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This group is for all folks running the original IBM VM/370 Release 6 operating system (or later (e.g. VMTCE (Community Edition)) on Hercules. Like the other early IBM operating systems this version has always been in the public domain and so can be freely distributed. The base version as supplied by IBM is lacking in many facilities. IBM solved this by providing additional extension products which were licensed and so are not available. There are however many user enhancements available which can be installed. In addition, in order to get users up and running quickly updated "releases" of VM/370 included the most popular updates are available for download, so novices can start to learn VM without having to delve into the system internals. It is intended that this wiki will provide information on the base release and these updates.
The available versions are here :-
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开云体育Hi Jean-Pierre, I had downloaded all files previously identified and removed all duplicates. Now I have compared those with your list. There are a few errors in the list. File ich1a421.pdf has a duplicate, it's listed twice. Files a7604060.pdf asmtic21.pdf bpxza5b0.pdf e0z2n110.pdf
f1ah2031.pdf iea3r100.pdf ifc5g101.pdf are missing, though it
looks like a few are actually duplicates, at least according to
the title. a7604060.pdf GA76-0406-00 z/VM V5R2.0 Summary for Automated
Installation and Service (DVD Installation) The Hot Topics do have a document number, please find the list here: e0z1nl00.pdf??? GA22-7431-00 Hot Topics Issue 1 August 1999 Looking for the Document number for "IBM BookManager BookServer for WWW" I couldn't find the number. But I did get a hit for this title in a zOS V1R10 Planning manual at . So looks like we might also want to list publibfp as well, it's similar to publibz. Regards, Berry. Op 02-04-2025 om 14:18 schreef Group
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开云体育Hi Stefan,? Thanks for the hints. I used Rexx a lot (since VM/SP3 on a 4341 to the abandon of OS/2) [Then I switched to Java in order to avoid Windows even if my shop was using it) and since my retirement, I have played with lua (quite nice) so my rexx skills are quite rusted. My discovery of Hercules and the ability (mailny due to René
Ferland so kind help) of having a vm-esa working machine will
certainly help me in re-mastering language. Thanks again. have a nice day Jean-Pierre Le 03/04/2025 à 14:52, Stefan A.
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Hi Jean-Pierre,
Just two hints:
#!/usr/bin/env rexx
makes your script more portable
Do l = 1 while lines(csvFile) > 0
is a short form of your condition
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开云体育Alas, it was far from perfect. I've enhanced the results (finding
out all the titles I could and doing my best for finding was
hidden before 8 letters ones and then sort on the documents
numbers and remove the duplicate entry. And as I'm not fully
satisfied with the results, I thought that each of us would find a
need for some improvement.? Formerly, I used the lua language (easy to handle bunches of line and providing a good json interface) I thought that it would be more suitable to use a language we all share : REXX.? My lua program generated a csv file (easily modifed, handled with libreoddice-calc like programs [who said Excel ?]? or a plain text editor where the url, the document number and the title on every document are on one line separated by a tab (x09) character. The csv2html file is just a way to transform the contents of the csv file into a table displayed by any web browser. It is not a state of the art program just a tool cvs2html ibmdocs.csv cat.html will produce a cat.html file identical to the catalog.html which is in the zip file. Warning The output file is not erased by the program. you may end up with a double size catalog, the new version of it being at the end of the file. (it is also a way to have a table with the MVS entries, then one with VM, JES, JES2, JES3 ... Just keep the imbdocs.csv file in a safe place and do whatever you wish . Enjoy ! Tanks again for the deep knowledge you make available for everybody Jean-Pierre Cabanié ? Le 30/03/2025 à 05:21, Fish Fish via
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PERFECT! THANK YOU, René! -- Jπr |
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REXX SURVEY
开云体育Dear h390-vm ?followers, ? Till Winkler is currently conducting a survey on the usage of REXX. ? If you are using REXX, please participate and forward this link:
? The results will be presented on the REXX symposium in Vienna in May. ? Thank you & best regards ? Mike ? |
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开云体育I'm really sorry, but a typo in the program missing.lua made some
entries undetected and hence the html output René Ferland uploaded
for me a few days ago was not 100% correct.? I'm currently working
on a new set of tools that will (I hope) not only be bug-free but
produce a better looking html output (a table instead of a list).
