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Initial mail
Hello fellow Cliftonaires, Just a mail to thank Lawrie (G4FAA) for suggesting a new venue for our group and further thanks to Steve (M0BPQ) for setting up the new group scheme. Also to allow the initial moderation of my account. Well done team! Stay safe and catch you on the wireless! 73 de Tony
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Initial mail- update
Thanks Tony - it works! Suggestion- following on from the success of the two recent Clifton Xmas nets can we have another members birthday to celebrate as an excuse for another clifton CC net whilst Lockdown 3 is extant ? ( hint-Tony HUZ seems to have the widest 80m coverage!). And does anyone know the origins of the call G3GHN ( or G8GHN)? 73's all es HNY lawrie faa( 6th Jan)
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G3ghn call sign origin—
?thanks for the info Martin ( i guess you meant 1947 - the worst winter I remember since WW2!) . I understand The call sign ,as a club call , is FOC from Ofcom and is currently held by Steve G4RFC. However G8GHN is shown on qrz. com as held by Jack Veaney ( G6bkh? ) and now sadly SK of course. Thus Should one of the Clifton ARS final committee members take it over from Jack in order to keep it alive for another decade? Any thoughts Martin— 73 all lawrie g4faa ( 7th Jan)
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Origins 3
As far as I was led to believe GHN was the next available callsign when we applied for the call back in 1900 and frozen to death. There were no vanity callsigns and you could only reserve a call if its issuing was imminent (CAR was long gone). G8GHN was applied for when most of the new members got Amateur Sound licence B calls but of course these weren’t proper licences since you hadn’t done the one year CW only stint and been inspected by the Post Office Inspector (Mr Smith in S E London). Regards Martin G0DCG ex-G8AQD Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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G8GHN 2
The call died with Jack G7BKH: No attempt was made to keep it going since we found when you entered both calls into a contest you kept getting “we have already worked you before” even though you haven’t! I think Ofcom would regard it as gone... Regards Martin G0DCG Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Amplifier wanted 2
Hi Folks, Im gathering parts for a 70MHz Solid state amplifier based on an MRF151G. I don't have a big heatsink or box then I realised that someone may have a broken amp that I could re-purpose. Does anyone have a bust amp they would be willing to sell me? Something like an old Microwave modules 100W or "300W" CB amp would fab. More in hope than anticipation.... Cheers Steve M0BPQ
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G8GHN and all that-- 3
Hi folks I guess the idea of resurrecting the call g8ghn for vhf , from correspondence on this forum, is a non starter-- since it always apparently led to confusion with g3ghn for HF. And also confusion with current similar sounding call signa. So guess it remains on the books as a Clifton club callsign in honour and memory of Jack G7BKH? And for interest have been in touch with the International short wave league ( have heard their special call on the air [mostly 80m] on occasion). Have asked them about any Clifton connections found in in their archives (significant dates or call signs etc.) but so far without result-----. Next Clifton CC net? Anyone got a special birthday perhaps or the first sunday pm after lockdown 3 !!!! 73 all lawrie G4FAA ( who has been jabbed twice-Yippee!)
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19yrs of Clifton CC Net
Whatho Cliftonaires, Firstly, here’s hoping you are all keeping well and Covid free! The first Clifton Country Club Net was held on 21st January 2002 to mark this event there will be a Clifton CC Net this Sunday 21st February at 14.30hrs on 3.690Mhz. Hopefully you can join in and tell us how you are dealing with the present situation, as well as the extreme weather. Also, if you have taken advantage of the improving conditions on the bands? The sales of hobby equipment, including ham radio kit are booming. Have you acquired a new piece of kit recently why not tell us about it? Catch you on the wireless this Sunday. 73 es 88s de Tony es Suzanne.
