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It's an interesting thing but "Old Time Radio" 1930's & 1940's was
pretty good stuff. It chalanged your imagination. Contemporary
Broadcasting of any kind, ie. TV or Radio, has not learned this
lesson. They depend on shock value for their Nielson Ratings and
that's junk. Now what's this to do with a bunch of folks who fix
old Hammond Organs and play them? If your Imagination hasn't been
chanlenged then I guess you are sort of brain dead. I have never
worked harder at improving my playing. My skills at keeping the "Old
Girl" running and sounding good are improving as well. Best thing
that could have happened to me was I picked the X-77. I got it for
$500.00 US in living room condition. Needed some internal work and I
am doing that after 25 years of designing power line distribution
systems. Another thing I still process my own Black & White film in
the laundry room. It's too bad that more folks have not discovered
the magic of the Senior Hammonds. Nuff Said

Raul I think you mentioned that there is a difference in sound with the BV
and B3 and a few others... like there are more tonewheels or something or a
difference in frequencies. Can you elaborate? If I was playing one, then
playing the other what would I hear? Thanks! George

I agree, thanks from me, too...John Cammish

From: robbidobbi@...
Reply-To: hammond_zone@...
To: hammond_zone@...
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Leslie speaker question
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 00:11:54 EST

Man what a great site. Lots of great history and info. thanks sam

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Raul de Jalapeno wrote:

Linda, it's amazing what abuse these things can take sometime. My CV
had been sitting in an unheated, open garage for years. the side of
the cabinet facing the open door was bleached grey. With a little TLC
and alot of elbow work, the cabinet has come back with no refinishing.

Raul

The B3/22H I have was full of mold among other things from sitting
unused in a very moldy little country church for years. Got it for $450,
non working. Put 2K or so into it and it is as good as new!

Linda

Not such a thing as "too much Hammond". You are bringing up the kids
right!

Linda

Raul de Jalapeno wrote:

Well said, Robbie! My six year old girl would much rather do things with Mom and I than watch TV. Last night, yanked apart the drawbars on my CV and she wouldn't sit still untill she got to take out the screws (after I loosened them), removed the contact springs and pulled out the bars. Now the scary part..."Daddy" she says "are we going to make these drawbars smooth like the C-3?" Hmmm...can there be such a thing as too much Hammond?

Raul

Linda, it's amazing what abuse these things can take sometime. My CV had been sitting in an unheated, open garage for years. the side of the cabinet facing the open door was bleached grey. With a little TLC and alot of elbow work, the cabinet has come back with no refinishing.

Raul

Hank Marr told me a story about one of his B3s getting a "shower" from
a park sprinkler that came on at its regularly programmed time (when it
was supposed to be disengaged for the duration of this particular
festival). This organ was repairable, too. The organ was watched and
kept safe from theft overnight, but apparently not from the sprinkler
system.

Got to keep that grass green ya know at all costs....(rolling my eyes at
the incompetence of some of our city employees....)

Linda

Ron Bell wrote:

Hmmm....boo-boo, here. i ment the CV/Leslie would represent the higher end at the $2,000 you stated. Sorry.
I agree, but is you CV a full B-3 in another cabinet? There is a CV with a 760 currently on e-bay at $2000.00 Is that a good number???






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Robbi:
Did you buy this thing yet or are you looking? Do you live in the area?

Raul

Laddie:
Absolutely, no on the full B-3. However, pick through the pros and cons, here. First the pros: Start with the Tone Generator. The BV/B-2 series has the complex tone generator with the extra frequencies as opposed to the B-3. Many prefer that sound. The manuals are top notch. No funky foam, so were OK there. The pre-amp. Even though the preamp requires an outside B+ feed, the electronics are superb. Ask Ken-BCV what I thought of this thing at first...weird! But, after I made a schematic of it and understood the circuitry, I recanted publicly and understood that this thing's cool! Again, I've found a number of folks who prefer this sound over the B-3 preamp. I, myself, prefer the growl of my CV over that of my C-3. The drawback of the pre-amp is the lack of single-ended amp stages makes it hard to fit third-party accessories like Trek IIs reverb. I have a workaround for that, however. Now the cons: The drawbars stink. I'm converting mine to the *-3 style right now. Vibrato affects both manuals at the same time. No soft/normal switch. No percussion. This last is a pro or a con depending on how you feel. Myself, I like the Trek II percussion unit better than the factory B-3 unit. So, your right, they are not B-3s. but they are a great organ. in fact, if someone wanted to kit out their console with accessories of their choosing, I think the BV/CV and B-2/C-2 might be better choices to start with. In addition, they are much less expensive than their *-3 counterparts. You can spend your dough on the mods you want and have a great organ!
Regarding prices, I think the group will concur that a real good C-3 with a tone cab will bring about $2,500 max and about $5,000 max with a good Leslie. I'd say that the CV with the 760 would represent the higher end of that combo, if the both pieces were really good. What does the group think?

Raul

On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 21:33:48 -0000
"kfrick_1999" <kfrick@...> wrote:

Cris, I suppose I could feed the PR-40 directly from the G-G
terminals, right? That would serve to isolate the leslie without
adding a xfrmr........the leslie kit would still connect to G-G, as
well.....

That would be the standard way to do it (hook up both a PR and a Leslie,
that is.) (You don't get reverbe switching that way though.)

Here you go Laddie.



Ron Bell.

Hi George,
I agree with yop that these organs are precious, but not because the
dont't make them anymore. They are precious to us because we like them.
There is always plenty of Hammonds out there for sale so they are not
exactly rare.
The person probably knew what they were doing, the organ just was not worth
much if anything to them.
It happens all the time with many things. One mans junk is another mans
treasure, so it goes.

On the watch for neglected and abused Hammonds,
Ron Bell.

I'm shocked! These organs are precious because they aren't being made
anymore, nor could they be like they used to be made. Somebody didn't

know

what they were doing or what they are worth. George

Not all Hammonds are B-3's, but they are still Hammonds ;)

Hi Laddie.
Depends who and where you are, and whether you are buying from a dealer or
privatley.
$1000.00 American seems like alot to me but might be normal for your
location. Anyone know what Leslies can be found for in Fla., there must be a
few around with all the old folks retiring and then expiring in that area
{sorry if that sounds a little morbid}.
I live in Victoria B.C. and I have met a few people selling there late
parents Hammonds and Leslies. They are usually quite happy to let it go for
a good price to someone who will appreciate them.
99.99999 per cent. of people are not stark raving mad about Hammonds and
Leslies like some of us are, to them they is just big, heavy, tacky things
taking up space. Hence people leaving them in the rain. Most of the people
who ask what instrument I play don't even know what a Hammond is let alone a
Leslie. Then there are people who look on ebay and see a 125 going for $600
and want no less for it.
So to answer your question, pay whatever you think is fair but do your
research and keep your eyes open.

Happy Hammond{and Leslie} hunting,
Ron Bell.

You wont have to swich them. The 6 to 6 cable will go from the kit to the
Leslie, you don't even use the 5 pin out on the AO-39.

The organ connects to the kit though the socket labled console, how many
pins does this part of the kit have?.

Look at the 26-1 diagram and it will make sence.

Ron Bell.

I agree, but is you CV a full B-3 in another cabinet? There is a CV with a 760 currently on e-bay at $2000.00 Is that a good number???

The group could set up their own e-mail system.. maybe that would do it. I would cost a few dollars and I do mean like
under $100.00 It would have its own URL and ISP number. And the usual URL maintenance fee.