Please accept my most sincere apologies for this poor contribution. Jean-Pierre Cabanié (a bit ashamed) Le 30/03/2025 à 21:57, Andre via
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On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 10:35 PM, René Ferland wrote:
Wow!! This is so cool! I will definitely try it out!
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On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 12:30 PM, Andre wrote:
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Waterloo SCRIPT is available on VM/370 CE, type "help script". The manual is in SCRIPT LISTING U.
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Cheers,
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Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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P.S. -- I remember using SCRIPT on MUSIC/SP for course material when I taught Fortran and SAS back in 1982.
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Thank you, Ross! Very interesting info.
Is there SCRIPT/VS foreground processor for MVS 3.8 or VM/370 by any chance?
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On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 2:39?PM Andre via <procritic=[email protected]> wrote:
IBM did indeed have its own software for this task.? And it made it available to their customers, for a fee, of course.? The core was the IBM "SCRIPT" product,?sold under several names,?but most-lately "Document Composition Facility" (DCF).??
SCRIPT was inspired by the ur-formatter, RUNOFF[1], which ran on MIT's Compatible Time Sharing System (CTSS), and goes back to the late 1960s.? Soon afterward, some IBM'ers built a set of SCRIPT macros and a pre-processor to support writing documents in Generalized Markup Language[2].? IBM released that work as the "GML Starter Set" for SCRIPT/VS.? Internally, it continued to develop the markup language and came up with what was eventually?released to customers as "BookMaster", a fully-fledged book composition and formatting system.? The ".BOO" files that we've been discussing were produced as one form of BookManager output (it could also do text-only, fully-typeset, etc.).? IBM also released a set of programs that read those files, called "BookManager", and even a free version called "IBM Library Reader" for OS/2 and Windows, that could read documents specially "stamped" for it. In the 1990s, as HTML[3] took off, Gary Richtmeyer, of IBM and later AT&T, wrote "B2H", a BookMaster-to-HTML converter that did a great job of putting BookMaster books on the web (from the source form, not the .BOO files).? That code was released freely and runs today just fine on VM/SP and later (I haven't tried it on VM/370 yet), OS/2, Windows, Linux (and other unices), and MVS (and presumably z/OS). Ross [1] RUNOFF was also the inspiration for roff,?the original Unix formatter. [2] GML was the inspiration for XML. [3] GML was also the inspiration for HTML. |
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I have a strange question, but maybe someone here knows the answer.
What program IBM used in 1970s and 1980s to prepare, format and typeset those docs??
I know that UNIX crowd usually used something like TROFF or NROFF, then TeX.
But I doubt that IBM didn't have their own software for this task.
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Andre |
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By: René Ferland <ferland.rene@...>PERFECT! THANK YOU, René! -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Software Development Laboratories mail: fish@... |
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Re: IBM Documentation Hidden At IBM
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 07:41 AM, Ken Dreger wrote:
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The code is a .NET 8 console app written in C# and developed with Visual Studio 2022 under Windows. It makes use of the PdfPig NuGet package to parse the PDFs.
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The input file with the list of URLs is included with the project. The longest time taken by the app is fetching each PDF off the internet. On my i5-8400 dev box, it takes about 40 minutes to run all the files.
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Take what's useful "as-is".
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Hi Ken,
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thank you. I wrote a little JavaScript program for the transformation. You need NodeJs to run it.
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Here is the source code (it includes Jon's JSON data):
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You run it (e.g. on the Windows command line) with: node generate_docu.js >ibm_documentation.html
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As I wrote, it is quick and dirty and no example of elegant JavaScript coding. It generates the ouptput just with console.log statements.
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Maybe it even runs on a modern IBM mainframe :-). As far as I know, NodeJS is available for z/OS.
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Feel free to adapt it to your needs.
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Best regards
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Norbert |
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On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 10:48 PM, Fish Fish wrote:
Not to look a gift horse in the mouth (because I very much do appreciate your effort, Jon!), but I was kind of looking for something like simple HTML ?
You're welcome.
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My thinking: JSON is so ubiquitous nowadays, you can shape it into anything you want. Or even have Chat-GPT do it for you.?
I was in a hurry, and in C#, I could serialize JSON with one or two statements.
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Hello guys!
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Please find attached excel database. I made it from JSON for myself, but decided to share. Hope it helps.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14gY-ZKwfgf_srx0lY0aRQQZ-Wf1ltV2d/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=111879433608677265990&rtpof=true&sd=true
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Best wishes,
Andre |