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----- Original Message -----
From: <dougsyolists@...>
To: <hammond_zone@...>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] stops and couplers versus drawbars

In a message dated 03/01/2002 1:10:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,
organist@... writes:

<< I can't tell you how many organists I've bumped into over the years who
ask me this very same question, "do we add the numbers when adding a

stop?",

to which the answer is...NO. In order to create the desired effect, one

must

first understand how pipe organs work, and once that is done, then

naturally,

adding the numbers will seem 'not the right thing to do'. When you draw

stops

on a traditional organ, you're not necessarily making the ensemble louder.

I posted the list of stops and their drawbar equivalents for two reasons.
First, it's nice to see how all the different stops can be produced using

the

drawbars, and also to help people out when it comes to adding a certain

stop

to the ensemble. While stops cannot be drawn on the Hammond organ one

after

the other to produce a 'combination' of registers, the effect of a
combination can be achieved, but in a different manner. The largest number
for each harmonic becomes the proper intensity in the final ensemble. >>


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----- Original Message -----
From: dougsyolists@...
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:31 AM
Subject: Fwd: [hammond_zone] e100


In a message dated 2/28/2002 2:42:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
bottomline@... writes:

> I saw someone who was selling a hammond E100. I myself have a L100. But I
> was wondering, in what way do these two organs differ from each other.
> Will it be worth buying the E100 for 1000 dollars?

In the USA, no. If you shop around and bide your time, you can get an A-100
for $900-1500 or so. I think Speakeasy Vintage Music had them fully
refurbished starting at $2000. I recently spent $1500 on decent A-105 that
needed about 10 hours work and $75 investment to get it "up to snuff". I
probably over-paid for it, but I wanted the A-105 style case and bought it
from a friend.

In 12/00 bought an E-112 for $75 from a pawn shop, kept it a year doing
minimal work on it, and recently sold it for on EBay $120 with the service
manual, so it was about a wash. The reason I bought it was for the full-size
manuals & pedals. I really liked my L-295 spinet more, and I always treated
the E-112 as "inferior to what I really wanted".

E-100's are missing the bottom twelve "complex" pedal tonewheels (the pedals
are done with a divider, sound lousy, and you can only play one at a time).
There's 3 fixed presets and one set of drawbars per manual, no reverse-color
presets. Keys are diving-board, not waterfall. On the bright side, they DO
have the scanner vibrato and tonewheel generator, and an onboard amp with
reverb. It's possible to hook a Leslie to one.

Regarding the percussion: they don't have the 2nd/3rd percussion (this is a
possible mod, I have documents from Michael Fulk about how to do it). Instead
they have "pre-voiced" percussion like an R-100, T-100, and H-100 (with
guitar, banjo, chime, xylophone, and marimba, brush & cymbal).

The output tubes (7591 if I remember right) are pricey if they need to be
replaced. On the whole, the E-100 and H-100 are considered "finicky", better
get a service manual for it (and no, these manuals don't turn up on EBay like
console and M-series manuals do, get one from Jerry Welch).

So unless an better alternative is REALLY unobtainable where you're at, pass
or haggle.

Doug





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----- Original Message -----
From: Raul de Jalapeno
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Tone Geneator Theory of Operation.


LOL, Doug!
----- Original Message -----
From: dug5037
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 9:17 AM
Subject: [hammond_zone] Re: Tone Geneator Theory of Operation.


--- In hammond_zone@y..., "Raul de Jalapeno" <raul_de_jalapeno@h...>
wrote:
> Doug:
> A special tool is required to remove the dingle arm. This is
because it's buried under the lower udatulator plate. This tool,
which was Hammon part # B2-02T564, consisted of a stratifed pentagrid
plate modulator that would maintain the algebraic relationship of the
generator coil flux to the magnetic field set up by the nofer
trunnions. With this relationship maintained, the dingle arm can be
withdrawn through the fennel orifice with out fear of excessive skor
motion.

Good News--I found the dingle arm under the plate just as you said
and I bent it slightly while playing a C AUG chord on the upper
manual with all the drawbars out--I could hear the growl increase as
I bent it--I stopped at exactly 15 degrees 30 minutes as measured
with a laser refractor doo-hickey otoscope. This is the optimum
setting for just enough growl and mininum distortion. Be aware that
bending to far will raise the emitter levels of the two torsional
bias transistors to a dangerous level and could result in a complete
meltdown. As with any modification--"your results will vary"

Doug
T582 with a bent dingle that now sounds like a B3
Ain't this fun?
BTW I got a piezo tweeter with dual drivers in one rectangle horn
housing that I am going to wire into my Homemade Leslie to bring out
the key click and sharpen up the percussion--I will not stop until my
ears start to bleed!