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Some Clifton History 4
Hello Gang! Please find below a few lines I received from John Lambert (G3FNZ) regarding some historical background on the Clifton. As you may be aware John was one of the founding members of the club and went on to have a fascinating career in the Royal Navy and then was involved with the development of both aeronautical and maritime long range HF communications. I speak to John on the telephone quite regularly and he always has some interesting anecdote to impart regarding either the club or his pathway through the many avenues of radio communication. He tells me he is on the cusp of sending his ‘initial mail’ to this group then we will all be able enjoy his recollections of past times Here is a copy of his latest anecdote:. Hi All just a little bit of info re the ISWL and the Clifton ARS. Just after the war the Short wave magazine started the ISWL in competition to the British short wave league , they then invited members to form clubs or “chapters” four local listeners met and talked this over, this was Bill Martin, Norman Moore , John Theobald and one other. They decided to form chapter and called meeting of anybody interested at the Clifton rise school. This was attended by about eight local SWLs including myself. And it was decided to call it CLIFTON ARS. .We took part in top band cw competitions organised by the SW Mag , once we had members with a licence and came third and second on several occasions. Hope that is of interest. JOHN LAMBERT G3FNZ I am also looking for an excuse or other reason to hold another Clifton Net on 80m…………Birthday, Anniversary or an event that may have directly influenced “The Clifton”. Looking back into my Clifton Country Club file I find that the first CC Net was held on 21st January 2002. We could mark this anniversary by holding a Clifton Net on Sunday 21st Feb OK it’s a month late but who’s counting? As conditions for inter-G on 80m are still reasonable around 2.30pm. Can suggest that as a start time on 3.690Mhz? So how about it gang do you think it is good idea? Let me know what you think. 73 de Tony
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Clifton
HI Chaps just a few more details of the Clubs early days. We only met a few times at the Clifton rise school as Norman Moore got wind of society in New Cross that rented a down stairs property for meetings and were prepared to sub-let to us for our Friday evenings. The property was at 225 New Cross road and we could use the two ground floor rooms plus the minute kitchen. From which Norman would dispense coffee or tea to the members’. Once we had members with a licence we had to have a club station, this would require a receiver but we had no funds, this was overcome by selling scrap copper obtained by burning old transformers to remove cores and insulation. Once we had some cash we were able to purchase an ex Navy B28receiver this was a Marconi CR100 in civil life. Trust you are all keeping well 73 John G3FNZ
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FW: Clifton
From: John Lambert Sent: 20 February 2021 16:12 To: g3ghn@... Subject: Clifton Hi chaps - a bit more history. After a few Years we were able to take over tenancy the premises as the original tenants were trade union at the New Cross bus/tram depot which had shut down. We had the use oft basement as well so had space for a workshop With a work bench, tools and test equipment . Friday evenings included talks , morse code practice and general nattering. Early on some members took the City and Guilds exam for their ham license, the first member to obtain one being John Theobald G3EQM. Other activities included Direction finding which always took place on a Sunday at Green street green.. Bill M martin and Norman Moore would depart to find a hide hole and everybody would try to find their very low power Tx. At 4pm all would gather back at the start for tea etc at the café- very popular with cyclists.the club affiliated with the RSGB and took part in national field days – the first being at Mansfield park Catford.. 73 KEEP WELL John G3FNZ
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CCC on sunday
Sorry folks - fam problem so did not join until late by which time you had all gone . Pity 80m seemed good that pm. Hopefully ok for next time - say first sunday pm after release from lockdown 3 Tony? 73 Lawrie g4faa ( mon am)
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Atrocious Condx on Sunday's Net 2
Hello Gang, Yesterday’s atrocious conditions on 80m apparently prevented all but the well located and well equipped stations from being heard. Peter (G3PJB) tenaciously called against a deluge of noise and shuddering QSB. At best he was 2&3 here in Norfolk, it took several attempts to resolve his call-sign. Even Peter (G3RQZ) was not his normal ‘needle bending’ self. His signals hovered around 57 and only once or twice reached +20db for fleeting moments courtesy of his TL922 linear. Both Peter (G3RQZ) and I struggled to resolve Peter’s (G3PJB) transmissions without much success. After a brief discussion of our experiences of obtaining our Covid vaccinations and leaving several extended gaps for other others to join, Peter and I decided it was pointless to continue. We therefore closed the net at 3pm. Following the net I received an apology from Lawrie G4FAA via the G3GHN reflector. Lawrie went on to suggest we have the next CC Net to mark being released from the third ‘lockdown’. May I suggest we wait and see what Boris has to announce at this evening’s press conference. Thanks to all those who tried to join the net but were defeated by the conditions. To think that only a few days ago 80m was in such good shape my 5w QRP signals were gaining 599 reports. Strange business this wireless, 73 es 88s de Tony es Suzanne.
