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Re: [hammond_zone] drawbar settings

Carlo Pietroniro
 

Brian,

I understand your point. I've been to many protestant churches, both as a member of the congregation, and as an organist. My comments are coming from the angle of someone who's a concert organist................

carlo


Re: [hammond_zone] drawbar settings

Brian Williams
 

In a recent post that which is below is stated.

"there are many organists whose churches have Hammond organs, and while the Hammond 'sound' is great, it's not exactly what a church organ should sound like,..." >

WAIT A SECOND. Who said that is not what a church should sound like??? THe Hammond organ is the only church organ to have. I take it you have never been to a pentecostal church. I think you would know would I mean if you saw it. The Leslie on 10, amd the B3 Blastin' like you would not believe.

some of my favorite settings with the right hand are

800000008

I usually start with this and then add this:

808000008

Just kinda brightens it up but it is still under the banner of mellow. This is good with the leslie on fast.

THis sound has a good sound that is slighty nasal. very cool

688645457

TO get real bright I go with the

808808008, 848808008, and of course the 888888888 although this tends to rock the house so hard that the chandeliers come down.

you can "nasal-up" your sound by pulling out the second drawbar further than the first. the greate the ditance between them the more nasal the sound.

all of these I have the vibrato on C-3. THe only time I turn the vibrato off is for padding. I do it sometimes to mix things up. need a change every once and a while.

AS FOR THE LEFT HAND

I used to always go with 888800000 for a deep bass sound. I have now discovered a more raunchy bass sound that has two uses.

First, of course when played at the lower octaves has an extremely "rockin" bass

Secondly, When played at the very high octaves it will make your B3 SCREAM like you would NOT BELIEVE.

ALSO IT HAS AN AWESOME GLISSANDO SOUND. Try runnin' your hand up and down the manual and tell me what you think!!!


It can't be used for really anything else because it sounds like a dying duck if you try to lead with it.

Here it is baby:

088800000

Tell me what you think. THis has been a trick that us pentecostals have used for a long time. Maybe it is only suitable for loud chuch but it works.

I have other settings too but I think this is good enough


tell me what you think,



Brian




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Re: [hammond_zone] BBC Radio 4

Chris Clifton
 

Hey Darren,
Don't forget to let us know when it'll be broadcast. You can listen
anywhere in the world over the web www.bbc.co.uk/radio4

From the Weyr and from the Bowl,
Bronze and brown and blue and green,
Rise the dragonmen of Pern,
Aloft on wing, seen, then unseen.

Chris 50 & Laura 17, Sam(uel)15 and Emily 11 in Llanelli

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Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: [hammond_zone] BBC Radio 4


I need a hand Guys and Girls,

Alan Hall (BBC Radio 4) just called. He has a 20 minute program
going out at the end of March about The Hammond Organ and the
Song "A Whiter Shade of Pale". Gary Brooker will be on (pity Matthew
Fisher wont be) Alan asked me to explain what it is about the
Hammond Organ- to quote- 'that swirling sound' that makes this track
so special. Here is the catch..I have two to three minutes to do it
in.

If you have any ideas how to concisely define the Hammond Sound in
the context of "A Whiter Shade Of Pale" I would be realy gratefull
of any ideas. I don't think I am the best choice realy, but I have a
few ideas.

Darren



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Re: [hammond_zone] drawbar settings

Brian Williams
 

In a recent post that which is below is stated.

"there are many organists whose churches have Hammond organs, and while the Hammond 'sound' is great, it's not exactly what a church organ should sound like,..." >

WAIT A SECOND. Who said that is not what a church should sound like??? THe Hammond organ is the only church organ to have. I take it you have never been to a pentecostal church. I think you would know would I mean if you saw it. The Leslie on 10, amd the B3 Blastin' like you would not believe.

some of my favorite settings with the right hand are

800000008

I usually start with this and then add this:

808000008

Just kinda brightens it up but it is still under the banner of mellow. This is good with the leslie on fast.

THis sound has a good sound that is slighty nasal. very cool

688645457

TO get real bright I go with the

808808008, 848808008, and of course the 888888888 although this tends to rock the house so hard that the chandeliers come down.

you can "nasal-up" your sound by pulling out the second drawbar further than the first. the greate the ditance between them the more nasal the sound.

all of these I have the vibrato on C-3. THe only time I turn the vibrato off is for padding. I do it sometimes to mix things up. need a change every once and a while.

AS FOR THE LEFT HAND

I used to always go with 888800000 for a deep bass sound. I have now discovered a more raunchy bass sound that has two uses.