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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlo Pietroniro
To: Hammond Zone
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 9:19 PM
Subject: [hammond_zone] drawbar settings


I have a dictionary of Hammond organ stops, which includes settings for all the traditional organ stops. If anyone's interested, I can post some of them.

carlo





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----- Original Message -----
From: dug5037
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 9:17 AM
Subject: [hammond_zone] Re: Tone Geneator Theory of Operation.


--- In hammond_zone@y..., "Raul de Jalapeno" <raul_de_jalapeno@h...>
wrote:
> Doug:
> A special tool is required to remove the dingle arm. This is
because it's buried under the lower udatulator plate. This tool,
which was Hammon part # B2-02T564, consisted of a stratifed pentagrid
plate modulator that would maintain the algebraic relationship of the
generator coil flux to the magnetic field set up by the nofer
trunnions. With this relationship maintained, the dingle arm can be
withdrawn through the fennel orifice with out fear of excessive skor
motion.

Good News--I found the dingle arm under the plate just as you said
and I bent it slightly while playing a C AUG chord on the upper
manual with all the drawbars out--I could hear the growl increase as
I bent it--I stopped at exactly 15 degrees 30 minutes as measured
with a laser refractor doo-hickey otoscope. This is the optimum
setting for just enough growl and mininum distortion. Be aware that
bending to far will raise the emitter levels of the two torsional
bias transistors to a dangerous level and could result in a complete
meltdown. As with any modification--"your results will vary"

Doug
T582 with a bent dingle that now sounds like a B3
Ain't this fun?
BTW I got a piezo tweeter with dual drivers in one rectangle horn
housing that I am going to wire into my Homemade Leslie to bring out
the key click and sharpen up the percussion--I will not stop until my
ears start to bleed!


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----- Original Message -----
From: gdhiatt@...
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] new member


In a message dated 2/28/02 10:26:02 PM Central Standard Time,
organist@... writes:


> I'd love to get into a discussion about Allen organs (and others), but this
> is a Hammond list, so I'll bite my tongue...............


Go ahead I'm interested. George





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----- Original Message -----
From: ronbell145
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:32 PM
Subject: [hammond_zone] Re: I'll Try again sry bad link


It is manditory reading for everyone, and there will be a test to
follow;)

Ron.



"Raul de Jalapeno" wrote:
> Ron...what is that....it's....it's....just WHAT is it??
>
> Raul



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----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Williams
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:47 AM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] drawbar settings


In a recent post that which is below is stated.

>"there are many organists whose churches have Hammond organs, and while the
>Hammond 'sound' is great, it's not exactly what a church organ should sound
>like,..." >


WAIT A SECOND. Who said that is not what a church should sound like??? THe
Hammond organ is the only church organ to have. I take it you have never
been to a pentecostal church. I think you would know would I mean if you
saw it. The Leslie on 10, amd the B3 Blastin' like you would not believe.

some of my favorite settings with the right hand are

800000008

I usually start with this and then add this:

808000008

Just kinda brightens it up but it is still under the banner of mellow. This
is good with the leslie on fast.

THis sound has a good sound that is slighty nasal. very cool

688645457

TO get real bright I go with the

808808008, 848808008, and of course the 888888888 although this tends to
rock the house so hard that the chandeliers come down.

you can "nasal-up" your sound by pulling out the second drawbar further than
the first. the greate the ditance between them the more nasal the sound.

all of these I have the vibrato on C-3. THe only time I turn the vibrato
off is for padding. I do it sometimes to mix things up. need a change
every once and a while.

AS FOR THE LEFT HAND

I used to always go with 888800000 for a deep bass sound. I have now
discovered a more raunchy bass sound that has two uses.

First, of course when played at the lower octaves has an extremely "rockin"
bass

Secondly, When played at the very high octaves it will make your B3 SCREAM
like you would NOT BELIEVE. Also it is good for some glissandos. It can't
be used for really anything else because it sounds like a dying duck if you
try to lead with it.

Here it is baby:

088800000

Tell me what you think. THis has been a trick that us pentecostals have
used for a long time. Maybe it is only suitable for loud chuch but it
works.

I have other settings too but I think this is good enough


tell me what you think,



Brian


nice mellow tone to pl




>I'll post some drawbar settings for church organists soon........
>
>carlo
>
>
>
>




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