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Teleprinter
Hi everyone, I know several of you collect vintage kit, but does anyone have a working teleprinter? You may be aware that I do most of my radio now with the local Scouts at Gilwell Park and we are designing a "code breaking" Scout activity to be delivered in a Bletchley Park style hut. A rattling teleprinter pulling some rtty signals off the air might add something to the feel of the activity and I wondered if there is one we could borrow, or if it is delicate then the owner would be welcome to join us to look after his pride and joy. I appreciate that this isnt what really happened in WWII, but a 15 year old wont know the difference! 73 Steve, M0BPQ PS - might be immaterial if not scout events run this summer!
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CLIFTON
Hi Chaps a few more comments re the early days of the club For theD/F outings some members built their own receivers but others used the receiver part of the ex gov type 68 set. The RSGB field day at Mansfield park was big learning curve as our r kit was mains powered r so we had to use car battery plus a rotary converter and an ex gov petrol generator. This latter was not strong enough so had to shut down every hour to /recharge - One year to celebrate a club anniversary (possible 15 yrs) we had a semi formal dinner for members and partners at Catford cricket club . As my father was president of the cricket club I was able have the use of the club rooms for free so kept the cost to reasonable level. That’s enough waffle from me 73 John G3FNZ
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Historical insight 2
Whatho Gang, Just to say how much I appreciate the historical insight given by John (G3FNZ) into the background, activities and personalities involved in the ‘early days’ of the Clifton. Keep it coming John it is all fascinating stuff. More so as I am one of those who joined fairly late in day (circa 1981), when club meetings were held in the upstairs room of the New Cross Inn, at the junction of Clifton Rise and New Cross Road. 73 es stay safe Tony es Suzanne.
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Cllfton Field Day Tent 5
Hi everyone Lawrie, myself and others enjoyed a blast from the past last night (Thurs 18 March). Cray Valley had a Zoom lecture given by Nick Bradley G4IWO from the Denby Dale club . Nick turned out to be a former Clifton member. One of Nick's slides featured the old white field day which became known as the 'Agincourt Special' due to its timeless medieval design. It was a square shaped bell tent with a central and very substantial wooden pole which sorted a magnificent finial ball on the top which presumably stopped the rain from going down inside. Nick reminisced over those outings with Jakey at the helm and remembered that we used a farm on the North Downs but could not recall the name. Yours truly came to his rescue with, of course, 'White Hill Farm' above Shoreham Village. I did not overlap membership with Nick despite doing quite a few HF NFDs up there. My memories were mainly of Jakey, Peter G3RQZ, Dave G3JJZ and Cyril G3DIC as the principal operators with myself and Alan Broadstock G3XTO (who joined the club as Bill Martin's protegee and took the morse test with me) as apprentice operators/loggers. The many G8s at the time (APV, AQD, CCL, DDW, DIU) plus Norman Moore, Dave Reed and Mr Fletcher (Steve's Dad) formed the logistics department. Apologies to any I may have forgotten to include. Frank G3WMR
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Short wave listening, a good start. 2
Hello Fellow Cliftonaires, Following a recent chat on the ‘twisted pair’ with John Lambert (G3FNZ) about our respective paths into the hobby. John told me how as a 15yr old he had been given a copy of ‘Practical Wireless’ by a friend. This led John to building the three valve battery operated receiver that had featured in the ‘PW………….The rest as they would say now is history. I hope you enjoy reading John’s article together with the letter/QSL (jpeg attached) as much as I did. A Message from RMS Queen Mary By John Lambert In 1945 I returned to South East London as a 15 year old school boy, having been away for 5 years as an evacuee. I became very interested in the workings of radio sets, and one day a friend gave me a copy of a magazine called “Practical Wireless” and in this was the design of a 3 valve battery operated shortwave receiver. I decided that I would like to build this, and checked on my pocket money but after