First, of course when played at the lower octaves has an extremely "rockin" bass

Secondly, When played at the very high octaves it will make your B3 SCREAM like you would NOT BELIEVE. Also it is good for some glissandos. It can't be used for really anything else because it sounds like a dying duck if you try to lead with it.

Here it is baby:

088800000

Tell me what you think. THis has been a trick that us pentecostals have used for a long time. Maybe it is only suitable for loud chuch but it works.

I have other settings too but I think this is good enough


tell me what you think,



Brian


nice mellow tone to pl




I'll post some drawbar settings for church organists soon........

carlo






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Re: [hammond_zone] Novice on board

Ron Bell
 

Welcome to the group!!!!
Congratulations on your Hammond acquisition.
Where are you located and what type of power do ya have? 240v 50htz, 120v
60 htz? The tone generator is run by a synchronous motor, it runs in snyc
with the cycles of the AC.

Cheers,
Ron Bell.

----- Original Message -----
From: "macnkilt"
I am new to th entire Hammond scene, but as a dedicated novice
pianist, I found it hard to resist a very nice condition M3 with
Leslie 45 for $200. Now I'm dividing my time between trying to
learn Piano and Organ... I am glad that I found a group to go to for
support, advice and etc... I'm pretty pleased with the purchase as
both are in great shape and sound very nice save for the following:
All of the 'F's are off (actually regiser as b-flat on tuner) any
suggestions?

Thanks all


Novice on board

macnkilt
 

I am new to th entire Hammond scene, but as a dedicated novice
pianist, I found it hard to resist a very nice condition M3 with
Leslie 45 for $200. Now I'm dividing my time between trying to
learn Piano and Organ... I am glad that I found a group to go to for
support, advice and etc... I'm pretty pleased with the purchase as
both are in great shape and sound very nice save for the following:
All of the 'F's are off (actually regiser as b-flat on tuner) any
suggestions?

Thanks all


Re: [hammond_zone] Novice on board

 

EXCELLENT DEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


special effects with the drawbars

Carlo Pietroniro
 

xylophones
wood--->00 0800 600
metal--->00 0880 008
percussion: normal, fast, second
vibrato off

calliope
00 8000 000
C-2 vibrato chorus

door chime
00 6200 000 (strike E flat to Middle C)
percussion: on, normal, slow, second
vibrato off

dog bark
08 8000 000 (play C, C#, D above Middle C)

banjo
00 3688 870
play fast rolled chords low on keyboard
V-1 vibrato

grandfather's clock
30 2000 000
strike lower B-F
vibrato off
percussion on

tugboat
00 8500 020
play lowest F-F#-G
V-1 vibrato

harp
00 5210 202
play fast arpeggios
vibrato off

sleigh bells
00 0888 888
handful high on keyboard
percussion on normal
V-3 vibrato

orchestral bells
00 4544 430
percussion: normal, slow, second

glockenspiel
84 8848 440
percussion: normal, fast, second

bell lyra
84 8848 440
percussion: normal, slow, third


Theatre Organ

Carlo Pietroniro
 

Tibia 16--->72 0020 000
Bourdon 16--->54 3100 000
Diapason 16--->64 3322 000
Solo Strings 16--->25 4421 000
Contra Viol 16--->24 3210 000
Contra Celeste 16--->23 4321 000
Vox Humana 16--->14 3110 000
Oboe Horn 16--->47 5430 000
Saxophone 16--->27 3210 000
Clarinet 16--->35 2000 000
English Horn 16--->25 3442 100
Ophicleide 16--->47 7600 000

Tibia 8--->00 8240 000
Concert Flute 8--->00 6421 000
Diapason 8--->00 5642 110
Solo Strings 8--->00 2366 542
Viol D'Orchestre 8--->00 2444 322
Viole Celeste 8--->00 2323 211
Vox Humana 8--->00 3400 332
Oboe Horn 8--->00 4763 000
Saxophone 8--->00 2478 500
Clarinet 8--->00 8382 700
English Horn 8--->00 3577 540
Tuba 8--->00 5680 400

Flute 4--->00 0803 030
Piccolo 4--->00 0600 000
Octave 4--->00 0545 321
Solo Strings 4--->00 0436 555
Viol 4--->00 0344 232
Octave Celeste 4--->00 0324 220
Vox Humana 4--->00 0433 042
Oboe Horn 4--->00 0606 310
Clarion 4--->00 0515 230

Tibia 2--->00 0006 001
Piccolo 2--->00 0005 111

Twelfth--->00 0060 020


more stops

Carlo Pietroniro
 

a few more stops found on pipe organs..........

