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Re: Commander HF 2500 meter bulbs
On all the HF2500 amps I buy or repair for customers I install strip LEDs above the meters. ?I don¡¯t want to mess again taking the amp apart for meter bulbs. ?The originals are fuse type bulbs. ?Obviously someone changed the originals for these. ?I suggest the LED strip above the meters. ?The amp 12v??is rated 1 amp. ?There¡¯s nowhere near one amp drawn some 100ma of LED strip is no problem.
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On Friday, April 11, 2025, 7:33 AM, KG2RG via groups.io <justinandyazny@...> wrote:
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Commander HF-2500 meter lamps and HV PS
Justin,
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I have a couple of HF-2500 amplifiers I've used for many years and experienced the same failure of the meter lamps. The earlier HF-2500 (single meter) has two bulbs and the later (two meter) has four. I put up with no lamps for sometime and then just gave in to fixing the problem when another issue cropped up. I noticed that the plate voltage indicated on the front panel meter of the HF-2500 (dual meter) seemed quite low, and did not match the voltage read with a HV probe on the anodes of the PA tubes by over 500VDC. I decided to fix it, and replace the three meter lamps that were not lit. At the time I did not realize what a tall-order fixing the HV meter would be. Lamps first, I replaced the four incandescent lamps with 3800K Bright-Warm-White LEDs from a pinball supply company. These are in a #47 lamp form factor and are commonly used to replace lamps in boatanchor gear with 6.3VAC on the lamp. The current draw was something like 25mA each and I wired each meter pair in series. I also strapped a .001uf disc across each lamp to keep any RF out of the LED. There is also a published mod to the metering board where you replace the 7812 three terminal 12VDC 1A regulator with a 78S12 2A regulator. It solves the marginal current supply issue. The real pain was fixing the HV meter. As you may already know, the HV PS board is located under the RF deck. Nearly every part in the tank circuit must be removed to access the HV power supply board, as well as the front panel and more. It requires all this removal of "stuff" to take out a plate under the RF deck components that the HV board is mounted on. When I finally got the HV board out I found that the series resistors for the meter had gone way up in value. This probably was due to the dissipation in the three marginal wattage resistors, and the heat from all the bleeder resistors in the confined space. The air flow from the fan has about half of the air going to the right-hand tube closest to the fan, and the second half of the air passes through the HV compartment before it get to the left tube. So the left tube runs at a higher temperature. Go figure. While I was in the HV compartment I replaced all the filter capacitors with 105C types and replaced all the bleeder resistors and metering resistors with higher dissipation parts. I left the diodes as-is. Once reassembled, it worked great and the HV meter read correctly. After all this work I saw an ad from Palstar who apparently bought the Commander line and did a lot of upgrades on the already great amplifier. One significant change they made was to install a "door-plate" on the bottom of the RF deck to make easy access to the PS circuit board. If I ever have to do this again, I will cut a door in the bottom, hi! 73 Bill N4LG At 03:24 AM 4/11/2025, KG2RG via groups.io wrote:
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Commander HF 2500 meter bulbs
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I have a Commander HF 2500. Have not had it to long. When I got it, only 1 of the 4 meter bulbs was working. After about 3 month, the bulb went dark.?
I believe there is a 12V 1A regulator that supplies the meter bulbs and the relay. I read the pulls are Festoon type and need to be no more the 0.08A each so to not exceed max current and cause the relay to no key. I finally got in there and they are not the fuse looking type bulbs. They are little bulbs with with short leads soldered to the meter board.?
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i finally got in there because I had another Issue with the standby switch. I think the standby switch was intermittent and a relay was not keying sometimes. I started noticing the problem when I would first turn on the amplifier after the short warm-up., I placed the standby switch into operate and the amp would not key. At first, I thought this issue may have been the regulator or something else, but I started to notice the symptoms would often happen after using the standby switch. I originally planned to bypass the switch and see if the problem went away and then I could replace the standby rocker switch. But when I got in there, I noticed there was another set of poles that were vacant and likely never used so I decided to utilize it those and see how things went. I cleaned all of the contacts and the plugs on the wire wires with deoxIt, And then plugged the wires onto the never used terminals on the other pole. So far it¡¯s been great for the past 24 hours. I¡¯ll give it some time, but if the problem comes back, then I¡¯ll try bypassing it and if the problem still persist during bypass, I¡¯ll look to see other possible causes but so far things are good and my fingers are crossed.?
after messing around with the standby switch, I pulled the metering board out and surprise, it was not the fuse type bulbs. These bulbs had short leads soldered to the meter board.
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does anyone have a recommended replacement bulb suggestion? They likely need to be 12VDC at 0.08A. I should¡¯ve used my caliber to measure the size so I¡¯m not sure what size and what type of bulb or where I can source replacements. Any help would Be very appreciated!?
kG2RG
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