 6X4 power supply. Handy for the pre-amp.

Raul

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Clifton
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:35 AM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Dirt at lower leves WAS Re: BV question


If you want real good diode/class B distortion, get an L-100 and disconnect
the choke from the anode of the 12BH7 in the reverb drive circuit. With no
anode load the grid and cathode of the 12BH7 act as a diode across the
signal path, much distortion!!!!

From the Weyr and from the Bowl,
Bronze and brown and blue and green,
Rise the dragonmen of Pern,
Aloft on wing, seen, then unseen.

Chris 50 & Laura 17, Sam(uel)15 and Emily 11 in Llanelli

----- Original Message -----
From: "t402_owner" <t402_owner@...>
To: <hammond_zone@...>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:29 AM
Subject: [hammond_zone] Dirt at lower leves WAS Re: BV question


Re: [hammond_zone] Dirt at lower leves WAS Re: BV question

Raul de Jalapeno
 

Ha Ha!!! There's my mate! I agree completey. What you suggest was on my list of to do's. I'll consult with you when I'm ready to begin I have to tell you...I love this pre-amp. It was a really odd duck to me at first, but now.....two seperate push-pull class A triodes on the same chassis, split for you convienence, push-pull pentodes, super triode. What more could one ask for? Talk about easy experimentation! I patched in the MkIV reverb amp with some pots. Viola! Instant deep, rich reverb!

Raul

----- Original Message -----
From: t402_owner
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:29 AM
Subject: [hammond_zone] Dirt at lower leves WAS Re: BV question


Raul, hi mate

Yes I agree it can be done HOWEVER IMHO I fear diode-like class B
will sound terribly harsh. IMHO you'll be better off pushing bias
substantially zerowards (ie class A) and then a diddly notch onto
heavy compression. Distortion plus grind, dirt and all that stuff
Laurens was so ashamed of will stand out at lower volume levels :-)

Cheerio

t402

--- In hammond_zone@y..., "Randall Bush" <raul_de_jalapeno@h...>
wrote:

(snip)

The input of the second
> preamp section is a 6J7 pentode connected in super triode
configuration. I'm
> going to experiment with the voltage levels on the different grid
elements
> to see if I can drive the stage into class B clipping while
maintaining the
> same volume level. One thing George Hiatt was talking about is
adding a
> little bit of "dirt" at lower gain levels. I think it can be done.


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Re: [hammond_zone] Taking a break

 

You are in my thoughts and prayers also. Serious illness isn't anything anybody likes to deal with. George


Re: [hammond_zone] Dirt at lower leves WAS Re: BV question

Chris Clifton
 

If you want real good diode/class B distortion, get an L-100 and disconnect
the choke from the anode of the 12BH7 in the reverb drive circuit. With no
anode load the grid and cathode of the 12BH7 act as a diode across the
signal path, much distortion!!!!

From the Weyr and from the Bowl,
Bronze and brown and blue and green,
Rise the dragonmen of Pern,
Aloft on wing, seen, then unseen.

Chris 50 & Laura 17, Sam(uel)15 and Emily 11 in Llanelli

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From: "t402_owner" <t402_owner@...>
To: <hammond_zone@...>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:29 AM
Subject: [hammond_zone] Dirt at lower leves WAS Re: BV question


Raul, hi mate

Yes I agree it can be done HOWEVER IMHO I fear diode-like class B
will sound terribly harsh. IMHO you'll be better off pushing bias
substantially zerowards (ie class A) and then a diddly notch onto
heavy compression. Distortion plus grind, dirt and all that stuff
Laurens was so ashamed of will stand out at lower volume levels :-)

Cheerio

t402

--- In hammond_zone@y..., "Randall Bush" <raul_de_jalapeno@h...>
wrote:

(snip)

The input of the second
preamp section is a 6J7 pentode connected in super triode
configuration. I'm
going to experiment with the voltage levels on the different grid
elements
to see if I can drive the stage into class B clipping while
maintaining the
same volume level. One thing George Hiatt was talking about is
adding a
little bit of "dirt" at lower gain levels. I think it can be done.


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Dirt at lower leves WAS Re: BV question

t402_owner
 

Raul, hi mate

Yes I agree it can be done HOWEVER IMHO I fear diode-like class B
will sound terribly harsh. IMHO you'll be better off pushing bias
substantially zerowards (ie class A) and then a diddly notch onto
heavy compression. Distortion plus grind, dirt and all that stuff
Laurens was so ashamed of will stand out at lower volume levels :-)

Cheerio

t402

--- In hammond_zone@y..., "Randall Bush" <raul_de_jalapeno@h...>
wrote:

(snip)

The input of the second
preamp section is a 6J7 pentode connected in super triode
configuration. I'm
going to experiment with the voltage levels on the different grid
elements
to see if I can drive the stage into class B clipping while
maintaining the
same volume level. One thing George Hiatt was talking about is
adding a
little bit of "dirt" at lower gain levels. I think it can be done.


Hammond tasty tidbits

t402_owner
 

Hiya,

Came across these and I thought I'd let you know




Cheers

t402


Re: [hammond_zone] hooking up a-100 to 47leslie

Laddie Williams
 

I wonder how much they wanted for the 251

----- Original Message -----
From: daz
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:45 PM
Subject: RE: [hammond_zone] hooking up a-100 to 47leslie


The high end Kawai DX range had drawbars, it was the DX900 that took off
though, it was brought out to compete against the Yamaha D85... IMHO it
failed miserably.

-----Original Message-----
From: dougsyolists@... [mailto:dougsyolists@...]
Sent: 19 February 2002 22:59
To: hammond_zone@...
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] hooking up a-100 to 47leslie


While I was at Gulia's yesterday (Canton OH), in addition to the Leslie 251
they had, I also saw a Leslie 415. This is a solid-state, 11-pin,
two-channel
unit, slightly smaller than a 145 (27W x 18D x 30H vs 145 29W x 20D x 33H)
in
a wood finish case that was in pretty good condition. It has the main+reverb
inputs just like a 251. They were asking $700 for it. I didn't try it out,
but I thought about it for my church's A-100, I could've actually stuffed it
into my back seat, something I couldn't do with a 145 (that 2" of width
makes
a lot of difference).

Incidentally, the 251 they had apparently started life as a 147RV (it had
the
147RV sticker on the back). The amp had been swapped and the reverb unit
removed, leaving just the stationary speaker for the reverb channel. It was
"over $1,000" but I didn't ask specifics. They were willing to sell it solo.
They also had a B-3/142 pair there, plays well, case looks awful, for $3500,
and numerous CV's, A-100's, an A, etc. They also had an XB-3A, a very nice
Allen and - of all things - a Kawai that had drawbars/percussion. I'd never
seen that before.

Doug

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