Harmonic Flute 4....00 0804 011
Piccolo 2....00 0006 132
Siffloete 1....00 0000 005
Contra Fagotte 16....17 5321 000

Quintadena 16....23 0000 000

Larigot 1 1/3....00 0000 060


Romantic Organ

Carlo Pietroniro
 

SWELL
Gedeckt 16....32 2000 000
Geigen Diapason 8....00 4743 221
Stopped Diapason 8....00 5141 100
Aeoline 8....00 2311 000
Salicional 8....00 2433 222
Viol Da Gamba 8....00 2423 221
Voix Celeste 8....00 2434 432
Octave Geigen 4....00 0414 231
Traverse Flute 4....00 0601 010
Fifteenth 2....00 0002 223
Cornet V....00 4446 533
Oboe 8...00 4764 210
Trumpet 8....00 6867 531
Clarion 4....00 0545 452
Double Trumpet 16....36 6420 000
Vox Humana 8....00 3453 542

CHOIR
Dulciana 8....00 3320 000
Unda Maris 8....00 3421 000
Melodia 8....00 5200 000
Concert Flute 8....00 4511 000
Diapason 8....00 3412 210
Orchestral Flute 8....00 0805 000
Flute D'Amour 4....00 0501 000
Principal 4....00 0415 112
Flageolet 2....00 0004 112
Nazard 2 2/3....00 0040 030
Tierce 1 3/5....00 0000 500
Clarinet 8....00 7462 420

SOLO
French Horn 8....00 7531 000
English Horn 8....00 3744 320
Grosse Flute 8....00 8723 100
Tromba 8....00 6868 642
Bassoon 8....08 7500 000
Heckelphone 8....00 6776 400

GREAT
1st Open Diapason 8....00 6634 221
2nd Open Diapason 8....00 6433 322
Hohl Flute 8....00 5311 000
Gemshorn 8....00 3511 110
Octave 4....00 055 342
Flute Triangulaire 4....00 0503 010
Super Octave 2....00 0006 234
Mixture IV....00 0564 123
Tromba 8....01 6554 430


my favorite model

Carlo Pietroniro
 

I think my (2nd) favorite model is the "concert" model (RT-3), because of the AGO pedalboard, and the solo pedal unit. I played a concert on one of these, and it was a great success. We had to rent a Leslie though, because the 2 Hammond tone cabinets that the church had, didn't really sound that good. The sound of the organ was 'dead', but when we hooked up the Leslie, and put the tremolo on slow (chorale), it really sounded great, as the sounds was now 'alive'. If a church has a Leslie speaker on their Hammond, it can sound pretty good.........

carlo


Re: I'll Try again sry bad link

ronbell145
 

It is manditory reading for everyone, and there will be a test to
follow;)

Ron.



"Raul de Jalapeno" wrote:

Ron...what is that....it's....it's....just WHAT is it??

Raul


Re: [hammond_zone] drawbar settings

Carlo Pietroniro
 

there are many organists whose churches have Hammond organs, and while the Hammond 'sound' is great, it's not exactly what a church organ should sound like, especially if you're trying to play toccatas, fugues, and whatever, which isn't too easy on most Hammond organs, since 99% of them only have 25 pedals. As for the spinet models...........forget it!!!!

I'll post some drawbar settings for church organists soon........

carlo


Re: [hammond_zone] new member

Carlo Pietroniro
 

I'd love to get into a discussion about Allen organs (and others), but this is a Hammond list, so I'll bite my tongue................

carlo


Re: [hammond_zone] I'll Try again sry bad link

Raul de Jalapeno
 

Ron...what is that....it's....it's....just WHAT is it??

Raul

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Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 9:18 PM
Subject: [hammond_zone] I'll Try again sry bad link





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I'll Try again sry bad link

ronbell145
 


Tone Geneator Theory of Operation.

Ron Bell
 

This is too much!!
ttp://www.myplanet.net/x77dude/twg.html

Ron Bell.


Re: [hammond_zone] re: A Whiter Shade Of Pale

Peter D Abrams
 



Alex Poole wrote:


PS do you have a URL for Matthew Fisher's web site?
Don't think I've seen that one?

Cheers,
Alex

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Re: new member

ronbell145
 

--- In hammond_zone@y..., "Laddie Williams
Jimmy,
The G-100 came almost in the middle of the B-3 era. It was first
made in February of 1946 and they made the last one
in 1967. this message have been removed]
You are mixing the dates of the model G with the G-100.

The model G was basicly a D with different wood work, built in
speakers and removable handles, the G stood for Government issue. The
D was manufactured from 1941 yo 1944.

Now the G-100 was manufactured from 1964 to 1967 according to one
source and from 1963 to 1965 according to another, but it started and
finished production while the B-3 was still being produced.

Cheers,
Ron Bell.