several donation request visits to my grandparents, had enough money to purchase all the components necessary. I built the receiver, and to my delight and surprise it worked, and I spent many happy hours listening to broadcasts from around the world. At that time the majority of the transmissions were either national or commercial broadcast stations, as very few countries had started to re-issue amateur licences. It was with great surprise, therefore, that on one occasion I heard two men talking to each other, and this intrigued me and it was some time before I understood what was going on. The answer was that it was an interview being made for the BBC programme “Monday Night at Eight”, wherein the programme comprised a number of small snippets of information deemed to be of interest to the general public. One of the items that was broadcast each week was an interview with a famous person whose birthday coincided with the specific broadcast. After listening to the transmission for some time I realised that this was an interview being made for this programme, and the person of interest was Sir Thomas Beecham. The only trouble was that Sir Thomas had been to America and was on his way home, and was on board the RMS Queen Mary in mid-Atlantic. The transmission was spoiled because Sir Thomas would insist on shouting into the microphone, which caused considerable distortion. Also that somebody on board the ship kept removing their headphones, which resulted in all sorts of squeals and other weird noises. This particular interview was being made via shortwave radio, and had to be carefully controlled to avoid interference and signal fading, to both of which this method of long-distance transmission is very prone. I was so intrigued by the whole thing, that I had the temerity to write to Cunard’s for the attention of the Chief Radio Officer of the Queen Mary, and a few weeks later was delighted to receive a reply confirming my comments about the transmission, and was “over the moon” to receive a picture of the Queen Mary’s radio room. Similar to John, albeit a few decades later I too was an avid SWL. Again starting with a regenerative two valve battery operated receiver. Then acquiring an Eddystone 670 receiver on a ‘long term loan’ from the late Ken Willis (G8VR) who was a neighbour of mine at the time. Being an SWL was a rite of passage and the accepted pathway into amateur radio. Unfortunately this aspect of the hobby seems to have lost ground as manually tuning a receiver among the general population is a ‘forgotten skill’ in these days of ‘Alexa’ and digital streaming. For those of us who still have the curiosity, temerity and perseverance, the HF bands outside our frequency allocations are still fertile areas For example, a very strong AM signal on 3.973 MHz proclaiming to be ‘Amateur Radio on line news’. This featured a very professional presentation of news items from the ARRL, RSGB, Australian Radio Society as well as JARL etc. I have a suspicion the signals originated in central Europe (Germany?). A clandestine “numbers station” was found on 4.212Mhz. Albeit, using USB with five letter groups in phon
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test to new g3ghn groups.io 6
Hi folks test post to g3ghn which replaces the old g3ghn yahoo group. Hopefully ot will provide a platform for group members tp broadcast info of general interest in particular about Clifton nets and news of Clitonites! best 73,s all and HNY - roll on the vaccine! lawrie G4FAA( jan 5th. 07899855166)
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Pre release CC net
Whatho Fellow Cliftonaires, Firstly, I trust this e-mail finds you all safe and well and looking forward to a super summer with improving conditions both on the wireless and weather front. Lawrie (G4FAA) e-mailed suggesting we hold a ‘pre-release net’ or ‘pre-Demob net’ on Sunday 18th July…………. An excellent optimistic reason as ever from Lawrie! As a result The next Clifton Country Club net will be on Sunday 18th July at 1400Hrs GMT (3pm BST) on or near 3.690Mhz +/- Why not fire up the transceiver and join the gang on 80m to see how your Clifton pals have been faring and what they are planning to do after ‘release day’ on 19th July. Needless to say, the return to full relaxation of restrictions still depends on the status of the virus ‘D’ variant. So fingers crossed! Catch you on the wireless! 73 es stay safe de Tony es Suzanne. PS. A very warm welcome to Clive GW0PPO on joining the group
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